Nice run! Very impressive! Also, you could have saved some seconds in the sorrow ''battle'' equipping the rpg-7 just right when you equipped the grenade. GG!
actually the WR run was done by Hideo Kojima when his console froze 13 seconds into his run and he threw it out his window. when he went to retrieve the console it was playing the end credits which ended 19 seconds into the run. so the real WR speedrun is 19 seconds by the one and only Hideo Kojima. possibly the best Any% run ever done in any game.
@@FirehawkProductionsThis is false. A faster playthrough was done by the Konami Execs. Instead of running the game in any console, they ran the game with Ps5 or Pachinko Slot V5. Konami execs shoot the screen with the silver balls and then fired Hideo Kojima. All was done within 15 seconds. They also cancelled Silent Hills along the way.
Awesome video! You and Hikari are the best around that’s for sure. Also I have one question tho: what on the shagohodd escape you look up? It’s some kind of trick to prevent enemies to attack you?
It's to reduce slowdown. MGS3 doesn't support frame skipping, so when the game's framerate drops, the game slows down to wait for the next frame to be drawn. This means that you take more time to make the same amount of progress. By looking up, I get a higher FPS, so less slowdown, so I go faster.
DER Wahnsinn !!! 🤣🤣🤣 In 32 Minuten in Groznyi Grad... So was hab' ich noch nicht geseh'n. 🔥 Ich mag ja keine Speed Runs, erst recht nicht bei so einem Spiel, aber allein dafür lohnt sich das Abo!
The Fear's pretty simple if you're willing to do a slightly slower strat. You can grab a machine gun beforehand, then use the fake death pill and wait for him to turn around. Once he does, throw your stun grenade anywhere near him and shoot him as fast as you can with the machine gun.
The SVD is added to your inventory when you regain your gear behind the waterfall. If it wasn't, it would be possible to softlock if you never grabbed the SVD in the 2 relatively hidden locations it appears in.
That's right. With the current strat, doing the fight is at least 45 seconds faster than killing him early could ever hope to be. With the previous strat, sniping him early had the potential to be the same speed, but caused other problems and generally made the game harder, so it still made sense to do the fight.
How do you shoot the pain so fast with auto reload? I Everytime i do it my aim is all over the place and his head moves side by side disruptimg my critical headshots...
"How do I use rations" "Kojima world order" "The controls are fucking balls" "It says MK22 Supressor how the fuck do I equip it" "How the fuck did they detect me I'm wearing the scientist outfit" "The map system sucks why do I have to keep bringing it up like this"
The Sorrow doesn't count towards IGT. The game stores what frame you started the fight at, then reverts the IGT to that frame once the fight is finished, meaning that anything you do during the fight doesn't count, including how long it takes you to finish. That's also why the fact that I had a very slow death in the fight didn't matter.
I can explain part of it. The first part is an AI exploit, and I do it again at 32:42. When a guard turns around to see another guard unconscious, he prioritizes waking that guard up over seeing Snake in the box or hearing his footsteps. If I didn't have the box on, the guard would see Snake. It's similar to what I do at the bridge in the Virtuous Mission (3:20), where I cause a guard to call for backup on his radio, which makes him unable to hear my footsteps, allowing me to walk right behind him. As for why the other guard in Groznyj Grad who looks straight at me, I have no clue why that works.
@@sneakysquirrel1990 The barrel was environmental damage, so it didn't count as a kill. Volgin doesn't count as a kill because he doesn't die, whether I use a lethal weapon or not. Same as Ocelot, but it just happens to be faster to non-lethal Ocelot.
Ich schaue mir mal noch andere Speed Runs an... Ich habe damals versucht, "Galerians" (PS One) so schnell wie möglich zu beenden. 2004 war das. Ich hatte auf ein anderes Ende gehofft. Denn das Spiel endete ja tragisch... Ich habe aber die Fortsetzung nie gespielt. Phase A + Phase B habe ich in 26 Minuten beendet. (Ca. 19 Minuten für Phase A und ca. 7 Minuten für Phase B. So in etwa.)
