@AniMelon If you remember in DBZ Abridged when Freeza was controlling his disc trying to kill Goku Goku asks: "What are you trying to do? Are you trying to swat a bee? Cause I don't like bees." That was a subtle reference to his training with Roshi.
With Goku's training obsession, every time I see him "farming" as an adult, I wonder why he uses farming equipment since this was his training as a kid. Besides, his bare hands would honestly be faster anyway.
@@samuelzuleger5134 Probably because chi-chi wants him to farm like a normal father, and not draw unwanted judgement from their mountain dwelling neighbors. "Now you go out there and hold a real job like a real man! A father should provide for his family!"
Yup for a little while. Goku was already ahead of him when they first met, but compare to others Krillin was close and kept close until probably the martial arts tournament
It's more the opposite, Goku was really weak for a Saiyan and he really lacked the stimulus to grow. He was more on par with mid-high athletic humans. Hurcule is stronger than them both at this point. (He could probably move the large rock, given that he can pull 3 buses at once)
@@morphingninja probably and while still super impressive 3 busses at least have wheels so I am unsure how much force is needed though i still agree that he probably could of moved the rock and probably is stronger than both right now. with that being said they are both really young and probably stronger than what he was at that age. I also agree that Goku was really weak for a Saiyan but it isn't the opposite as that would more so imply that it is impressive that Goku was up there with Krillin when Goku had his own martial arts training before this point as well as constantly did physical activities beyond most normal humans such as catching the huge fish in the first episode.
“Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty. That’s the turtle hermit way.” Roshi’s training is such a cool concept because it’s something you can practice in real life, not just to become stronger; but to become an upstanding person in society. Ps I believe roshi is currently out of shape since he’s been retired for a while now. That’s why he probably seems weaker than in Z: at least that’s my head canon reason.
Roshi actually restarts his training in secret after he sees how fast Goku and Krillin are progressing. We don't see much, but it is pretty ridiculous, even for DragonBall standards.
It occurred to me while watching this that Krillin's strength and speed are on par with a lot of DC and Marvel superheroes. Such an underrated character!
Yes well Marvel fans aren't going to admit that. Much like how Superman fans ignore that Goku can output universe destroying force in his attacks which is a low ball honestly. And they like to pretend he can tank that.
work hard, study well and eat and sleep plenty. thats the turtle hermit way. this quote was cool the first time i heard it, but when roshi says it again in the TOP it hits different.
a few years ago i use to have trouble sleeping and ep 17&18 were both on youtube. It was my go to. Everytime goku fell asleep in the hammock i would be ready to pass out
Roshi can move that boulder, definitely. He might be a bit out of fit, but I think he kinda gets back to shape as he trains Goku and Krillin. At least that's what I think from that whole exchange. Krillin is great, he just has the same disadvantage as any other human fighter. He has no bullshit power ups like the saiyans, no fusions like the namekians (which also gives you wisdom, also Piccolo is a natural too). Krillin just has his natural smugness. Yamcha on the other hand...
The training episode is a classic! Roshi's methods are unorthodox, but it all makes sense. And it's really satisfying to see Goku and Krillin improve. I even like that Roshi had to motivate Goku to be patient and disciplined, despite his herculean strength.
Day two of the training arc continues. Of course Master Roshi knows what he's talking about he did teach grandpa Gohan. 4:36 it's a Jekyll and Hyde type of thing. Yellow hair launch is just a different personality all together
Just because there are ki users in this universe doesn't mean we should look down on Hercule. He's still more than peak human ability. If he was transported to the real world, he would dominate freestyle fighting.
Seems like a better way to teach someone how to dodge than how Piccolo teaches Gohan lol. Just beating the ever-loving shit out of him while screaming DOOOOODGE!!! Say what you want about the wasps, but at least Goku and Krillin learned how to dodge lol
17:27 I don't think Goku is actually going slow. Remember that even tho Goku is a saiyan when he was born he was one of the weakest saiyans with a power level of just 2, eventually Goku would become much stronger than the average saiyan but as a kid even tho he is strong for a normal human he is nowhere near as strong as some humans on earth and can even struggle to keep on with them. You'll see!
