Loved your response to the vaccine question - just so calm, non inflammatory and polite. Overall I'm impressed at how much you think about and educate yourself on issues (judging from watching a few videos now). Everything you say is quite well supported and critically reasoned but you present in such a joyful and calm way - thanks for giving us some insight into the Bruderhof. God Bless!
@Chuck B except that if a lot of people do this, some diseases will reappear .. so you and your family are in fact protected by the people who do have their children vaccinated .. even if you are within your parental rights ( I don't know the laws in your country, I'm French and in France some vaccines are compulsory )
@@francoise4678 As a nurse who has worked with vulnerable communities (children with serious medical conditions), I'm aware that some children can not be vaccinated due to their weakened conditions. When someone with a healthy kid refuses, stating it is their right as a parent, what they should be stating is that they are willing to ride on the coat tails of herd immunity, including vaccinated kids. That's the problem with civil disagreement: people can throw out the "it's my right" card as if it defends their antisocial position. Those antivax kids can spread the disease that is currently asymptomatic. They might get sick and need a few weeks to recover, but it is deadly to my students (cystic fibrosis, cerebral palsy and cancer) . So, yeah, I have an attitude about it and I support mandatory vaccinations for children entering public classrooms. Period. End of debate.
She's just so purely beautiful. I feel clean just watching her. I love the thought of this way of life but I'm not religious but it must be so stress free with no bills no worrying about rent or where your nxt meals coming frm.
Thanks for all your answers. My wife and I literally just watched the BBC documentary and were wondering about the medical side of things with her being a paediatrics doctor and both of us growing in fairly traditional baptist households, her in the UK and me in Romania.
Do you receive any kind of an allowance for any small things not provided from the community? What happens if someone makes a special gift for someone? Is it automatically community property that you might have to give up at any time? Do you consider yourselves spiritual cousins to the Mennonites, Amish, and Hutterites? Can a Bruderhof member marry someone who is not a member? Is the Bruderhof like many Amish or Hutterites or even some Mennonites in the fact that they rarely if ever go to school past grade 8?
I do not know but I was not thinking of a clothing item that a person might grow out of. I just think it would be unfair to the receiver to expect them to give away a special gift and might make the giver feel bad if they found out that a special gift they gave to someone was valued so little that it was given away without a thought.
Thank you so much for answering my question and questions of a couple of other people! I really enjoy hearing these things! And you are right, by the time somebody has this calling on their life, they could care less about their stuff and shiny gadgets… The Most High God calls us to something bigger and that’s all we need- HIM ❤️
I suppose my question in regards to vaccines was more of autonomy. Whether or not each parent has that complete autonomy over their children or if it’s “required“ to vaccinate once you live inside the community. I totally understand people who still vaccinate. But because my son was vaccine damaged, I won’t be vaccinating him anymore. I definitely don’t judge others who have had a good experience with vaccines!
I believe in sharing things, too. But I'm not a member, nor will I be. So I use eBay, Charity Shops and some of those Give Boxes or book boxes nearby. ... It's actually fun to see what the book box will come up with. Once, it gave me the autobiography of Conrad Hilton, "Be my guest", which I found very interesting.
I think their lifestyle is like living in a convent, except for the fact you can get married, lol. However, I don't think she answers the questions very thoroughly. I watched the answers twice, and I still didn't think the answers were thorough enough.
Sometimes when we already know the answer, it can be a bit difficult to discern what details someone else would need in order to understand the whole picture. I don’t answer fully when asked certain questions, and most of us don’t, so I understand why she won’t fully explain!
Great video as always, thanks so much for these. I believe you mentioned in the past that you spent several years living in a Bruderhof community in England. As a Brit myself, I'd be fascinated in hearing more about your experience living here, any differences you noticed in how British people behave compared to Americans or any differences in how Bruderhof communities operate between our countries. Let me guess, you weren't a big fan of our weather? It gets a bit old having permanently grey skies. You asked that other British guy how he found out about your channel; for me I think it was because of the publicity here surrounding a BBC documentary that was supposed to air about the Bruderhof in the UK. Sadly it didn't air in the end for some reason, which really bummed me out because I was super hyped for it and I was constantly checking when it would air for months. I've given up on it airing at this point. Say, you wouldn't happen to have super secret special access to it that you could share, right? Worth a shot!
I actually came here from that video. It was uploaded one week ago. The channel is "Fiona Bruce" Title: BBC: We Visited a Broderhof Commune, This is What We Saw.
I'll be honest, my concern with your community (and others who are very similar) is the vaccination point. Now, I don't assume you don't, as it would not be fair to you. But when I read the tittle, my heart skipped a bit because "what if..." It's important to mention that I am undergoing chemo and have been for a years, so this is the reason people being vaccinated is so important to me. I'm more likely to get sick and have complications (so Covid has been really stressful so far). Also, I just started watching a couple of your video and I really enjoy your joyful attitude and how you look so comfortable in front of the camera (if it's only an illusion, well done! because it really seems like this is really easy for you!) wishing you all the best!
I’m so happy you guys vaccinate your kids! I’m glad to see that you look at it from such a rational perspective and actually look at the research. I’ve seen a lot of religious people especially who don’t look at the research and who then also don’t vaccinate.
Hi Laura, love your spirit. I would kindly suggest you do more research into the politics of vaccinations. There is alot of political influence on research grants and research papers to do with this. The heavy metals from vaccines lodge anywhere in the body (including the brain) and don't easily get removed, and could simply just stay there. Also human DNA in vaccines (whether from contamination or otherwise) has an extremely high chance of causing autoimmune disease due to your immune systems response to it.
It is entirely unchristian to take these particular vaccines, unfortunately most Christians spend little time understanding the world we now live in and are falling prey to Satan's wyles it's makes me so upset, the way satan has turned lifel9ng Christians and churches over like a flick of a switch
Hello, thank you very much for answering all these questions. I like your way of thinking of vaccination based on science facts :-) I Have 2 questions : Do you also trust science about evolution (Darwin,...) or do you still want to believe in Adam and Eve ? When a couple has difficulties to have children (trying for many years), can they have ivf ?
