Very underated channel in my opinion. Thank you for your continuous contributions to "open source" education. Also, I'm impressed at your willingness to spill about having to take a bit to look at the saw because of the mitre issue. Keep on keeping on!
I bought one of these because of your video. It did not disappoint. This thing cut through 1/4” metal quick and with very clean results. Thanks for the great video. My metal working is now much easier and more enjoyable.
Just a tip for these metal cutting chop saws: Try and avoid cutting flats in a horizontal orientation if you can avoid it because it puts extra wear on the blade ($$$$). The less meat the tooth has to travel through the better. For example cut the angle iron with the corner pointing straight up, and cut the flat plate with it's side vertical rather than flat on the saw base. It'll cut much quicker. For really thick stuff like that rail road tie I would still try to use your band saw.
Even the angle iron should be turned over so it never cuts a flat. Thats what the piece that slides over the clamp is for. I just got one of these and it is incredible. I have been cutting 2x2x3/16 and the Evolution saw cuts it with less pressure than my Milwaukee Chop Saw with a new blade to cut a 2x4 piece of wood. Liked it so much I bought the circular saw too and cut 3/16 plate. Wear long sleeves, a good face shield, gloves and a hat. Throws the chips even with the shop vac hooked to it but precise, smooth and fast.
John Pyle I bought this saw a few weeks ago and it’s amazing. Cuts like butter, angles are perfectly square. Highly recommend this saw over the steel base or Rage models
Thank you for the review!!!! We have had this saw for several years in our shop and gone thru many blades. It has cut unbelievable amounts of steel. We also have the EVOSAW230, and have gone thru 2 saws. We had a problem with a new 230 saw, (maybe it got dropped...don't know what happened) and Evolution took care of the problem under warranty, great customer service! Yes the chips can be annoying, but the cuts are way better than what we call the "sparky" type chop saw. The saw cuts faster than sparky. Actually surprised our saw has lasted this long, as it goes thru severe use. We do need to upgrade the 380 saw as ours has cut so much steel it is starting to cut a bit off square. Your review is spot on, and thanks again!!!
I have one of these saws for over 2 years. On my second blade now. First one I would say lasted about as long as maybe 12-15 abrasive discs. Some stuff I did didn't help. I now put all angle in the saw with the point up. All square section goes in with a corner pointing up and down. Also cut some high tensile bar not knowing it was bad. On second blade I've looked after it better looking like it will certainly last as long as 20 good quality abrasives. It's a fantastic saw and a great addition to any workshop.
Just got recommended you channel thanks to TH-cam. For once the algorithm and stuff is correct. you are doing some good stuff man. I hope your channel gets bigger and you keep having fun. Thanks for sharing and I am enjoying your vidjas!
I built my entire metal shop using an abrasive-wheel chop saw from harbor freight. It worked okay. Now, I have a 14 inch Evolution and feel that shop could be built 10 times faster using this saw. Yes, it's THAT much better!
Great video. I think the best way to stop a table flexing like that is to add an H frame about 2/3 of the way down from the top. But your triangulation pieces will probably work well too because they're quite long.
The biggest negative of cold-cut saws for me personally is that my dog is pretty much always with me in the shop and even with the best chip collection system in the world they still tend to be messy and throw razor sharp shards of metal all over the place. I wouldn't want to be walking around on them barefoot and I doubt my dog does either. ....That's probably not a concern for most folks though :) --- Good quality blades are expensive for these so I'm not sure how the cost per cut stacks up against an abrasive chop saw, bandsaw or reciprocating saw. For speed and the ability to get a clean and precise cuts they can't be beat though.
but the problem is of abrasive disc, that black dust is unhealty especially for animals which usually dont wear masks :). i close my worksspace when i work, then o clean/vaccum the floor so the cats can pass.
I have an AGP version of the your saw. I haven't tried railway line, so thanks for that. My first experience with the technology was in about 2001 a Makita . With the workers I had in the shop, I couldn't keep blades up to it. I forgot about the whole idea until last year when I decided to give one a try, no regrets. I don't know how practical this is bit I'm interested in what you can safely and economically cut with it. I have kept my abrasive saw for stuff I think may damage the blade. I also have a large horizontal / vertical bandsaw for big stuff.