Goku's entire character is about struggle and determination. He was born with no natural talent, and he has to work twice as hard as everyone else just to keep up. If you pay attention throughout Dragonball and early Dragonball Z, the other characters go through the same training Goku does and just get more out of it. Right now, Goku is much stronger than Krillin, but by the end of Roshi's training, they're pretty much even. They did the exact same training, but Krillin advanced more compared to where he started. At the end of Dragonball, Goku trains on Kami's lookout for three years, and afterwards, he still gets clapped by Raditz. The Z fighters train on Kami's lookout for one year and all emerge stronger than Raditz. Goku trains with King Kai for one year and still isn't strong enough to beat Vegeta. The Z fighters train with King Kai for a couple months and are strong enough to defeat the Ginyu Force. DBZA has a scene where Vegeta made a joke about how the Z fighters are all slackers who try hard enough, but that's entirely true. The only reason Goku stayed ahead for so long was that he did more advanced training ahead of the others, but by the time they did that same training, they got way stronger from it. If any of them had put in as much effort as Goku, they'd have all surpassed him quickly. I'm not saying that to disparage Goku; quite the opposite. The entire reason Goku is the hero is because he is the one to put in that effort. Yamcha, Tien, or Krillin could have been stronger than him, but they lacked his sheer determination. Goku isn't the best because he was born stronger; he's the best because he worked harder than anyone else to become the best. Of course, the Super Saiyan transformation throws a bit of a wrench into this whole thing and somewhat ruins the philosophy of the show, but let's just ignore that for now.
@@Celestia282 Not sure what you mean by "no natural talent", from day 1 he is shown to be unnaturally strong -- lifting a car and taking a bullet to the head. There are no other Saiyans or aliens to compare him to at this point to say that he is weak (not even in Toriyama's mind). The other characters in the show seem to progress faster when following in Goku's footsteps only because they wanted to somehow keep them relevant while Goku steams forward because is he ~both~ naturally gifted and is incredible at rising to the challenge. Even Vegeta says, in the Buu saga, that Goku's "natural talent far surpasses my own", but I guess that's just his opinion.
These few episodes are still probably my favourites of the entire show :) I love how pure they were back then, and it reminds me of when my classmates and I tried to imitate these exercises, well without the sharks, bees and dinosaurs, of course. 🤣🤣 Honestly, Dragon Ball was, is and will always be the love of my anime life :)
About Mr.Satan, i don't think he's weak. Talking about "human level" he's indeed strong, he was just lucky to compete in the World Martial Arts Tournament where no extraordinary warriors were competing in it. Obviously he's a joke compared to the Saiyans or even Yamcha or Krillin ahah.
Look... Mr. Satan is in the top 10 strongest humans alive come Z, like chances are no one in the real world could match him. Edit: Master Roshi out here teaching the 5 D's... Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge.
Goku is not stronger then Roshi. But after the red ribbon army arc, Goku will become close to equal with Roshi. And then 2 arcs after that, Goku becomes stronger then Roshi.
Not quite accurate, I'd say. People often forget Mr. Satan is actually quite strong by normal human standards, just because he's always compared to the main cast. It could even be argued his power is on par with most pre-Z characters.
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Agreed. Most people tend to forget Mr Satan is actually pretty damn strong by human standards. Pulling multiple buses and ripping phone books in half is NOT an easy feat. In DB he would’ve done great in the Tournaments and been a powerful asset against the Red Ribbon Army.
@RondoOfBloodX exactly. Sorta. The pulling a bus, for sure, but the phonebook thing is a bit of both. Strength and sneaky behavior. You bend the pages a bit and essentially individually rip each page to a certain degree. I'd be interested to see how he'd fair against Saiyan Saga Krillin. No ki blasts. Or Buu Saga Videl vs Krillin. People easily forget he's one of the strongest humans save Roshi.
11:21 is Goku’s first introduction to General Mountain
I'd think at this stage, it's still just 'private.' General Mt is freeza level. Lol.
@AniMelon If you remember in DBZ Abridged when Freeza was controlling his disc trying to kill Goku Goku asks: "What are you trying to do? Are you trying to swat a bee? Cause I don't like bees." That was a subtle reference to his training with Roshi.
