Ep. 142: How are They Different? - Traxxas XO-1 & Slash 4x4 Platforms Comparison

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  • @bradgotch
    @bradgotch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the first RC video of any sort that I have enjoyed listening to and watching. Your delivery is soothing and not in any way irritating. I am attempting to build a speed dedicated car out of a slash 4x4 this was a big help thank you.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @cripticcustomrc7043
    @cripticcustomrc7043 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man bro outstanding video and I know I’ll be revisiting this one for a long time to come great information and well explained

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the great words. I'm obviously a big fan of the Traxxas 4wd platforms. I just wanted to show that you could get most of the performance for a much lower price.

    • @cripticcustomrc7043
      @cripticcustomrc7043 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rhouse21 - RC Physics I have an xo1 that I’m tryin to budget build did the stock slash 4x4 cvds work I’m lacking the motor mount the cvds and the diffs so it was very informative to see this vid

    • @Foldingblade
      @Foldingblade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you able to buy the set as a conversion kit and how much did it cost

  • @laruelayton3626
    @laruelayton3626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve recently done a stretch slash street eliminator up to a 1/7 scale, buddy of mine was racing me with his xo1 against my regular street eliminator, well he crashed it before we could get going, hasn’t fixed it yet cost. Though he has a felony, infraction, and all the other big cars, I just laughed.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The XO-1 and Arrma 1/7 scales have the same wheelbase, so the big difference with them is the motor mounting position, battery layout, and overall weight. It looks like the xo-1's lighter weight actually works against it in some speed applications because the extra weight gives more weight on the wheels for stability, but it's not an unsolvable problem.

  • @christopheralexander6147
    @christopheralexander6147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I said this on a forum once, years ago when the X0-1 hit the shelves, and nobody cared to see what I noticed. Now do what I’d like to see, and make an Off-Road X0-1, or a 100mph short course truck. Also while I’m on, I think this could use a Dodge MS4 body, just cause I’m old.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny you mention this. I've actually been toying with the idea of building an off-road XO-1 for a while now, especially since the ARRMA 1/7th scales have the same wheelbase, so I could use one of their bodies to give it the right "nasty" look. Thanks for the comment!

    • @janus4002
      @janus4002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think an off road XO-1 would be awesome! It's an old thread but would love to hear if you did it. Would love to do that to mine but I'm not that skilled yet.

  • @GregoryMosher
    @GregoryMosher 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this vid man, watched it a half dozen times. I am going to be hitting you up with questions soon. I am building a cheap-ish 2wd X-O1. Proline HD Transmission set up in a midmotor configuration on the xo1 chassis. Reduced internal drag and increased efficiency should make for a fun exercise in car building 😀

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! The XO-1 driveline is already pretty low drag stock, but there's always room for improvements. Plus, sometimes it's just cool to build something unique simply because you can.

    • @GregoryMosher
      @GregoryMosher 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rhouse21 - RC Physics Damn skippy :-) Can't wait to mock everything up and get some footage out of my insane idea. Did you run this weekend?

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had something planned with my daughter, so I couldn't make the RUN DMV event. I did get to do a little testing with the XO-1, though. This car is teaching me about the dark side of buying used. I love it, but it looks like the diff fluid is the wrong weight. as soon as I get around 50 mph under hard acceleration, one of the wheels diffs out and it snaps into a spin. I should have this sorted out shortly, but it's just a pain dealing with this stuff.

    • @GregoryMosher
      @GregoryMosher 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rhouse21 - RC Physics Family First :-) Ugh, sucks about the diff issue, I have yet to mess with a diff on a 4wd. Looking forward to seeing what Surley and Dizzy can do with your mad scientist antics behind them.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I think the XO-1 platform is pretty cool and has a lot of potential to do all sorts of silliness. Good luck!

  • @michaelreece458
    @michaelreece458 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, that's gonna help me quite a lot!

  • @JibaroCZ4A
    @JibaroCZ4A 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i head slash rear shock towers on an x0-1 slash hybrid I was making. I think the taller rear tower gives too much suspension travel. everytime i compressed the suspension my rear diffuser would hit the ground.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ariel Santiago Good point! It's not an off road chassis and all that suspension action then needs to be limited.

