@@akkibajaj705Drove out Amy henning who wrote Uncharted and the legendary Soul Reaver franchise , Ruining a beloved character like Joel and killing him in the worst way possible , Letting Anita Sarkeesium be involved in the development of many projects “ She is a toxic feminists who hate men “ ,, Yeah man we hate nail Cuckman for no reason .
No idiot, Uncharted 3 was underwhelming, Uncharted 4 was written by Druckmann and was way better, her ideas for 4 were scrapped because they were garbage, Amy Henning had no part in TLOU 1 , Druckmann wrote it too. And Henning shipped not one game anyone remembers after she left.
you forgot: - abuse reports of men harassing other men sexually and HR ignoring it - false marketing on TLOU2 making it look like Joel is in the game more than he ended up being - calling a resolution patch a "remaster" for the PS4 uncharted games - leaving out the multiplayer portions out of TLOU/U4 with the rereleases - conflict with Bend on their development of Days Gone because ND felt they should have the only zombie game - conflict with Visual Arts team where ND stopped them from making the Uncharted remake they wanted - the Naughty Dog Agenda
It's sad when the biggest news from this studio nowadays are cash grab remasters, Mid HBO tv show updates and overpriced merch for outbreak day. They always try to cover bad news with "we are working on SP games guys". We'll be lucky if we get a game in 2027...
@@victor_734 It's not enough, even being the leader in console sales, Sony's still in the red. Your beloved single player exclusives aren't even enough. Why do you think Sony's playing it safe with all these sequels, remakes and remaster. Y'all been playing the same ip's for almost decade now. Same 3rd person, qte bs. Square took a loss with ff16, over 150mil ps owners but just lil over 3mil bought the game. Why do u think Square is done with exclusivity? The Box is about to take over, haven't even got started yet..
I'm glad you've decided to take the title for biggest Naughty Dog TH-camr Jeremy. Couldn't be me 😉 In all seriousness, great video man! Loving the effort put into the scripts and footage.
Bro its crazy when you show those flash backs of you. Ive been subscribed for years and you don't realize how much you grew up on TH-cam until you see those flash backs. Its crazy.
I'm sure if they kept Amy's script for Uncharted 4, they would have had a much bigger role for my boi Hector Alcazar. Something tells me he wasn't supposed to be scrapped. "Samuel, are you ready to seek your fortune?"
In before this video pops off. Such a well made documentary and after watching your content for about a decade you are the perfect person to make this type of video.
Company went downhill after Bruce Straley and Amy Henning left (or allegedly were forced out by Neil Druckmann in a power play) if Last of Us 2 was so successful we would've had a DLC of Neils beloved Abby by now.
In my opinion, Naughty Dog became straight trash when Amy left, Anita's feminist influence was really starting to show with Uncharted 4 and it just got worse after that. Companies will watch their product burn to the ground just for an ESG score.
It literally didn’t start with uncharted 4 people see one female capable of putting in work and they think it’s woke lol it started with the last of us part 2
Hear me out... It's Neil Cuckman that's been drowning Naughty Dog to the ground when it comes to creative standpoint but ever since he took the reigns as Creative Director speaks for itself...
It’s almost like all those pointless awards tlous2 won were for biggest disappointment of that year….. NaughtyDog’s reputation has been tarnished regardless.
2016 election broke this company just like Hollywood. This is a sad demise for a company that made many of my favorite games of all time. You can’t say these facts waste your time when it’s clear when their downslide began.
Once Shawn Layden left Playstation, every studio has gone stagnant. The showmanship left with Layden. Naughty Dog went downhill when Neil migrated to Movies, and said forget those games
He produced the Uncharted Film (mediocre trash) and has been dedicating his time more so to The Last Of Us TV show as showrunner/writer. In simple terms, he went to Hollywoo.
@@sleasy01 firings and layoffs? What are you, a human resources manager or something? What concern is it of yours if Sony lays off staff? That's the nature of business. It doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever. Which 8 cancelled games?
Just wanted to write that you summed up the situation rather well for the chaotic mess that is Naughty Dog. Between the production hell of the last two titles, the damaging PR interviews with Druckmann and Gross admitting via Indiewire the mess the script was in and how they changed it constantly on the fly, it is clear the plot has been lost on the whole company with retention numbers through the roof and having to rely on contractors via the VFX industry to get it done (what happened during TLOU 2 production). Honestly, with so many key figures gone including the founder Evan Wells, it's safe to say they have gone the way of Bioware in becoming a husk of their former selves. It sucks but it's inevitable. PS: Neil Druckmann deserves the criticism and getting pimp slap for wasting the talented actor Jeffery Wright (fantastic recently in American Fiction) for two scenes...yes only two scenes.
Evan Wells wasn't the founder. He was made co President in 2005 and full President in 2017. He retired after 30 years in the industry, it's not like he left somewhere else (at least nothing like that has been announced). Like Druckmann he was promoted to President from within. Not sure why people are against them promoting successful Devs from within like they always have
The saying is “what goes up eventually comes down.” Throw something in the air and gravity will bring it back down. Drop something on the ground and it might bounce back up, but it might also just hit the ground and stay there.
great video, im glad some have finally seen the light that i have seen 10 years ago. ND biggest problem was when they publicly said theyre going to stop making fun games. serious/drama games take a very long time to make and as we all can see, get tiring.
