Hi JBizHunts :) I have just stumbled randomly across your account and I must say, This is probably the easiest and best Herd management guide I have ever seen. I watch a lot of LadyLegend & IBuy, however your guide is so much better. I already have 3 GO whitetails & 1 GO Red Deer through herd management but didn't quite understand it all. your video explained every process so clearly it makes me want to do it all again but for other species. Keep up the brilliant videos buddy.
Do the fallow grind on Te Awaroa! I have 4 great one fallows. They have 5 fur types and 4 antler variations so the combos are cool! Got 4 in under 4000 harvest.
@@JBizHunts I have started it bud but then left it as I didn't feel it was working correctly. your videos explained a few things so easily I'm going to start with it again. My red deer GO must only took 114 kills, then I gave up after that as it wasn't fun getting one so easily. Thank you for the video and the help :)
Very clear and concise, well thought-out tutorial. Should equally interesting and understandable to a wide range of experience levels. I found it fascinating, but as I am not predisposed to play the grinding version of this game, I look forward to seeing your cerebral approach to different aspects of the game. Maybe how you would execute setting up an "ambush theatre" with the electronic caller..?
Thanks! I am trying to fill the gaps of the content we see from other creators. I had a Reddit post that did well about a hybrid game play style that was neat. I am planning on trying out the electronic caller but using it on animals with no drink zone… like springbok, chamois and mountain goats since you can’t hunt their drink zones to find them.
Hi, i have a unusual (i think) problem, because i want to grind whitetail but every time i shoot the biggest buck out of the zone (not solo's) when i harvest him the zone is not on my map and it's probably somewhere else on the map for example i had 4 zones on a lake i shot 1 whitetail buck from every zone and now i have only 1 zone there, so please how to fix it????? 😢😢 edit: i play on xbox if thats the reason
Easy answer: hunting pressure. 4 kills on the same lake will result in all zones disappearing and have to be rediscovered. If zones are close enough the purple hunting pressure from another zone can stack with their own zone. That’s why it’s recommended to use tripods or hunting blinds as it takes 16+ kills of pressure to delete a zone. So, either use hunting blinds/tripods or do not kill more than 3 at the same lake until you create pressure at another lake to make the purple colour go away.
Good tips fellow hunter! I personally do not think the 1 min trick or the moving to a tent the opposite side of a lake for respawns works on console. Maybe I’m just unlucky the many times I have done either get no results
Thank you! I’m on console and I can guarantee that the tents and 1 minute trick works… tents, just set a marker on their need zone and make sure you are 250m + away from the zone… the 1 minute trick works, but you should be at least 1 hour into their drink time. If it’s whitetail and you are at 8am which is the start of their drink time and you do 1 minute it isn’t going to work.. I always start my grind/zone searches halfway through the drink time.
@@JBizHunts Good to know you are on console as well so I will persevere with the 1 min trick! Those dam Whitetail are always late so I'm with you there, I normally start between 9-9.30. Your Guides are really good so I subscribed. Happy hunting!
That’s a very good question! I would say herd management is not for everyone and some people with never do it. If you want more diamonds or to even get one, it’s a great tool. For a new player you won’t have the tents or tripods yet to accomplish a great grind (yet). However, you could still go out and find all your zones and do what I call “light” herd management. When finding your zones, shoot the biggest male and keep going. When you find a herd feeding, shoot the biggest male and keep moving. Never shoot females and you can shoot smaller animals if they are rare as an example like an albino or piebald. That way you are preparing for a grind, getting harvest for XP and cash and save your money. I would suggest doing a plains bison grind on Silver Ridge Peaks as a starter. Most of their zones are close enough to an outpost that tents at first are not needed. They are slow and you can kill multiple to get extra cash and xp, and their herds are condensed to the bottom right of the map. You will need a class 9 rifle like the 300, but early game just purchase the hunter power pack and have access to the Tsurugi 308 for all your class 9 needs with no in game cash needed to get going. Also, for 4K you can unlock hunting towers (similar to a tripod) for a 1/3 of the money to relieve hunting pressure early in game.