I guess you just got lucky? Since I spotted a conversion videu in my home feed from abrasive to toothed blade. After watching that I saw your video. having watched it I looked at suggestions beneath and it looks like every chook and his dog have posted on the Evolution saw topic. I got luck in this too since the railway iron cut, being so interesting answered some major concerns I had developed. I've got a blade on the way for my cold cut saw and big round bar I have to section. It may be just fine after all for this saw to tackle? I have a dual V belt drive here, so a change of pulley and swapped to a 4 pole motor fixes the speed issue. I do not want to see sparks!
Hi. Thanks for the great content. I work in the US, and live in South Africa. So what I want to know, is will this cold cut saw disassemble? I want to remove the base from the motor and pack it in my checked luggage and reassemble it at home. Does it look like the pivoting point can be taken apart and reassembled in your opinion?
Thanks for your post. I would like to ask about your Evolution cut-off saw. Have you tried cutting thick square tube with it? Does the blade last on say, 1/8" thick steel tube? I have wasted a bunch of money on blades, trying to find a good solution for cutting, accurately and quickly. I bought an Evolution 10" carbide blade for one of my regular miter saws (5200 rpm blade). It dry cut the 1/8" thick 2" x 3" tube fine for 3 cuts and then was dull. That was a waste of around $80!! I went to Lowe's and bought the only 10" steel cutting blade they carried (DeWalt) and it lasted 3 cuts (even trying to use a spray lube. A waste of another $70!!! I had an old, (not dull) steel cutting blade and it only lasted three cuts on 3" x 3" 1/8" wall tubing. I was just wondering how the slower cold cut Evolution saw does on thick tubing. Thank you. DW
I'm still using the same blade that came with the saw. Even after cutting all the stuff in the video and the RR track, it still cuts 1/8" mild steel tube like it was new. You aren't trying to cut hardened steel are you?
@@MakingStuff I don't think it's hardened steel. I can cut it just fine on my Harbor Freight horizontal bandsaw. The tubes I have problem with are 1/8" thick, 3" x 3" welded steel square tubing. They cut great the first 3 cuts (I even wiped the tubes down with lacquer thinner). But the 4th was impossible. The blade just sits on top of the flat side of the tubing and will not cut, anymore. Some people have suggested cutting them on diagonal but that is almost impossible with a 10" blade and I would have to make a custom clamp setup (which I can do, but it's kinda stupid...). My small Kobalt sliding miter (7 1/4"), seems to do OK with 1/16" thick 1-1/2" square tubing but I actually used a spray lube. I had so much trouble with the bigger tubing, I didn't want to ruin another blade. I'm guessing the slower cutting saws are the only answer...
@@MakingStuff Letting your freak flag fly? Iam a feared that I judge by the cover, if a middle age man thinks he is fooling everybody with long hair or a man bun I don't have time for them. In sales , presentation is every thing.
Hi Bob, I’v just taken ownership of my identical chop saw. It is very impressive with shifting metal but there is a disturbing vibration with the blade bouncing up and down whilst cutting, leaving linear streaks on the cut surface. When you are pushing down on the handle, does it feel smooth or rough? Cheers.
ordered this saw, based on this and some other reviews. Evolution S380CPS: Metal Cutting Chop Saw THe saw arrived DEFECTIVE,, the "lock" used to change the blade does not work. As there is not blade installed, it was a complete show stopper... How could a simple thing like this get missed ?
I saw a shoot out on YT with a Evolution vs Diablo metal blade, which IIRC is only $35 or so. Seems like it would be worth it to get an old chop saw and just toss a Diablo blade on it and have something pretty decent.
i have their Evo380 saw. it it does not have the locking pins which made it awful for cutting angles...like really awful..It figures they would upgrade after i bought one ...they doo cut like butter tho....nice review
I was a 1/10th the thickness of a baby hair away from getting this saw after watching countless reviews. Until a few guys mentioned the cost of the blade and how quickly you will need a new one. Went with the horizontal bandsaw instead. I mean, the metal chips alone would have been an issue vs the bandsaw dust that easy to clean up.
People run it dry, it kills the blade faster. Run it with coolant, haven't changed the blade for 2 years now and it cuts same as the day i bought only maybe few second longer each cut.
