MY NEW OLD TRIANG PULLMAN COACHES HOW OLD!!!
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- I bought some Triang Pullman coaches at the East Anglian Railway Museum on the 10th October so have given them a clean and got the sticky labels off how will they run and how old might they be? I also went back to the E.A.R.M. the Sunday (1 week) later to see what it was like without a major event on so some pictures and film from that also the Diesel Shunter I could not find any information on its in this at the end. See also the Triang & Hornby Pullmans running at the same time.
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Those old split axle are fixed to one half the other floats on the pin, I used to find the flange is a lot deeper than moden wheel stock as they tan on the old triang track, so code 100 a lot finer and the flange hits the chairs on the track, I know johns amazing trains done a few vids on converting them with axle bearings glued in place to hold new wheel sets
Hi,
So if I understand you the loose wheel and axel should move freely so some oil on it may help the running but I must say for there age I am happy with them and will run them like this so as always cheers for watching and the very nice and helpful comments keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
Very nice set Robert .You can get a kit to change the axles out.And a new set of wheels would let them run far better.Am sure you will sort it ..
Hi Allan what is the kit called and where do you get it from? Cheers regards Michael.
@@michaeldavies9600 There bearing cups you fit into the axles sockets .Check at Peters Spares.
@@lord-al-2024 Thanks Allan :)
Hi Allan again,
Cheers for watching this also and the very nice and informative comments I will have a look at Peters Spares but as these are almost as old as me I still think they run well and it would with the exception of the coupling be nice to keep them as original as possible keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
Doesn't the baggage car go at the back?
Hi,
Thanks for watching and your interesting comment and yes here in the UK the Guards van/baggage coach does go at the back most of the time but in Europe behind the loco is the usual place but if you watch Chadwick Model Railway's video he did not always they can be in the middle of the train so I would say having them at the back is not set in stone they can be elsewhere in the train as operational details ask for as for my layout the detail is in the channel name Trainset I run anything with anything on my loft layout and it will be no different on the new end to end one I am building at the moment. A new update on the end to end on Friday which is No15 in this on going saga hope you can watch.
Cheers Robert..
@@robertstrainset6556 I've a couple of these old Triang Pullman coaches but also recently picked up a couple of boxed Railroad ones. Would they be longer or the same moulds?
@@ajivins1 The old ones are about 9ins long and my railroad ones about 10ins long so if yours are these lengths likely they will be the same molding I would think.
@@robertstrainset6556 Okay, cheers!
I love your passenger trains Robert.Their so British looking.
Hi again,
I thank you also for watching this one and the also very nice comments and not all my trains are British I do have an HO scale Italian one also please have a look as there are over 300 videos some very bad and some not so bad and feel free to comment on them it all helps to hopefully improve what I do as I said before keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
I was given the ordinal Triang Britannia with 3 of those coache, that was1959, still have them.
Hi George,
Cheers for watching and your very interesting comment well done for keeping them all my train stuff that I had when I was young has gone but after many many years have started again and have had to buy it all but as I started as Covid came in it was a great way to pass the time and this layout started with a Hornby train set to which I have added to a little.
Cheers Robert.
Just bought three off the bay site , Mary Ruth and car 79 for £ 29.00
Hi,
Yes about £10 each is about right same as I paid so hope they run well. Cheers for watching and your interesting comments.
Cheers Robert.
Some of the wobble might be the flanges just touching either the sleepers or rail chairs. The old triang wheels had a big flange compared to the newer wheels. Great running session, Robert.
Hi Duncan,
Thanks for watching and the very nice comments I will have a look at the wheel idea you could be right in the video on Friday the wobble is very visible as it comes down the platform so please keep well and safe.
Cheers Robert.
Hya Robert you got a bargain with those coaches I am on the lookout for some coaches to go with the winston churchill funeral van I have just bought and I have just bought the winston churchill locomotive I will post a video when I get them altogether stay safe.
Hi Steve,
Did you see the Hornby program about the van on Yesterday last week it was interesting these coaches take me back to my train set all those years ago so pleased to have them thanks for watching and the very nice comments hope you get the ones you want keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
I rather think that Triang at times used a plastic for the rooves that gradually discoloured over time, hence the creamy colour.
Hi,
That is why I tried the rubbing compound on them but as long as they are clean I am happy after all its a train set. I thank you for watching and the very nice and informative comments keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
One wheel should rotate freely on the axle and the other should be tight on the axle and rotate with it as it is molded round a protrusion on the axle , Johns amazing trains has a video of how to remove them easily from the bogie
Hi Again,
Thanks for the info will have a look at the wheels but I do want to keep them as they are and will put up with the up & down ride as they still look ok to my eyes and I do have the newer set as well. I hope you will have a look at more of my video's if you want it all helps.
Cheers Robert.
enjoyed that Robert... nice buy i think 50£ for the 6 pullmans... nice report of you second visit to the museum... nice cuppa tea on the train journey can't be bad ... stay safe mate. Neil
Hi Neil,
Cheers for watching and the very nice comments and for there age they run well if it was the track they were designed for they would not wobble I would think but stayed on the track so will leave them as they are as for the return visit pleased I went back and still had a good day and another train ride you also keep safe and well and the Pullmans are in the next upload to.
Cheers Robert.
Hi Robert… Great video. I have a rake of those short pullmans with the very early couplings ( like a 3/4 D coupling). I have used some of them on my layout in a static
cafe/restaurant scene on a section of disused track. We must try and keep the some of the old kit going in our modelling I think.