Do you do anything that manipulates the Pain fight or is it just down to pure speed? I am getting the hang of tactical reload headshots on him, but sometimes it feels like he just says "nah its time for you to be covered in bees" while I'm in the middle of shooting him (the annoying one where the bees fly around and sting you every second)
Not really. I don't recommend going for headshots, it's too easy to miss. Just open with 4 body shots, throw a stun to get him out of his shield, them spam body shots to end phase 1. Open phase 2 with a stun to get him out of his shield, then spam body shots for all of phase 2.
Die schnellste Art, in The Sorrow zu sterben, ist, mit der RPG auf den Boden zu schießen. Ich habe einfach einen Fehler gemacht, als ich Granaten benutzt habe. Das macht aber nichts, denn die Zeit, die man im The Sorrow-Kampf verbringt, wird nicht auf die Spielzeit angerechnet. Der Grund, warum wir die falsche Todespille nicht benutzen, ist, dass man sie im The Sorrow-Kampf nicht benutzen kann.
Like I do in Dremuchij North at the beginning of Operation Snake Eater and in Groznyj Grad Southeast after escaping the cell? It silences my footsteps.
Ich lerne gerne und finde neue Strategien, um schneller zu werden. Es macht wirklich Spaß, wenn man einen neuen Glitch oder etwas findet, das den Lauf schneller macht. Es macht auch wirklich Spaß, wenn man einen Lauf so gut hinbekommt, dass man einen neuen Weltrekord aufstellt.
@@Snake_luKasczeSuhl_EoE_WoW Ich habe mich nie für das Guinness-Buch der Rekorde beworben, also wird es dort bestimmt nicht erscheinen. Weltrekorde erscheinen auf der speedrun.com-Rangliste für MGS3, aber die speedrun.com-Rangliste hatte kürzlich einen abtrünnigen Moderator, der den Volkswillen der Läufer ignorierte und große Änderungen an der Rangliste vornahm und sich weigerte, die Änderungen rückgängig zu machen. Es gibt im Moment keine wirklich gute Rangliste für MGS3.
The box makes you walk up hills and stairs faster, as well as allows you to do box headshots, which is a fast way of taking out a guard. It also puts out fire if Snake is on fire.
Das ist nicht wichtig. Ich drehe es nur zum Spaß. Er verliert keine Zeit, da es bei einem neuen Durchgang einen obligatorischen 10-Sekunden-Timer gibt, bevor die Zwischensequenz nach dem Kampf beginnt.
Nah, that's the dev save. It basically lets you teleport to any room in the game with all items. When it was made, the time was just manually set to 1200 hours. I probably do have at least that much total time in the game though.
It's to reduce slowdown. MGS3 doesn't support frame skipping, so when the game's framerate drops, the game slows down to wait for the next frame to be drawn. This means that you take more time to make the same amount of progress. By looking up, I get a higher FPS, so less slowdown, so I go faster. Looking up is unnecessary on Xbox One/Series, PS5, and PC.
It just means I don't have to repeatedly mash X to skip cutscenes. It has no appreciable use in gameplay. I made a video about this when we were asking the community to vote on whether or not turbo should be allowed in runs: th-cam.com/video/mwo26BnIO5A/w-d-xo.html
@@Major_Zero Thank you for the details. just wanted to be sure there wasn't some secret 10% increase ingame speed or something (what we call turbo in DMC). I clearly see that it doesn't change much, milliceconds speaking
@@zot3976 On some guards (like the one at 2:40), you can do what's called a 'quick headshot' by standing on your toes after aiming you gun, which quickly aligns the gun with his head. For the ones where that doesn't work, it's just practice-mostly getting familiar with my controller.