Hi Laura. I understand that the Bruderhof refrain from using technology too often and I understand why. I noticed, however, that in your videos you're using a cell phone. Are individuals allowed to have a cell phone? I have older children and family and it would be nice to keep in contact in this way.
Hi Samuel we use technology. My friends Doreen and Rich over on the Bruderhof channel actually made a bunch of videos about this that you might find interesting: th-cam.com/play/PLok9NKiaKB45t9lYvWeEUvMFr5JHdf2KZ.html
I love your videos and appreciate your sweet, Godly spirit. When you said "fashion is so stupid,' on one side I agree. It can be taken way too far. But then I thought about it from the side that it's ok to love beautiful things. God made a beautiful world for us to enjoy. You're an artist, so, of course. you create beauty and appreciate beautiful art. Can't fashion be thought the same of? I'm by far not a materialistic person but I love wearing beautiful pieces as well as viewing beautiful art and looking at beautiful scenery. Isn't buying beautiful clothing the same as hanging beautiful art in one's home? What do you do with your paintings? Do you hang them to enjoy or give them away and if you do give them away, do you give them to fellow Bruderhofs to hang and admire in their homes? My question is certainly not meant to be contentious. I'm just very curious as to the parameters of the subject.
I agree, fashion can be modest yet beautiful, still celebrating the beauty God gave. I don't see God as being prude. Even the bible has verses that clearly celebrate the female form.
Oooh can the kids have an education in college if they want to? Like if this 18 year old is dead set on being a doctor, or a theologist, so something he could bring back with himself into the community, would you guys support that? Also who makes that decision, apart from the kids and the parents? I'm thinking free education obviously (I come from France and I don't really get the thing with exuberant American prices for education) and that the kid doesn't want to leave the community but wants to come back ; I suppose if he wanted to leave it would be an altogether different conversation :)
I'd like to know that too. I'm Christian as well (no particular denomination, just try to follow the bible while still accepting scientifically proven theories like gravity, evolution etc...) but I'm not against LGBT people. Just against the super liberal 'SJW' position and the people who try to push this stuff on kids (not answering questions the child may have, more like discussing gender dysphoria (transgender people) in freakin' kindergarten! I'm bisexual myself, but just happened to meet a great man instead of a woman, so now I'm married to a man and we had our first child - a baby girl named Mila Sophie - just a few months ago.
Violet Heroine hey, congratulations on having a baby :) it's great that you're not against the lgbtq+ community, but i'm not sure what you mean by "push this stuff on kids". it's a fact that trans people exist and there's not a problem with being trans. a child can't become trans by being told that trans people exist. also there's nothing about trans people's existance that's so terrible that kids can't know about it. sure gender is a complex thing but if a child grows up knowing there are all sort of people in this word, different ethnicities, different religions, etc can help make a child less prejudiced when dealing with all types of people in the future. of course a child doesn't have to know the ins and outs of different surgeries and chemical transitions that some trans people have, but just educating a child that some boys like boys instead of girls or some people are born boys but are actually girls is harmless in my opinion. i think a lot of lgbtq+ people wish that they'd grown up knowing that it's ok to be different from a young age and for that to have been more normalised so they want the next generation to know that rather than it being indoctrination or anything like that, because you can't make a child gay or bi or trans. hopefully you understand my point of view as a liberal a little bit more! best wishes to you and your family!
You’re not allowed to have sex or relationships with the same sex. The official line is the same as many fundamentalist Christians where they say “there’s nothing wrong with *experiencing* same sex attraction, as long as you don’t act on it”; not realising the insidious self-hatred that inflicts upon LGBT people.
@@misoweli Well, it's a matter of opinion/interpretation... Some Christians interpret the bible very literally while others see it more like a guide on how to live a good life, including helpful stories, metaphors, some translation errors (it IS a very old book after all). I belong to the latter type of Christian. We know now that homosexual people are born this way and that their sexuality can't be changed (otherwise conversion therapy would actually work). We as Christians all believe we're created by God, through literal creation like in genesis or through evolution (which was started by God) - doesn't matter... We're created by the Lord himself, so if I'm created by the Lord and I was born as a bisexual woman, God created me to be a bisexual woman. That's my opinion... I like to think God created LGBT people to teach mankind tolerance and make them realize the beauty of individuality as well as the fact that we're all just imperfect humans in the end...
Wow! I just found this channel and it is so interesting to hear about and I resonate with so much of what you say and think a lot of the ideas and freedom is so healthy for such a community! We are a family who believes in science but does not vaccinate our children (or ourselves.) I've read countless studies, in depth, not just the abstract and wow, the standards these studies are held to are very low and often the placebo is not actually inert as it should be but is everything in a vaccine that is concerning minus the virus itself. My question is as non-violent individuals, how do you feel about the aborted babies used in vaccines and consistently harvested in the search for new cell lines such as MRC-5?
There is only one vaccine wich uses the cloned cells of one fetus wich died centurys ago. Why should anyone care about a 40 year old fetus who was never able to feel anything. What exactly is your point here?
@@wurzellicht6657 That is not true and I'm not asking for anyone to care. I am asking the poster of this video how they feel about it and if they feel that is fine, I am okay with that too. Not to mention, myself as a non-violent individual, I also don't believe in harming the dogs, monkeys, aborted baby cows, and more for the production either.
Being against violence even in case of self defense seems an extreme and irresponsible position, even cynical because others have to exercise it to protect you. What would you do if someone attacks you or one of your loved ones? In that case, if you're logical, you couldn't even call the police.
I highly encourage you to read the book "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History" by Roman Bystrianyk & Dr. Suzanne Humphries (board certified MD).