The bee exercise would be perfect for Gohan.
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Yes
It just hit me that everything Goku did for training is what he did for a living as an adult 😂
With Goku's training obsession, every time I see him "farming" as an adult, I wonder why he uses farming equipment since this was his training as a kid. Besides, his bare hands would honestly be faster anyway.
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@@samuelzuleger5134 Probably because chi-chi wants him to farm like a normal father, and not draw unwanted judgement from their mountain dwelling neighbors. "Now you go out there and hold a real job like a real man! A father should provide for his family!"
Knowing that Krillin was just human, it's quite impressive that he was still able to keep up with Goku relatively closely even if they were just kids.
Yup for a little while. Goku was already ahead of him when they first met, but compare to others Krillin was close and kept close until probably the martial arts tournament
Goku was a human (then). Do not apply theories of Z in Dragon Ball. 🙈 Then Toriyama improvised that he was not human.
It's more the opposite, Goku was really weak for a Saiyan and he really lacked the stimulus to grow. He was more on par with mid-high athletic humans. Hurcule is stronger than them both at this point. (He could probably move the large rock, given that he can pull 3 buses at once)
@@morphingninja probably and while still super impressive 3 busses at least have wheels so I am unsure how much force is needed though i still agree that he probably could of moved the rock and probably is stronger than both right now. with that being said they are both really young and probably stronger than what he was at that age.
I also agree that Goku was really weak for a Saiyan but it isn't the opposite as that would more so imply that it is impressive that Goku was up there with Krillin when Goku had his own martial arts training before this point as well as constantly did physical activities beyond most normal humans such as catching the huge fish in the first episode.
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*4 busses
5:03 imagine if Goku with that sneeze had become a Super Saiyan!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gokus first reading experience was an adult magazine, metal...
her face had me rolling 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty. That’s the turtle hermit way.”
Roshi’s training is such a cool concept because it’s something you can practice in real life, not just to become stronger; but to become an upstanding person in society.
Ps I believe roshi is currently out of shape since he’s been retired for a while now. That’s why he probably seems weaker than in Z: at least that’s my head canon reason.
Roshi actually restarts his training in secret after he sees how fast Goku and Krillin are progressing. We don't see much, but it is pretty ridiculous, even for DragonBall standards.
It occurred to me while watching this that Krillin's strength and speed are on par with a lot of DC and Marvel superheroes. Such an underrated character!
Yes well Marvel fans aren't going to admit that. Much like how Superman fans ignore that Goku can output universe destroying force in his attacks which is a low ball honestly. And they like to pretend he can tank that.
"Obviously we'll need to work on your dodging ability." This will apparently be a hereditary thing. DODGE!!!
That first 25 seconds...why do I find it so funny?
That said, **Buzz buzz** "DODGE!"
2:47. They're Krillin it?
work hard, study well and eat and sleep plenty. thats the turtle hermit way. this quote was cool the first time i heard it, but when roshi says it again in the TOP it hits different.
a few years ago i use to have trouble sleeping and ep 17&18 were both on youtube. It was my go to. Everytime goku fell asleep in the hammock i would be ready to pass out
This is what Gohan needed
Roshi can move that boulder, definitely. He might be a bit out of fit, but I think he kinda gets back to shape as he trains Goku and Krillin. At least that's what I think from that whole exchange.
Krillin is great, he just has the same disadvantage as any other human fighter. He has no bullshit power ups like the saiyans, no fusions like the namekians (which also gives you wisdom, also Piccolo is a natural too). Krillin just has his natural smugness. Yamcha on the other hand...
Old school anime(and cartoons) reused scenes all the time, it's great catching the short cuts
“Work hard, study well, eat and sleep plenty”. Master Roshi
The training episode is a classic! Roshi's methods are unorthodox, but it all makes sense. And it's really satisfying to see Goku and Krillin improve. I even like that Roshi had to motivate Goku to be patient and disciplined, despite his herculean strength.
8:41 I like the short clip of Krillan's backstory. Now I see where his motivation comes from. W vid and reaction 💯 #Melongang
Day two of the training arc continues. Of course Master Roshi knows what he's talking about he did teach grandpa Gohan. 4:36 it's a Jekyll and Hyde type of thing. Yellow hair launch is just a different personality all together
Great reaction. I like seeing Krillin's backstory, it really sets up his character well. You'll also learn more about Roshi as the show continues.
