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- In this video I answer a bunch of viewer questions about everything, private jet related. I talk a little bit about my backround, training, earnings, my deal with NELK BOYS / HAPPY DAD, and much much more.
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Hey man, you helped push me to make the decision to pursue my commercial license. I’m 27 and stopped flying after my private because I felt like you, didn’t like the idea of commercial aviation. Not to be rude or judgmental but I felt like I didn’t fit in aviation. A lot of straight laced types with their clean shaves. It’s cool to see someone who doesn’t come off so preppy. And to see you can make a career in a space where it’s a bit more free spirited.
THIS IS WHY I MAKE VIDEOS! Congratulations! Good luck on your journey
You have to understand that Gear Down is an anomaly in the business aviation community. He is a unique case and a combination of businessman and pilot. If you showed up to 95% of jobs looking like him, you would be cast aside. In his case, he has found a niche, no doubt capitalizing on music and entertainment industry friends. It IS all about networking and this is his turf. Unless you have an established network in a niche market, you better be the clean-cut, straight-laced type you disdain.
In my career, I did the major airline gig, didn't like it, moved into corporate, didn't like the rigidity of it and eventually ended up with a family flying them and hope it sees me to the end of my career. They treat you like a person and a family member, much like two tours I did with a rock band. But the other 95% is clean-cut, uniform-wearing conforming pilots who look like what the average business jet client expects to see. Fortunately, there is a happy place in aviation for every personality and no two jobs in your career progression will be the same. You will be doing yourself a great favor if you always do your best, move along rather than being a whiner and enjoy every step of your journey whether it is good or bad.
Pilots and owners do tend to be brand loyal. For Americans, that is Gulfstream, for Canadians, Bombardier and for pilots, Dassault. :).
How are things now?
Same here. Turning 28 soon. It's a huge investment to dive back into it again, though.
Same here - at 46 :D (but already long time private Pilot)
My Dad always told me. The more you expose yourself to opportunities, the more opportunities will present themselves
You’re day was very very correct!!! Thanks for watching
Outstanding Q&A for pilots. As I let you know, last week I'm an A&P and retired now. Retired life is not as good as it's let on to believe. Anyway, I tell people, "The Aviation Industry is one of the largest industries in the world but the smallest Communities". There are people in this industry that I've known for 30-plus years, and I have worked for and have worked for me. One reason you dont burn bridges. For those out there that watch your videos for your knowledge, they should know that you are 100% correct, Networking is very helpful in the Aviation Industry if you are new to it or have been in it. Again, outstanding video.
Thanks for your videos, as I look forward to them.
Thanks so much for the great comment! I agree on ALL points!!! Which is why I’m unretired again lol
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“Largest industry, smallest community” is spot on… I’m lawyer in the industry and I see this every day.
“Largest industry, smallest community” is spot on… I’m lawyer in the industry and I see this every day.
You’re a likable guy and very smart so that’s why you’re so successful. I’m 66 now and to me even though I don’t have near what you have I feel I’m very successful and pay it forward by volunteering full time as a Veterans Service Officer helping disabled Veterans get the benefits they deserve. Success is in the eyes of the beholder so even though I have chronic pain and PTSD issues because of the pain I live with I feel as successful as you. Keep up the great work of informing the next generation of pilots behind you. You are truly a good person to me by watching your videos. So after being in the service and then being a Police Officer I enjoy what I do by volunteering. I love aviation but only got about 10 hours at about 25 years old and then couldn’t afford it anymore while trying to grow a family. Again thank you for what you do for the up and coming behind you. Ken
Thanks, I appreciate that so much, big ups to you for all youve done and thanks for your service.
As a flight student, please make sure you can handle a fast-paced training program because it is intense, and learning to fly looks easier than it actually is. There will be concepts that you may not understand, and you might have to repeat lessons again, and that's ok because it is so worth it when you get your wings.
You hit the nail on the head!
do you need good eye sight? I wear glasses.
@@assassin7250 I wear glasses, too, but an AME will do several eye test.