Well done I'm so proud of you. You could consider me one of your OG subscribers. I subscribe to you less than 100 subscribers at the time 11- 13 year ago. You used to do PSN updates on PS3, you used to be nervous talking in front of the camera. For over the years you have grown into a stronger person an overcome any hurdles that is coming at you. Keep doing your thing don't let any Nay Sayers say any better and keep pushing yourself to the limit and I will believe that you keep growing. Thank you for all your hard work.
I disagree with your last point brotha. I don't think Naughty Dog tryna pick up the pieces of what they once were. They are trying to successfully complete an identity shift from what they once were. Neil is not interested in bringing back what made Naughty Dog the great studio that bought them the fame and fortune.
I'm pretty sure R* has lost valuable people throughout. The thing is, as a studio, they never compromise what they believe in. They also uphold their standard of quality. Workplace wise is another story tho.
Hardcore single player gang was going woooo on Twitter. While other folks were sad. I'm mainly single player myself but even I feel bad for folks who were looking forward to it.
After watching this entire video, I can't help but worry about the state of Naughty Dog. Yeah they blessed us with some many great games, but it all came at a cost. And now they're giving us remasters and remakes that we don't need(but low-key though, I'll gladly take a Jak & Daxter remake)and cancelled a game that we all been looking forward to. Like what's going to happen next for Naughty Dog?
Well unlike EA or Microsoft, thankfully, Sony doesn't have a habit of killing studios. Even the team behind Days Gone, which Sony has been treating with nothing but overt contempt despite raking in exponential profits, gets to stay alive but be shuffled off to do work for other studios. So what you can expect to see if things get worse is an internal investigation and restructuring, which is *exactly* what they need. Right now, literally every single issue Naughty Dog has can be traced to one man, Neil Druckmann, and it may take the company getting close to being shut down before they are willing to put a stop to him.
Here's the first step: Get off the Last of Us crutch and never touch it again. Hire pedigreed writers (Not activists. If they have or have had any connection to DEI, show em the door.) who have a good history of making story driven games and make a new IP. There ya go. I just thought of that in 30 seconds. Not hard.
It's sad seeing a lot of legacy devs just become a shell of their former self. Bioware, Bungie, Naughty Dog, Bethesda. It's happening to a lot of once GOATS in the industry. This was a super well put together video and explains a lot about how after the core members leave, there's no vision anymore and everything falls apart. A lot of the older games like The Last of Us or Halo 3 almost felt like magic in a bottle. Maybe devs just can't hold onto the magic forever...
Everything goes away with time, and every society, culture, and industry has eras, it goes up and down. Its why I'm not mad about the degradation of famous film IPs like Star Wars anymore, nothing can exist for like 100 years and maintain quality, but maybe with enough time everything returns to glory. Either way, we gotta be grateful that good things were ever good to begin with, keeping with star wars as an example, maybe its hubris for me to ever have thought I deserve more than 6 mostly excellent films with 13 hours of total content in a well plotted story, I choose to be grateful nowadays. When it comes to media we gotta let things go.
Naughty Dog needs to reconvene & get Neil out of the company. Then they need to focus on New IP's and a possible TLOU spin off/re-imagining. Other than that, no more politics in games.
No it is not politics it is sexual diversity in games, you do like you want certain people to be excluded. politics has always been a part of entrainment maybe you are to young not to know this.
I just want another Uncharted game. There’s many directions they could go in for example: U5, reboot, remake of U1, Sully prequel, Sir Francis Drake prequel, etc. Here’s hoping Bluepoint or someone else from a Sony 😮 makes the next installment since Naughty Dog said they’re done with the franchise. Uncharted is too big of an IP just to let die. It carried the PS3 and part of the PS4 generation. Regrading the future of Naughty Dog themselves, while I’m not a hater, I am disappointed with the cancellation of Factions II, and the remaster games this gen. They should reopen the U2 or U3 multiplayer again or something lmao.
I've done a few videos in this style. Check the description for more. I just don't do them to often cause though it's a style I enjoy, I have to be motivated on the topic at hand to do it cause they take a lot more effort & time than my normal videos
Couple fact checks: 70% of Naughty Dog did not leave. They lost 14 of 20 non senior designers after Uncharted 4. 70% would be closer to 350 people Nothing wrong with remasters, they have always remastered their games to the next gen There is a lot of mystery around Naughty Dog right now but they have clarified saying they arent showing games 4 years before release anymore because it creates that crunch culture As for Factions 2. Cant argue its.a big misstep. But if they are being genuine that the scope of it would demand all their resources then arguably we have dodged a bullet in them turning into a Bungie or Rare Lastly its been 3 years since they swept the GOTY awards. I am not sure why we are acting like this is some GTA6 style wait for their next game. Not even the usual halfway point of AAA development. Id like some transparency on their next project but nothing to datr has me overly concerned they wont release anothrt masterpiece when they finish cooking as always
People blaming Naughty Dog instead of Jim Ryan for this mess is hilarious. It's clear the multiplayer was supposed to be more like The Division from leaks years ago But then Jim Ryan wanted it to be live service. Bungie came in and said it wasn't a good live service game. Naughty Dog tried to transition it to a battle royale. Naughty Dog is owned by Sony. People really think its Naughty Dog's decision to remaster all these games and make a live service multiplayer game? C'mon. That is obviously Playstations decision. Jim Ryan tried to milk Naughty Dog instead of just letting them deliver other games.
