The Ultimate Guide To Composition In Photography - Photography Visual Patterns #8

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    Episode 8 of the series decoding Visual Language with Photography Visual Patterns!
    This week, photography composition, positioning, & layout. This is probably as close as we're going to get when it comes to true "photography rules"; the compositional structures we talk about in this video are some of the very basics of photography and they all come with implied meaning. We decode these meanings and learn how to use them properly.
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  • @jsndms123
    @jsndms123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    We need more photographers like this talking about technique instead of gear! Love it

    • @erik3205
      @erik3205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I know right, many preach gear doesn't matter and you don't need the latest and greatest, but then every week they discuss about switching systems for a newer camera.

    • @michaelglasser258
      @michaelglasser258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I’m soo tired about hearing about the latest gear, story is what matters. Thanks Pat for sharing your visual technique’s - 🤟🏻

    • @dvo66
      @dvo66 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It used be like this pre 2019 youtube, not sure somehow somewhere youtube photography became gear review and talk about the art became less and less appealing to algorithm

  • @Jermzybarra
    @Jermzybarra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can’t tell you why, but I’ve seen the thumbnails for your videos on my homepage everyday for the past year, but I’ve never clicked on one until now. Instant sub. Idk how I’ve never watched this series before, but you did a wonderful job teaching!

  • @gasserabousaif
    @gasserabousaif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I can't tell you how excited I got when I saw a new video about visual patterns. Great video Pat!

  • @devanteross2838
    @devanteross2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I gotta say I don’t comment anywhere much but I really love your videos. I feel like I’m listening to someone read me a really good blog about life and my love for photos haha. I also am trying to stray away from gear content this year and your channel really is a good place for that: less gear reviews, more education and actual photo talk. Appreciate you PK.

  • @braydent94
    @braydent94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Loved the phrase "You are not an elitist, you're probably a wanker." Keep up the great vids Pat!

    • @lizetteroni5410
      @lizetteroni5410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Said it so casually too hahaha

  • @abduljalilattahir4764
    @abduljalilattahir4764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I never made a mistake by coming here. This is one of the best thing to happen to my photography. Thanks pat. We do love your videos. Always!

  • @lindsayvarrie433
    @lindsayvarrie433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how conscience you are. You cover so much by being precise and taking your time for anyone watching. Really easy to understand and put into practice. Thank you for this

  • @belaacs5238
    @belaacs5238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching hundreds of videos on compositions, yours are the best. Doing photography for over 40 years I still learn something new from your videos. Thank you!

  • @fernanddurler4709
    @fernanddurler4709 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    PAT YOU ARE A GIFTED ARTIST/TEACHER…WAY AHEAD OF YOUR YEARS! THANKS FOR INSPIRING AN OLD CHAP OF 60 TRYING TO GET INTO MY PHOTOGRAPHY AGAIN AFTER 40 YEARS! A DUANTING LEARNING CURVE AND WAYYY TO TECHY THAN ID IDEALLY LIKE, BUT UNDERSTAND THE BROADER PICTURE 🙏

    • @sallieturner8771
      @sallieturner8771 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here Fernando, waaaay to techy

  • @user-ld1oi2ov8u
    @user-ld1oi2ov8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah, another guide to composition in photography? Can't get enough of those visual patterns! Keep 'em coming, I guess. 💁‍♂️

  • @eggs-benny
    @eggs-benny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This series is incredible. Thank you for making it

  • @amalieemmynoether992
    @amalieemmynoether992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Firstly I'd like to thank the algorithm gods for recommending your video. 😁 It was an interesting take on composition.
    Second is a small criticism ...I feel that with your own compositional tool (with the muli-lined format)- an object is in the frame is going to randomly fall on one of those lines just by chance since there are so many of them. Since the objects in your photos don't look haphazardly place and are brilliantly shot, I'd love to know what else your thinking about when using your composition tool.
    Looking forward to seeing more of this channel 😁
    PS loved the humour..."you're not an elitist, you're a wanker"😂 that's gold!

  • @gregpantelides1355
    @gregpantelides1355 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, Pat! This series is so inspiring!

  • @sknygames
    @sknygames 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining something that before this video took me about 3-5 youtube videos to semi-understand but not quite.
    Straight to the point, I love it

  • @philbertdeangelo2809
    @philbertdeangelo2809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned a lot of my composition through your video. Thank you so much for sharing it.

  • @GregBrecker
    @GregBrecker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, descriptions of a rather ethereal theme.
    I think your integration of and addition to the center and rule of thirds "rules" is quite insightful.