European extreme with that health and fast stamina draining it's almost impossbile for me. I have to play on very easy to enjoy the game since i am used to mgs1 and 2
@@angelustt His run is multi-segment, whereas mine is single-segment. This means that his run was done in many smaller segments, and mine was done in one single attempt. This allows him to do strats that are impossible in single-segment, such as at 18:45 in his run, when he exits Granin's area with a caution, then saves and reloads to remove it. These runs are separated in different categories on the boards and all runners consider them to be substantially different.
![[PC] Metal Gear Solid 2 European Extreme in 1:21:51 Big Boss Rank](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4dmq0L5mnK4/mqdefault.jpg)
Hikari is still better than you.
Cope harder.
sorry but nobody ask for this comment, chill out
@@Major_Zero based
Lmao imagine simping for any speedrunner. Don't you know they crap their underwear?
@@pigglewiggle175 Damn, I'm halfway to being a speedrunner already, now I just need to start playing video games
You're pretty good
Just what id expect from a man who shares the same genes as The Boss.
After the fear, you having constantly minimal health and stamina all the time had me on the edge of my seat, great work
“With darkness and silence through the night...”
Snake: *stomach growls*
O_O’
Awesome run.
Crazy run, you are the real Big Boss!
What a genius playthrough. You made fans proud.
Kojima: I must re-design the stealth mechanics.
Nice run! Very impressive!
Also, you could have saved some seconds in the sorrow ''battle'' equipping the rpg-7 just right when you equipped the grenade.
GG!
A whole minute and 20 faster than Hikari. Awesome work Major. What saved you so much time?
Movement and a few faster strats. I do just about everything that can save time and still be done in single segment.
Did you know you can kill volgin with a sniper quickly ?
Congratulations on your foxhound rank. Your great with your speedrun.
great job, sick run!
Bro saves the world in the time it takes to have extended lunch break
The actual world record is 1 hour and 13 minutes. Great run mate. Mine was 4 hours 34 minutes with ranking of fox.
You okay bro?
Pain
actually the WR run was done by Hideo Kojima when his console froze 13 seconds into his run and he threw it out his window. when he went to retrieve the console it was playing the end credits which ended 19 seconds into the run. so the real WR speedrun is 19 seconds by the one and only Hideo Kojima. possibly the best Any% run ever done in any game.
@Solid Snake fun fact: Multi Segment speedruns exist
@@FirehawkProductionsThis is false. A faster playthrough was done by the Konami Execs. Instead of running the game in any console, they ran the game with Ps5 or Pachinko Slot V5. Konami execs shoot the screen with the silver balls and then fired Hideo Kojima. All was done within 15 seconds. They also cancelled Silent Hills along the way.
hideo kojima after this
-wait a minute ...
Awesome video! You and Hikari are the best around that’s for sure. Also I have one question tho: what on the shagohodd escape you look up? It’s some kind of trick to prevent enemies to attack you?
It's to reduce slowdown. MGS3 doesn't support frame skipping, so when the game's framerate drops, the game slows down to wait for the next frame to be drawn. This means that you take more time to make the same amount of progress. By looking up, I get a higher FPS, so less slowdown, so I go faster.
Can't wait to see you speedrun mgs delta at some point
DER Wahnsinn !!! 🤣🤣🤣
In 32 Minuten in Groznyi Grad...
So was hab' ich noch nicht geseh'n. 🔥
Ich mag ja keine Speed Runs, erst recht nicht bei so einem Spiel, aber allein dafür lohnt sich das Abo!
Best game of all time. Yes or yes!?
one of the best games ever made
That might be one of the most impressive The End fights I've ever watched.
Have an updoot.
I like to the this is canonically how naked snake completed his missions
Congratulations
You are insane! 👀👀
The ladder was the longest section gg
"You'll die if you don't neutralize that poison!"...
i genuinely do not think we will get lower then this for a while, really impressive, congrats dude
meals eaten 0 and so fast: he was not back for dinner but for lunch😄
Also. I did these runs back in the day on very easy, best time I got was around 1:19:00. I'm very impressed :)
Congratulations!
I'm impressed with the whole speedrun, but The Fear is just unbelievable. How can you possible get to that?