How you blaming Big Jimmy Jim even for Naughty Dogs incompetence of management? Why isnt any other studio having problems? Insomniac Games been blessing us with almost annual content since 2018 Santa Monica just dropped and outstanding FREE dlc. GG dropped the Burning Shores dlc last year. All them big ones doing fine but Naught Dog. It has nothing to do with Jim but only with Naught Dog themselves. Sony doesnt intervene much into their studios. Thats industry wide known. Naughty Dog is mismanged and management happens within the studios - evidently how other stuidos operate.
@KingDonWahed Because Big Jimmy Jim as you called him, is the reason for the multiplayer fell apart. This is widely known. Jim wanted to turn factions into a live service game. Naughty Dog has no experience making those kinds of games. So, to say that Playstation doesn't intervene with their studios is a false statement. In regards to pricing, the Uncharted upgrade and TLOU2 upgrade are $10, just like Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding were. Its only been 3 and a half years since their last game came out. For comparison, there were 5 years between the horizon games and 4 and a half years between the new God of War games. Insomniac has a bunch of different internal teams so they can put out more games. I'm sure the team working on Factions 2 will not be working on Naughty Dog's next game. Making the development process faster.
I think uncharted 4 was the last best game for Naughty dog. Now that there’s a major change in this company, I sadly and personally don’t think they will ever be the same.
Naughty dogs last official game was the last of us part 2 that won game of the year. Sony is greedy and wants them to push out remakes of part 1 & 2 again.They wanted to originally make Factions 2 like the last one from the leaks we’ve gotten of factions 2 early development & sony tells them no make it live service appealing. I don’t blame the guys that have to create magic from whatever they get thrown at them. It’s Sonys fault in my opinion. Just because some suckas didn’t like the last game or had issues with story choices (Daddy Joel) feel like they’re some what falling off is crazy. They’re as good as there last game & that last game broke records at the time for most awarded video game. It’s sad to see the multiplayer go to shit cause i’m sure those developers were crushed once greedy sony slammed the cancel hammer on them. This is all sony’s fault in my opinion
Naughty dog are still working on two brand new single player games at least. So it’s not as bad as ppl online make it seem like or these media outlets for clicks
Jiim Ryan made ND do a GaaS instead of Factions 2 which was going to be on the disc like the first game. This is great news since ND can finally get some single player games out the gate, specifically that Sci-Fi game they have been working on since 20218 or 2019. There are tons of MP games that already exist and people on PS play those third party MP games more than Sony's first party MP games. Let Sony focus on what they do best. This is a win for them, gamers, gaming and us as customers. No more GaaS.
Nicely summed up all the things I’ve been thinking about Naughty Dog for quite some time. And I’m concerned that rumored Uncharted 5 may actually be better because it is not made by today’s Naughty Dog. Guess we’ll see soon enough
Apparently it was creative disagreement that pushed Amy Hennig out. I have this feeling that Last of Us Part 2 story of revenge was inspired by Uncharted 4 original revenge plot. I have this hunch in Amy Hennigs version, Sam kills Sully very early in the game and very brutally. Nathan then decided to hunt him down. Nathan probably dies at the end of Uncharted 4 hence A Thief’s End… I kinda wish we had Amy’s version of Uncharted 4 and then Amy’s version of TLOU2.
Great video, this makes me reminisce about the PS2 era and how good Sony was at that time. I stopped liking Sony with the PS3, I immediately saw how stingy they were when they took away features like backwards compatibility and so on. I’m so glad that I didn’t get immersed into uncharted, tlou and Spider-Man only to see this stuff happen. Hopefully Sony can rebound from this mess they’re in and return to their roots. The PS4 era has made them lazy, now they’re trying to jump in the GAAS pool and it’s severely overcrowded.
This one is really weird to me because the last of us remake is definetly not lazy it was just priced really bad who's to blame sony or ND dont know... And they have been working on their crunch and culture this is why we didnt get a release date for TLOU 2 for agees and they stated that in interviews they are constantly trying to get better but thats takes a lot of work when these developers care soo much about what they do some people want to stay for ages and polish as much as they can and others dont its about finding the balance everything is written in that kotaku article but people only read the headline and not the whole thing due to the time it came out. I believe people's perception of ND as of late is based off how they recieved TLOU2.
So I was already cooking this up in the lab before all the factions 2 news lol. Timing is everything I guess huh? 😅
nah bruh why use demise from within lmfaoooooooo just use a fall from grace its way funnier
The universe works in mysterious ways😂
My question is how come Sony hasn’t done anything about ND job anatomy.
Just to read how much the developers celebrated and enjoyed playing Factions 2 after it got cancelled was a punch to the gut.
@Awoken777it’s really not but go off. A goty can’t be a distant memory maybe for you
Sony bought bluepoint for remasters and remakes not knowing they already had Naughty Dog 😂
That’s insane to say 😭😂
Have some respect sir 😂
NAAH, that's wild LMAOOOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s not why they bought Bluepoint. They are literally making an original game now because of Sony.