Regards…. Steve 👍
Hi Steve,
Yes I will run these as were not to bad for there age and did stay on the track but as I only had the one 3/4 D coupling cutting it off was the best way to run them so thanks for watching and the very nice comments keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
Hi Robert,
For the two coaches with the old style open axle wheels I suggest you get some Romford brass bearings and change to modern pin point wheels. I have done this with a couple of old tri-ang coaches and they now run as good as any modern one, better in some cases. The bearings come in two types, one with a shoulder and one without. Get both types and use one of each on each wheel set. The shouldered one will stay in place and the other one can be adjusted to get a good free running fit before filling the axle boxes in with epoxy, a small bit of blue tack will aid the setting up stage. I did try two shouldered ones but the fit is too tight and two of the others will be more fiddly.
Stay safe & well. Cheers for now, Rob
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the info but as these run ok without derailing I will leave them as original I only cut the coupling off because it derailed things I want them as they were made as they take me back to my first train set when a bit younger than I am now so cheers for watching and the a foresaid very nice comments you also keep safe and well and see the Pullmans in the next video upload.
Cheers Robert.
I have quite a few of these 9" triang pullmans. Earlier this year I laid my hands on triang 9" blood and custard coaches, dirt cheap, 5 for £16
Hi again,
Now that is cheap what sort of condition were they in and have you fettled them I think Steve at Route 7 Railway has some but his are Hornby's, so cheers for watching and the very good comments the usual sentiments are said.
Cheers Robert.
@@robertstrainset6556 They were in fair condition, I haven't really decided what to do with them yet, I was going to turn them into a camping coach and possibly engineering support coaches. But plans may change.
Great video once again Robert. bring some old pullmans back to life recyling at its best.
By the way well done on 1000 plus subscribers, i said to you at the meet it all takes time my friend. and you are getting there congratulations........all the best Tony
Hi Tony,
Cheers very much for watching and the very nice comments and I am now glad I have a few more than the 1k's so do not dip back under anymore as I am prone to do, I do like these old coaches as it is a link with when I was a kid so will try and keep them as original as I can and if they wobble a bit well so do I and i can not be upgraded its only of they keep falling off I would take that sort of action not watch yours yet as with my wifi going down for 1 1/2 days got some catching up to do keep safe and well "up there".
Cheers Robert.
If had of bought them for my layout. because of code 75 track i would have taken out the old wheels and replaced them for the new scale type. as the older wheels would have ridden on the sleeper chairs.
I do admire your way of thinking and keeping them as original as possible as they should be kept. I dont live to far from you as i am down on the south coast my friend.
you dont have to watch every video my friend. if it was me watching my videos. i would wait right the end of the series when the station is built....but hey thats me....stay safe. all the best Tony
@@TONYNORTHEASTERN Although you may think I watch everyone no I do not and the ones I do watch I do fast forward some of it as I do with others even my own sometimes but that's after watching them a few times I do remember where you live hence the apostrophes on up there but your roof as is the whole layout something else the same can be said for Johns Piccadilly so keep up the good work.
Cheers Robert.
Hi robert i was at a train fair yesterday 😂
Hi Christian,
Yes I see you have a video out will have a look later but I do thank you for watching and the comment please keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
Nice video Robert,i purchased three of these Triang coaches but they are the blood and custard versions.I believe mine are early 1960's which are older than me and i love them :)
Hi Michael,
Thanks for watching and the very nice comments did you get yours for less than I paid? and did see you asked Allan about the wheel improvement details I will have a look at Peters Spares but as long as my ones run and stay on the tracks will leave them as they are as still look good as you will see in the next upload keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
@@robertstrainset6556 Hello Robert i paid £20 for three coaches,i did ask Allan i haven't bought the little cups yet and like you i will just run them as they are before i decide :)
@@michaeldavies9600 Hi thanks for the reply and if we wanted well running coaches we would buy newer ones if they run without derailing or derailing other things I am happy a little wobble is ok and if you can do things to the existing wheels or axels its all part of the fun.
Cheers Robert.
@@robertstrainset6556 I wouldnt buy newer coaches i cant face spending that kind of money out,and besides i prefer the older models.
I can't describe how happy you've made me feel. Your lowdown of the Triang Pullman Carriages was a bit long but nice. I wasn't exactly smiling when you were running the N7, which has one front buffer missing (the one on the right side), yet when I saw Earl of St. Germans on the track and Tornado facing the opposite way, a look of surprise took hold of my face. You mentioned me and that Earl of St. Germans is my favourite engine in your collection. Now a cheerful grin is on my face and I can't wipe it off. I loved the real railway part at the end. Not every steamy you run puts a smile on my face, I admit. When Earl of St. Germans is running, she'll always be music to my ears. I smile most for her.😂🙃
Hi Kelly,
Very well done to you as I found a buffer tonight when shutting down after the live session and wondered where it came from and you have supplied the answer it will be glued back so cheers for watching and the very very nice and helpful comments please keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
Another Great Video. Surprising how big locos are especially when viewed from the ground. Those model carriages look great and for a good price but I hate it when people put stickers in the wrong place but they have cleaned up fine! Maybe a new set of wheels will make a big difference to the running. cheers
Hi Malcolm,
I want to try and keep these as original as I can the couplings had to come off as were causing derailments but as long as they run ok will leave them alone you can see them again in the next upload so cheers for watching and the very nice comments keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
I like It.. Simple as that. Great find good info and Thanks for taking the time to show them to us. Stay Safe Robert, and "Happy Rails" GMan
Hi,
Happy rails to you to so thanks for watching and the very nice comments glad you liked them and they will appear again in the next upload in a musical running session. Keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.