The hospital here in upstate NY automatically enrolled my son in a series of 56 vaccinations over 2 years. Please this is not normal and the first 4 made him violently sick and fever of 102. The question may be in reference to the c19 vaccine coming. Are you going to submit to it as the rest of the world will? If so this is the only video I needed :( Do you guys also where masks???
How has she got a phone, a camera I mean she must edit so a computer. In the UK the Bruderhof dont really use electronics as far as I know I've never met or been to a bruderhof commune. But apparently this is how it works
We do use technology. If you're interested how we think about technology some of my friends made some videos on the subject. th-cam.com/video/a6EotQwQFmk/w-d-xo.html
Ah makes sense so their is no rule that says you cannot use technology . But the use of technology within your comunity is based on how it can add to your life and help you become closer to your faith? I only just heard about the Bruderhof comunity so I'm still learning about it the Bruderhof comunity so oviously not very educated on it. I just picked the technology thing up from a BBC documentary taking us into the lives of the Bruderhof within the UK following the people within the community and became interested with your lifestyle.
Yes that's right. I heard about the BBC documentary because quite a few folks I know were in it but I haven't seen it yet as it's restricted to the UK.
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof if you download VPN you can watch it on BBC iplayer I would love to see a video of what you think about the video of the video if you are able to watch it in the US about what you think about the documentary as someone from the community.
I didn't ,I finished watching a documentary on this specific community,and they had mentioned multiple times how they didn't have cell phones or i-pads,t.v.,ect yet this woman does
Shelby Curtis actually, now that you mention it I remember watching a documentary of a group here in the UK last night and they didn’t have phones or iPads etc. I wonder if they aren’t forbidden but the majority choose not to use them for tradition. I’m sorry if it came across like I was trying to correct you in an arrogant way, that was not my intention, I had, wrongly, assumed this was this first time you had encountered this group and got them mixed up with similar groups, and I was trying to be helpful but I can see how it may not have come across that way, that is entirely my fault, I’m sorry.
@@leea8706 it's fine but I did actually grow up with amish neighbors so I understand the difference,if it's a choice then I get that,however the documentary made sound as tho they weren't allowed the internet ,t.v.,ect,that's why I was confused
Shelby Curtis yeah I didn’t think about it until you mentioned it (clearly, because I made an idiot of myself 😅), but you’re absolutely right. I’ve never encountered any Amish people ever, I don’t think it’s a thing here, I was shocked when I read that the group in this video had a community in the UK because I really didn’t think we would have. We’re not a religious country at all though, so that may be why, I think there’s about 3 Mormons total in the whole country (that may be an exaggeration).
It's really changed things for us like everyone else. We don't have communal meal times, kids wear masks in school and so forth. Thankfully we haven't had any cases yet but we've been pretty careful.
I have a question for you; have you really investigated the consequences of vaccinations? There are many doctors all over the world who not vaccinate there children. Have you wondered why they don't do that? Because the consequences are very bad, because of the ingredients of the vaccine. Many other bad substances are added. I would recommend you that you investigate that. For your own and your child best!
While I’m not burderhof, I am Mennonite and I don’t Vaccinate. Does everyone feel that way ? Most do some don’t it’s a personal choice I believe. It should be no matter what faith your from 🙂
Thanks to Bruderhof and Laura for being so upfront and honest on internal and personal issues. @3:50 What do You mean by "we vaccinate"? Your family or the whole Bruderhof? I suppose it is the whole Bruderhof as the question @3:22 targets the community, not the individual family. So, are vaccines mandatory for Bruderhof members or is one or a family "pressured" or "talked into" doing so? Or is it up to the individual family whether children get vaccined or not? In general, I always find it remarkable that people who care about what they eat and prefer natural healing methods or are Christian by belief, still get vaccines with a whole lot of toxins directly injected into one's body without any firewall or barrier and also some vaccines rely on aborted fetus tissue to develope...
All of the vaccines I've taken or Branson's been given are ethically produced (I checked). I just think you can't argue with the facts that prior to vaccines many people died from diseases that they don't die from now. I've never met anyone on the Bruderhof who was against vaccines but I'm sure if someone had a big issue with it they could just not have the vaccine. But I think that would not be smart. Thanks!
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof the reason ppl don’t die from diseases so much anymore is because we live in a very much cleaner environment we have running water. Good plumbing and much much better sanitation and they have brainwashed so many generations that it’s all about vaccines. That’s the biggest lie society has ever created
Hopefully you have followed up on your research about vaccinating your children. At the time of writing this, we are at 3 shots minimum, and all time Covid #s in your state of NY.
When they are talking about vaccinations, I don't believe it was in regards to COVID -- but rather all the other vaccines that a child would normally receive.
Jesus Christ saves from sin. Romans 3: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Hebrews 9: 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Isaiah 64: 6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Revelation 21: 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Romans 5: 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Romans 10: 9-10. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Jesus said John 5: 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 1John 5: 10-13 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Ephesians 2: 8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Romans 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 15: 3-4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 2 Corinthians 5: 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. ....................................................
While I respect your choice, I am wondering how you reconcile it with your christian faith as some vaccines were cultured using aborted fetal cells. It seems more of a moral issue rather than if they are effective for some Christians.
@Teena Wagnard yes. For Christians who have compromised with evil the response I normally get is since the baby was murdered anyway its okay to profit off the 'good' it brinngs through vaccination. As if God would be impressed with such an excuse. Quite surprised to see one from such a conservative communtiy partaking in it. Its also sad to see the lack of faith some christians have in God's design of the human body.
@@alyssapavlik2521 you are entitled to your beliefs but the Christian view is babies are people at conception. Therefore Christians should not partake in the murder of unborn children. So we are surprised to see someone from a conservative group doing so (her choice).