You people sound so woke.
Amy Hennig was giving us the good stuff and the industry pushed her aside for Neil Druckmann.
so true.
Ahhh yes. Neil Druckmann. The type of man that would take an extra day off during the week to help his wife’s boyfriend move in.
lmaooooooo bro
Yall hate Neil for no reason
@@akkibajaj705Drove out Amy henning who wrote Uncharted and the legendary Soul Reaver franchise , Ruining a beloved character like Joel and killing him in the worst way possible , Letting Anita Sarkeesium be involved in the development of many projects “ She is a toxic feminists who hate men “ ,, Yeah man we hate nail Cuckman for no reason .
neil druckman is gay
@@akkibajaj705 Plenty of reasons
The fall of naughty fog started with the leave of Amy Henigg
No idiot, Uncharted 3 was underwhelming, Uncharted 4 was written by Druckmann and was way better, her ideas for 4 were scrapped because they were garbage, Amy Henning had no part in TLOU 1 , Druckmann wrote it too. And Henning shipped not one game anyone remembers after she left.
you forgot:
- abuse reports of men harassing other men sexually and HR ignoring it
- false marketing on TLOU2 making it look like Joel is in the game more than he ended up being
- calling a resolution patch a "remaster" for the PS4 uncharted games
- leaving out the multiplayer portions out of TLOU/U4 with the rereleases
- conflict with Bend on their development of Days Gone because ND felt they should have the only zombie game
- conflict with Visual Arts team where ND stopped them from making the Uncharted remake they wanted
- the Naughty Dog Agenda
All happening over Neil Cuckman taking over
It's sad when the biggest news from this studio nowadays are cash grab remasters, Mid HBO tv show updates and overpriced merch for outbreak day. They always try to cover bad news with "we are working on SP games guys". We'll be lucky if we get a game in 2027...
Th3y have a history of releasing big games at th3 3nd of a generation.
Respect them and their kitchen of cooking
@InnerRise lol.. And sir you are apart of the problem, stay delusional..
You mean a remaster that actually adds new content for only a $10 upgrade and a tv show that did really well
Meanwhile Insomniac are on their 4th game this generation
@@victor_734 It's not enough, even being the leader in console sales, Sony's still in the red. Your beloved single player exclusives aren't even enough. Why do you think Sony's playing it safe with all these sequels, remakes and remaster. Y'all been playing the same ip's for almost decade now. Same 3rd person, qte bs. Square took a loss with ff16, over 150mil ps owners but just lil over 3mil bought the game. Why do u think Square is done with exclusivity? The Box is about to take over, haven't even got started yet..
I'm glad you've decided to take the title for biggest Naughty Dog TH-camr Jeremy. Couldn't be me 😉
In all seriousness, great video man! Loving the effort put into the scripts and footage.
😂😂 I will never be a naughty dog youtuber like you were my netherlands brotha. Hope everything is going good on your end sir
@@TheGamer2323 Dang 😂
Naughty dog has a Neil Druckmann problem. It's been downhill ever since he took over.
I'm still sad he got rid of donut drake 😔
Winnin goty is downhill? Yall are delusional lmao
Neil has nothing to do with Ryan’s GaaS pursuit 😅
@@sparks3289 ppl hate boner for neil druckmann is so weird
Without Neil I reckon they would've drove head first into being a GaaS studio, he's one of the only old guard left there.
Last of us is genuinely one of the best and worst things to happen to naughty dog
which is crazy lol
lets not forget that marketing lie with joel in the last of us 2. total disrespect
TLOU 1 is the best thing to happen to ND.
TLOU 2 is the worst thing to happen to ND.
I forgot that Sam was supposed to be a villain. That sure would’ve been interesting to see
Already happened he's in uncharted 2 and his name is Harry Flynn
it literally would fix the issue with uncharted 4. it needed to give some more emotion in the story part but it ended flatly
Bro its crazy when you show those flash backs of you. Ive been subscribed for years and you don't realize how much you grew up on TH-cam until you see those flash backs. Its crazy.
Time flies my brotha from anotha motha...
After the agenda in the last of us 2 I'm done with this company
Druckman wants to work in crumbling Hollywood and Naughty Dog lost too many competent employees. Game over.
I'm sure if they kept Amy's script for Uncharted 4, they would have had a much bigger role for my boi Hector Alcazar. Something tells me he wasn't supposed to be scrapped. "Samuel, are you ready to seek your fortune?"
In before this video pops off. Such a well made documentary and after watching your content for about a decade you are the perfect person to make this type of video.
Company went downhill after Bruce Straley and Amy Henning left (or allegedly were forced out by Neil Druckmann in a power play) if Last of Us 2 was so successful we would've had a DLC of Neils beloved Abby by now.
if 80% of your former devs left due to horrible treatment and power tripping, its no longer naughty dog. Its a skin walker.
In my opinion, Naughty Dog became straight trash when Amy left, Anita's feminist influence was really starting to show with Uncharted 4 and it just got worse after that. Companies will watch their product burn to the ground just for an ESG score.
Precisely.
What was in Uncharted 4.