The Fear's pretty simple if you're willing to do a slightly slower strat. You can grab a machine gun beforehand, then use the fake death pill and wait for him to turn around. Once he does, throw your stun grenade anywhere near him and shoot him as fast as you can with the machine gun.
I lol'd when you shot the frog at the end
Great playthrough, but where did you get the SVD? You didn't get it during the End fight, and not in the Ponizovje swamp warehouse.
The SVD is added to your inventory when you regain your gear behind the waterfall. If it wasn't, it would be possible to softlock if you never grabbed the SVD in the 2 relatively hidden locations it appears in.
I dunno but I just saw another video that completed the game in 1hr 13 minutes
Wait, so it's NOT faster to kill The End early ? ( awesome run btw )
That's right. With the current strat, doing the fight is at least 45 seconds faster than killing him early could ever hope to be. With the previous strat, sniping him early had the potential to be the same speed, but caused other problems and generally made the game harder, so it still made sense to do the fight.
I laughed my ass off when you abused the hell out of The End
clean.
Great run, *gfkng*
Im genuinely upset
ive done no alert runs and had so much trouble
this not only does it 4 times faster but it makes it look easy
This game is so good
Nice one, you're pretty good
How do you shoot the pain so fast with auto reload? I
Everytime i do it my aim is all over the place and his head moves side by side disruptimg my critical headshots...
It sounds like you're holding R2 for too long. Two short taps is all you need.
One of my favourite MGS games. It took me ages to conquer the European Extreme level, but I did it.:)
What a Big Boss performance
GG !
the fact that this only has 389 likes is a crime
Now I understand why many people say the ladder are the true boss in MGS3, no trick or bug, glitch can help you beat it faster than other player
8:29 POV you’re my opponent as I try to clutch up and peek B
WHERES MY SHOTGUN
"How do I use rations" "Kojima world order" "The controls are fucking balls" "It says MK22 Supressor how the fuck do I equip it" "How the fuck did they detect me I'm wearing the scientist outfit" "The map system sucks why do I have to keep bringing it up like this"
@@tfang893..theres a map?
“The game doesn’t explain.”
During escape from Groznyj Grad, why didn't you equip cigar? Would've decreased your life bar on the way to sorrow battle.
The Sorrow doesn't count towards IGT. The game stores what frame you started the fight at, then reverts the IGT to that frame once the fight is finished, meaning that anything you do during the fight doesn't count, including how long it takes you to finish. That's also why the fact that I had a very slow death in the fight didn't matter.
@@Major_Zero Wut? The sorrow doesn't count toward the end screen time?
@@freedomfighter271 That's right.
Did all this with an arrow in the knee!
That was amazing! Did you really played the game in normal mode 1237:17:41?!?! That's like 51 days!!! 😳😱😵💫
Thank you, but no, it's just the dev save. The save was just manually edited to say that number, but I don't know who did it.
@@Major_Zeromaybe someone who tried to make all bosses die of old age like The End 😂
Incredible!
43:27. How in the literal FUCK did they not see you? Is there a mechanic that causes this?
I can explain part of it. The first part is an AI exploit, and I do it again at 32:42. When a guard turns around to see another guard unconscious, he prioritizes waking that guard up over seeing Snake in the box or hearing his footsteps. If I didn't have the box on, the guard would see Snake. It's similar to what I do at the bridge in the Virtuous Mission (3:20), where I cause a guard to call for backup on his radio, which makes him unable to hear my footsteps, allowing me to walk right behind him. As for why the other guard in Groznyj Grad who looks straight at me, I have no clue why that works.
How didn't the enemy see him?
The Camo index was -25% !!! at 1:02:22
Guards just can't see through that gap between the tree in the wall, regardless of your camo index.
Great run greetings from Germany
Gonna change drastically now that it's gonna be in full 60fps with fast loading times on Steam. Are you gonna work records on PC in a few days?