Found you thru some of Owens videos. I like your fresh take on aviation. I really appreciate how you literally respond to every comment. That shows what kind of character you have!!!
Cheers man! Glad u found the channel!
A good friend of mine that's been flying for United for about 20 years now said the exact same thing about networking. This is great advice, thanks so much for doing this. That resort looks amazing, happy flying!
Thanks for watching!!! Cheers!
I am an A&P in training right now in Highschool in Phoenix, AZ and after some research about different pilot careers and after the NBAA spoke to our A&P class I knew that I wanted to pursue business aviation. This video answered a lot of my questions so thank you for taking your time to make it. I got a scholarship from my local EAA chapter to go to Oshkosh from the 18th to the 26th of July attending the EAA Air Academy camp and I hope to meet you there.
Great Channel! I love to watch people who just know their shit! And who don't use it to talk down to people. Your passion is palpable and what every "subject matter expert" regardless of subject should aspire to. Cheers!
Wow thanks for the compliment man!
Thanks this video is really great! I want to get into corporate flying soon as I'm still very young and just got my CPL and will have to wait quite some time to get my ATP. After I get my CFI and do that for a year or two, I want to try and transition over to corporate if possible and have some fun in that world and maybe stay there full time instead of going to the airlines!
I think social media is a great way for up and coming pilots to network! Looking forward to that shop tour of your cars!!
Definitely!!
Your exactly right. You have to network and market yourself!!! You'd be surprised how far knowing and meeting new people can take you. You'll find that it's such a small world. Probably the best advice you could give anyone!!! Great channel. I enjoy watching you. You proved with this video nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. You did it right and you deserve the success.
Happy Birthday bud! Thanks for doing this and being transparent. It means a lot and your success is a big motivation for me. I'd work with you any day. Be safe, take care. See you on the next one
I appreciate that! Thanks for supporting the channel!! 🍻
Hey man! just recently found your channel and love the content. Im currently 31 and about to take me knowledge test for my private and then start my flying. Your content is both inspirational and has helped in my motivation as well to knuckle down and put in the work. I have been on the commercial vibe for a while but never knew what cooperate flying had to offer. You are the man and look out for me in your comment section Happy birthday bro
Welcome aboard! Best of luck with your training. You made the right move hitting the written before starting.
@@gear_down Thanks man! Yeah all of my pilot buddies suggested completing the written first. Looking forward to your new videos
Loved this video, and honestly all of your videos. I am a student pilot in a part 141 school, currently working on instrument as we speak and excited for commercial. Your videos are so helpful and beneficial, thank you!! I continuously look forward to your videos, keep it up brother!!!
Awesome man!!! Good luck on those rating and keep up the great work
Got my A&P at 22 after dropping out of college. Worked at a major, and got my IA. Saved a third of my income every year, bought a Mooney J at 27 for 165k. Flew it for 1500 hours, and did a little instructing in it. Got my multi. and got my ATP at 29. Got hired onto the same major with a large bonus. Finished my bachelors collected my bonus after a couple years, then bounced over to UPS because Louisville is my hometown. Flying internationals now making more than I ever thought I would. That income let me build some aviation related and unrelated businesses.
There are a million paths to those 1500 hours. I paid for every penny of my training and expenses, all and all around 300k to my ATP including the plane. While starting a family, and trying to be an attentive husband. Aviation is only easy if you're already a millionaire.
You’re awesome. You are someone I look up to and not just because I want to start my flight training. Who you are as a person is inspiring. I don’t have any male figures to look up to in my life so thank you for putting yourself out here on TH-cam. Happy birthday and cheers to 26k!
Dude, you you nailed the Q&A. All great advice and super inspirational. Love how you put your nose to the grindstone and carved out your own unique path. Well done, my man.
Dude! That’s Awesome!! My son and I started at FunOutside last year as well. We now own a Cessna 150 which he is getting his PPL on, and a Cherokee 140, which I am getting my Instrument and Commercial Ratings on….. Looking forward to getting to your level soon!!