It literally didn’t start with uncharted 4 people see one female capable of putting in work and they think it’s woke lol it started with the last of us part 2
@@pluntchgunster6156Nadine beating up Nathan Drake twice
The Last of Us and Uncharted 4 are better than the Uncharted trilogy though.
I honestly want Naughty Dog to get Amy Hennig back. Druckmann thinks he's the reason Naughty Dog is big. He's also the reason she left.
This is a VERY well done video!
Wassup my brotha! Hope everything is good on your end
2:10 what is that tune??? Sounds so chilll!!!!!! Please tell me the tunes used in this video. I can vibe to these 😢😮
Hear me out... It's Neil Cuckman that's been drowning Naughty Dog to the ground when it comes to creative standpoint but ever since he took the reigns as Creative Director speaks for itself...
Jeez grow up
@@victor_734he right tho, ND is straight garbagio
@@victor_734I'm not complaining brotha, just stating facts...
@@VenomHernandez Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us Part 2 are ND’s best games
@@victor_734 Like hell they are. Uncharted 4 is the weakest of the franchise and TLOU 2 was just plain bad. I hope you're just trolling.
GREAT job on this video Jeremy. Great editing, transitions, pacing, scripting, audio balance. Fantastic stuff
thanks for your feedback my good sir :)
I really like how you did this video. Serious but not too serious. Great work as always.
Appreciate ya 👊🏾
My boi BrokenGamezHD had his heart broken 💔
RIP “goin straight to dat multiplayer”
More like BrokenHeartHD lol
All they needed to do was do the same as factions 1 and just give people a normal multiplayer mode why was that so hard 😅
The MP had so much potential with Part IIs gsmeplay
My guess is they just wanted to do more than just a copy of factions with new gameplay
@@Pointman11111honestly they could give us this and I’d be just fine
Pretty sure it's because they wanted to expand it beyond what it was in 2013. It's not like devs never want to be ambitious.
Because the gaming industry is full of Mr.Krabs in a suit. Anything that can be monetized MUST be monetized lol
@@kevinkijowski5980 That ambition is what ended up biting them in the ass though.
That Tyrese clip had like me dying 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Great vid - we need more mini docs from you! 💯
Loved this typa video and the commentary my boy keep it up🔥🔥
Naughty dogs inconsistent narrative of last of us 2 was the turning point for me. Added with cash grab method for the last of us franchise
It’s almost like all those pointless awards tlous2 won were for biggest disappointment of that year…..
NaughtyDog’s reputation has been tarnished regardless.
2016 election broke this company just like Hollywood. This is a sad demise for a company that made many of my favorite games of all time. You can’t say these facts waste your time when it’s clear when their downslide began.
I feel like Amy hennig leaving did hurt the company, and they were coasting off her work.
Uncharted really did boost Naught Dog staus wise which would lay the groundwork for TLOU. She was also a veteran in the industry so that helped too.
Naughty Dog’s legacy ended with Uncharted 4. Druckmann has ruined that company
I started hating them after they killed Joel. Never gonna play their games.
Once Shawn Layden left Playstation, every studio has gone stagnant. The showmanship left with Layden. Naughty Dog went downhill when Neil migrated to Movies, and said forget those games
What movies ? WTF are you talking about?
@@badtothebone93he doesn't know what he's on about
He produced the Uncharted Film (mediocre trash) and has been dedicating his time more so to The Last Of Us TV show as showrunner/writer. In simple terms, he went to Hollywoo.
@@theprowler18 he did not produce the Uncharted movie LMAO,and the show was directed by Craig mazin not sure what you're talking about
If I speak...
Bad playstation news drop weekly brother you got no choice but to speak
Naughty Dog went woke. Now they're going broke.
Can we all finally admit something strange is happening at Sony?
Sony or Naughty Dog? You can't lump all the developers into one bag.
@@cun7usat Sony. It's not just ND. It's the whole company
@@sleasy01 what about it?
@@cun7us where you want to start? The firings and layoffs or the 8 cancelled games?
@@sleasy01 firings and layoffs? What are you, a human resources manager or something? What concern is it of yours if Sony lays off staff? That's the nature of business. It doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever.
Which 8 cancelled games?
everyone saw this coming from a mile away lmao. it seems like every time we hear of anything from naughty dog nowadays, it's always something negative
A good retrospective video on the state of the company over the years
Uncharted 4 was the last naughty dog game I played. Ever since then they've never been the same
Uncharted lost legacy > uncharted 4 & that wasn't even directed by niel druckman
Uncharted 4 was the worse out of the uncharted series it was more last of us like than uncharted
No intro theme, he just diving straight into it?!! Oh yeah this vid about to be a banger!!
It's all Neil's fault.
Boohhoo let’s blame it all on one man
@@victor_734but Neil druckman is apart of the problem.
@@victor_734One man or the president of rapidly deteriorating studio?
🤣🤣
@@victor_734 what are you gonna do about it?
I think Neil is the common denominator in all this mess 😂
He is also the common denominator in their most successful period of all time
@@voidler yea but there were other people there for their most successful time as well and once they started dipping it all went downhill.