    • @JibaroCZ4A
      @JibaroCZ4A 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      E-revo shocks worked out perfectly. I have heard some guys just use turnbuckles to limit all travel.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ariel Santiago Even with hard springs and high speeds, your suspension is doing a lot of work. I have some onboard GoPro footage from inside Dizzy during a 55 mph testing run and I was amazed at how much suspension action was going on. If you replace the shocks with turnbuckles, those road forces still have to go somewhere. Plus, there's a greater chance at least one wheel will loose contact with the ground and spin, sapping power away from your run and potentially causing a spinout.

  • @udluuz8797
    @udluuz8797 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice comparison review. What kind of tires do you have on the XO

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +udluuz That roller came with a set of bald Kyosho Inferno wheels/tires. I haven't figured out if I want to buy new tires for them or if I should sell them. Interested?

    • @udluuz8797
      @udluuz8797 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rhouse21 - RC Physics Thanks I'm ok. I have a set of BSR's that I will be trying out. Thought those tires look like GRPs

  • @Foldingblade
    @Foldingblade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you able to buy the set as a conversion kit and how much did it cost

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can buy all Traxxas part online. There are a few guys on Ebay that part out cars and you can sometimes get a pretty good deal on everything you'd need to go pretty much anything you want. I'm not aware of anyone selling a complete kit, thoiugh. Still, do some google searches or ask around in the Facebook groups. There may be something out there.

  • @laruelayton3626
    @laruelayton3626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you do another one I’m interested

  • @WaynePeeples
    @WaynePeeples 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watched every bit!!

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Wayne Peeples Thank you, sir! I always feel bad posting really long videos, but I try to make them information-rich and interesting.

  • @stormhawk31
    @stormhawk31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where you at, man?

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm in the DC area.

    • @stormhawk31
      @stormhawk31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RCPhysics LOL No, I meant that I haven't seen anything like this from you lately.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stormhawk31 LOL! I've been taking a little TH-cam vacation, but I'm about to start posting again shortly. I've still been filming (a lot) and just need to work through my editing backlog.
      Check out this post I just made on FB for an update on where this car is now. It's gotten some pretty big upgrades, so look to see some cool stuff from it soon. 😎
      facebook.com/rhouse21RCPhysics/posts/1766690580169109

  • @ScottSSSUlmtd
    @ScottSSSUlmtd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where did you get the motor mount for the slash 4x4?

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was mad by a cool guy who goes by VGad23. His company is called Saga Custom RC. He has a TH-cam Channel but here is a link to his ebay site. www.ebay.com/usr/vgad23

    • @ScottSSSUlmtd
      @ScottSSSUlmtd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay...yeah I've been to the saga site but do not really care for how high the motor is with his mounts that he had posted. I just got out the dremel and opened up my slots on the stock mount and it has been working.
      goo.gl/photos/qxFhaLSLnAwAwP9o8
      I was just wanting a more professional mount. Yours isnt very high compared to his site. Anyways....thx for the videos. Good job most the time, a little wordy and long but I understand that many people need "wordy". ;)

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't seen this mount listed in a while, but send him a message on Ebay or TH-cam. He can probably do one custom for you. He actually does a LOT of custom work. He comes down to the RUN DMV events a lot, so I just saw him yesterday. Great guy.

  • @yugorc9386
    @yugorc9386 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sweet cars bro love that xo1

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @jgillylikesbudsalot7436
      @jgillylikesbudsalot7436 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCPhysics are the xo1s as good as they claim I'm getting one and wanna know my 1k is being spent on what I need and is the speed they claim true ?

  • @dannywong1950
    @dannywong1950 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the 1.75 oz of tape weight help the xo1 drive a bit easier? Thx

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +RC FANATIC416 The XO-1 is a bit rear heavy, so a little weight up front is not a bad thing. The front body mount I'm using was a used part with weights already applied by the previous owner. It's not the ideal weight yet, but it's definitely not hurting the handling.
      I was waiting until I finished all my internal mods and got my run-batteries in before doing my final weight balance. I like to have the front wheels fairly well loaded to help keep the nose down, but I don't like carrying ballast when I don't have to. I'll probably use my GPS and maybe an on-board camera as my main "weights" up front and see how that feels.

  • @franksilvers7998
    @franksilvers7998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can find a GOOD used XO-1 for around $400.00 rather than a slash or some thing for $300.00 + another couple of hundred
    more trying to do a conversion !

