Ram like to use smoke and mirrors to confuse the towing capabilities of their vehicles. You can never tow the rated amount due to the low payload capacity of the vehicles. I have found that the Payload is often around 1300 pounds on tbe 1500 Ram , once you factor in the trailers tongue weight say 700 pounds, plus 400 for passengers, not much left for storage in the bed. This means you run out of payload capacity long before you reach the advertised towing specs.
RAM 1500 can tow 4.5Tonne BUT must have the 4.5tone upgarde opition...This is a bigger axle and needs to be special order for up grade, as most 1500 come with only 3.5Ton towing capaicty
Why are the US towing specs a lot higher than in Aus? Is it anything to do with engineering or just to get it all on a Class C license as opposed to the US. In the US this isn't an issue and electric brakes aren't even a requirement. Are we just being overly cautious?
More about the class C license. Australia has tow ratings that based on the European regulations. That actually makes the tow rating for smaller vehicles much higher in Australia than the same vehicle would get in the US. A lot of vehicles that have a tow rating in Australia are listed as not recommended for towing in the US. The US uses SAE J2807 which specifies braking distances from various speeds as well as acceleration times to speed. US also specs higher tongue weight as a percentage of trailer weight than Europe/Australia since we are allowed to tow at the same speed as other traffic and need the stability. However, we can also run singles and combinations up to 26,000 lbs on a standard passenger license. In the 37 states that have RV exemptions you can hook this up to a 14,000 lb GVWR truck (f350 DRW/F450/Ram 3500 DRW/GM 3500 DRW) and drive away legally on a regular passenger license: luxefifthwheel.com/products/best-constructed-luxury-toy-hauler/. The half ton trucks in Australia appear to be de-rated from American specs. Although anyone towing often or heavy in the US is not going to opt for a 1/2 ton. Mid-weight option would be a F250/F350 SRW, 2500/3500 SRW.
Can anyone refer us to how axle weight works? We want to tow a van atm 3.2T but have been warned that ram1500 ds express may not work for us due to rear axel on ram being rated 1720 kg
Laramie Payload is 833kg Kerb weight is 2,617kg without Rambox. Which makes it the best option in the 1500.
Rookie mistake. You are counting the ball weight twice. On GVM and GCM..
GVM - 3450kg
GCM - 7237kg
Difference - 3787
Say ball weight is 400kg, included in the GVM.
3787 + 400 = 4187kg you can tow at GVM.
At 4.5t towing you will have a payload of 117kg. Enough only really for the driver and perhaps a few light items.
Still possible.
Sorry, meant to say you are adding the ball weight to GVM and trailer tare. It only needs to be counted once in the overall GCM.
Ram like to use smoke and mirrors to confuse the towing capabilities of their vehicles. You can never tow the rated amount due to the low payload capacity of the vehicles.
I have found that the Payload is often around 1300 pounds on tbe 1500 Ram , once you factor in the trailers tongue weight say 700 pounds, plus 400 for passengers, not much left for storage in the bed.
This means you run out of payload capacity long before you reach the advertised towing specs.
RAM 1500 can tow 4.5Tonne BUT must have the 4.5tone upgarde opition...This is a bigger axle and needs to be special order for up grade, as most 1500 come with only 3.5Ton towing capaicty
We are talking about the rams Available through ram Australia , not imported options through other parties
Why are the US towing specs a lot higher than in Aus? Is it anything to do with engineering or just to get it all on a Class C license as opposed to the US. In the US this isn't an issue and electric brakes aren't even a requirement. Are we just being overly cautious?
More about the class C license. Australia has tow ratings that based on the European regulations. That actually makes the tow rating for smaller vehicles much higher in Australia than the same vehicle would get in the US. A lot of vehicles that have a tow rating in Australia are listed as not recommended for towing in the US.
The US uses SAE J2807 which specifies braking distances from various speeds as well as acceleration times to speed. US also specs higher tongue weight as a percentage of trailer weight than Europe/Australia since we are allowed to tow at the same speed as other traffic and need the stability.
However, we can also run singles and combinations up to 26,000 lbs on a standard passenger license. In the 37 states that have RV exemptions you can hook this up to a 14,000 lb GVWR truck (f350 DRW/F450/Ram 3500 DRW/GM 3500 DRW) and drive away legally on a regular passenger license: luxefifthwheel.com/products/best-constructed-luxury-toy-hauler/. The half ton trucks in Australia appear to be de-rated from American specs. Although anyone towing often or heavy in the US is not going to opt for a 1/2 ton. Mid-weight option would be a F250/F350 SRW, 2500/3500 SRW.
Can anyone refer us to how axle weight works? We want to tow a van atm 3.2T but have been warned that ram1500 ds express may not work for us due to rear axel on ram being rated 1720 kg
With out knowing all your weights it’s hard to know but a ds has less payload than a Dt ram
Why can’t you get a hino or isuzu rigid , if you are going over 3.8 t
You certainly can or a ram 3500
@@tjpauto buying a small rigid truck that can pull 4.5t won’t cost anymore 90k -3500ram be to expensive
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