@@mightynemesis94 it hasn't gone downhill though. If they release a bad game we can talk
@@voidler last of us 2 was bad for their standards
@@mightynemesis94 no it won GOTY everywhere, majority of people loved it
Just wanted to write that you summed up the situation rather well for the chaotic mess that is Naughty Dog. Between the production hell of the last two titles, the damaging PR interviews with Druckmann and Gross admitting via Indiewire the mess the script was in and how they changed it constantly on the fly, it is clear the plot has been lost on the whole company with retention numbers through the roof and having to rely on contractors via the VFX industry to get it done (what happened during TLOU 2 production). Honestly, with so many key figures gone including the founder Evan Wells, it's safe to say they have gone the way of Bioware in becoming a husk of their former selves. It sucks but it's inevitable. PS: Neil Druckmann deserves the criticism and getting pimp slap for wasting the talented actor Jeffery Wright (fantastic recently in American Fiction) for two scenes...yes only two scenes.
Appreciate you and thanks for your insight
Evan Wells wasn't the founder. He was made co President in 2005 and full President in 2017. He retired after 30 years in the industry, it's not like he left somewhere else (at least nothing like that has been announced).
Like Druckmann he was promoted to President from within. Not sure why people are against them promoting successful Devs from within like they always have
Love seeing you trying these different style of videos. Keep up the good work, my brother.
I wasn't aware of that much turnover.
So the studio is not the same studio. It explains a lot
Funny enough Abbys face model was apart of that 70% depature as well mentioned halfway into the video
This is a good example that anything can happen to something great. Everything goes through a dark stage. What goes down eventually has to go up
The saying is “what goes up eventually comes down.” Throw something in the air and gravity will bring it back down. Drop something on the ground and it might bounce back up, but it might also just hit the ground and stay there.
@@ValidEarYT Very true as well. If nothing gets addressed the situation can also get far worse.
Ummm. No. Say that to blockbuster and all the companies Amazon killed. They never came back up
@@sleasy01 Did you read my reply above, I understand that it can get worse as well.
"has to go back up"? Or it can *crash and burn* .
Naughty Dog fell off 😭
Maybe Neil Druckmann gotta go, they gotta get someone new in there. I feel like maybe he's to blame for all this, lol
Wouldn’t make sense. Jim Ryan & Herman Hulst run PS not Neil.
Neil has made naughty dog so bad @@sparks3289
great video, im glad some have finally seen the light that i have seen 10 years ago. ND biggest problem was when they publicly said theyre going to stop making fun games. serious/drama games take a very long time to make and as we all can see, get tiring.
Well done I'm so proud of you. You could consider me one of your OG subscribers. I subscribe to you less than 100 subscribers at the time 11- 13 year ago. You used to do PSN updates on PS3, you used to be nervous talking in front of the camera. For over the years you have grown into a stronger person an overcome any hurdles that is coming at you. Keep doing your thing don't let any Nay Sayers say any better and keep pushing yourself to the limit and I will believe that you keep growing. Thank you for all your hard work.
ayeeeee I appreciate that my man ♥ Thanks for the wholesome message and happy holidays my brotha
Damn bro you killed it with this vid! SHEEEEEEEEESH!
wassup brotha jedi!
You put alot of work in this video. Respect my brotha ✊🏾
My guy, your quality is officially topping RobinGaming now. TheRobin2323
That man quit gaming a long time ago, just doing reaction stuff now
"The last of us 3" *everybody hops back on P*
I disagree with your last point brotha. I don't think Naughty Dog tryna pick up the pieces of what they once were. They are trying to successfully complete an identity shift from what they once were. Neil is not interested in bringing back what made Naughty Dog the great studio that bought them the fame and fortune.
Neil is not interested in anything but himself and his opinion lol
When key game makers start leaving an outstanding studio, that's always the sign. I give Rockstar the credit they never break up the band
I'm pretty sure R* has lost valuable people throughout. The thing is, as a studio, they never compromise what they believe in. They also uphold their standard of quality.
Workplace wise is another story tho.
Urm. Dan Houser, Lazlow Jones and Lezlie Benzies all dipped and those were the most integral members of Rockstar Games...
He doesn't know.
Great video my guy i feel you.
Hardcore single player gang was going woooo on Twitter. While other folks were sad.
I'm mainly single player myself but even I feel bad for folks who were looking forward to it.
After watching this entire video, I can't help but worry about the state of Naughty Dog. Yeah they blessed us with some many great games, but it all came at a cost. And now they're giving us remasters and remakes that we don't need(but low-key though, I'll gladly take a Jak & Daxter remake)and cancelled a game that we all been looking forward to. Like what's going to happen next for Naughty Dog?
Well unlike EA or Microsoft, thankfully, Sony doesn't have a habit of killing studios. Even the team behind Days Gone, which Sony has been treating with nothing but overt contempt despite raking in exponential profits, gets to stay alive but be shuffled off to do work for other studios.
So what you can expect to see if things get worse is an internal investigation and restructuring, which is *exactly* what they need. Right now, literally every single issue Naughty Dog has can be traced to one man, Neil Druckmann, and it may take the company getting close to being shut down before they are willing to put a stop to him.
Here's the first step: Get off the Last of Us crutch and never touch it again. Hire pedigreed writers (Not activists. If they have or have had any connection to DEI, show em the door.) who have a good history of making story driven games and make a new IP.