Jane if life starts at conception, how come when we're born we're not 9 months old? it's only considered murder when you can live out of the host (mother). this is why killing parasites and other things IN YOUR BODY THAT ARE ALIVE is not murder. because it cannot survive outside of the host.
@@alyssapavlik2521 again Im not debating whether its life or not. The Christian is that it is. And partaking in abortion is sin so its interesting to see a quite conservative Christian utilise them.
What about the vaccines that are cultured on aborted fetus tissue and contain animal derivatives? Do you just look passed those or is it not a black and white thing? I wouldn’t expect to find such watered down Christianity in something so radical and set apart from the world.
@@francoise4678 starting with CoVid vaccine (mRNA), genetically engineered vaccines likely will become the norm. Talking about "new normality". Talking about "playing god". Talking about "building a big tower trusting on men rather than god". No long-term studies. Applied to billions. What could possibly go wrong? Don't trust pharma like the sheeple who took "Thalidomide"/ "contergan" in the 60's - also in violation of god's law - to avoid birth pains. And look at the results.
I’m really disappointed in the use of technology and partaking in vaccines. I was really impressed when I started looking into the bruderhof now I see that it’s definitely not for me. I won’t cherry pick from the Bible.
does the Bible really say you can't use vaccines ??? or technology ( it depends on what you use it for, you are using it too to comment on the video, and so am I )
Not only are you a hypocrite and idiot for commenting this from a phone on youtube.com which are both technology, but you already do cherry pick the bible. Of course, unless you don’t eat seafood, don’t cut your hair, don’t wear mixed fabrics, don’t wear jewelry, don’t swear, have never told a lie, and so much more, which I’m sure you do all that and much worse.
The holy spirit testifies what is Right and wrong also by reading that overwhelmingly support for this man made Autracity is supported unfortunately I also will not make that very big mistake faith without wisdom on the spiritual battle for the souls is going to cost so many Christians, question is simply living a biblical lifestyle is no guarantee to bring saved,
Stoked you researched vaccination. Stoked you vaccinate your kids. Good for you guys :)
Good, I'm glad I saw your comment now I don't have to watch the whole video I got the answer here. 😁👌
You're a complete utter fool
Loved your response to the vaccine question - just so calm, non inflammatory and polite. Overall I'm impressed at how much you think about and educate yourself on issues (judging from watching a few videos now). Everything you say is quite well supported and critically reasoned but you present in such a joyful and calm way - thanks for giving us some insight into the Bruderhof. God Bless!
Great to hear you take the wise decision to vaccinate your children! X
I totally agree with you .... some diseases are "coming back" precisely because some people don't want to vaccinate their children ( or themselves )
@Chuck B except that if a lot of people do this, some diseases will reappear .. so you and your family are in fact protected by the people who do have their children vaccinated .. even if you are within your parental rights ( I don't know the laws in your country, I'm French and in France some vaccines are compulsory )
@@francoise4678 Why do pro vaccines always bully anti vaccines?
@@alpenhuhn1 I've had a discussion with Chuck B, I don't think I have bullied him
@@francoise4678 As a nurse who has worked with vulnerable communities (children with serious medical conditions), I'm aware that some children can not be vaccinated due to their weakened conditions. When someone with a healthy kid refuses, stating it is their right as a parent, what they should be stating is that they are willing to ride on the coat tails of herd immunity, including vaccinated kids. That's the problem with civil disagreement: people can throw out the "it's my right" card as if it defends their antisocial position. Those antivax kids can spread the disease that is currently asymptomatic. They might get sick and need a few weeks to recover, but it is deadly to my students (cystic fibrosis, cerebral palsy and cancer) . So, yeah, I have an attitude about it and I support mandatory vaccinations for children entering public classrooms. Period. End of debate.
I love that TH-cam suggested this video out of nowhere after I finished watching Paris Hilton documentary XD
Seams even TH-cam has a sense of humour then. From Rich dollar princess to people without money !
Same :D
omg me too!!
Like the juxtaposition of maybe The Simple Life. It's just a sorta #TBT
She's just so purely beautiful. I feel clean just watching her. I love the thought of this way of life but I'm not religious but it must be so stress free with no bills no worrying about rent or where your nxt meals coming frm.
I guess they have other problems... I don't think life is without stress and worry for them.
I like her! She’s well spoken and kind
Thank you so much for researching and not only choosing to protect your kids but also protect others
This is defently the best take on christianity of all.
I am not a Christian and I totally agree with you.
*definitely
I love your videos because you are full of joy, and that is my ONE WORD for this school year. Joy JOY joy!
Your skin looks really clear and bright
Very sensible. Here in the Uk was have voluntary vaccination which works very well and most people have it done as I have for all our children.
I love the head covering/ veil! I usually don't like pink nut I have a dress that cover and it's great
You guys seem like a really nice community. I'm pretty jealous to be honest! Lucky ducks.
Id like to ask a question. What are your beliefs/views on medical marijuana usage?
That is such a loving way to live.
Thanks for all your answers. My wife and I literally just watched the BBC documentary and were wondering about the medical side of things with her being a paediatrics doctor and both of us growing in fairly traditional baptist households, her in the UK and me in Romania.
Thanks! Hope you enjoyed the doc. I'm still looking forward to seeing it myself.
Just found out a group of y'all bought the old college up the road! I am hoping to be able to visit sometime!
Oh how cool! I can't wait to visit down there. I hear it's beautiful.
It is! When you come visit make sure to google Bald River falls and take a drive there. It is breathtaking!
Do you receive any kind of an allowance for any small things not provided from the community? What happens if someone makes a special gift for someone? Is it automatically community property that you might have to give up at any time? Do you consider yourselves spiritual cousins to the Mennonites, Amish, and Hutterites? Can a Bruderhof member marry someone who is not a member? Is the Bruderhof like many Amish or Hutterites or even some Mennonites in the fact that they rarely if ever go to school past grade 8?
