Lisa Brenninkmeyer | The Unexpected Conversion of a Happy Evangelical
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- Lisa Brenninkmeyer delivered this talk, "The Unexpected Conversion of a Happy Evangelical”, at the 2021 Defending the Faith Steubenville Conference.
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Lisa, your Evangelical upbringing is very apparent in your testimony. God bless you! I’m glad you have persevered in the Catholic Church.
Dear Lisa I cannot thank you enough . I found you on Hallow and listen every day now
I have experienced so much of everything you have just mentioned even though I am a cradle Catholic. You are so inspirational ,thank you for preserving and staying with Catholics!! ❤
6/7/23: I started crying as I was listening to this video. Beautiful 💜I’m a Catholic but just don’t know how to learn and evangelize about my faith
Dear Lisa, you are truly blessed. Thank you for sharing! Thank you for saying yes to God and helping us all ❤️ God bless you
Thank you SO much! I came into the Catholic Church late, in my mid-fifties, not through any profound experience. I simply made a decision that I wanted to live my life with faith. It’s been about 7 years since my baptism. I still find the Catholic Church unwelcoming and I’ve yet to make one Catholic friend. It’s been a very lonely journey and, honestly, I’ve given up. I haven’t been to Mass since before COVID (about 3 years). She endured so much and stayed in there. My resolve has been weak, but her talk has inspired me to go back to Mass and to keep trying to connect.
Welcome home! You have 1 Catholic in me!!!
Just stay. People are people and sometimes You have to swallow your pride and be the Bigger person and approach them.
Go and look for Jesus, He welcomes you! He is there in the Eucharist, Mary, the saints and angels! What else do you want?
Make Jesus your best Friend.
To find a real friend is to find a treasure and Jesus is not only a treasure but salvation.
Going to Mass is to have relation with Jesus and going home for me, but I join Catholic groups to connect with other Catholics? Joining retreats?. Like St Vincent de Paul, Legion of Mary, be volunteering helping out the church?
Thank you.
This is very encouraging to be able to have listened to your testimony and understanding of your faith in the holy spirit.
Thank you, Lisa! I am a cradle Catholic and have been very fortunate to have belonged to 3 AMAZING parishes in Canada. I am also a retired Catholic school educator in the province of Alberta, where Catholic education is still publicly funded. Over the course of my career, I have been connected to various different parishes - each of our schools are connected to a parish (some parishes have more than 10 schools) where students attend Mass at least twice per month - and we have had a small handful of adversarial priests. It's heartbreaking, particularly when we're trying to bring our children closer to the Faith. On a hopeful note, we have 10 to 12 priests attend the school for Reconciliation 3 times per year for Grades 4 - 9 students. It's very powerful and I pray that our model of Catholic education is an inspiration to so many who have had negative experiences. I commend you for your authenticity and perseverance and I pray that our Alberta example gives others hope. God bless!
@@edtrent3789 In my experience, the attributes of publicly funded Catholic education far outweigh the drawbacks. Yes, there is always concern over government interference, but we've handled that quite well. This whole Woke agenda is definitely causing interference. Very sad.
Hi from Red Deer!
@@david2theKay Red Deer actually has one of the best Catholic teacher training program. I've had several student teachers from there :)
@@kellilavigne1023 sadly friend, catholicism and Christianity aren't the same. only the Word of God can prove this though.
while it's your right to choose, please understand that Truth invites investigation ~ while catholicism runs from It.
Your witness is so powerful! Sometimes, we face blockages in our lives, and it’s so easy to check out, and walk away. Your love for Jesus, and the truth is a testament to his disruptive grace!
Beautiful testimony, very encouraging and eloquently preached. God bless u and ur family and ur ministry. ✝️🙏❤️🇨🇦
Beautiful story❤️❤️❤️ need to spread the Truth of our Holy Mother Church, 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Lisa, your evangelical upbringing is still very strong and apparent when I listen to you in Hallow app. I came from charismatic evangelical churches and I could not fit in there. Never did. There is always something don’t quite sit right with the spirit of the Holy Scripture. I love being a Catholic as I am taught to be outward focus. That means I focus on the Church as a whole and my family/s is part of the Church. It takes away the division in my heart as a mother.
I thank you for you continuing to stay with the True Church. His Church. The Church He is returning to and for. Amen.
Truly a breath of fresh air, a timely message of encouragement for me ❤
Blessings to you, Lisa! Thank you for sharing your testimony!
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I stumbled across this and found it wonderful. What an inspiring talk Lisa.