Keep up the Great Work! 🛩️
Awesome man! Keep it up! See u up here soon!
Great insight into the industry - real and compelling. Thanks so much for sharing . Belated Happy Birthday ! Hello from London, UK : - )
Thanks for watching! Cheers man!
Thanks for a little insight to the question I asked. Keep the videos coming. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
No problem 👍 cheers man!
Thanks for sharing your story. It’s always interesting to hear how people got to where they are. Love the video content you post.
Thank you so much. Shoutout to YOU for supporting the channel!!!
Forgot to mention my dad's j -3 cub had what was called heel brakes but I can't find anyone with a. J-3 giving instructions in it lol it was my dream as a boy to be a corporate pilot my dad was for a while I'm just interested now on my light sport there's an A. T. P at Riverside municipal airport it's a great school that's great advice
I’m glad you found it helpful!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing! I never had a pilot license but at 60 have loved aviation for my entire life. I enjoy hearing your stories!
Thank so much for the support! Cheers!
I spent 2 decades mainly as a news photog. Saw the legit folks versus the network of folks who fit in a groups of people. I’ve seen legit photogs with talent from small/mid market move up fast on sheer ability, but seen group of folks move up just by being in a group but little ability.
Not a pilot but av interested since a kid…but have been around knowledge/circle of folks and all the drama related…also met many celebs…
The best of the best will find a path that pays well. Never stop learning. Knowledge is near free now…experience is costly.
Super cool and very true!!!!
Great video man, i’m going to a university to get all my rating this fall. Your videos are definitely motivating to watch.
Awesome! Thank you! I’m glad they’re helpful!
I have to go light sport at first I lost my leg below the knee saving a girls life on the freeway and got hit I tried cessna's and pipers I can't consistently brake properly but I flew a Remos and it's perfect you don't brake with your feet but the flight school I was in went out of business from COVID another fantastic video I look forward to these I have learned so much thank you seriously thanks brother
I like Remo’s, liberty XL2’s also use thumb brakes, also early cherokees use a hand brake under the dash, even my arrow has one in addition to the toe brakes.
Gotta say…. I was down on you for paying for training until you pulled out the 600k a year. Good for you dude. Awesome story……
I wouldn’t have any of the jobs I have if someone else paid for my training. I’d be stuck in some miserable 135 job on min rest 14 days out of each month. 🤮 I pay my trainings, I make my own rules. Easy peasey
Thank you for the videos! Hope to see u at Oshkosh!
I hope so too! Cheers!
Loved this Video. Thank you for all of your knowledge. I aspire to have the lifestyle that you currently have.
I'm retired from the military, was an aviation mechanic on fighter jets for well over a decade. Have my A & P and my private pilot. That being said, all you military aviation mechanics you literally have a get out of jail free card...get your A & P asap because you have the hours automatically through military contract ESPECIALLY AIR FORCE (the Air Force training schools are college accredited). Looking forward to going back to flight school and finishing. My preferred "want" is to fly freighters instead of passenger if I go airline. Like you said networking is everything and at a flight school that is a good start. I still have contact with every flight instructor that I know.
Dude! I start my flight training at FunOutside next week! Garret is an awesome human!
Super Cool. Whats your name?
It's Eric Brovich. I spoke to Garret again on Saturday and he's just working on lining up one of their CFI's for me. After speaking to a few different flight schools he has the best vibe by a longshot, it's not even close. Excited to get rockin'.
Awesome video! If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? Seems like you’ve accomplished so much in life already. Can you talk more about your past career in music and what your retired from?
I prefer to keep my personal information, not part of this channel as well as my previous endeavors maybe in the future I will do a video on it but for now I prefer to keep this channel Aviation based
Totally understand, no worries. Thanks for responding!
Most valuable video so far, thanks so much for sharing.
GOAT TH-camr rn 💯
Thanks so much, means a lot! Ur the goat!