  • @wolfgangfitzsimons6941
    @wolfgangfitzsimons6941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great series of videos. Thank you for saying what most never get around to doing. You have given me more insight to ideas that i would not otherwise employ.

  • @BronsonWilson
    @BronsonWilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Pat, these videos are super informative. Really appreciate what you are doing.

  • @BrLee-nb2xu
    @BrLee-nb2xu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, next episode for visual pattern 😍😍

  • @PacoM.
    @PacoM. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just wonderful. Amazing breakdown and amazing technique.

  • @ShotByDru_
    @ShotByDru_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another banger!! When I tell you you’re helping this Amateur Photographer out, you have no idea lol keep them coming man!

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      glad they help!

  • @damien5558
    @damien5558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the composition idea you come up with it's pretty cool

  • @TorontoeditsPhotography
    @TorontoeditsPhotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You explained this so well! I really appreciated this video and I actually learned something. 🙏🏽👍🏽

  • @kesa.chandra
    @kesa.chandra 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing the video! It was really helpful for me to start photography

  • @whitenoodlebrain
    @whitenoodlebrain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, this is super helpful for beginners.

  • @johnharkness6095
    @johnharkness6095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Keep up the great work!

  • @hodophileanil
    @hodophileanil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video from the legend, love the explanation and simple style teaching style. Love from India 🇮🇳

  • @JasonLawrenceNoel
    @JasonLawrenceNoel ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate you and your great lessons. 🙏

  • @adamblank5287
    @adamblank5287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video Pat! I love your content. Interesting idea about the super grid. I am going to give it a try.

  • @milicaradanovic6860
    @milicaradanovic6860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and thank u for all advices u give us for free💯

  • @Bduboff
    @Bduboff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use grids a lot in my design work. I had never thought to use it for photography as well. But it makes a lot of sense.

  • @jeffreysproule
    @jeffreysproule 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easily the most important part of photography 📷 great video!

  • @frankcarenza921
    @frankcarenza921 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Thank you very much for sharing this.

  • @angelogodwinuy80
    @angelogodwinuy80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been waiting for this! 😍

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      enjoy!

    • @prince2thethrone
      @prince2thethrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patkay can you make a video showing how to make your grid, and use it in light room? I would like to try it but im new to Lightroom . Thanks

  • @diegogarcia-serna9773
    @diegogarcia-serna9773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always!

  • @themrgumbatron
    @themrgumbatron ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your composition style

  • @adventurecoalition3690
    @adventurecoalition3690 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great lesson/tutorial, thx for sharing your knowledge and expertise 👍

  • @kaperfild
    @kaperfild 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for your work!!!

  • @irmaindriani
    @irmaindriani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you as always!

  • @AtomicPixel
    @AtomicPixel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid stuff bro. Thanks for sharing! Some new ideas for me to try out :)

  • @raheenamohammed1863
    @raheenamohammed1863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought your Lightroom masterclass 🤸🏾‍♀️🤸🏾‍♀️(exciteddddd). Related to this video though… How do you practically incorporate this when you’re shooting please? Is it more intuitive or there is a setting that allows you have your own custom system on the screen while you shoot ?

  • @zachcdy3249
    @zachcdy3249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing videos🙌🏾

  • @alexsamk
    @alexsamk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yahoo! Another one!

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      woo hoo! enjoy!

  • @sri-lankan
    @sri-lankan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so Uchith Pat.

  • @irvinc.1619
    @irvinc.1619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff dude 👍🏽

  • @seemerollin675
    @seemerollin675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for an awesome and helpful video again 🙏

  • @mouggy000
    @mouggy000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers mate! Lots of tips

  • @neillogan6166
    @neillogan6166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool video. Interesting bit at the end.

  • @silas1414
    @silas1414 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Gear videos are good but theory is most delicious.

  • @thomasriera2030
    @thomasriera2030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I love your Visual Patterns series! I agree with the other commenters here that we need more content like this. Photography fundamentals that develop your eye. Nice summary of the different grids! I have a question about your grid though. Makes sense how you built it but, there are so many lines that it seems hard to not have your subject on a line. Your grid seems to make thicker bands about the 1/3 and 1/2 lines. Do you use it more to define these as "zones"? Or, is this more useful if you are arranging multiple points of interest in a picture to put them in good relative positions. Most of the examples that you showed with your grid were simpler with 1 strong subject. Maybe elaboration on this could be its own video?