She's awesome!!! I want more talks from her!!
What an amazing talk!! So glad I clicked on it!!
What a woman! An authentic Catholic. Thanks Lisa. Our Blessed Mother will always intercede for you.
Do you realize that there is only one who intercedes for you and that it is not Mary?
This one of those sticky points that denominational people would have to compromise what they read in God's word the scriptures to accept that which the scriptures do not say at all.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 do you realize that asking others to pray for you is exactly that, asking an intercessor to pray for you?
@@srich7503 Yes and the point I have tried to make is the intercessor or the person praying for you is ALIVE , not passed on and their spirit in the heavenly realm.
James 5:16 points out that the prayer of a righteous person avails much and in context with praying one for another as well as confession of sins for healing , this points to living people not formerly alive believers now residing in the spiritual realm as if they are more righteous than those alive.
@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Luke 1:48 says about Mary - “From no on all generations will call me blessed”. Have you done so Bruce? If not why not? If so why if she has not passed on, if she is not alive? Also, are not the “great a cloud of witnesses” not alive since we are “surrounded by them” in Heb 12:1? Why would Mary not be in this “great crowd”? Lastly Bruce, what makes your interpretation of scripture the correct interpretation among the thousands of others in the world? Is it the infallible one? If not the who really cares?
@@srich7503 Luke 1:48 says about Mary - “From no on all generations will call me blessed”. Have you done so Bruce?
Yes I have Mary is the most blessed woman in all of history.
I also read the scriptures and they give me 20 verses pointing out Mary by name. None of those verses in scripture point to Mary as being anything more than the mother of Jesus her firstborn , mother of her other children by her husband Joseph as recorded in the gospels of Mark and Matthew , and she is the most blessed woman in all of history.
No BVM
No Assumption
No sinless birth
No intercessory status
No prayers to or asking Mary to do anything
No scripture that claims Mary had power over her son to command Him to do anything
If so why if she has not passed on, if she is not alive?
Eph 2:6 points out God places the spirit of the individual who has been born again in the heavenly realm with Jesus . So Yes Mary is Alive in the heavenly realm with Jesus .
Also, are not the “great a cloud of witnesses” not alive since we are “surrounded by them” in Heb 12:1?
Yes the crowd of witnesses are Alive in the heavenly realm with Jesus
Now that we have established that Mary and all the believers in Christ who have passed on and are now that great crowd of witnesses in the heavenly realm , I would like to ask you to show in scripture any hint of the witnesses in the heavenly realm
1. being prayed to
2. asked to do anything
3. having anything to do with helping the living
4. conveying any prayers as if they are more righteous than we as believers are?
Lastly Bruce, what makes your interpretation of scripture the correct interpretation among the thousands of others in the world?
I look at scripture and context to decide what scripture says . I am not in dispute with everything the roman Catholic church teaches ,only SOME false doctrines that it promotes. I am also in dispute for SOME false doctrines ,that denominations teach .
Just how much of the scriptures do you read and need interpretation for? All major doctrines are set in stone and minor disputes over tattoo's, hair length , head coverings , are not going to cause loss of salvation which is far more important.
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾God bless you.
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I am beyond happy to find this video, Lisa. I left the Catholic Church for a Bible based church. I’ve never heard a Catholic speak out scripture like this! ❤️
Oh nooooo come back
Read anything by Scott Hahn..or anything connected to Franciscan University of Steubenville.
Hi Dawn, even if Catholics are not in the habit of parroting off verses from Scripture, which we kind of do by paraphrasing, I am here speaking for myself, I found that as well intentioned as Bible Evangelical Christians might be, one must ask oneself do I really want to leave the Church Christ founded that has her roots in the Apostles, number one, and number two, do I want to leave the mass with the pinnacle of Her worship in the Eucharist? Besides, there are other factors that I also could not put behind me when being assailed by these well meaning lovers of Christ in His word, Our Lady and St. Joseph or the Pope!! Too much fullness and beauty in devotions, feast days, schools, hospitals, hospices named after Catholic saints and charisms that are called upon to have in their honour, to have left the Church Christ wanted, and He did want His Church to be ONE. Let's not forget the Priesthood, without whom we cannot have the mass or the Eucharist. We must seriously recall the vocation and what men give up, as well as the other ones of monastic life etc.