I wonder if they make those gifts and when they grow out of them they pass them on
I do not know but I was not thinking of a clothing item that a person might grow out of. I just think it would be unfair to the receiver to expect them to give away a special gift and might make the giver feel bad if they found out that a special gift they gave to someone was valued so little that it was given away without a thought.
Thank you so much for answering my question and questions of a couple of other people! I really enjoy hearing these things!
And you are right, by the time somebody has this calling on their life, they could care less about their stuff and shiny gadgets… The Most High God calls us to something bigger and that’s all we need- HIM ❤️
I suppose my question in regards to vaccines was more of autonomy. Whether or not each parent has that complete autonomy over their children or if it’s “required“ to vaccinate once you live inside the community. I totally understand people who still vaccinate. But because my son was vaccine damaged, I won’t be vaccinating him anymore.
I definitely don’t judge others who have had a good experience with vaccines!
Thanks for responding. So sorry to hear that about your son. I totally get how that changes your perspective.
I believe in sharing things, too. But I'm not a member, nor will I be. So I use eBay, Charity Shops and some of those Give Boxes or book boxes nearby. ... It's actually fun to see what the book box will come up with. Once, it gave me the autobiography of Conrad Hilton, "Be my guest", which I found very interesting.
Interesting perspective. Thanks, Laura.
I think their lifestyle is like living in a convent, except for the fact you can get married, lol. However, I don't think she answers the questions very thoroughly. I watched the answers twice, and I still didn't think the answers were thorough enough.
Sometimes when we already know the answer, it can be a bit difficult to discern what details someone else would need in order to understand the whole picture. I don’t answer fully when asked certain questions, and most of us don’t, so I understand why she won’t fully explain!
What's wrong with living in a convent- except for the fact that you can't get married?
Anne Brit Raaen I don’t think she said a single BAD thing about living in a convent.
I happened upon your channel. I love your sense of humor. Thank you for your channel. I think I may join it. I’m enjoying your channel so far.
SAGE TEA!! NOW THATS GOOD ADVICE THANKYOU LAURA X
Parents and their feelings about noisy electronic toys are universal! Lol
It would be cool if you had a guest on that joined the community later in life :)
I'll try and find someone who's willing to come on camera with me. Harder than you think lol
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof Okay :). I know a lot of people are camera shy. But if you can find someone I would love to hear their experiences.
Great video as always, thanks so much for these. I believe you mentioned in the past that you spent several years living in a Bruderhof community in England. As a Brit myself, I'd be fascinated in hearing more about your experience living here, any differences you noticed in how British people behave compared to Americans or any differences in how Bruderhof communities operate between our countries. Let me guess, you weren't a big fan of our weather? It gets a bit old having permanently grey skies. You asked that other British guy how he found out about your channel; for me I think it was because of the publicity here surrounding a BBC documentary that was supposed to air about the Bruderhof in the UK. Sadly it didn't air in the end for some reason, which really bummed me out because I was super hyped for it and I was constantly checking when it would air for months. I've given up on it airing at this point. Say, you wouldn't happen to have super secret special access to it that you could share, right? Worth a shot!
Wish I did. Would have loved to have seen it myself. I loved England. More on that in another video.
I actually came here from that video. It was uploaded one week ago.
The channel is "Fiona Bruce"
Title: BBC: We Visited a Broderhof Commune, This is What We Saw.
loved your response
Gotta make some sage tea now!
I'll be honest, my concern with your community (and others who are very similar) is the vaccination point. Now, I don't assume you don't, as it would not be fair to you. But when I read the tittle, my heart skipped a bit because "what if..." It's important to mention that I am undergoing chemo and have been for a years, so this is the reason people being vaccinated is so important to me. I'm more likely to get sick and have complications (so Covid has been really stressful so far).
Also, I just started watching a couple of your video and I really enjoy your joyful attitude and how you look so comfortable in front of the camera (if it's only an illusion, well done! because it really seems like this is really easy for you!) wishing you all the best!
3:16 medical care. 👍
The questions and answers are always very informative! 🤗
Great answers for the questions
I’m so happy you guys vaccinate your kids! I’m glad to see that you look at it from such a rational perspective and actually look at the research. I’ve seen a lot of religious people especially who don’t look at the research and who then also don’t vaccinate.
I love your page, I live near Woodcrest and took a field trip there in 5th grade! It’s a beautiful place.
So cool! Maybe I met you because I grew up in Woodcrest.
Laura from the Bruderhof Perhaps!
Laura I love your society but I would hate to wear such coloured clothes and a headscarf .apart from that it seems perfect to me
Thank you for sharing!!!
Great answers to fundamental questions as usual Laura.
Q: How did the rocket painting turn out btw?
Answer to that coming up in a video shortly
Love these videos! Love your lifestyle ❤️
Thanks so much 😊
Is vaccination a requirement for membership and participation in the school?
Do children get to keep things as keepsakes? I have so so many I would hate to be without.
Two years later, I can’t help wondering if the community sees the most recent in the news “vaxx” as something entirely different altogether …
Hi Laura, love your spirit. I would kindly suggest you do more research into the politics of vaccinations. There is alot of political influence on research grants and research papers to do with this. The heavy metals from vaccines lodge anywhere in the body (including the brain) and don't easily get removed, and could simply just stay there. Also human DNA in vaccines (whether from contamination or otherwise) has an extremely high chance of causing autoimmune disease due to your immune systems response to it.
It is entirely unchristian to take these particular vaccines, unfortunately most Christians spend little time understanding the world we now live in and are falling prey to Satan's wyles it's makes me so upset, the way satan has turned lifel9ng Christians and churches over like a flick of a switch
@AliSand that is odd….
Hello, thank you very much for answering all these questions. I like your way of thinking of vaccination based on science facts :-) I Have 2 questions :
Do you also trust science about evolution (Darwin,...) or do you still want to believe in Adam and Eve ?
