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POV: Kern kneeled down and proposing to you with a black ring.
I can't unsee it now LOL
@@hectoro4838I wish it wasn’t the first comment I saw 😂
Black 👑 black 💍. 😋
I think it deserves some recognition that the updated pump fits with factory rubber insulation, no trimming needed. I was pleasantly surprised when I installed mine
Oh yeah i didn't even realize that. Awesome
This is actually really great! I am definitely changing my plans around to try this route out and see what i can push without PI.
you sir......are the gold standard for b58 info
Kevin we need a collab with you and LJ, would be awesome.
Thanks for that content 💪🏾
We'll see if we can make that Happen one day
Bru that turbo is insane
Great explanation 🤘🏽
Sorry the audio is so low. Tried something different with the mic, and it sounded good while editing but was very quiet when uploaded 🤦🏾♂️
No worries!
I can hear it properly!!
I literally installed one yesterday not realizing it was different from the picture online I have a pure 800 and I am scheduled in 3 hours on the dyno after finishing tune revisions so we're going to find out pretty quick folks. Before DS2.5 I had just TU pump with my pure 800 and was pushing 650Whp 650Tq corrected for altitude...
What fuel
No you weren’t lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Corrected for altitude,😭
Ok Dyno done "uncorrected" values with p800 - ds2- XHP stg 3 and open dump on E50...
540Whp 564Tq at 5280ft a MileHigh
@Jay.D303 that's still good and closer to what it probably runs in the 1/4 I'd say. Unless it's a 9 sec car 👀
not me watching knowing i wont be able to afford a b58 for at least 4 years, but ima watch
Never too early to prepare 🙏🏾
All I need is a good tune stage 2 pum and a better injectors??
Nice to see love is being giving to the gen2, but for me at least, its port injection regardless
Why? I guess if you're planning really high power numbers, sure, but you can run larger injectors without any need for PI.
Hello Kern, I have B58 gen 1 (7/2018) , upgrade DP, axel back exhaust, open air intake and MHD stage 2 , xhp stage 2 , ron 102, when I install dorch 2,5 its make effect and turbo can handle it ? thx for reply
amazing content as always. Im probably going to ask an old question thats been answered in the comments before, but what exhaust/downpipe/tune setup are you running on that intro clip where the camera falls. absolutely love the sound of whatever setup that is and would love to try and replicate it
Top moint turbo with a catless downpipe and muffler delete
So with the new "DS25-350 with + 27% Cam" 99% of the Supra guys running hybrid turbos no longer need Port Injection?
That would save a ton of money not needing a PI Plate, Injectors, and a Driver (reflex)
What's the Catch? it seems too good to be true
Hey Kern, you plan on testing any of these new products hitting the market? Have they sent you anything yet to try? The stuff getting released from both Dorch and Spool have been very impressive as of lately.
They haven't reached out to me for any testing but I'd be open to it
@@kern417 Would be nice to test it on the track for sure and compare it to your previous track runs
These upgrades probably won't make much of a difference since the 340 is staying stock turbo
@@kern417 no plans on testing out the spool kit?
From my understanding for the M4 Comp S58 we just need port injection to run full e85?
all you need is an e85 tune. fuel just depends on your hp goals.
@kern417 OK so E85 tune and we safe to run. Thanks for answering
Is it worth switching to the newer HPFP if you currently have the dorch stage 2, (DAW 2.5, e50 tune)? Or minimal gains?
Gains can be had but probably not worth it unless you plan on upgrading your transmission
So you’re saying an M340, with downpipe, DS2 hpfp, and a good full e85 tune can run up to 560whp with no further upgrades?? That’s insane
The turbo will tap out earlier but the pump can flow that much
@@kern417what will it make? I got a gen 1 b58 ots e50 boutta sell my Tu and buy a dorch to try n make peer w out pi, staying stock turbo
Spool dropped their hpfp for gen2 !
They're moving too fast for me to keep up 😅
Was just about to say this
Its like adding insult to injury b58 owners upgrading their hpfps when us n55 owners cry into our beers with what we got provided, even on the m2
Hey Kern! For B58TU pumps (I have a m340) is it worth upgrading to DS2 fuel pump?? I currently run up to e50 on stock. So with DS2 I should be able to run full E and extract max power correct??
With a custom tune correct
Imo there won't be much difference on stock turbo
Wasn‘t the old Dorch Stage 1 HPFP already capable of 600whp with pump gas? What is the difference in cc between old and new Stage 1(.5) HPFP?
They replaced their cc/rev data points with hp ratings because of how volumetric efficiency effects flow. It can't really be compared
With an upgraded lpfp, a dorch ds25 hpfp and a DAW ultra flow R, but stock injectors, do you think it be possible to hit over 600whp?
You can do that on an ethanol mix without an upgraded lpfp.
How does the gen 1 ds25 compare to the fx200 though? Which is the flow king
Seems like they're comparable but we'll see
Mine has red ends does this make any difference to whether it’s a ds1 or ds2, I’m assuming if it doesn’t have the long connection then IT’s definitely the updated version
Red ends? What do you mean?
Hey Kern,
do you suggest upgrading to a dorsch stage 1/2 hpfp if I upgrade to a pure800 turbo or is the TU pump enough?
I don't plan on running ethanol and sticking with pump gas 93.
Thanks so much for help 🙏
I have the bigger ultraflow and tu pump is fine if only running pump
@@QuantomsJune what whp and tq did you get?
I'm on Ultra flow with TU e30 so yea 93 no issues
@@thefastforte2854 any estimates on HP and tq gains?
@waynexyz7499 only dragy data. Still tuning but trapped 126mph 10.9x in 1/4
8.3 60-130 . Temps been hot tho fighting iats pulling timing. That was the old DAW I'm about to install new R version which is alot better from what I've seen on wheel specs.
Hi kern! Not familiar with fueling mode, actually i want to upgrade to pure800 or turbosystem stage 3, if i take the lpfp, the hpfp (this or the other one you talk on last video) and and a flex fuel sistem can i easy beat 700 (trans limit obviously) and no need port injection? Kind regards and thanks even in Italy you help us so much🙏
You can't easily get 700+ without port currently. Time will tell with the new hpfps
@@kern417 i ve just saw now your video about the Spool Performance HPFP, actually based on results seems i almost max out an hybrid and transmission on E50 (talked with spool and they say this to me) i have to understand if i can do this only adding HPFP or if i need injector + lpfp also. kind regards man
You need hpfp and injectors at a minimum
at that point a port could be less expensive and give acces to flex fuel. damn i have to think about this ahah at the moment top mount and tran are not in my list so i have to chose well, my goal would be make an high 4 on 100-200@@kern417
It just depends on your goals. Nothing will beat the factory integration, control, and safety of the factory DI system. Adding port will add complexity and more opportunities for issues.
I’m torn with going with spool or dorsch what do you recommend
i ran dorch and it worked great. the new design is even better
@kern147 can you bring us a video of how to use BM3 start to finish?
I'll see what I can do. I haven't messed with the new app much since all my cars are on mhd primarily now
I have a question about these codes
190F08 - Fuel tank ventilation system:
11B016 - Electric fuel pump, operating range:
Current too high.
Would you say I need a new tank breather valve and LPFP recently just got tuned with MHD Ots map any help would be appreciated
I think I responded to you in DMs
@@kern417 u did thank you lol
Do you think it is worth it to upgrade if you have the older model ds2 to the ds25?
Not unless you plan on building your transmission