I also recalled in my foggy way because we don't parrot off stuff as I say, that Christ wept in the Garden of Getsemani tears and sweat of blood, not only for what He would suffer on the cross but that His Church would be ONE. We have the gift of free will and I guess He more than anyone knows that we can choose to stay close to the 'vine' or leave the original vine for another one, and if we are not well versed in the teachings of the Church, can opt for one coated in suave talk and rock n' roll music to draw accolytes. I was having none of it. Does a pastor who wields a bible have the same charism/power/gift as a consecrated priest? I asked myself? No, he can't by virtue of being removed from Apostolic Succession and the laying on of hands...God bless you on your journey.
Hi Dawn, , one must ask oneself do I really want to leave the Church Christ founded that has her roots in the Apostles,
this is a misconception as there is only one church and to leave roman Catholicism is not leaving the church.
do I want to leave the mass with the pinnacle of Her worship in the Eucharist?
Do I want to re-crucify Christ in the eucharist or to accept that Jesus died once and for all the sins I have done , am doing ,and will do. Knowing I am totally forgiven and that my salvation is complete in Jesus .
Besides, there are other factors that I also could not put behind me when being assailed by these well meaning lovers of Christ in His word, Our Lady and St. Joseph or the Pope!!
being assailed by these well meaning lovers of Christ in His word, Our Lady and St. Joseph or the Pope!!
WhatIi find interesting about this statement is the complete lack of any scripture to form a basis of your belief. Joseph was the father of the other children of the former virgin Mary the mother of Jesus .Matthew and Mark both record the children of Mary by her husband and yet there is not one mention of Mary being the BVM , assumption , being without sin , or of her interceding with the saints , ever recorded in scripture ?
Too much fullness and beauty in devotions, feast days, schools, hospitals, hospices named after Catholic saints and charisms that are called upon to have in their honour, to have left the Church Christ wanted, and He did want His Church to be ONE.
Again no believer is capable of leaving the church, as there is only one church. The believer can leave a denomination or the roman Catholic church to seek the truth that the bible clearly shows ,as God's word to us. 2 Tim 3:15-17
Let's not forget the Priesthood, without whom we cannot have the mass or the Eucharist.
here is something that i would like you to show in scripture where the priesthood is kept from the old covenant and brought into the new. The old testament priesthood would stand in the temple sacrificing animals for redemption of sins by the people and yet in the new testament we have NO Priests but we do have Jesus who has placed Himself as our complete sacrifice for sins ,once and for all. There is no longer any reason to have priests in the new testament times. Jesus fulfilled the law and sat down whereas the priests who stood in the temple were never allowed to sit down showing an incomplete sacrifice for sins in the old covenant.
that His Church would be ONE. We have the gift of free will and I guess He more than anyone knows that we can choose to stay close to the 'vine' or leave the original vine for another one
Whereas I agree that God never wanted division in the church , we have that as any Orthodox / roman Catholic/ denomination clearly shows.
There is only one church and to leave a denomination / orthodox/roman Catholic church is NOT leaving the church ! Eph 2:19-22
, and if we are not well versed in the teachings of the Church,
If we are well versed in the teachings of the church ? what about being well versed in God's word the scriptures that the church is supposed to be holding up as truth to a fallen world? Oh right I forgot , the roman Catholic church tells the world that it has the authority and thus can go beyond scripture for it's truth!
Please read the whole New Testament... you will find no popes, no cathedrals, no Statues, no Marian dogmas, no prayers to dead saints, No Vatican, No wafers, No fancy Robes, No Christian thrones.
Please Follow Jesus and Him Alone.
Does a pastor who wields a bible have the same charism/power/gift as a consecrated priest? I asked myself? No, he can't by virtue of being removed from Apostolic Succession and the laying on of hands...
Does anyone filled with the Spirit have the same power of a roman Catholic priest who teaches what the church says over what the scriptures say? Yes .
1Tim 3:1-15 these are the qualifications of those in authority over us in the church.
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@@brucewmclaughlin9072 Christ only wanted One unified church. Say what you want but that’s humans not asking what Jesus wants
Preach it! Powerful message and one our clergy need to take to heart. So many Catholics are leaving in droves to find bible teaching churches. We need to bring our bibles to mass and start opening the word of God as the ones it really was written for!
Scripture is read during mass, Missal are provided.
Please do attend one of our Sunday masses at least once so you can have a little if not more understanding of the Catholic Church.
Sandy V - almost every word in the Mass is taken from the Bible so why do people leave to find bible teaching?
They are leaving because they don't know their faith. Protestants are leaving also. They have the bible and misinterpret it.
@@ramonam9251
It’s not enough. Bills Graham read 5 psalms a day and 1 ch of proverbs that I also do.