  • @wesleyzoutewelle8031
    @wesleyzoutewelle8031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video man, +1 sub!!!

  • @danielng511
    @danielng511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very valid rules! Great vid

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you sir!

  • @hitessa
    @hitessa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the idea of your grids! Do you have a template that you use when editing - or how did you manage to create a grid in a grid in a grid- and where do you use it, in post? :)

  • @Thedailyfight488
    @Thedailyfight488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much 🤍💪

  • @thilinaalagiyawanna3680
    @thilinaalagiyawanna3680 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much

  • @alangrate5718
    @alangrate5718 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish I had found your videos 6 months ago! I tend to use the center position and golden ratio the most. I like your grids. Can that be loaded into LrC and is that something you share?

  • @KennyChadinata
    @KennyChadinata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always so enlighting! Thanks for the great lesson! Btw regarding your compositional structure how can you use it while hunting photos? Can you somehow apply it to your camera or maybe do you use it when cropping your images?

  • @LeoArmenta
    @LeoArmenta 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent!!! At last i understand the fibonacci!!! Suscribed!!!

  • @mylifepart2
    @mylifepart2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice...I learnt a lot ...I think I can use this in my video framing too... beautiful..thx you...

  • @fsi2210
    @fsi2210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting way of looking at composition. I credit Myron Barnstone for my approach to composition , he was very formalised and his compositional teachings were based on the Golden Section, Phi and Root Rectangles. It was tough and it didn’t really click with me, on the purpose of his rigidity until much later, it wasn’t to limit how we saw, but to force us to see, and convey the artists intent and to instinctively understand the power behind the choice of line, shape, colour and angle in conveying a story. I don’t follow the rules as laid out but rather approach it as a relationship, which element do I use to create the atmosphere or emotion I want to portray.

  • @sebastienmeyer2861
    @sebastienmeyer2861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you so much for your video !! I have a question concerning your custom grid you mention at the end of the video. When are you using it and how? I guess you can't use it in the field, since your camera can't display it. Are you using it in post-production when you are fine-tuning your image crop? In this case, are you adding it as a layer on top of your image?

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      im actually doing it mentally; sometimes i use the rule of thirds grid to help out, but most of time time i'm just doing this in my head. with some practice it sticks pretty fast

  • @WanchaiChab
    @WanchaiChab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm loving these videos! Quick question, did you design your website by yourself? If so, what language did you use?

  • @alexandermckown1409
    @alexandermckown1409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a preset grid for your nine point chart? Your videos are very informative. Thank you, Alex

  • @thedlawrence4931
    @thedlawrence4931 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    been a hobbyist photographer for 2yrs.. and along the way i got tired of photography because i feel like my photos are boring bcuz i'm always using the rule of thirds when i look at my camera.. watching this video to help myself compose my photos better.. and try other composition aside from the rule of third..

  • @vinicius_de_lima
    @vinicius_de_lima 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome way you aproach this yours composition! Have you ever watched MrRobot? The framing of this series goes like this and its awesome! A great reference for all photographers

  • @rnursemd
    @rnursemd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. I always struggle with composition in the field. My camera overlays its LCD screen with the Rule of Thirds only. How do you apply the other grids in the field or do you do it in post?

  • @AnnaAlexMi
    @AnnaAlexMi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video. I have a question.
    How would you use your grid for a portrait/close up?

  • @neiltuiza7095
    @neiltuiza7095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! 🔥

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      glad you like it!

  • @Patrick_Sauter
    @Patrick_Sauter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you :)

  • @ryandunbar8851
    @ryandunbar8851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Pat Kay Method

  • @TheSolitaryEclectic
    @TheSolitaryEclectic ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video! I am a new-ish photographer hobbyist and I would love to try out this composition grid you created. How can I work with it? Thank you!

  • @micheldroguett
    @micheldroguett 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is very Interesting grid in 10:05 you show us. In my case I learned composition around 2016 to take photo, but I think it is more instinct that thinking about it, I don't know how to avoid it yet.

  • @DavidRamgobin
    @DavidRamgobin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    gonna yoink that overlay. thanks hehe

    • @patkay
      @patkay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha no probs! eventually you'll just do it by eye!

  • @WicherBos
    @WicherBos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am using the Dynamic Symmetry principles a lot… kind of mix of triangles and grid structure…

  • @user-ld1oi2ov8u
    @user-ld1oi2ov8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice visua

  • @suavevision4678
    @suavevision4678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a master class on posing and knowing your camera

  • @hotelunion2368
    @hotelunion2368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need that composition structure you created in my life, like right now. How do I get me one of these?