@@JBizHuntshello, this reply to this person's comment was very useful, I am trying to grind blacktail deer in Layton Lakes and I need help. Do you have any friends or somebody/some place where I can get help with this. I really want a Diamond Blacktail as my first diamond. Great video, thank you! ❤
@@pikeguy1639 check out my first 10 trophy montage, that max weight blacktail at the start is from my diamond grind! I was able to find 1 troll initial spawn finding zones and grinding 2 diamonds. What would you like to know?
I know you left this comment a few months ago but I hope this still helps - I wouldn't recommend herd management to a new player until they are familiar with the games basics and things like trophy scores, classes and correct guns and ammo in general and to the specific species you want to manage. Also until you have already bought all your guns, sights and other things like ATVs, bloodhound etc that improve quality of life. This is because herd management setup is EXPENSIVE, tents are 16k each as are stands, and you will need multiple of both. This money should firstly be spent on getting your basic guns/bows/ammo/QOL stuff first as once you have them you are good to go for the entire time you play (save for adding in new packs in future you might want and whatnot) for any animal not just those you want to manage. You don't want to get into a groove of spending all your money on tents and stands, and ending up with not having the right firepower or being limited to what you can even hunt because of it. I don't recommend that you HM all day every day so you don't want to only end up with one or two good guns available, taking a break and going on some other maps and getting some other species so you don't burn yourself out is important too. It can take actual days to get your map setup to even begin HM, so you don't want to put yourself off of hunting altogether accidentally. I've played the game for I think roughly four years now on and off and am only just picking up HM myself now I have the cash to spare and enough trophies already in my lodge from casual play that I can feel like grinding for better ones is rewarding.
I have a couple question. Am I supposed to shoot down my exterior zones and then once those are shot down I move to my main lakes or do I hunt them all at the same time. I have about 5 diamonds stacked on my map rn but some arent at my main lakes. Do I shoot those and continue or do I keep them stacked. Also how do I keep my respawns from going to my shot down lakes?
Hi I’m grinding fallow now. So your saying not to shoot the 2’s but what if there in your shooter zone. Do you still leave them? Great video and very helpful. Thank you
You can shoot 2’s if they are in your final 10ish zones (shooter zones). However, I play on console and can’t get off a second shot as quick as some of the TH-camrs who play on PC, so I actually have a few 2’s in my shooter zones. Especially if you have a fallow herd with more than 2 males. I got my grind down to a diamond every 17 kills and shoot 1 big male per zone (selective shooting) and extreme herd management. I have 4 fallow great ones in 3800 kills. So, to answer your question, it depends on how many kills you can get at each zone and how managed down your herd is.
Yeah I have 6006 kills in on my 3rd fallow go. So I think I need to try something different. I watched your video and it was very good. So when I have zones go down to 2’s then I should leave them alone? Thanks
@@nightryder1227 I’m on the series s and bought a special controller that has really helped. It has longer joysticks for more precise shooting and a shorter bumper button that gets off a shot quicker.
When you shoot down a zone, you pick up your gear and move on to the next zone to manage. If it’s your main shooting zone and they are shot down and you are not getting high level respawns you can shoot the small males and hopefully they come back as larger (even with Herd Management, there is still RNG involved). If you don’t pick up your kill and you go back to the main menu the animals will respawn… it only effects the chance of it respawning as a great one by not claiming the harvest. As an example on my gemsbok grind for a diamond I just killed as many as I could at each lake and didn’t harvest any and spawned my diamond by kill 100 or so. I didn’t care because I had enough cash and xp (I’m level 60) and gemsbok doesn’t have a great one. Hope this helps!
I was watching this video while grinding off my exterior zones, I logged off and got back on to see my best exterior zone have a great one in it, I first looked at the score and said wait, 318-380? That’s a big dimond, then it said 10 Fabled. 200 some kill grind, second grind as well, I first did a red deer one but had no luck
That’s a very short grind! Whitetail averages 1000-1200 grinds, moose 800-1200, fallow 500-1000… (of course there are shorter and longer grinds) but red deer it seems in the community is 2000+ on average….. BUT they pull in the most money which you can buy extra tents so you can set up grinds on other maps and never have to take down your set up.