It’s a daily walk. Not always easy but the Word was one of which when I got save, devoured the word like eating a big meal.I was so hungry coming out of the Catholic Church. I am married to a Catholic man and he is exemplary in his commitment to God. But I know he finds it hard to read the word.
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Love Lisa's energy and excitement about the Gospel message. I would appreciate her reference to a TH-cam, article or book that explains her Bible study teaching on "Faith Alone." As we all know, this phrase is a hot button from the Reformation and the source of much debate between Catholics and Protestants. Thanks!
TH-cam channel " Our Father"s Plan
@@riacaritas2934 Thanks! I will check it out.
Is she talking about sola fide ? I am a little confused now.
Thank You Lisa B.! God Bless You!
I’m a convert to Catholicism from Orthodox Church but have recently questioned my decision of nine years ago?!
There is something off about this lady’s testimony. The phrases “God’s truth” and “Jesus alone” have to be defined by the person using them so the hearer can measure them in light of Church teaching. It is not surprising two or three priests on different occasions told her to knock it off. Which brings up another observation, a lack of Christian humility can make one prideful. It seems others have noted this saying she retains some Evangelical mannerisms.
I hafta say this talk stands out from other Catholic productions and can make your skin crawl.
First convert I'm definitely not impressed with. She seems to have her own agenda.
I am sorry but I have to say yea here. I do listen to her on Hallow app. But today one of hers on hallow app made me question if she was a Protestant convert. And my spirit knows. So I found her over here and it made me feel rather sad. If possible, please pray the divine mercy Chaplet for this beautiful mama. I like her but, I am not sure about the teachings. Our Lady prays for her. Xx
Lisa, I hope you may be able to show us various devotion to Our Lady in your Bible study writings. Hail Mary full of Grace the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women. And blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us sinner now and the out of our death. Amen.
This is so inspiring!
I see another rising star in the Catholic church... I will pray more women join your grupo. God bless you.
BRAVO!!!!❤👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🕊✝️❤⛪
This lady is obviously very dedicated and sincere, but she is coming across as a dedicated Evangelical.
Her talk could have been presented to, and welcomed by, any group of people of any denomination that promotes Sola Scriptura.
I have been to Bible Classes led by laity and heard some dangerously heretical ideas promoted, and people left those lessons believing that it's permissible to invite non-Catholics, in the spirit of "charity", to receive Holy Communion with us, and that we can pray to the Holy Spirit and request a gift of our choice, healing, preaching, tongues !!!
It's just a matter of inviting Him into our hearts!
Since the organizer of the group was a prominent parishioner, very influential in most of the parish groups, and very charismatic, my objections went nowhere.
But the thing that really disturbs me is the litany of..
I DECLARE !
????
When I read the Holy Bible my response is..
I BELIEVE, I ACCEPT !
Al H, Interesting comment. Yes, I see what you mean.
I heard her name on a You Tube program mentioned by three Cath men, two are priests. It us called "the Catholic Talk Show." They are trying to be "comics." But they come across as disrespectful by mocking lay people. One of the clergymen is harshly critical of lay people, he was especially putting down lay women speaking or teaching about the Bible, such as the speaker here we are listening to. The moderators have bobble head toys representing Jesus, the pope, Mary, mother T., St. Patrick. It seems irreverent and condescending.
I have not studied Lisa's Bible study. She said 450,000 women have participated. Therefore, there is a need for this. She said those who influenced her are former Evangelicals.
Her Bible study seems to be for younger Catholic married women with young children.
Something like this was/is needed for women. It fills a vacuum. There is more to the Church than Mass alone.
It is very difficult, it is heroic, for a woman to bear and raise 8 children as she has. A woman's children are literally bone of her bone and flesh of her flesh.
As for the "I declares," that might be a Protestant method. However, it seems acceptable. Maybe let's discern what is good and holy. Some religious sisters will present Jeff Cavins Bible study. But other than that, Catholics do not read and study the Epistles the way some Protestants do. There is a huge vacuum in Bible study in the Catholic Church. Priests are not trained to teach the Bible in the same way that Evangelicals embrace the Bible. It seems she performs a vital function and is a bridge between women and the Church. Most women who take her Bible study are younger married Catholic mothers with children. Let's not judge and let's look deeper into the actual material that is taught.