When a couple has difficulties to have children (trying for many years), can they have ivf ?
Nice SAGE wisdom👌
lol
Peppermint tea is good for upset stomach, do you were jewelry like crosses?
I don't have any jewelry accept my wedding ring and the ring I got when I became a member.
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof but is it a personal choice or ... is it forbiddent to wear any kind of jewelry ? ( a sort of general rule )
Very intresting videos
I thought you weren't allowed internet 🤦♂️, is there a video on what you can and can't do?
We have internet. That's an interesting idea. I'll think about it.
I would love to join the Bruderhof
so why not ask them how you could do so ??
Hi Laura. I understand that the Bruderhof refrain from using technology too often and I understand why. I noticed, however, that in your videos you're using a cell phone. Are individuals allowed to have a cell phone? I have older children and family and it would be nice to keep in contact in this way.
Hi Samuel we use technology. My friends Doreen and Rich over on the Bruderhof channel actually made a bunch of videos about this that you might find interesting: th-cam.com/play/PLok9NKiaKB45t9lYvWeEUvMFr5JHdf2KZ.html
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof thank you Laura. I'll look at that video. Keep up the great work. 😊
You are an Angel Laura
I love your videos and appreciate your sweet, Godly spirit. When you said "fashion is so stupid,' on one side I agree. It can be taken way too far. But then I thought about it from the side that it's ok to love beautiful things. God made a beautiful world for us to enjoy. You're an artist, so, of course. you create beauty and appreciate beautiful art. Can't fashion be thought the same of? I'm by far not a materialistic person but I love wearing beautiful pieces as well as viewing beautiful art and looking at beautiful scenery. Isn't buying beautiful clothing the same as hanging beautiful art in one's home? What do you do with your paintings? Do you hang them to enjoy or give them away and if you do give them away, do you give them to fellow Bruderhofs to hang and admire in their homes? My question is certainly not meant to be contentious. I'm just very curious as to the parameters of the subject.
I agree, fashion can be modest yet beautiful, still celebrating the beauty God gave. I don't see God as being prude. Even the bible has verses that clearly celebrate the female form.
A bit of question-dodging there, about someone who joins, hands over all their money, then changes their mind, and wants to leave.
at the end of the video she states that they would work it out -- since she never left, she would not know the specifics.
Oooh can the kids have an education in college if they want to?
Like if this 18 year old is dead set on being a doctor, or a theologist, so something he could bring back with himself into the community, would you guys support that?
Also who makes that decision, apart from the kids and the parents?
I'm thinking free education obviously (I come from France and I don't really get the thing with exuberant American prices for education) and that the kid doesn't want to leave the community but wants to come back ; I suppose if he wanted to leave it would be an altogether different conversation :)
Like anywhere kids express interest in what they want to study the community does the best we can to support
I will come as a pauper
I notice a small hint of accent (especially on 'L's'). What is that influence?
are there any lgbtq+ members?
I'd like to know that too. I'm Christian as well (no particular denomination, just try to follow the bible while still accepting scientifically proven theories like gravity, evolution etc...) but I'm not against LGBT people. Just against the super liberal 'SJW' position and the people who try to push this stuff on kids (not answering questions the child may have, more like discussing gender dysphoria (transgender people) in freakin' kindergarten!
I'm bisexual myself, but just happened to meet a great man instead of a woman, so now I'm married to a man and we had our first child - a baby girl named Mila Sophie - just a few months ago.
Violet Heroine hey, congratulations on having a baby :) it's great that you're not against the lgbtq+ community, but i'm not sure what you mean by "push this stuff on kids". it's a fact that trans people exist and there's not a problem with being trans. a child can't become trans by being told that trans people exist. also there's nothing about trans people's existance that's so terrible that kids can't know about it. sure gender is a complex thing but if a child grows up knowing there are all sort of people in this word, different ethnicities, different religions, etc can help make a child less prejudiced when dealing with all types of people in the future. of course a child doesn't have to know the ins and outs of different surgeries and chemical transitions that some trans people have, but just educating a child that some boys like boys instead of girls or some people are born boys but are actually girls is harmless in my opinion. i think a lot of lgbtq+ people wish that they'd grown up knowing that it's ok to be different from a young age and for that to have been more normalised so they want the next generation to know that rather than it being indoctrination or anything like that, because you can't make a child gay or bi or trans. hopefully you understand my point of view as a liberal a little bit more! best wishes to you and your family!
You’re not allowed to have sex or relationships with the same sex. The official line is the same as many fundamentalist Christians where they say “there’s nothing wrong with *experiencing* same sex attraction, as long as you don’t act on it”; not realising the insidious self-hatred that inflicts upon LGBT people.
Ianthe May that's very upsetting :(
@@misoweli Well, it's a matter of opinion/interpretation...
Some Christians interpret the bible very literally while others see it more like a guide on how to live a good life, including helpful stories, metaphors, some translation errors (it IS a very old book after all). I belong to the latter type of Christian.
We know now that homosexual people are born this way and that their sexuality can't be changed (otherwise conversion therapy would actually work). We as Christians all believe we're created by God, through literal creation like in genesis or through evolution (which was started by God) - doesn't matter... We're created by the Lord himself, so if I'm created by the Lord and I was born as a bisexual woman, God created me to be a bisexual woman. That's my opinion...
I like to think God created LGBT people to teach mankind tolerance and make them realize the beauty of individuality as well as the fact that we're all just imperfect humans in the end...
Your dress is beautiful 💕
Thank you! 😊
If people hand everything over when they leave they do not get it back
Wow! I just found this channel and it is so interesting to hear about and I resonate with so much of what you say and think a lot of the ideas and freedom is so healthy for such a community!
We are a family who believes in science but does not vaccinate our children (or ourselves.) I've read countless studies, in depth, not just the abstract and wow, the standards these studies are held to are very low and often the placebo is not actually inert as it should be but is everything in a vaccine that is concerning minus the virus itself.