Yeah, I will.
i dont understand how it was a no killrun when u blew up a barrel in the mountain killing guards and sniped vulgan in the first fight@@Major_Zero
@@sneakysquirrel1990 The barrel was environmental damage, so it didn't count as a kill. Volgin doesn't count as a kill because he doesn't die, whether I use a lethal weapon or not. Same as Ocelot, but it just happens to be faster to non-lethal Ocelot.
Aw I almost wanted ocelot fight to last long enough for that sweet theme
How did you get RPG against The Sorrow? 40:33
I picked it up at 29:25. Good observation, by the way.
@@Major_Zero You can use granades and RPG against him?
Your pretty good
Ich schaue mir mal noch andere Speed Runs an...
Ich habe damals versucht, "Galerians" (PS One) so schnell wie möglich zu beenden. 2004 war das. Ich hatte auf ein anderes Ende gehofft. Denn das Spiel endete ja tragisch...
Ich habe aber die Fortsetzung nie gespielt.
Phase A + Phase B habe ich in 26 Minuten beendet. (Ca. 19 Minuten für Phase A und ca. 7 Minuten für Phase B. So in etwa.)
Had enough yet?
We're not finished yet.
Do you do anything that manipulates the Pain fight or is it just down to pure speed? I am getting the hang of tactical reload headshots on him, but sometimes it feels like he just says "nah its time for you to be covered in bees" while I'm in the middle of shooting him (the annoying one where the bees fly around and sting you every second)
Not really. I don't recommend going for headshots, it's too easy to miss. Just open with 4 body shots, throw a stun to get him out of his shield, them spam body shots to end phase 1. Open phase 2 with a stun to get him out of his shield, then spam body shots for all of phase 2.
Wieso Granate und RPG?
Kann man bei "The Sorrow" nicht einfach die Scheintod-Pille nehmen? Hab' ich was nicht mitbekommen?
Die schnellste Art, in The Sorrow zu sterben, ist, mit der RPG auf den Boden zu schießen. Ich habe einfach einen Fehler gemacht, als ich Granaten benutzt habe. Das macht aber nichts, denn die Zeit, die man im The Sorrow-Kampf verbringt, wird nicht auf die Spielzeit angerechnet. Der Grund, warum wir die falsche Todespille nicht benutzen, ist, dass man sie im The Sorrow-Kampf nicht benutzen kann.
@@Major_Zero
Ach so. Ich dachte, daß sie zur Verfügung steht.
why hold the grenades without throwing?
Like I do in Dremuchij North at the beginning of Operation Snake Eater and in Groznyj Grad Southeast after escaping the cell? It silences my footsteps.
43:32 maaan that guard is blind...
Amazing bro
Eine Frage:
Warum macht man eigentlich Speed Runs?
Ich lerne gerne und finde neue Strategien, um schneller zu werden. Es macht wirklich Spaß, wenn man einen neuen Glitch oder etwas findet, das den Lauf schneller macht. Es macht auch wirklich Spaß, wenn man einen Lauf so gut hinbekommt, dass man einen neuen Weltrekord aufstellt.
@Major_Zero
Und kommen die WR irgendwo offiziell vor?
So was wie im Guinnes Buch?
@@Snake_luKasczeSuhl_EoE_WoW Ich habe mich nie für das Guinness-Buch der Rekorde beworben, also wird es dort bestimmt nicht erscheinen. Weltrekorde erscheinen auf der speedrun.com-Rangliste für MGS3, aber die speedrun.com-Rangliste hatte kürzlich einen abtrünnigen Moderator, der den Volkswillen der Läufer ignorierte und große Änderungen an der Rangliste vornahm und sich weigerte, die Änderungen rückgängig zu machen. Es gibt im Moment keine wirklich gute Rangliste für MGS3.
What is the advantage that gives you using the box so often
The box makes you walk up hills and stairs faster, as well as allows you to do box headshots, which is a fast way of taking out a guard. It also puts out fire if Snake is on fire.
Nice job
Warum schießen Sie bei "The Boss" auf den Kerotan? Ist bestimmt nicht wichtig...?