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, I was able to complete this Slash / XO-1 hybrid rolling chassis for about the same cost as a Slash 4x4 / Rally rolling chassis, but this was a few years ago when Dollar Hobbyz was still selling Traxxas parts at a DEEP discount.
      It's funny that you bring up a $400 used XO-1 because that's about what I paid for the used "real" XO-1 in the video. The point of the hybrid was a little different, though. This build was for the guy who liked the look and stance of the XO-1, but didn't need the full performance package.
      Since posting this, I've heard from a lot of guys who wanted the look and attitude of the XO-1, but just wanted to throw it around a parking lot or drift with it. These guys could pick up a rolling chassis online , or a box of parts from a buddy and combine them with spare parts they may already own to make something fun that costs less than half of the full XO-1 sticker (or less).
      Thanks for watching!

  • @2cwik4u104
    @2cwik4u104 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great vid. very informative house.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +2cwik4u104 Thank you, sir!

  • @cannibalrc9241
    @cannibalrc9241 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +CannibalRC Much appreciated!

  • @mrmontgomery526
    @mrmontgomery526 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question sir will a xo-1 body fit my slash 4x4?

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, no. The XO-1 is longer than the slash, so it's body won't fit without significant modification.

    • @mrmontgomery526
      @mrmontgomery526 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCPhysics hey sir i found a way to fit the xo-1 body on a rustler,just remove the gear box just install to 2 plate in the middle between the back plate of the rustler chassis and attach the gear box onto the end of the plates to match the wheel base measurments same as the xo-1

  • @DonaldByrd1970
    @DonaldByrd1970 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why waste time reinventing the WHEEL? Just upgrade the weak parts of the WHEEL.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Donald “NOT PLAYING1970” Byrd Cheapness is a powerful motivator. LOL!!! Seriously though, I kinda "reinvented" the XO-1 with Dizzy, but saved a few hundred dollars in the process. An XO-1 /Slash hybrid would let someone have an actual XO-1 for about the price I paid to build Dizzy. That's not too shabby.

    • @DonaldByrd1970
      @DonaldByrd1970 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand the reasoning for doing so. I for one am not the type of person to take as many routes as you to achieve the same goals. I will however take a chassis from the X01 and modify it make more from less. Congrats to your projects and hope you achieve the results you are looking for.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Donald “NOT PLAYING1970” Byrd My wife often teases me about making things more complicated than they need to be. 😌 That being said, one of the points of my channel is to encourage people to engage their "hustle genes" and find creative solutions to life's challenges. If I can inspire a kid to turn a Slash into an XO-1, I might also be able to convince him/her to look at science or engineering as a career field. Yes, I'm trying to use RCs as a gateway drug. But an engineering addiction can change lives in the positive direction.

  • @Dirty263
    @Dirty263 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good video my friend but I run mine with regular Bodie my friend all the time with no fiberglass but I might try it my friend . nice vids tho

    • @Dirty263
      @Dirty263 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also the 1/5 scale wheels a,stop it from flying in the air to .

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dirty263 You have a point. The body in stock form will work, but high speed fluttering increases drag a bit. The bigger factor is that reinforced bodies really help out in a high speed wreck. I forgot to increase my brakes at RUN DMV #4 and Dizzy couldn't stop in time to miss a curb. The car hit at speed and flew at least 15 feet before landing on asphalt. The fiberglass took most of the hit and I only lost $10 worth of plastic pieces. I'm pretty sure Dizzy would not have survived without the fiberglass hull.

    • @Dirty263
      @Dirty263 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +rhouse21 - RC Physics yea right about that . I just haven't done it on none of my cars lol I might need to try it tho n see .

  • @BanditRCracing
    @BanditRCracing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of wheels are those on the XO-1?

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are some Kyosho Inferno rims that came with the roller. I loved them so much I had Gone Bananas put foam on them for speed runs. 😎

    • @BanditRCracing
      @BanditRCracing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCPhysics I’ve been looking for different type of rims for my XO-1. No luck finding nice ones. Is there a site you suggest? And do you know what sizes I need?