Ever since I saw Frank Howarth cut steel tube with a Sawzall and diy miter jig, I've gone off chop saws. I'm sure they're great to have but now it's definitely moved down on my wishlist.
It's a good saw but I have switched over to the S355MCS which I think is the best one they make. th-cam.com/video/h2UolfDERKM/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
If you can avoid it, then never cut angle iron like that. If vibration or just a bad clamping makes it flip you are in all sorts of trouble. On a bandsaw you risk ruining the blade, on a cut off saw like this things might go flying. Find some wood that is larger than the leg of the angle iron and clamp on that. More secure clamping and less vibrations, which translates to less wear on the blade and more safe cutting. The wood (or whatever) is also good for turning the angle iron and allow for 45 degree cuts in more than one direction.
You cut that railtie two or three more times and your blade would be toast. All those sparks are the higher carbon in the steel. And your pipe rotated at the end of your cut. If that happened while you were cutting at an angle you would have lost about three teeth on that blade.
It looks that he was given the same saw and kit of metal to cut as other “reviewers” have been given lately. I wonder how many saws they’ve given away recently? Doesn’t anyone read manuals anymore? They should. Nobody knows everything.
Very underated channel in my opinion. Thank you for your continuous contributions to "open source" education.
Also, I'm impressed at your willingness to spill about having to take a bit to look at the saw because of the mitre issue. Keep on keeping on!
Just bought this saw and I feel it makes my garage shop more complete for metal working.
I'm really glad that I saw this video before I went out and purchased the DeWalt. Cutting the railroad track was very impressive.
Great video. With so many videos trying to be so hip I appreciate your lack of bs.
I appreciate that!
I've just purchased this chopsaw its amazing,,it cuts steel like a hot knife through butter
Same here, Just unboxed it!
How tall are the vice jaw faces?
@@ekimnamdets6946 8.5cm
I have this and the Dewalt metal blade chop saw and the Evolution is way better than the Dewalt at $150-200 less
What is the country of origin?
I bought one of these because of your video. It did not disappoint. This thing cut through 1/4” metal quick and with very clean results. Thanks for the great video. My metal working is now much easier and more enjoyable.
Great to hear!
Just a tip for these metal cutting chop saws: Try and avoid cutting flats in a horizontal orientation if you can avoid it because it puts extra wear on the blade ($$$$). The less meat the tooth has to travel through the better. For example cut the angle iron with the corner pointing straight up, and cut the flat plate with it's side vertical rather than flat on the saw base. It'll cut much quicker. For really thick stuff like that rail road tie I would still try to use your band saw.
Thanks for the info!
I've also seen where they use that attachment to hold square tube in a diamond position so the blade never has to go thru 2 flat sections.
@@Robon2ndShift You could also use a piece of angle to tip the large flat bar up on a 45, vs having it flat.
Even the angle iron should be turned over so it never cuts a flat. Thats what the piece that slides over the clamp is for. I just got one of these and it is incredible. I have been cutting 2x2x3/16 and the Evolution saw cuts it with less pressure than my Milwaukee Chop Saw with a new blade to cut a 2x4 piece of wood. Liked it so much I bought the circular saw too and cut 3/16 plate. Wear long sleeves, a good face shield, gloves and a hat. Throws the chips even with the shop vac hooked to it but precise, smooth and fast.
John Pyle I bought this saw a few weeks ago and it’s amazing. Cuts like butter, angles are perfectly square. Highly recommend this saw over the steel base or Rage models
Thank you for the review!!!! We have had this saw for several years in our shop and gone thru many blades. It has cut unbelievable amounts of steel. We also have the EVOSAW230, and have gone thru 2 saws. We had a problem with a new 230 saw, (maybe it got dropped...don't know what happened) and Evolution took care of the problem under warranty, great customer service! Yes the chips can be annoying, but the cuts are way better than what we call the "sparky" type chop saw. The saw cuts faster than sparky. Actually surprised our saw has lasted this long, as it goes thru severe use. We do need to upgrade the 380 saw as ours has cut so much steel it is starting to cut a bit off square. Your review is spot on, and thanks again!!!