There ya go. I just thought of that in 30 seconds.
Not hard.
It's sad seeing a lot of legacy devs just become a shell of their former self. Bioware, Bungie, Naughty Dog, Bethesda. It's happening to a lot of once GOATS in the industry.
This was a super well put together video and explains a lot about how after the core members leave, there's no vision anymore and everything falls apart. A lot of the older games like The Last of Us or Halo 3 almost felt like magic in a bottle. Maybe devs just can't hold onto the magic forever...
Everything goes away with time, and every society, culture, and industry has eras, it goes up and down. Its why I'm not mad about the degradation of famous film IPs like Star Wars anymore, nothing can exist for like 100 years and maintain quality, but maybe with enough time everything returns to glory.
Either way, we gotta be grateful that good things were ever good to begin with, keeping with star wars as an example, maybe its hubris for me to ever have thought I deserve more than 6 mostly excellent films with 13 hours of total content in a well plotted story, I choose to be grateful nowadays. When it comes to media we gotta let things go.
Naughty Dog was better when they were making Crash Bandicoot.
Naughty Dog needs to reconvene & get Neil out of the company. Then they need to focus on New IP's and a possible TLOU spin off/re-imagining. Other than that, no more politics in games.
No it is not politics it is sexual diversity in games, you do like you want certain people to be excluded.
politics has always been a part of entrainment maybe you are to young not to know this.
Fantastic video, my friend! Love this style of video!
I just want another Uncharted game. There’s many directions they could go in for example:
U5, reboot, remake of U1, Sully prequel, Sir Francis Drake prequel, etc. Here’s hoping Bluepoint or someone else from a Sony 😮 makes the next installment since Naughty Dog said they’re done with the franchise. Uncharted is too big of an IP just to let die. It carried the PS3 and part of the PS4 generation.
Regrading the future of Naughty Dog themselves, while I’m not a hater, I am disappointed with the cancellation of Factions II, and the remaster games this gen. They should reopen the U2 or U3 multiplayer again or something lmao.
I love the change in formula for this video. You should do other studios from playstation
I've done a few videos in this style. Check the description for more. I just don't do them to often cause though it's a style I enjoy, I have to be motivated on the topic at hand to do it cause they take a lot more effort & time than my normal videos
Couple fact checks:
70% of Naughty Dog did not leave. They lost 14 of 20 non senior designers after Uncharted 4.
70% would be closer to 350 people
Nothing wrong with remasters, they have always remastered their games to the next gen
There is a lot of mystery around Naughty Dog right now but they have clarified saying they arent showing games 4 years before release anymore because it creates that crunch culture
As for Factions 2. Cant argue its.a big misstep. But if they are being genuine that the scope of it would demand all their resources then arguably we have dodged a bullet in them turning into a Bungie or Rare
Lastly its been 3 years since they swept the GOTY awards. I am not sure why we are acting like this is some GTA6 style wait for their next game. Not even the usual halfway point of AAA development.
Id like some transparency on their next project but nothing to datr has me overly concerned they wont release anothrt masterpiece when they finish cooking as always
People blaming Naughty Dog instead of Jim Ryan for this mess is hilarious. It's clear the multiplayer was supposed to be more like The Division from leaks years ago But then Jim Ryan wanted it to be live service. Bungie came in and said it wasn't a good live service game. Naughty Dog tried to transition it to a battle royale.
Naughty Dog is owned by Sony. People really think its Naughty Dog's decision to remaster all these games and make a live service multiplayer game? C'mon. That is obviously Playstations decision. Jim Ryan tried to milk Naughty Dog instead of just letting them deliver other games.
No rational comments allowed
@@howardthecluck1156 lmao
How you blaming Big Jimmy Jim even for Naughty Dogs incompetence of management? Why isnt any other studio having problems?
Insomniac Games been blessing us with almost annual content since 2018
Santa Monica just dropped and outstanding FREE dlc.
GG dropped the Burning Shores dlc last year.
All them big ones doing fine but Naught Dog.
It has nothing to do with Jim but only with Naught Dog themselves.
Sony doesnt intervene much into their studios. Thats industry wide known.
Naughty Dog is mismanged and management happens within the studios - evidently how other stuidos operate.
@@KingDonWahed i mean they did release part 1 remake, and a $10 upgrade for tlou 2 dlc and remake coming next month
@KingDonWahed Because Big Jimmy Jim as you called him, is the reason for the multiplayer fell apart. This is widely known. Jim wanted to turn factions into a live service game. Naughty Dog has no experience making those kinds of games. So, to say that Playstation doesn't intervene with their studios is a false statement.
In regards to pricing, the Uncharted upgrade and TLOU2 upgrade are $10, just like Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding were. Its only been 3 and a half years since their last game came out. For comparison, there were 5 years between the horizon games and 4 and a half years between the new God of War games. Insomniac has a bunch of different internal teams so they can put out more games. I'm sure the team working on Factions 2 will not be working on Naughty Dog's next game. Making the development process faster.
I'm a bit late to the party, but this is a really well made video! Couldn't have explained it better.