Yeah, I mainly stopped because I hunt white tail irl and wanted to hunt them, and I wasn’t getting diamonds to spawn on my red deer grind, I’d get 9’s but most the time but they would be below Diamond score or have the troll rack.
@@Hatfieldfarms44 agreed! I like in Canada and we have tons of whitetails. I actually haven’t done a whitetail grind just yet, saving that one for when I get bogged down. Currently trying for my great one moose on Medved. I watched a neat video on fallow ruts and I actually really think they would make for a fantastic IRL hunt.
So i got 2 questions 1 how long before you get new respawns after culling off the herd ? 2 how long before you should start seeing results ? Ive just started my WT GO grind and HM at the same time most of my level 2s are around 150 to 180 lbs and within 3 days off and on total of 77 kills im starting to see way more max weights on the map so it seems like its off in the right direction 😂
Around 100 you will start seeing some results, by 200-250 the herd will be getting closer managed. After each rotation I go back to the home menu and then the enter the map and change the time. Going to the home menu seems to signal to the game to make the respawns… so usually the next rotation or the very next one after that if not. It’s usually pretty quick
I’m setting up a moose grind on MEDVED. I’m finding within almost all my herd zones there are solo bulls. For example, I find a herd zone with 5 moose total (2 males, 3 females). The herd indicator on the ground says it’s a solo male then a herd of 4 (1 bull 3 cows). What should I do about this? Do you set up and shoot based on the herd indicator or the animals in the zone?
@@JBizHunts I watched that too. So if you’re herd managing then you’d go off the indicator? By going off the zones, are you constantly having to re-find where the solo that was in a herd zone went after shooting it?
I‘m currently grinding for the GO Reddeer, I’ve about 12 level 9 deers on my map. When should I shoot them down ? Should I wait until I have 15 level 9‘s?
Are you solo male’s managed (level 5 or lower?)… if the answer is no, I would go shoot them down since you have 12 stacked. If the answer is yes, stacking is actually hurting your current grind as the great one is more likely to spawn off larger kills (diamonds are the largest) so, it’s basically slowing down your herd and your respawns may be smaller which may slow the go from appearing. So, I’d kill then if you are satisfied with your solo’s and just start grinding and shooting the largest male at each zone, reset the time, main menu, then go back and repeat
My solo zones are 5 or lower, still got some 6-8 deers walking around in other zones . Should I shoot them down until they respawn below 5‘s? Or can I shoot my 9‘s down to see what will spawn?
@@hippster7847 you should be rotating on 8-10 zones… so I would shoot down the herd zones you don’t like shooting at (poor visibility, low number of males etc) and then shoot the stacked. Move the tents for pick up tents so that way it’s fast travel, shoot, fast travel, harvest, and repeat. You can probably do all your zones in 15 minutes and increase your kills per hr. That way the 8-10 zones you rotate on you are usually killing level 8-9 for each kill… on my fallow grind I’m usually killing a max weight estimate buck each zone which increases the chances of the big guy showing up. Honestly weight plays a bigger factor than we all know.
Then I would pick up my tents/tripods and move to the next zone and consider them managed down. I would however, go check on them every 250 harvests to see if any stragglers respawned in those zones. There has to be high level males somewhere, so if “all zones” are low level you need to go look for additional zones or check zones you thought were shot down. Herd management is managing the whole map, not just the 16 zones you start at.
So I started to fellow grind on TA. When im looking for zones i came across a guaranteed diamond on a exterior zone . What do you say should i kill it or wait ?
Im new to the GO grind for whitetail I've always wanted one but im not sure how to start it even with a step by step tutorial because its very tedious but im willing to try it but i just dont know where to start
I would honestly start on Layton lakes. They are concentrated to the left side of the map and there are about 65-70 zones depending on your map. Start there by just finding your zones, keeping note of what ones have the bigger max estimate weight bucks
So is the goal to shoot down zones and minimize zones and stack big animals in the non shot down zones? How do I know what zones to shoot down and how to control what zones will stack? Thanks
You got it, that’s the goal. Once all your secondary zones are shot down to minimum trophy score animals you can then harvest all your stacked animals.