Great Video. Thanks for candid answers. Enjoy your time on the beach !
Absolutely! Thank you so much! 🍻
Great video. Thanks for your transparency. Refreshing.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for supporting the channel
Thank you for this. It's too late for me but I hope to guide my 14 yo son to become a pilot (if he shows interest of course). THIS IS THE WAY
Fantastic recap. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the Vidja. Love the rawness too. Great info. Slowtation!!! lol
Hahah it’s definitely slow! Fun, but slow
@@gear_down That's awesome. I am going to use that. 😂
Great Tommy, excellent video, I took the time to watch it in its entirety and I thank you for sharing some of your great experience in the field. I would like you to tell us how the area of mechanics earns good money and what are the job prospects, thanks..!!!
Thanks for making this video on Vacay my man
Very helpful video, keep it up man!
Appreciate it! Hope you picked up a Tidbit or two :)
Keep up the great Success . Your video inspired me to go A&P school . In San Antonio Texas . Make more videos please .
Awesome video as always dude, thank you for the sick content! What days are you gonna be at Oshkosh, I’d love to meet you! Keep killing the game 👊🛩️💨
Not too sure, just keep an eye out for happy dad hat/shirt 😁
Yes! yes ! One of the best careers out there !!
Thanks! It is fun!
I've started networking with other fellow CFIs and students that may have connections. No bites anywhere I've been asking. At 700 hours all I keep getting is "get to 1500, get to 1500, get more hours, this and that". With all of these people dangling a 6 figure salary in front of me when I can barely afford rent every month as a CFI it's taking the wind out of my sails.
That’s BS, the operators are out there. You need to look at the off the beaten path airports!!! Mid west has tons of operators with a low cost of living!
Don’t let anyone discourage you. Take your CFI ticket to a more affordable area!!!
Great video dude!! Excellent, im really looking forward to getting my FAA license.
Best of luck! Let me know when you get it so I can congratulate you!!!
@@gear_down hey man. Loved the video, you’ve done absolutely amazing! Kudos to yourself & yes I’m studying like mental Shepard air is brilliant. Keep going dude. It’s great to see people achieving stuff. ✈️✈️
This is 🔥 got my private checkride at the end of this month
A lot of people ask how to network. What I’ve found best is learning about different types of aircraft. Especially if you’re low time like me and in GA. Ever since I started paying more attention to what the cool plane I saw was or what those avionics I saw were it started opening a lot of doors. Even as a cfi everytime I see some cool shit pull up to the airport I go and talk to the owner about it. Unless they’re a complete dick they don’t mind giving you some info on it. Maybe nothing happens but maybe sometimes they need a cfi to get there comm or a ii to safety pilot or whatever it is. When you meet people that own aircraft odds are they know a guy with something bigger and better. The hardest part to this isn’t learning about what types of planes there are it’s about carrying yourself respectfully and with some confidence and being willing to just go say what’s up and shoot the shit. There’s been so much cool aircraft I’ve flown just by doing this that I never thought I’d get a chance to. I’m not rich nor do I have a plane. I just love aviation and other aviators will respect your passion. Get out there and shoot your shot. Hope this helps ✌🏻
All of this is very true! Good luck with your journey friend!
Is there a vid or explanation on how you were able to retire 10 years ago....
No, this is an aviation/ travel related channel. I have to keep some parts of my life private :)
@@gear_down OK.. I get that .. I Figured you hit it big with w/Happy Dad... but it sounds like you had things tied up long before that.. Love the channel.. i am a 55 yr old PPL, thinking about a 2nd career in corporate aviation. Your info is fantastic. Looking forward to hearing more.
Very interesting. So I am confused on one thing. Do client’s contact you to fly them or do they contact a company that owns the Gulf Stream jets?
My regular clients on their and Aircraft and call me when it’s time to fly.
