Great video. You make the basic rules very clear. There are a few that need further clarification, though. At 15:15 a clear-astern boat establishes a leeward overlap and heads the windward boat up to head-to-wind. If this is before the start that is fine, but after the start Rule 17 limits the leeward boat to sailing her proper course. At 18:36 you say that Windward/Leeward (Rule 11) still applies in the Zone, but if the windward boat enters the Zone clear ahead then she has Mark Room (Rule 18), so Windward/Leeward does not apply. (This came up in one of our races last week.) I'm sure many sailors will benefit greatly from this video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. (By the way, there were several situations in the drone footage that would have been useful to analyse with stop-motion.)
Hey Arlin...you are correct in a sense about the windward leeward/restriction after the start. A boat that establishes an overlap from clear astern is not permitted to sail above her proper course unless she tacks. Before the start, there is no “proper course”, thus there is no effective restriction. Note that the rule states you cannot go “above” your proper course, not that you must sail your proper course…it’s a subtle but important difference. As for Mark Room, yes Rule 11 still applies within the zone. If the windward boat enters the zone clear ahead, a trailing leeward boat is no entitled to sail between her and the mark. If she were to force her way in there, she would break Rule 18.2(b). BUT, if the trailing boat were to sail to leeward, she is still leeward and the windward boat is required to keep clear per 11. Rule 18 is a supplement to windward/leeward and port/starboard, it does not erase them. Another way to illustrate this is an upwind starboard mark rounding where both boats have to tack around the mark (common on a Digital N course in team racing). In the zone you can have an inside overlapped boat that is entitled to mark room but is also required to keep clear of the leeward boat. At the same time the outside leeward boat has right of way, but is required to provide adequate room per Rule 18. So the two rules exist simultaneously. Hope that helps!
Great video. Just bought a DF65 for sailing at my local club, but not having sailed for 40+ years welcomed this very enlightening brief. I now feel less intimidated when entering the pond for the first time!
06:00 saying that "starboard tack is when the mainsail is on the left hand side of the boat", while accurate, can be confusing to a beginner. It's better to say that *starboard* tack is when the wind is coming over the *starboard* side of the boat. 17:05 "If the boats are overlapped the outside boat has to give the inside boat room" but ONLY if they are both on the same tack. If one of them is on starboard he has right of way at the mark over a port boat and does not have to give room, even if overlapped.
Well explained. If you care to do a stop frame analysis of mark roundings, a few more complex examples would be really helpful. Very good point about the two perspectives, and about how easy it is to do a penalty turn when you think you may have made a mistake. As easy it is to think this through on a blackboard, the rounding happens much faster. Even estimating the size of the circle is difficult.
The graphics really help understanding. In RC racing, when two boats are close to the wind, and the windward boat is overtaking leeward boat, when does the windward boat get the right of way? Mast a beam or clear of overlap?
The hardest thing is judging where the four boat distance is from the mark. Even when walking around the course. We don’t use the same course you used. Our club has more offset marks.
Hi just got a Mini 12 Rc sailboat, here in Ottawa Canada. Been with the club here for two months and learning a lot from a great bunch of people. I watch your videos on rules and sailing skills. I’ve applied them to my abilities. Your videos are very helpful to me. Thanks
I really like what you said about keeping a positive vibe - theres a few DF65 videos where you can hear people more or less bellowing about some rule or right-of-way or infringement and I don't think I'd enjoy that - it's supposed to be good clean fun!
Rounding top nark, two boats entering zone on opposite tacks, what are permutation of the rules this situation? Great video, could not find link to the s/w you mentioned. Mike
Very well done--super informative. One thing I see a lot is barging at the start line and this may be covered in future. Look forward to seeing more--thanks.
Patrick put a lot of great work into this with some of his fellow skippers who race every Tuesday in Miami! Effective use of drone, video, animation, and easy to understand explanations!
Most excellent video! I have added a link to our rules page on our website. Please make more! THANKS!!
Very helpful video. I’m a newbie. Thank you
Great video. You make the basic rules very clear. There are a few that need further clarification, though.
At 15:15 a clear-astern boat establishes a leeward overlap and heads the windward boat up to head-to-wind. If this is before the start that is fine, but after the start Rule 17 limits the leeward boat to sailing her proper course.
At 18:36 you say that Windward/Leeward (Rule 11) still applies in the Zone, but if the windward boat enters the Zone clear ahead then she has Mark Room (Rule 18), so Windward/Leeward does not apply. (This came up in one of our races last week.)
I'm sure many sailors will benefit greatly from this video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. (By the way, there were several situations in the drone footage that would have been useful to analyse with stop-motion.)
Hey Arlin...you are correct in a sense about the windward leeward/restriction after the start. A boat that establishes an overlap from clear astern is not permitted to sail above her proper course unless she tacks. Before the start, there is no “proper course”, thus there is no effective restriction. Note that the rule states you cannot go “above” your proper course, not that you must sail your proper course…it’s a subtle but important difference.