@@JBizHunts so in zones where i have potential diamonds or diamonds that Im stacking do I still shoot mid level males in the stacking zones just as I would in the zones Im not stacking in?
I had 8 zones stacked (Whitetails), meaning at least 1 lvl 3 on 4-5 zones and level 2's on the others. I probably did 8-10 "runs"(picking off the lvl 2s that would respawn) on these main zones & then my game suddenly stopped spawning 2s on my mains and instead spawned 2s on random exterior zones. Any idea why this would happen or how to correct it? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
LadyLegend has a great video about how she fixed her moose grind. It seems something since the retriever update that this occurs more frequently. So now I just check all my zones every 250+ harvests
How many different herds and zones can there be on a map for one species, and do i need to discover all of them? Like Layton lakes for example, is frekin huge. Do i have to discover all the zones for whitetail before I begin managing the herds?
Depends on the map: Red Deer/Fallow on te Awaroa are 35-40 zones and most other maps 65+… whitetail on Layton are concentrated on the left side of the map and are around 55+ zones… everyone’s map will be different with amount of zones and exact locations but the home ranges would be the same. I would watch ProXCK videos on TH-cam for maps for locations… moose I have 140 zones on Medved (they drink everywhere) there’s 100 on Layton and 200+ on New England. You need most if not all zones for respawn to work reliably…. Even missing a few zones could slow respawns
i’m currently going for my second fallow great one or even a super rare and i wish you were ps5 to come look at my setup and give me some advice. i currently have 6 diamond potential stacked and all off my other exterior zones are shot down. Do I take out the diamonds all together because i’ve been killing one and it will spawn back every 40 kills into another main shooting zone. I just spawned a level 5 piebald lmao
When I was spawning a great one every 500 harvests I was spawning a max level ever 12-17 kills. My advice is if you are not down to atleast every 20, you may have some big 3’s in outside zones or as solo’s. I spawned 5 G1 fallow in under 4200 harvests. Also! Pick up all your kills
@@JBizHuntsalso i have this issue where only one of my single male zones keeps spawning a high level 3 or low level 4 and keeps rotating thru those single male zones.
@@joshwalls8174 then you have to stack in your main shooting zones some max level bucks, let’s say 7-10 of them big boys and then go and focus on the big 3’s/4 in your solo and secondary zones
Fantastic guide with quick to the point info. Didn't realize the game went this in depth. I now know I do not want to do this. Can I still get Diamonds without doing this? Can I get great ones if I stack the species and still don't do heard management?
Yes, you can still get great ones and diamonds without herd management, the downside is they may take longer. I could do a non herd management great one guide
i dont understand any herd managed systems on any youtubers. How do you make animals spawn into certain areas and so call stack heaps of diamond potentials. I mean, apparently its all completely random spawn locations.
@@JBizHunts you've said the same thing. Shoot high levels down than pack up and move because respawns won't respawn there. How do you and everyone else know this. Those high level animals that will respawn. Can you make them respawn where you want them too
Yes it is, it’s more prevalent with some animals compared to others. Like Moose and Red Deer when you are finding zones sometimes have a solo male attached to a herd zone. You wait for the respawn but it won’t come because you actually have to rediscover the need zone. That’s why you start off with 40 zones and by the end of your grind have 45. Another instance is you may shoot too many males in the herd before they have time to respawn and sometimes a male will break off and become a solo. There is a skill that you can put a skill point into that allows you to see how many animals are in a herd when you click on the need zone indicator so you know if it’s solo or not.
@@FNC_goofyahh a lot of the footage in this video was shot on the map “Te Awaroa” based on New Zealand. One of my favourite maps and the best to grind Fallow Deer (in the video) and Red Deer. Other animals on that map are Sika Deer, Feral Pigs, Merriam Turkey, Mallard Ducks, Chamois and Feral Goats.