The rest of the trips come from companies that need a pilot to fill-in on Jets that are either Owned or managed by them
Love your videos man. Been an A&P since 18. Working on my IFR now and plan on Flying corporate. How does one get into flying for a celeb? I’m assuming networking. Company I work for bought Taylor Swifts falcon, and it was awesome seeing the hangar and setup they have. After her concert last night, I would love to be able to fly around on tour.
Being a celeb pilot is definitely a network thing. Doubtful it would ever happen to a “newer” pilot as their insurance requirements are pretty steep hour wise
Which A&P school did you go to? I’m in OC and looking to go a similar direction. I fly for fun at the moment and am effectively retired but way too young to be actually retired. I always thought about doing the flight school and or a&p thing but keep telling myself it’s a dumb idea. Was pumped to hear you talk about doing exactly that.
I went to a local A&P school in socal. I dont want to be more specific than that right now. That being said, anything involving airplanes is a good time and can provide tons of extra income.
Very helpful thanks Capt!
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
This was a great video and I know nothing about flying a plane!! Clearing $600k a year is a lot of cake and proof the American Dream is very much alive!!!
What days will you be at Oshkosh?
Not sure yet… depends on if my jet is done this week!
Have a great birthday. Cheers from Germany
Thanks man! Cheers!!
Best location to live when it comes to getting into GS and Corporate flying? Cali the best?
I’d say South Florida
I want to fly so bad moneys just the biggest issue for me it’s so expensive. My goal as of right now is to finish my A&P school get a job in the industry and use that income to fund my flight training. I pray to god every day I make it there
That’s a great plan!
Love the advice dude!
Glad it was helpful! Cheers!
Great video as always 👊
Appreciate it! Thanks for supporting the channel!!!!!!
Great Video, is that coporate aviation lifestyle like you life also possibile in europ? Greetings from Germany
I’m not sure man. I’ve flown there many many times, but no clue what the Oooo to are out there. Cheers!
QUESTION: How can someone become a flight attendant on corporate/private flights?--Is there specific training/company to work with?
I'll see you at Oshkosh Grear Down!! S.O.S Bros. beer tent, first one on me!
Sounds good!
My Grandson wants to make a career as a commercial pilot. He just got his pilots license the Fullerton Airport. He is planning to attend training classes in SoCal to grow his knowledge. He is 19 years old and has a great work ethic owning a small business since 10. He wants to work his way up to jet pilot in globally. Any suggestions for a raw talent.
How did you end up as a civilian contractor for the government? Can you talk more about that process?
The airlines obviously have well defined flight benefits for spouse and family. Is there ever an opportunity for a spouse to join on corporate flights?
Yes my family is friends with a couple of my clients. They have accompanied us to Europe and South America on several occasions
Dude when you come to Ktoa I would enjoy meeting you
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Great Channel, thanks for letting us into your world. However, there is something that bothers me about the private pilot lifestyle ferrying celebrities. It seems fast paced, you will inevitably make friendships with A-listers who will invite you to their social functions the night before. Maybe you need to fly them out early the next day. Alcohol consumption and no time to fully rest worries me a bit specially when it is a night time departure or landing. It's a thin line to walk and one that should be addressed with care trying them (your passengers) not to feel disregarded. I'd rather fly businesspeople, then go on my own to procure rest and ample time to prepare for the next leg of the trip. Keep socializing to a minimum.
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I run the schedule on my flights. In doing so, I’m in charge of my rest.
Hi! I'm a private pilot that got my PPL (Actually at FunOutside Aviation! Passed my checkride in 9964L) back in september, and I know its a long shot cause you seem like a busy guy but I'd love to fly with you some day! I'm eventually going to be working on the rest of my ratings to fly professionally too
Hahah I flew 9964L back in the day
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When is it too late to start if the end goal is to fly corporate jets? It’s been my passion my whole life and put flying on hold at the age of 19. Now 32, married and with 2 kids. Probably financially stable enough to cash flow everything by 40 while fulfilling all other financial obligations. Thoughts? Thanks
I don’t think it’s ever too late!!!!
Go for it!
Great video!
Good morning, not a pilot. How many hours have you accumulated flying. You said you have family in NM, do you like red or green?