Yes. Do I have a story on this to share one day. A prominent Jesuit led my RCIA. I was so scandalized after the first meeting, I never went back. I've found another Parish I now attend and will be starting RCIA again later this year.
it seemed uncomfortably Sola Scriptura. In the first half of her talk I was disappointed by the many priests and Catholics who did not help her in her journey. But after she learned from faithful Catholics, I am surprised that she did not even mention that the Bible is a Catholic book and that the Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH. She did not mention the EUCHARIST--GOD's REAL PRESENCE or the beauty of the mass. Whenever she is hurt (which is justified) her thought is ALWAYS to LEAVE the Church. How can you have that thought if you TRULY believe that this is GOD's CHURCH? How can you leave after knowing about the EUCHARIST. I hope that the last and "loving" priest she met truly guided her about the faith and did not only "affirm" her.
I skipped about 10-15 min going to the end because she is talking like a non-Catholic pastor :( I cringed in the I DECLARE part to be honest. I was also hoping she would mention that she now realizes why Catholics love Mary and that the statues are not a form of idolatry. It also made me uncomfortable when she said that we can read the scriptures and have different interpretations for it (paraphrasing here). By the end, based on this talk alone, I don't believe she has truly converted or that she is capable of DEFENDING THE CATHOLIC FAITH--which is the FOCUS of this conference.
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I agree.
And it concerns me that this is a lecture given at what claims to be a Catholic university.
@@alhilford2345 To be fair, Franciscan University of Steubenville is probably the most faithful and traditional Catholic educational institution in the world. Practically all the best Catholic faith defenders like Trent Horn, Jeff Cavins, Jason Evert, and a lot more graduated from this school. That said, my comments and observation about this speaker is based solely on this one talk. God bless :)
Jesus was born before the death of Herod in 4BC and there was a strong Christianity before the bible 400 years later, I listen to her and I hear the protestants who used scripture to obey Hitler when their Jewish neighbor tapped on their window, I hear those who used scripture to obey the communists while others spent 25 t\years in the labor camps. The Truth is the Church not an individual's interpretation on scripture when the gun comes up. I will go with the priests on her, We had people who died in Dachau for the church and those who who abandoned their neighbors for scripture. I stick with the church.scripture is 7,957 verses of get out jail words,I run from this protestant.
Jesus is Lord 💝
Need to hear from those person she mention like Scot Hahn, .... what their thoughts on this speech
I can see why the priest was confused with her it does sound like a evangelical message of salvation and a lot of the bible alone theory so to speak . Don’t get me wrong is getting people to study and meditate on the word of God . And she has finally found her home the one holy Catholic and apostolic church very blessed
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She still sounds protestant to me! Not even once she talked about adoration to the Eucharist, praying the rosary!
Scriptures are very important, but without the Sacraments , we get nowhere.
nonsense. no such thing as as yooookrist.
and only pagans and muslims pray with beads. and Jesus paid it all - no 'sacrament' necessary.
@@tony1685 😂😂😂
@@izamalaca and this is why you and yours remain lost - you haven't the integrity to have an actual discussion - as Scripture says Christians do.
So true. Why is she so Protestant ? Shooting verses declaring here and there. I have been there done that. It may get you to calm down. But that’s about it. I was not a nominal Christian. I am a full time volunteer as a church worker and pastor with zero income. Solely by faith. I know this road. It gets you no where without the sacraments. Scott Hahn’s books should be able to show her deeper. I am a little disappointed of the no reconciliation of her understanding of Our Lady’s role in her walk.
I admire her dedication and commitment to staying in the Church and in bringing others to the knowledge of Christ.
However, in all her troubles, I didn't hear anything about learning from the saints. In this presentation, at least, it seemed uncomfortably Sola Scriptura.
As someone in the process of becoming an ex Protestant, I too have had difficulties with Authorities.
However, while individual conscience has its place, Catholics must always remember that Scripture comes out of the Church that Christ founded. Personal interpretation must always be guided by the Catechism and Magisterium.
Not saying this applies to her but still, I've seen too many evangelicals come up with conflicting interpretations and insisting they're correct because of a personal relationship with Jesus; or, if challenged, resort to what seems to be a modern gnostic like variation of "my interpretation = my truth".
"it seemed uncomfortably Sola Scriptura."-- my thoughts exactly. In the first half of her talk I was disappointed by the many priests and Catholics who did not help her in her journey. But after she learned from faithful Catholics, I am surprised that she did not even mention that the Bible is a Catholic book and that the Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH. She did not mention the EUCHARIST--GOD's REAL PRESENCE or the beauty of the mass. Whenever she is hurt (which is justified) her thought is ALWAYS to LEAVE the Church. How can you have that thought if you TRULY believe that this is GOD's CHURCH? How can you leave after knowing about the EUCHARIST. I hope that the last and "loving" priest she met truly guided her about the faith and did not only "affirm" her.