This is the absolutely best episode in the history of Dragonball.
They could just hold lunches nose everytime before she sneezes. Wouldn´t that work?!😂
They probably didn’t want to break her nose or something keep in mind these people are a lot stronger than normal humans.
Just because there are ki users in this universe doesn't mean we should look down on Hercule. He's still more than peak human ability. If he was transported to the real world, he would dominate freestyle fighting.
Remember that Goku is considered low class scum by saiyans
Seems like a better way to teach someone how to dodge than how Piccolo teaches Gohan lol. Just beating the ever-loving shit out of him while screaming DOOOOODGE!!! Say what you want about the wasps, but at least Goku and Krillin learned how to dodge lol
Such fun training.
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17:27 I don't think Goku is actually going slow. Remember that even tho Goku is a saiyan when he was born he was one of the weakest saiyans with a power level of just 2, eventually Goku would become much stronger than the average saiyan but as a kid even tho he is strong for a normal human he is nowhere near as strong as some humans on earth and can even struggle to keep on with them. You'll see!
Goku's entire character is about struggle and determination. He was born with no natural talent, and he has to work twice as hard as everyone else just to keep up. If you pay attention throughout Dragonball and early Dragonball Z, the other characters go through the same training Goku does and just get more out of it.
Right now, Goku is much stronger than Krillin, but by the end of Roshi's training, they're pretty much even. They did the exact same training, but Krillin advanced more compared to where he started.
At the end of Dragonball, Goku trains on Kami's lookout for three years, and afterwards, he still gets clapped by Raditz. The Z fighters train on Kami's lookout for one year and all emerge stronger than Raditz.
Goku trains with King Kai for one year and still isn't strong enough to beat Vegeta. The Z fighters train with King Kai for a couple months and are strong enough to defeat the Ginyu Force.
DBZA has a scene where Vegeta made a joke about how the Z fighters are all slackers who try hard enough, but that's entirely true. The only reason Goku stayed ahead for so long was that he did more advanced training ahead of the others, but by the time they did that same training, they got way stronger from it. If any of them had put in as much effort as Goku, they'd have all surpassed him quickly. I'm not saying that to disparage Goku; quite the opposite. The entire reason Goku is the hero is because he is the one to put in that effort. Yamcha, Tien, or Krillin could have been stronger than him, but they lacked his sheer determination. Goku isn't the best because he was born stronger; he's the best because he worked harder than anyone else to become the best.
Of course, the Super Saiyan transformation throws a bit of a wrench into this whole thing and somewhat ruins the philosophy of the show, but let's just ignore that for now.
@@Celestia282 Not sure what you mean by "no natural talent", from day 1 he is shown to be unnaturally strong -- lifting a car and taking a bullet to the head. There are no other Saiyans or aliens to compare him to at this point to say that he is weak (not even in Toriyama's mind).
The other characters in the show seem to progress faster when following in Goku's footsteps only because they wanted to somehow keep them relevant while Goku steams forward because is he ~both~ naturally gifted and is incredible at rising to the challenge.
Even Vegeta says, in the Buu saga, that Goku's "natural talent far surpasses my own", but I guess that's just his opinion.
These few episodes are still probably my favourites of the entire show :) I love how pure they were back then, and it reminds me of when my classmates and I tried to imitate these exercises, well without the sharks, bees and dinosaurs, of course. 🤣🤣 Honestly, Dragon Ball was, is and will always be the love of my anime life :)
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Roshi pushed that rock while wearing his weighted shell and without powering up like he did at Fire Mountain. Goku was using maximum effort.
These videos are my fav at the moment not gonna lie
7:54 - 7:59 Young Krillin Owned Count: 8 (ding), 8:16 - 8:19 Young Krillin Owned Count: 9 (ding), 8:27 - 8:32 Young Krillin Owned Count: 10 (ding), 14:53 Young Krillin Owned Count: 11 (ding)
This actually gets revisited early on in DB Super.
Thats no T-Rex, at best its a Ceratosaurus.