Just curious as to about how many cuts you get out of a blade?
@@tomruth9487 not sure, we use the saw constantly. In fact, we are going to purchase another, for a different location in our shop. thanks
I got my Evo saw a little over a year ago and I love it. I wish I had always had one.
watching this video on 760p60 it's SO clear. must be a top of the range camera! Great video!
Just a 1080 Panasonic Camcorder. Thanks for watching!
Sweet saw Bob. Would make a nice addition to my shop!
Wow, I can't believe it cut the railroad tie! Good video.
Thanks for watching!
How long will the blade last?
Evolution says it will last as long as 20 abrasive discs. Of course I don't know yet, because I just got this one.
I have one of these saws for over 2 years. On my second blade now. First one I would say lasted about as long as maybe 12-15 abrasive discs. Some stuff I did didn't help. I now put all angle in the saw with the point up. All square section goes in with a corner pointing up and down. Also cut some high tensile bar not knowing it was bad. On second blade I've looked after it better looking like it will certainly last as long as 20 good quality abrasives. It's a fantastic saw and a great addition to any workshop.
Brian Byrne thanks for the reply.
but the question is are 20 abrasive disc more expensive the the saw blade?
does anyone have the rpices at hand?
@@hyperhektor7733 abrasives are 10 to 12 a piece. This blade is about 125.
Just got recommended you channel thanks to TH-cam. For once the algorithm and stuff is correct. you are doing some good stuff man. I hope your channel gets bigger and you keep having fun. Thanks for sharing and I am enjoying your vidjas!
Awesome, thank you!
Best review yet mate ,Short sweet and Strat to the point . :)
Glad you liked it
I bought this saw because you cut that railroad track like a joke...thanks...i love when tools really get tested to the max
I built my entire metal shop using an abrasive-wheel chop saw from harbor freight. It worked okay. Now, I have a 14 inch Evolution and feel that shop could be built 10 times faster using this saw. Yes, it's THAT much better!
Yeah I got rid of my abrasive saw too. The Evolution is so much better and faster.
I am amazed how quickly that cuts.
Great Review video on the Evo saw, Thanks. Got to be impressed the way it cut through that rail road track !!!
Glad you liked it!
Great video. I think the best way to stop a table flexing like that is to add an H frame about 2/3 of the way down from the top. But your triangulation pieces will probably work well too because they're quite long.
I don't want to use an H frame. The reason why will be revealed in a future episode. Thanks for watching!
The biggest negative of cold-cut saws for me personally is that my dog is pretty much always with me in the shop and even with the best chip collection system in the world they still tend to be messy and throw razor sharp shards of metal all over the place. I wouldn't want to be walking around on them barefoot and I doubt my dog does either.
....That's probably not a concern for most folks though :)
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Good quality blades are expensive for these so I'm not sure how the cost per cut stacks up against an abrasive chop saw, bandsaw or reciprocating saw. For speed and the ability to get a clean and precise cuts they can't be beat though.
but the problem is of abrasive disc, that black dust is unhealty especially for animals which usually dont wear masks :). i close my worksspace when i work, then o clean/vaccum the floor so the cats can pass.
Building a CNC now and this would have came in real handy last week. Still impressive.
I have an AGP version of the your saw. I haven't tried railway line, so thanks for that. My first experience with the technology was in about 2001 a Makita . With the workers I had in the shop, I couldn't keep blades up to it. I forgot about the whole idea until last year when I decided to give one a try, no regrets. I don't know how practical this is bit I'm interested in what you can safely and economically cut with it. I have kept my abrasive saw for stuff I think may damage the blade. I also have a large horizontal / vertical bandsaw for big stuff.
I guess you just got lucky? Since I spotted a conversion videu in my home feed from abrasive to toothed blade. After watching that I saw your video. having watched it I looked at suggestions beneath and it looks like every chook and his dog have posted on the Evolution saw topic. I got luck in this too since the railway iron cut, being so interesting answered some major concerns I had developed. I've got a blade on the way for my cold cut saw and big round bar I have to section. It may be just fine after all for this saw to tackle? I have a dual V belt drive here, so a change of pulley and swapped to a 4 pole motor fixes the speed issue. I do not want to see sparks!