Big green guy!!!! I’m in the 6000 area
What happened to part 2-4 of crossing the Atlantic on a tiny jet?
Coming soon 👀
@@gear_down😂you crack me up!!!
amazing stories thank you
Do you need an ATP to get in the the right seat when you started?
Yes, I got my ATP at the same time as my G4 type rating.
How many hours did you have when you finally got hired for the G4? And did you do cfi or skip that and fly on your own? How did you get to 1500hours?
How the hell did you clear just under $600K last year?? Literally everything I'm finding online says that private jet pilots bring in between $168,000 and $300,000 on the extreme high end
Guess they’re not doing it right I averaged 2300/day times 234 days on the road in the gulfstream only. You can do the math. I also clear about 20k a month in aircraft management
I’m 54 and need to change careers. I’m a private pilot with about 80 hours. Is it feesible for me to be a pilot. What should be my path??
I’m currently getting my A&P after five years of working on the F-16, but I also want to become a pilot when I separate from the military. Would you recommend I focus on my flight training, or should I work as a mechanic and do pilot training simultaneously? If I work for a corporate jet company as a pilot, can they help me sign off on A&P-related tasks if I am willing to put in the work and time? I love the videos btw!
I’d stick with A&P cuz that’s your best option to make $$$ while training…. 135’s don’t have time to train you to be an A&P while you’re flying. Cheers
I hold my PPL, I’m currently in maintenance school, thanks!
Thank you for this helpful video. I want to know if I can work as private pilot jet (corporate pilot )after i get ppl Or do I have to have a license or other certificate in order to work and earn money
More videos like this please
you said you’re retired from the music industry, what is it you did in the industry??
Any interest in rotary or are you purely fixed wing?
I’ve got about 15hrs in R44. I’ll buy one eventually
@@gear_down I’d love to do both but if I had to choose just one it’d be rotary I think
How many hours were you at before you were in the corporate world?
Heck yeah man, one of my home bases is Oshkosh. Where you going to be at?
Oshkosh 23’
@@gear_down any specific booths to meet with people though or just walking around hanging out?
For the young man wanting to become a pilot. Southeastern Oklahoma State University, Durant Oklahoma pilot/mechanic training program. You’ll get the hours And a college degree. Airlines will eat you up after that.
Would you ever consider getting a type rating for a global 5000,6000,7000,7500?
I literally discuss this in the video.
@@gear_down I will look for it. When you were talking about type rating I thought about the question and did not make it all the way through the video yet. Love the Content.
can you share what you did in the music business?
Maybe in an upcoming video!
Great videos ,
Glad you like them!
@@gear_down I’m in San Diego 7th September at Montgomery from the uk , in a pa28 if your around come and say hi
My dream job as a pilot
Thanks!
Whoa man, you didn’t have to do that! I do appreciate it. I’m going to pay this forward in an upcoming video! This is insane. You’re the 🐐
@@gear_down Your video so timely as my son has interest in a pilot career! Advice on ATP School then hunting for hours spot on. Love the 450 & 550. Former employer used them, was very generous with the planes for business trips. Flew in and out of SNA all the time. Your videos have a familiar backdrop. Please keep them coming with thanks and some beers on us!
Are you in Cincinnati? KLUK?
No.
Let's go 👏👏👏
Thanks for always supporting bro!!
As a pilot, I love looking at jobs I’m severely under qualified for💀
Hahaha SAME
"Cleared just under 600k"!! Wow! Anyone know if thatd be gross, or what he paid taxes on? Im ignorant on contract piloting... thanks in advance.
“Cleared” generally refers to net, not gross.
Netflix got some good plugs here.
Lol
1. Start music studio and network with royalty
2. Spend 10 years + training
3. Get rich
4. Sit back and relax
😂
Haha something like that!
Haha something like that!
It’s still hard work, luck, networking, professionalism and about flying skills. 😊❤
@@mr.ginnationfunlifestyle3891 of course