My question is as non-violent individuals, how do you feel about the aborted babies used in vaccines and consistently harvested in the search for new cell lines such as MRC-5?
There is only one vaccine wich uses the cloned cells of one fetus wich died centurys ago.
Why should anyone care about a 40 year old fetus who was never able to feel anything.
What exactly is your point here?
@@wurzellicht6657 That is not true and I'm not asking for anyone to care. I am asking the poster of this video how they feel about it and if they feel that is fine, I am okay with that too.
Not to mention, myself as a non-violent individual, I also don't believe in harming the dogs, monkeys, aborted baby cows, and more for the production either.
l love this lady
Being against violence even in case of self defense seems an extreme and irresponsible position, even cynical because others have to exercise it to protect you. What would you do if someone attacks you or one of your loved ones? In that case, if you're logical, you couldn't even call the police.
No offense, but ZZZZzzzzzz ... glad you're happy and enjoying your life.
I highly encourage you to read the book "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History" by Roman Bystrianyk & Dr. Suzanne Humphries (board certified MD).
The hospital here in upstate NY automatically enrolled my son in a series of 56 vaccinations over 2 years. Please this is not normal and the first 4 made him violently sick and fever of 102. The question may be in reference to the c19 vaccine coming. Are you going to submit to it as the rest of the world will? If so this is the only video I needed :(
Do you guys also where masks???
what about your phones? those do belong to you?
No they don't
Is your view on vaccination your own or is it held by everyone in the community, or are there those who choose not to?
Everyone I know here has their kids vaccinated
That is disappointing
I mean everyone has the right to do what they want but I would not like the peer pressure
I sure hope your community does not plan to get the new RNA/DNA "covid vaccine"!
So happy that you vaccinate :)
Same :)
Yay! Glad u get vaccines 🙂
How has she got a phone, a camera I mean she must edit so a computer. In the UK the Bruderhof dont really use electronics as far as I know I've never met or been to a bruderhof commune. But apparently this is how it works
We do use technology. If you're interested how we think about technology some of my friends made some videos on the subject. th-cam.com/video/a6EotQwQFmk/w-d-xo.html
Ah makes sense so their is no rule that says you cannot use technology . But the use of technology within your comunity is based on how it can add to your life and help you become closer to your faith? I only just heard about the Bruderhof comunity so I'm still learning about it the Bruderhof comunity so oviously not very educated on it. I just picked the technology thing up from a BBC documentary taking us into the lives of the Bruderhof within the UK following the people within the community and became interested with your lifestyle.
Yes that's right. I heard about the BBC documentary because quite a few folks I know were in it but I haven't seen it yet as it's restricted to the UK.
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof if you download VPN you can watch it on BBC iplayer I would love to see a video of what you think about the video of the video if you are able to watch it in the US about what you think about the documentary as someone from the community.
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof th-cam.com/video/Zolj2ubbHCw/w-d-xo.html
Its here to watch on TH-cam
I support a mix between Socialism and Capitalism. Europeans would call it Social Democracy.
So... This is literally Christian socialism... Now I am very intrigue...
I thought they weren't allowed phones or internet....
This person isn’t amish or mennonite, just in case you thought they were.
I didn't ,I finished watching a documentary on this specific community,and they had mentioned multiple times how they didn't have cell phones or i-pads,t.v.,ect yet this woman does
Shelby Curtis actually, now that you mention it I remember watching a documentary of a group here in the UK last night and they didn’t have phones or iPads etc.
I wonder if they aren’t forbidden but the majority choose not to use them for tradition.
I’m sorry if it came across like I was trying to correct you in an arrogant way, that was not my intention, I had, wrongly, assumed this was this first time you had encountered this group and got them mixed up with similar groups, and I was trying to be helpful but I can see how it may not have come across that way, that is entirely my fault, I’m sorry.
@@leea8706 it's fine but I did actually grow up with amish neighbors so I understand the difference,if it's a choice then I get that,however the documentary made sound as tho they weren't allowed the internet ,t.v.,ect,that's why I was confused
Shelby Curtis yeah I didn’t think about it until you mentioned it (clearly, because I made an idiot of myself 😅), but you’re absolutely right.
I’ve never encountered any Amish people ever, I don’t think it’s a thing here, I was shocked when I read that the group in this video had a community in the UK because I really didn’t think we would have. We’re not a religious country at all though, so that may be why, I think there’s about 3 Mormons total in the whole country (that may be an exaggeration).
Is the head covering really necessary? I’m so claustrophobic not sure I could do that....
What does that have to do with being claustrophobic 🤨
thats not what claustrophobia even is lol.
thumbs up for trusting science with vaccines.
I'm so happy to hear that you vaccinate!! Also, I find herbal tea and honey to be a wonderful home remedy for a cold.
Yes! Thank you!
Merry Christmas to you and yours! I wish you all a healthy holiday season. 🎄
Is your community are you impacted by COVID?
It's really changed things for us like everyone else. We don't have communal meal times, kids wear masks in school and so forth. Thankfully we haven't had any cases yet but we've been pretty careful.
I have a question for you; have you really investigated the consequences of vaccinations? There are many doctors all over the world who not vaccinate there children. Have you wondered why they don't do that? Because the consequences are very bad, because of the ingredients of the vaccine. Many other bad substances are added. I would recommend you that you investigate that. For your own and your child best!
While I’m not burderhof, I am Mennonite and I don’t Vaccinate. Does everyone feel that way ? Most do some don’t it’s a personal choice I believe. It should be no matter what faith your from 🙂
Thanks to Bruderhof and Laura for being so upfront and honest on internal and personal issues.
@3:50 What do You mean by "we vaccinate"? Your family or the whole Bruderhof? I suppose it is the whole Bruderhof as the question @3:22 targets the community, not the individual family.