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you looking for "speed" wheels or something cheap to run around on?
      The XO-1's wheels are slightly larger in diameter than standard 1:8 scale on-road wheels. I've found that cheap 1:8 scale buggy wheels from ebay are fine for cheap basher tires to drift around parking lots with. Here are links to 2 videos I did about these types of wheels & tires.
      th-cam.com/video/4Y-Vde5-dhE/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/qhZIWkaC-PE/w-d-xo.html
      If you are looking for good "speed" wheels, You should check out this video.
      th-cam.com/video/wJ7KLeBU77w/w-d-xo.html For the XO-1, you can contact Gone Banana's and Ric can put custom foam tires on any wheel you like.

    • @BanditRCracing
      @BanditRCracing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RCPhysics I wanted one set to bash on and another for looks. I’m in the process of painting an XO-1 body. Then Ima buy the Corvette GT2. Just want varying rims

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BanditRCracing Any of the ebay 1:8 buggy wheels should work then. They usually have diameters of ~110mm which is just a little smaller than the stock XO-1 wheels. Just check the listing before buying to make sure they aren't smaller like the ~95mm tires.
      Also, make sure to tape the insides of the wheels like I did in my videos so you don't get ballooning.

  • @santiagomguerrero89
    @santiagomguerrero89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just can’t take to much s..... there s A LOT best brand up there BROOO for 17mm adapters why why get Traxxas please give a badass explanation

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's really simple. I built that hybrid chassis to sell. If I picked an aftermarket brand for the 17mm adapter, I would have to explain why I thought that brand was best and someone would probably disagree, so it would limit the market. Going with Traxxas was about the same overall price, but this would be acceptable to more people since it is the stock part which works just fine.
      The think about building items specifically to sell is that you have to make decisions based on what would have the broadest appeal, even if it's not your personal preference.

  • @Azaelyyandel
    @Azaelyyandel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rhouse21 does the slash 4x4 shock towers fits the xo- thanks i subed.1

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The answer is a yes and no. The Slash 4x4 and XO-1 use the same diff cases, so you can bolt Slash shock towers to an XO-1. However, the XO-1 uses shorter towers because it doesn't need as much suspension travel. Specifically, the XO-1 uses an aluminum Slash 4x4 front tower on its rear and an even shorter XO-1 specific tower for its front. You can however set up an XO-1 with Slash 4x4 towers, but you just need to be careful to set the suspension geometry to get the car handling properly. I almost did this myself, but the price difference between the Slash and XO-1 towers was pretty small, so I just bought the XO-1 parts.

    • @Azaelyyandel
      @Azaelyyandel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the advice. Going for X-o1 towers

    • @Azaelyyandel
      @Azaelyyandel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rhouse another question,does tbe slash 4x4 rear/front hubs fit the x-01 with plastic drive shafts. Just dont have the money for the cvd drive shafts. I have a set of 4 from my rustler? Thanks again.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The XO-1 uses 6mm output shafts on their CVD shafts. However, you can just use Slash 4x4 shafts front and rear with the Slash hubs and you can even use Slash diffs. I built and sold a "Slash-O-1" exactly like that and the buyer was really happy with it.

    • @Azaelyyandel
      @Azaelyyandel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info.

  • @TastierBackInThe80s
    @TastierBackInThe80s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, very informative but the music is repetitive and sometimes hinders the info your passing on.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the honest feedback. I film at home and I need some background music to mask the sounds of "Family Life" in the background. I've gotten a litter better at mixing the audio in later videos. ;-)

  • @santiagomguerrero89
    @santiagomguerrero89 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well good explanation buddy but the title of video is way OFF it should be hybrid xo1 stuck parts building for sale

  • @davidgaleski5303
    @davidgaleski5303 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just like losi 5ive tucks old and new

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why reinvent the wheel if you have a system that works?

  • @PopExpo
    @PopExpo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So its a stretched 1/10 scale.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stretched 1:8 scale actually. The Traxxas 1:10 truck are really the same size as most 1:8 scales, but the plastic chassis are light enough to get good performance out of 1:10 scale power systems.

  • @thomaswillis9296
    @thomaswillis9296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do you sound Just Like Jeff Goldberg, r u Jeff lol

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a new one! Thanks for watching!

    • @christopheralexander6147
      @christopheralexander6147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t hear gordberg, I hear goldbloom.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopheralexander6147 Thanks.... I think... LOL!

  • @LugnutzGarage
    @LugnutzGarage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative video. However, your use of the phrase "you know" is quite excessive. It is definitely your crutch word. Work on getting rid of that and your narrative will be much more enjoyable.

    • @RCPhysics
      @RCPhysics  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback. 😁