  • @ddsdss256
    @ddsdss256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting, but we all need to keep in mind that there is no exception to the rule that there are exceptions to every rule! One of the biggest problems with basing composition on any grid-based pattern (or such things as the “rule of odds”) is that different elements of an image have different visual weight (largely dependent on luminance and chrominance) and will therefore need to be adjusted to compensate and provide “balance” (it that's what's desired). Balance (depending on how one defines that) isn't always the goal, as one may well want "dynamic tension." It’s good to know the “rules” (often in order to consciously avoid them most of the time), but of course there are exceptions (e.g., an almost-level horizon or obscured subject generally looks like you just screwed-up), but the main thing (just like in music) is to learn the fundamentals and then experiment to find your vision. Just go by “feel”-if it looks good (to you--who cares what others think, unless they're paying for a certain look), it is good, regardless of where the lines may fall.

  • @kingofetiquette1652
    @kingofetiquette1652 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really interested in your own compositional tool, but how do you apply it? Did you add it to your camera, do you use it in editing or do you use it in a different way?

  • @a.beckwith4576
    @a.beckwith4576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou I enjoyed the video, I would like to see you in action taking a photograph and give us a walk/talk through your thoughts.

  • @johannadaydreamer
    @johannadaydreamer ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you use the grid while shooting or when cropping in post?

  • @remmelz
    @remmelz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any way to see these overlays in camera when you are framing your shots? Or is this something that you would add in Lightroom to adjust your framing afterwards? Just trying to figure out how I would go about shooting with some of these compositions without seeing the overlay in camera.

  • @afrancummins3817
    @afrancummins3817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think I was ready to understand the golden ratio, but I do.. and I’m not sure what to do with this information. I feel like a child with the Infinity Gauntlet

  • @HeyQuinton
    @HeyQuinton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should probably add the hook to your video before the introduction to retain viewership and prevent drop off - i.e. what the video will show you (maybe with a photo[s]) then get into the "hello...description

  • @BrockLord
    @BrockLord ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you take Those photos of the woman with the red umbrella they are spectacular

  • @tpower96
    @tpower96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Completely off topic 😆 where’s the hoodie from !??

  • @dylann4723
    @dylann4723 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone figure out if he got the gridlines onto his monitor or is he doing it in post?

  • @jsndms123
    @jsndms123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want that hoodie! Who makes it?

  • @dhairyasharma6627
    @dhairyasharma6627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gained a sub for not talking abt gear and something much more useful

  • @sandfrex8790
    @sandfrex8790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, can you show us how to shoot pro photos of ourselves with an iphone?

  • @christopherbailey128
    @christopherbailey128 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could just be a blond by asking this question but how are you able to format that grid to overlay on your camera when your taking your shots ?.

  • @pruthakpruthibi7150
    @pruthakpruthibi7150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please simplify your own last method?

  • @mojtabakazemi7606
    @mojtabakazemi7606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍👍

  • @scottyharp
    @scottyharp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you set up your compositional grid in Lightroom?

  • @tryweb_villeongheisrelevan4742
    @tryweb_villeongheisrelevan4742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👆❤Yoo this dude has done pure and great job this time you are recommended dude 👍👍💓

  • @Yesthankyou8
    @Yesthankyou8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mostly try just compose using my eye and what feels right. Sometimes it doesn’t feel right and then I use the rules and find the balance. Not that my pictures are great but that’s how I compose

  • @kristiangurholt59
    @kristiangurholt59 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my opinion, using compositional tools like the rule of thirds does not make the composition balanced in and of itself. What makes the composition balanced is framing subjects and other elements in a way that take their compositional weight into account. If you have let’s say a single subject, like a person, on a simple and monotone background, like a beach and a blue sky, the most balanced composition would be with the person in the middle. Only if there were some other elements adding weight to either side of the frame, then I think it would make sense to place the subject on the opposite side of that, such as where the gridlines intersect.

  • @Dreddwinner
    @Dreddwinner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😶‍🌫️

  • @pedvro
    @pedvro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really don't see how the compositional structure you mention at the end of the video can be helpful. With such a fine grid, with so many lines and intersections, virtually anywhere you'd place a subject on the plane would result in a 'balanced' composition - which is pretty much the same as having no grid or structure at all, and just scattering the elements on the plane at will.

  • @user-ld1oi2ov8u
    @user-ld1oi2ov8u 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meh, another guide on composition? Can't we just shoot what feels right instead of following rules and patterns?