Das ist nicht wichtig. Ich drehe es nur zum Spaß. Er verliert keine Zeit, da es bei einem neuen Durchgang einen obligatorischen 10-Sekunden-Timer gibt, bevor die Zwischensequenz nach dem Kampf beginnt.
@Major_Zero Ah ja, danke. :)
Bro, why do u have 1238hours on normal? Is that the time which u trained for the run???
Nah, that's the dev save. It basically lets you teleport to any room in the game with all items. When it was made, the time was just manually set to 1200 hours. I probably do have at least that much total time in the game though.
@@Major_Zero great run btw, take care
25:52 here it is boys.
Why is he looking up when fighting the shagohod?
It's to reduce slowdown. MGS3 doesn't support frame skipping, so when the game's framerate drops, the game slows down to wait for the next frame to be drawn. This means that you take more time to make the same amount of progress. By looking up, I get a higher FPS, so less slowdown, so I go faster. Looking up is unnecessary on Xbox One/Series, PS5, and PC.
skill
GG
What is the difference between a turbo used and not ? Speedrun website indicate you use turbo compared to every other run ever done.
It just means I don't have to repeatedly mash X to skip cutscenes. It has no appreciable use in gameplay. I made a video about this when we were asking the community to vote on whether or not turbo should be allowed in runs: th-cam.com/video/mwo26BnIO5A/w-d-xo.html
@@Major_Zero Thank you for the details. just wanted to be sure there wasn't some secret 10% increase ingame speed or something (what we call turbo in DMC). I clearly see that it doesn't change much, milliceconds speaking
why look up when runaway from shagohod ?
i found the answer in the comments but you think they fixed this in the master collection ?
@@zejpm5950 Yeah, the Master Collection version doesn't have any slowdown unless you have a slow PC, or maybe on Switch.
You didn’t kept them waiting huh…
Kept you waiting hah ?? Snakeeeee
How many times has this game happened to you?
You mean how many times have I completed the game? I'm not sure, but it's certainly in the hundreds.
@@Major_Zero How can you have such a good calibration when aiming at faces?
@@zot3976 On some guards (like the one at 2:40), you can do what's called a 'quick headshot' by standing on your toes after aiming you gun, which quickly aligns the gun with his head. For the ones where that doesn't work, it's just practice-mostly getting familiar with my controller.
21:16 dayum
Brutal lol
Do you not die when poisoned?
Nope. Poison can only take you down to 1 HP.
European extreme with that health and fast stamina draining it's almost impossbile for me. I have to play on very easy to enjoy the game since i am used to mgs1 and 2
fcken epic
bealtiful
1:03:49 Seems so easy...but is not eheheheheh
Not a WR now anymore, Malinki Fox just broke the WR since weeks ago.
Huh?.... a box?🤔🤔🤨
Thats good, but what is the point of speed runs? Genuinely asking.
fun/competition
Learning skips and the ability to completely smash bosses using using cheese strats haha
Proving you're one of the best in something ; sometimes the best in the world
whats the point of sports?????
xSnakeEater132x holds the WR. 3 minutes faster.
That's a different category. This is the world record.
@@Major_Zero how is it different?
@@angelustt His run is multi-segment, whereas mine is single-segment. This means that his run was done in many smaller segments, and mine was done in one single attempt. This allows him to do strats that are impossible in single-segment, such as at 18:45 in his run, when he exits Granin's area with a caution, then saves and reloads to remove it. These runs are separated in different categories on the boards and all runners consider them to be substantially different.
anyone can do a speedrun in 1 hour is pro
Shoulda climbed the ladder faster
I tried
Ho..ly.... Crap.
Fas t
Русские идут домой !
You realize this is European extreme?? Stop playing like it’s not.
speedrun btw…
@David You can play the game in any way you want, there's not a "proper" way to play it
24:54 was close!... I think 🤔 😄 I'm not familiar with MGS speedrun strats
You're pretty good