Kuririns Origin kinda explains why hes such a shithead at the start. He had bad examples how to behave.
About Mr.Satan, i don't think he's weak. Talking about "human level" he's indeed strong, he was just lucky to compete in the World Martial Arts Tournament where no extraordinary warriors were competing in it. Obviously he's a joke compared to the Saiyans or even Yamcha or Krillin ahah.
Roshi calls it traning
I call it child abuse xD
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Melon you’re so concerned about whether Goku and Krillin are eating enough. You must be Italian
5:07 damn you Pavlov
Look... Mr. Satan is in the top 10 strongest humans alive come Z, like chances are no one in the real world could match him.
Edit: Master Roshi out here teaching the 5 D's... Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge.
Krillin started out being picked on, but ended up with the hottest and strongest wife in the series. Sometime karma just takes a bit of time.
Too bad we never got to see the bullies reaction to 18. I know what happens later in the saga with them but still.
Worth noting in the manga they were 50kg, which is 60 lbs heavier.
All the training you saw was in one day
can you make it square ? instead of round, sometimes cant see the fights properly
And Mr. Satan 🤣🤣🤣
It was cute to see Krilin and Roshi suffer PTSD. Which is weird.
Would you prefer Roshi's dodge training, or Piccolo's dodge training?
Piccolo doesn’t tie you up, you have room to run.
Awesome
EP and really liked it
DOOOOODGE!!!: Origins
One for the algorithm
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I know you might not be into ygo as much as other shows, but I still hope to see your reaction to the Ygotas movies soon.
I didn't know Goku could read.
If anyone watched Disney Channel at all, you’ll recognize that sound effect at 10:53. Lmao, it’s the “It’s a Laugh Productions” sound.
DODGE!!!!
seeing krillin get bullied makes me think of the OWNED COUNT go up 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Goku is not stronger then Roshi. But after the red ribbon army arc, Goku will become close to equal with Roshi. And then 2 arcs after that, Goku becomes stronger then Roshi.
You should see how often Hannah Barbara used recycled animation
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You need to check out the latest SAO abridged episode.
Don't bash Mr Satan like that, he is relatively strong in comparison to a normal human being.
Stronger than Roshi you say...
Roshi sometimes seems weak for comedic purpose. At this point he's very powerful, he'll show you anyway.
The Mr. Satan shade was not nice Melon but accurate!!
Not quite accurate, I'd say. People often forget Mr. Satan is actually quite strong by normal human standards, just because he's always compared to the main cast. It could even be argued his power is on par with most pre-Z characters.
@@c.k.6939 tbh I was joking, it's fun sometimes to make fun of him but I like Hercule💯
@@c.k.6939 isn't he like a year above Goku, basically as old as Krillin..?
@@mr.dumbum8209 According to the wiki, yeah, they're the same age.
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I think Hercule would've done alright back in these tournaments. Maybe not champion, but he was/is a martial artist and Champion.
Maybe.
Definitely would have made it to the top 8
Agreed. Most people tend to forget Mr Satan is actually pretty damn strong by human standards. Pulling multiple buses and ripping phone books in half is NOT an easy feat. In DB he would’ve done great in the Tournaments and been a powerful asset against the Red Ribbon Army.
@RondoOfBloodX exactly. Sorta. The pulling a bus, for sure, but the phonebook thing is a bit of both. Strength and sneaky behavior. You bend the pages a bit and essentially individually rip each page to a certain degree.
I'd be interested to see how he'd fair against Saiyan Saga Krillin. No ki blasts. Or Buu Saga Videl vs Krillin. People easily forget he's one of the strongest humans save Roshi.
DBZA Picolo: DODGE!
Roshi is stronger than Goku.
Goku doesn't surpass Roshi for a few years.
Here's a thought for you, Hurcule could probably move the large rock, we've seen that he can do strength feats like pulling 4 buses at once.
So now we are deep in child labour. Let that sink in :p
Goku stronger than Roshi already??? 🤔
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The really need to stick a mask or nose plugs on that girl....
i know people like her as a character, but I could never stand Launch, and frankly I'm glad Toriyama forgot she existed
Hey animelon this is a question but who do you think are sigma men or women?
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