I skipped about 10-15 min going to the end because she is talking like a non-Catholic pastor :( I was also hoping she would mention that she now realizes why Catholics love Mary and that the statues are not a form of idolatry. It also made me uncomfortable when she said that we can read the scriptures and have different interpretations for it (paraphrasing here). By the end, based on this talk alone, I don't believe she has truly converted or that she is capable of DEFENDING THE CATHOLIC FAITH--which is the FOCUS of this conference.
I also watched few of her YT, never mention true body and blood of Jesus Christ in Holy Eucharist and love for mother Mary. Never ask intercessor of mother Mary nor pray the Rosary. More I listen to her she sounds like Joel Osten. .
@@hcho7776 Who is promoting her to give speeches? Who is inviting her to discuss her "conversion" testimony.
"I declare that...." She still sounds very... Nevermind.
God's will be done.
Our Lady, pray for us.
@Bruce W McLaughlin the Pentecostal Churches pray with emotion and not all prayer needs to be, it can be objective and private without being slayed in the spirit. This is your drawcard. But the Church doesn't need to be so engrossed in the emotions. Private prayer too is not one that gets whipped up by music or persuasive talk of a glib preacher wherein the congregation calls out 'Yeah' or Halleluija' or whatever from the pews. One does not need to respond to a preacher reinforcing his persuasive talk. That is not the mass. For Catholics it is more an objective experience, not subjective. Please stop precising my explanations as though I am your student and you need to correct me. I am Catholic and leave it there please. I am constantly praying for Christian Unity though, as Christ would want.
Yeah right, you'd do well to read Matthew 7:21 @+ and Hebrews chapters 6 and 10.
Well that degenerated into New Age pretty quickly.
I'm not sure what you mean but it doesn't sound very christian to me
God Bless you anyway
@@hemsty2 I will clarify for you, then. Repeating affirmations that look to ourselves as the ultimate source (and using Scripture to achieve that goal) is not glorifying God. It is New Age navel gazing.
wow. keep speaking up against the coldness that can come from the militant rigidity of form.
Typical narrative becomes boring. Catholic church just offers its outmoded traditions, just like the royals in UK, people love traditions. Jesus brought no traditions,he abolished them and his cup of his blood of the new covenant is rejected by traditions. Jesus said same,the traditions of men make the word of God of no value.
5 mins in and it's all about a lusting lukewarm "Christian" with no remorse 🤢🤮
Like their mother Eve. Deceived by serpent.
@po18guy coward.
Christians have no problem discussing Truth - obviously you aren't.
How can 2 billion marians take the man made traditions over the very WORD of God. because it easier to just follow without truly seeking the truth. it is easier to go to a priest and ask his forgiveness, its so much sweeter to pray to mary for sins, than a tiring reading of the 66 books of the Bible. Because if you do read the bible, this pagan group are completely against the truth that is thought of by the bible. Their foundational LIE is that peter is the first pope, Jesus himself gave the keys of heaven to peter alone, he is the supreme apostle, the prince over the apostles. That very chapter if you read it did not say exactly that. Instead it clearly speaks of the "rock" as the very Gospel of Christ, not peter. Jesus was speaking to all the apostles not to peter alone. Not a single passage/chapter of the NT that substantiate that peter is supreme. How then can this group seduced 2 billions sold to their marianships? The love for truth is very hard to be accepted to the most evil among hearts, the human heart.
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@WeaponOfChoice What truth are you referring to ? What is the wrong thing I said ? You have got to be at least be specific. Siting a chapter does not really do you any good if you can not substantiate the points I tried to make.
@@music20204 he wrote: _'I do not engage trolls.'_ - meaning - _'I'm Bible illiterate and can't defend the nonsense i believe.'_
@WeaponOfChoice _'WeaponOfChoice'_ - did you know, the only offensive weapon in God's arsenal is the Sword of Truth? try educating yourself with It - It shows us that Truth invites investigation - 1 Thess 5:21
i was catholic 35 yrs. i grew tired of being Biblically illiterate.
sure i understand the 'catholic doctrines' - but even then i knew they weren't Biblically accurate.
grow up friend.
it's the only way you'll ever grow to know Truth.
if you can't do it for you, think about those you influence.
questions welcomed and encouraged.
thanks for reading.
@@tony1685 Instead of hating, why dont you try to have a truthful conversation.