So, are vaccines mandatory for Bruderhof members or is one or a family "pressured" or "talked into" doing so? Or is it up to the individual family whether children get vaccined or not?
In general, I always find it remarkable that people who care about what they eat and prefer natural healing methods or are Christian by belief, still get vaccines with a whole lot of toxins directly injected into one's body without any firewall or barrier and also some vaccines rely on aborted fetus tissue to develope...
All of the vaccines I've taken or Branson's been given are ethically produced (I checked). I just think you can't argue with the facts that prior to vaccines many people died from diseases that they don't die from now. I've never met anyone on the Bruderhof who was against vaccines but I'm sure if someone had a big issue with it they could just not have the vaccine. But I think that would not be smart. Thanks!
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof I am thankful for the answer
@@LaurafromtheBruderhof the reason ppl don’t die from diseases so much anymore is because we live in a very much cleaner environment we have running water. Good plumbing and much much better sanitation and they have brainwashed so many generations that it’s all about vaccines. That’s the biggest lie society has ever created
refreshing to see your take on vaccinations, glad you're lead by successful research
Hopefully you have followed up on your research about vaccinating your children. At the time of writing this, we are at 3 shots minimum, and all time Covid #s in your state of NY.
When they are talking about vaccinations, I don't believe it was in regards to COVID -- but rather all the other vaccines that a child would normally receive.
I respect your decision not to vaccinate, but are people forced to vaccinate if they don't want to?
No one is forced
Laura: Good on you on vaccinating, and on your making your view public.
Specht ihr auch deutsch im bruderhof ? Die bruderhöfer kamen ja aus DEUTSCHLAND !
Ja sprechen wir. Aber ich nicht so viel. Wir haben zwei Bruderhöfe in Deutschland und ein in Österreich www.bruderhof.com/de/wo-wir-sind
That person mentioned that they like Elderberry syrup 🤢 I hate that stuff
Jesus Christ saves from sin.
Romans 3: 23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Hebrews 9: 27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Isaiah 64: 6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Revelation 21: 8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Romans 5: 8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
John 3: 16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 14: 6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Romans 10: 9-10.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Jesus said John 5: 24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
1John 5: 10-13
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Ephesians 2: 8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Romans 8: 1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 15: 3-4
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
2 Corinthians 5: 21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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You vaccinate, i subscribe :)
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What kind of "research" did you do on vaccines? I wonder.... You truly did not dig very deep.
Any other exx vaxxers here?
Ex-vaxxer?
@@amys495 any pro vaxxer that vaccinated their kids and right after doing so caused sids or a vaccine injury
While I respect your choice, I am wondering how you reconcile it with your christian faith as some vaccines were cultured using aborted fetal cells. It seems more of a moral issue rather than if they are effective for some Christians.
@Teena Wagnard yes. For Christians who have compromised with evil the response I normally get is since the baby was murdered anyway its okay to profit off the 'good' it brinngs through vaccination. As if God would be impressed with such an excuse. Quite surprised to see one from such a conservative communtiy partaking in it. Its also sad to see the lack of faith some christians have in God's design of the human body.
Teena Wagnard it's not dead children. it was cells, not a life. it could not survive on its own yet, therefore it's a clump of cells.
@@alyssapavlik2521 you are entitled to your beliefs but the Christian view is babies are people at conception. Therefore Christians should not partake in the murder of unborn children. So we are surprised to see someone from a conservative group doing so (her choice).
Jane if life starts at conception, how come when we're born we're not 9 months old? it's only considered murder when you can live out of the host (mother). this is why killing parasites and other things IN YOUR BODY THAT ARE ALIVE is not murder. because it cannot survive outside of the host.
@@alyssapavlik2521 again Im not debating whether its life or not. The Christian is that it is. And partaking in abortion is sin so its interesting to see a quite conservative Christian utilise them.
Maybe you should watch VAXXED.
What about the vaccines that are cultured on aborted fetus tissue and contain animal derivatives? Do you just look passed those or is it not a black and white thing? I wouldn’t expect to find such watered down Christianity in something so radical and set apart from the world.
Totally disappointed that you vaccinate your children. Not only are vaccines dangerous but they are against God.
Amen
why do you say that vaccines "are against God" ?
@Bert Clayton " if .... they MIGHT very well process them, then ... " so all you say is just based on suppositions ?
@@francoise4678 starting with CoVid vaccine (mRNA), genetically engineered vaccines likely will become the norm. Talking about "new normality". Talking about "playing god". Talking about "building a big tower trusting on men rather than god". No long-term studies. Applied to billions. What could possibly go wrong?
Don't trust pharma like the sheeple who took "Thalidomide"/ "contergan" in the 60's - also in violation of god's law - to avoid birth pains. And look at the results.
@@francoise4678 Because all vaccines have cells from aborted infants in them. Also aborted babies are used to test vaccines.
I’m really disappointed in the use of technology and partaking in vaccines. I was really impressed when I started looking into the bruderhof now I see that it’s definitely not for me. I won’t cherry pick from the Bible.
does the Bible really say you can't use vaccines ??? or technology ( it depends on what you use it for, you are using it too to comment on the video, and so am I )
Says the woman in a TH-cam comment....
Not only are you a hypocrite and idiot for commenting this from a phone on youtube.com which are both technology, but you already do cherry pick the bible. Of course, unless you don’t eat seafood, don’t cut your hair, don’t wear mixed fabrics, don’t wear jewelry, don’t swear, have never told a lie, and so much more, which I’m sure you do all that and much worse.
The holy spirit testifies what is Right and wrong also by reading that overwhelmingly support for this man made Autracity is supported unfortunately I also will not make that very big mistake faith without wisdom on the spiritual battle for the souls is going to cost so many Christians, question is simply living a biblical lifestyle is no guarantee to bring saved,
Excellent presentation - but DO try to AVOID VERBAL TICS like saying "um" all the time