As for Mark Room, yes Rule 11 still applies within the zone. If the windward boat enters the zone clear ahead, a trailing leeward boat is no entitled to sail between her and the mark. If she were to force her way in there, she would break Rule 18.2(b). BUT, if the trailing boat were to sail to leeward, she is still leeward and the windward boat is required to keep clear per 11. Rule 18 is a supplement to windward/leeward and port/starboard, it does not erase them.
Another way to illustrate this is an upwind starboard mark rounding where both boats have to tack around the mark (common on a Digital N course in team racing). In the zone you can have an inside overlapped boat that is entitled to mark room but is also required to keep clear of the leeward boat. At the same time the outside leeward boat has right of way, but is required to provide adequate room per Rule 18. So the two rules exist simultaneously.
Hope that helps!
Great video. Just bought a DF65 for sailing at my local club, but not having sailed for 40+ years welcomed this very enlightening brief. I now feel less intimidated when entering the pond for the first time!
06:00 saying that "starboard tack is when the mainsail is on the left hand side of the boat", while accurate, can be confusing to a beginner. It's better to say that *starboard* tack is when the wind is coming over the *starboard* side of the boat.
17:05 "If the boats are overlapped the outside boat has to give the inside boat room" but ONLY if they are both on the same tack. If one of them is on starboard he has right of way at the mark over a port boat and does not have to give room, even if overlapped.
Well explained. If you care to do a stop frame analysis of mark roundings, a few more complex examples would be really helpful. Very good point about the two perspectives, and about how easy it is to do a penalty turn when you think you may have made a mistake. As easy it is to think this through on a blackboard, the rounding happens much faster. Even estimating the size of the circle is difficult.
Thanks... just bought a df65 and have no sailing experience. So this helpt me on the way to understand the rules.
The graphics really help understanding. In RC racing, when two boats are close to the wind, and the windward boat is overtaking leeward boat, when does the windward boat get the right of way? Mast a beam or clear of overlap?
Hi there I'm new to this sport & you have given me a better insight into sailing so thank you :)00
really excellent, clear explanations! Great job.
Do these rules also apply for UK DF95 sail races?
Would you post the link to the rule book. I did not see it.
Great video. This covers a lot of ground and you made it very clear. Thanks!
The hardest thing is judging where the four boat distance is from the mark. Even when walking around the course. We don’t use the same course you used. Our club has more offset marks.
Hi just got a Mini 12 Rc sailboat, here in Ottawa Canada. Been with the club here for two months and learning a lot from a great bunch of people. I watch your videos on rules and sailing skills. I’ve applied them to my abilities. Your videos are very helpful to me. Thanks
I really like what you said about keeping a positive vibe - theres a few DF65 videos where you can hear people more or less bellowing about some rule or right-of-way or infringement and I don't think I'd enjoy that - it's supposed to be good clean fun!
I didn't see the links mentioned.
Very well explained and with a lot common sence!!! Thanks for the good make up from Germany!!!
Excellent Job - your video is absolutely super !!!!
How about a video that explains and illustrates the hailing call "starboard"?
Great video, thank you! looking forward to getting into RC racing, cheers!
Rounding top nark, two boats entering zone on opposite tacks, what are permutation of the rules this situation? Great video, could not find link to the s/w you mentioned. Mike
Thank you for the plain explanation about the rules .Most important to point out the altitude to everyone's perspective.Good work
Very well done--super informative. One thing I see a lot is barging at the start line and this may be covered in future. Look forward to seeing more--thanks.
This was a really great video. Thank you so much! Now to find a boat and some club somewhere
Great help. Just starting out in RC Sailing and this was my first video tutorial. Thanks heaps!
Very effective explanation of fundamental sailing rules.
Bravo!
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is the a link to a pdf file? I think this would work well with new members of my yatch club
Oh man, I go to the site and I see 4 versions of the rules....? eek!
Excellent video. Our sport needs many more videos of this quality on various topics to increase enjoyment and level of racing. Thank you
Been racing since '74. Most coherent and useful description we've seen.
What software app are you using to diagram these scenarios?
Excellent video! Well done. Super information.
Thanks Patrick, good advice, well delivered.
I'm new at rc sailing this is a big help, Thanks
Thank you so much for this informative video.
Patrick put a lot of great work into this with some of his fellow skippers who race every Tuesday in Miami! Effective use of drone, video, animation, and easy to understand explanations!
Hi Patrick! Thanks for sharing👍🏻
Fantastic thank you from a noob wondering about the sport
Brilliant. Thanks.
Audio is far to soft.
Went back and checked, seems normal on 2 different devices... Close Caption was updated and available for this video if it helps.
this for this, super helpful
nice vid thanks
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Aye Aye sailor man.
dolphin at 5:17 top of screen?