Cool and clear video
Have a regular chop saw...may need to upgrade thanks to you...LOL
I want to buy one of these please
any option??? I am in New Zealand
Hi. Thanks for the great content. I work in the US, and live in South Africa. So what I want to know, is will this cold cut saw disassemble? I want to remove the base from the motor and pack it in my checked luggage and reassemble it at home. Does it look like the pivoting point can be taken apart and reassembled in your opinion?
Thanks for your post. I would like to ask about your Evolution cut-off saw. Have you tried cutting thick square tube with it? Does the blade last on say, 1/8" thick steel tube? I have wasted a bunch of money on blades, trying to find a good solution for cutting, accurately and quickly. I bought an Evolution 10" carbide blade for one of my regular miter saws (5200 rpm blade). It dry cut the 1/8" thick 2" x 3" tube fine for 3 cuts and then was dull. That was a waste of around $80!!
I went to Lowe's and bought the only 10" steel cutting blade they carried (DeWalt) and it lasted 3 cuts (even trying to use a spray lube.
A waste of another $70!!!
I had an old, (not dull) steel cutting blade and it only lasted three cuts on 3" x 3" 1/8" wall tubing.
I was just wondering how the slower cold cut Evolution saw does on thick tubing.
Thank you.
DW
I'm still using the same blade that came with the saw. Even after cutting all the stuff in the video and the RR track, it still cuts 1/8" mild steel tube like it was new. You aren't trying to cut hardened steel are you?
@@MakingStuff I don't think it's hardened steel. I can cut it just fine on my Harbor Freight horizontal bandsaw. The tubes I have problem with are 1/8" thick, 3" x 3" welded steel square tubing.
They cut great the first 3 cuts (I even wiped the tubes down with lacquer thinner). But the 4th was impossible. The blade just sits on top of the flat side of the tubing and will not cut, anymore.
Some people have suggested cutting them on diagonal but that is almost impossible with a 10" blade and I would have to make a custom clamp setup (which I can do, but it's kinda stupid...).
My small Kobalt sliding miter (7 1/4"), seems to do OK with 1/16" thick 1-1/2" square tubing but I actually used a spray lube. I had so much trouble with the bigger tubing, I didn't want to ruin another blade. I'm guessing the slower cutting saws are the only answer...
Damn ate that tie like butter
Will this cut thick high carbon steel?
So do you think you could test something that cuts hair?
I'll cut my hair when I get 1 million subs. At the current rate that will be the year 2084. 😁
@@MakingStuff Letting your freak flag fly? Iam a feared that I judge by the cover, if a middle age man thinks he is fooling everybody with long hair or a man bun I don't have time for them. In sales , presentation is every thing.
Looks like a heck of a saw. Pretty sure I Menard's sells it for 279 versus the 439 in the Jungle link
Mine arrived today 😁😊.
Awesome!
Nice . I remember your bandsaw build from awhile back. The Evo is definitely a couple steps up but them blades are pricey
Thanks!
Hi Bob, I’v just taken ownership of my identical chop saw. It is very impressive with shifting metal but there is a disturbing vibration with the blade bouncing up and down whilst cutting, leaving linear streaks on the cut surface. When you are pushing down on the handle, does it feel smooth or rough? Cheers.
It's a smooth cut.
ordered this saw, based on this and some other reviews. Evolution S380CPS: Metal Cutting Chop Saw THe saw arrived DEFECTIVE,, the "lock" used to change the blade does not work. As there is not blade installed, it was a complete show stopper... How could a simple thing like this get missed ?
I just purchased one and its awsum.
Thanks for watching!
Does the blade last long?
Yes, if you take care of it.
I saw a shoot out on YT with a Evolution vs Diablo metal blade, which IIRC is only $35 or so. Seems like it would be worth it to get an old chop saw and just toss a Diablo blade on it and have something pretty decent.
The chop saw spins too fast for the Evolution blades.
I read the reviews and I know you haven't had it long enough to know how long a blade will last. My question is, can the blade be sharpened? Thanks.
It's carbide, so probably not.
Thanks!
No problem!
how long does this metal cutting blade last? The Orange color blade from Evolution is crap for cutting metal.