I think uncharted 4 was the last best game for Naughty dog. Now that there’s a major change in this company, I sadly and personally don’t think they will ever be the same.
i'd argue lost legacy
That’s crazy, ppl hanging all their hopes on concept art 😂 made this man do a mini documentary.
That's what I'm thinking lol People need some h**s 😂
Great video brother, I think you have the talent for retrospective video game vids. Keep up the great work man!
Oh shit. Damn love the quality of the editing
Naughty dogs last official game was the last of us part 2 that won game of the year. Sony is greedy and wants them to push out remakes of part 1 & 2 again.They wanted to originally make Factions 2 like the last one from the leaks we’ve gotten of factions 2 early development & sony tells them no make it live service appealing. I don’t blame the guys that have to create magic from whatever they get thrown at them. It’s Sonys fault in my opinion. Just because some suckas didn’t like the last game or had issues with story choices (Daddy Joel) feel like they’re some what falling off is crazy. They’re as good as there last game & that last game broke records at the time for most awarded video game. It’s sad to see the multiplayer go to shit cause i’m sure those developers were crushed once greedy sony slammed the cancel hammer on them. This is all sony’s fault in my opinion
True. Tlou2 was great. I just hate their communication and disregard for their fans time
TLOU2 was great idk what’s wrong it’s only been 3 years & trashing GaaS is the best decision for them 🤷🏾♂️
all the talent already left, simple as
Naughty dog are still working on two brand new single player games at least. So it’s not as bad as ppl online make it seem like or these media outlets for clicks
They called me a madman when I said “ND a fall from grace is coming”!!!
Jiim Ryan made ND do a GaaS instead of Factions 2 which was going to be on the disc like the first game. This is great news since ND can finally get some single player games out the gate, specifically that Sci-Fi game they have been working on since 20218 or 2019. There are tons of MP games that already exist and people on PS play those third party MP games more than Sony's first party MP games. Let Sony focus on what they do best. This is a win for them, gamers, gaming and us as customers. No more GaaS.
Nicely summed up all the things I’ve been thinking about Naughty Dog for quite some time. And I’m concerned that rumored Uncharted 5 may actually be better because it is not made by today’s Naughty Dog. Guess we’ll see soon enough
Naughty Dog's downfall began with that divisive TLOU 2's story. TLOU 2 ruined what could've been a legendary franchise.
It's still legendary your just being a Karen
@@chriscollins3225Game didn’t need a sequel. At least not with the same characters
@@wisdomincoming12 your opinion
My opinion the storyline is BETTER in the sequel than the original game
Amy uncharted 4 version also said u wouldn’t shoot a gun in the first 10 chapters too
The fact that we really never going to play Factions 2 is crazy to me. It’s starting to sink in lol
Tbh, it must have been good too if bungie thought it needed more work aka more live service.
Ponies, it’s over.
Not even close lmao. Xbox is selling so bad that they are thinking of becoming the new Sega lol. Edit: They are literally down 52% in Europe lol.
@@Final_DawnBlind loyalty not gonna help the consumers in the long run lil bro
As soon as a naughty dog come out with new ip people gonna be praising them.
Not this gen buddy, but u stay delusional..
RIP you will be missed Naughty
Good video brotha 👌🏾
Until Neil Druckmann loses his job, I will be boycotting everything Naughty Dog
No question that Insomniac is now the flagship Sony studio.
Been waiting for this one. 🍿
Ay... *you predicted it.*
Naughty Dog literally making remaster of remaster to get more money. TLOU 3 might be coming out too😂
Reason i bought ps4: last of us remastered
Reason i sold my ps4: last of us part II
Apparently it was creative disagreement that pushed Amy Hennig out.
I have this feeling that Last of Us Part 2 story of revenge was inspired by Uncharted 4 original revenge plot.
I have this hunch in Amy Hennigs version, Sam kills Sully very early in the game and very brutally. Nathan then decided to hunt him down. Nathan probably dies at the end of Uncharted 4 hence A Thief’s End…
I kinda wish we had Amy’s version of Uncharted 4 and then Amy’s version of TLOU2.
Naughty was already dead the moment they released tlou part 1 remastered
Love the quality of the vids recently brotha
Since neil drunkman took the lead ND has been going downhill. They made more remakes and remasters since he joined than new games. Hes need to go
Great video, this makes me reminisce about the PS2 era and how good Sony was at that time. I stopped liking Sony with the PS3, I immediately saw how stingy they were when they took away features like backwards compatibility and so on. I’m so glad that I didn’t get immersed into uncharted, tlou and Spider-Man only to see this stuff happen. Hopefully Sony can rebound from this mess they’re in and return to their roots. The PS4 era has made them lazy, now they’re trying to jump in the GAAS pool and it’s severely overcrowded.
This one is really weird to me because the last of us remake is definetly not lazy it was just priced really bad who's to blame sony or ND dont know...
And they have been working on their crunch and culture this is why we didnt get a release date for TLOU 2 for agees and they stated that in interviews they are constantly trying to get better but thats takes a lot of work when these developers care soo much about what they do some people want to stay for ages and polish as much as they can and others dont its about finding the balance everything is written in that kotaku article but people only read the headline and not the whole thing due to the time it came out.
I believe people's perception of ND as of late is based off how they recieved TLOU2.