Evoultion claims that it will last as long as 20 abrasive discs. I just got this one, so I don't know for sure.
Trust me guys I did exactly the same thing , it cuts absolutely accurately , wouldn’t have anything else
i have their Evo380 saw. it it does not have the locking pins which made it awful for cutting angles...like really awful..It figures they would upgrade after i bought one ...they doo cut like butter tho....nice review
I love the "demo", just did a cut and drop the cut off piece you your bare hand! Not something you'd do with an abrasive wheel cut piece!
Great video, I’m from Australia. Can anyone help me with some info where I can get my hands on one of these?
There is a link in the description.
I was a 1/10th the thickness of a baby hair away from getting this saw after watching countless reviews. Until a few guys mentioned the cost of the blade and how quickly you will need a new one. Went with the horizontal bandsaw instead. I mean, the metal chips alone would have been an issue vs the bandsaw dust that easy to clean up.
People run it dry, it kills the blade faster.
Run it with coolant, haven't changed the blade for 2 years now and it cuts same as the day i bought only maybe few second longer each cut.
So cool! I’ve been looking at these lately. Was considering getting one. I think you sold me the railroad tie pushed me over the edge.
Ever since I saw Frank Howarth cut steel tube with a Sawzall and diy miter jig, I've gone off chop saws. I'm sure they're great to have but now it's definitely moved down on my wishlist.
Saludos desde México ecxelente herramienta para el trabajo rudo dónde se puede adquirir gracias y bendiciones
Should note that the saw ships with a 14" blade ... the 15" is sold separably for a substantial ransom
and that 15" blade cost a huge amount more then the 14" blades.
You're exaggerating, it's not that much. You just have to have a 6 figure job and sacrifice your first born.
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How is the base and the accuracy of the fence for 45’s?
Complete dogshit like the S355CPSL or better and more substantial?
It's a good saw but I have switched over to the S355MCS which I think is the best one they make. th-cam.com/video/h2UolfDERKM/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
If you can avoid it, then never cut angle iron like that. If vibration or just a bad clamping makes it flip you are in all sorts of trouble. On a bandsaw you risk ruining the blade, on a cut off saw like this things might go flying.
Find some wood that is larger than the leg of the angle iron and clamp on that. More secure clamping and less vibrations, which translates to less wear on the blade and more safe cutting. The wood (or whatever) is also good for turning the angle iron and allow for 45 degree cuts in more than one direction.
Thanks for the info!
What did I just see !? Damn ... cut that plate steel and a freakin' rail !
Hey hope you get good life out of blade. Expensive so they must go the distance. Wow blades even for SS 304. Great tool to have.
GO to Indonesia.. 👍👍👍👍
No entendí nada de lo que dijiste pero buen video 👍🏽👍🏽
Gracias!
You cut that railtie two or three more times and your blade would be toast. All those sparks are the higher carbon in the steel. And your pipe rotated at the end of your cut. If that happened while you were cutting at an angle you would have lost about three teeth on that blade.
It’ll colitis through rail road track like it’s a hot knife through butter
I really like the saw but the blades just don't last! Going to the curb let some one else support the habit
Zato nema ista na hrvatskim jezikom?
And you can buy a new angle grinder for the same price as that saw blade which you'll be eating through like lightning.
Your referral links to the EVOSAW380 for $379, but it looks like you are using the CPS model for $439. EVOSAW380CPS
That’s an itty bitty rail track
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more like revolution chop saw
Yeah but the blade get hot worps
It looks that he was given the same saw and kit of metal to cut as other “reviewers” have been given lately. I wonder how many saws they’ve given away recently? Doesn’t anyone read manuals anymore? They should. Nobody knows everything.
Junk! I bought one they don’t last very long. The hing became loose causing the blade to slide over making a ruffle cut!
Machine dumper
Liked the vid, didn't like the clickbait.
for me its the opposite, so we are breakeven
I like both of my Evolution saws, just can't stand the look of your hair, cut it this is the 21st century!! LOL
What a douche canoe...
A great video that shows how NOT to cut. DO NOT cut into the flat side of the material. DO the exact opposite of what this guy does
How long does the blades last?
Supposed to be 20 times longer than an abrasive disc. But I just got this one so it will be a while before I know for sure.