Hey I've got a question what am I supposed to do if half of my whitetail drink zones disappeared because I had everything managed and had my first great one I decided to stack and now I lost it's zone
@@beaur2552 you have to rediscover the zone. That’s why it’s always best practice to check your whole home range again for stragglers or zones that had moved. Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
@@beaur2552 if there is a great one it could be on your map, however, sometimes zones move around or split as you grind and manage your herds. So every 250-500 harvests I go and check all the lakes and rivers to see if I have an herds I haven’t discovered or moved
@JBizHunts here's the thing I went on a dif map to hunt red deer and came back to Layton and 90 percent of my white tail drink zones where gone and 1 of those zones had a great one. I have been searching and found 7 zones with one having a max lvl 3 but I haven't found the great 1
Ik it's kinda dumb but I was wondering I you could help me a little bit. I want to white tail grind on Layton and I was wondering if you could kind of guide me through it. Of course you don't have too
Hey, I’d love to help. It just so happens I started a Layton Lakes Whitetail G1 grind less than a week ago. I’m only 300 Harvests in so far. I’ve found 60 zones and I used ProXCK’s Layton Lakes guide video as a reference to find all my zones. What are your questions?
@@opplxss with the new updated you can set your tent closer to the zone ideal 150m. You could do a fallow grind on te Awaroa. Use the ranger .243 with soft points (free ammo) and just hop around getting decent money 1k+ and no cost to ammo… do I feel there’s a concept vid idea in this reply?
So do you only start shooting animals in your main zones once you’ve shot down all the other zones that you don’t want to hunt at that’s the only part I cant understand lol 😂
No, you shoot main zones and secondary zones at the same time. It’s a way to hopefully move max weight bucks from the secondary zones into your main zones. The only time you are not shooting a main zone is if you are stacking max level males.
Ok...maybe your target audience is people who already know a lot about the game. 🤷♂ I am fairly new to the game, and wanted to learn about Herd Management...but then you say things like: "Once I have stacked some diamond-potential animals in my herd zones, I then focus on the solo zones and grind them down to smaller levels, because you have to keep re-finding them. Once you’ve got them ground down to where you find them acceptable, then you can go back to the herd zones" and I'm lost... What's a herd zone? What's a solo zone? What do you mean by re-finding them? How do you ground them down? What's an acceptable level? I get that people want to support your content - so do I, but I'll give you honest feedback. For those of us who could REALLY use this information the most, that is not "clear", "easy", or "simple". You may as well have said: "When your flysenhypher turns chartreuse and there are no wumpumdumpems near the klipsynurdle, just hyperinvert the plucksonic fiv and you'll have some decent deer in the drink zones."
Hey, great comment and you are correct, here management videos are designed for people who have played a bit and have a grasp on the game to want to move to a specific gameplay like herd management. I am working on some new content for the new year “beginner video” and a few others. To answer your questions I’ll use my fallow deer grind on Te Awaroa as an example: Everyone’s map will be a little different on the placement of their maps drink zones but all drink zones will be within the animals home range. Most maps will have between 35-40 drink zones for fallow. A drink zone is a 200M area where the same animal or animals will return everyday during their drink time. There are solo drink zones that contain 1 male and herd drink zones that usually have 2 males and 3 females. When you shoot one male the zone stays the same in a herd zone and will respawn a new male to take its place and hence you can rinse and repeat the action. Solo male zones work different. If you shoot a solo male it will delete their zone as there are no more “active” members in the herd keeping the zone alive. Then you will have to refind that respawn at a brand new solo male zone. Thats why I don’t shoot solo zones unless I have enough high level bucks in my main herd zones to hopefully make the respawns of the solo zones smaller. On my grind specifically I was okay with any size 3 males but if it was a solo male at level 4 I was dropping that big boy like a bad habit. I hope that explains enough! Feel free to follow up with any additional comments as I try to engage anyone who has like or engaged with my content! Happy hunting.
You are correct, herd management is not for newer players and 256k for 16 tents to start is tough. I’m thinking in making a video about the easiest herd management grind to do to learn and gain cash before starting a great one grind.
@@JBizHuntsby stacking and leaving diamond potential animals how do I know I will ever see those high level ones again? Also what is considered "diamond potential"
Also is a zone considered shot down if i return to it multiple times during drink time and nothing is there or is that just RNG and the deer haven't arrived yet
@@thatjitjusto766 that’s just drink zones in general and has nothing to do with RNG. RNG just dictates what repawns after a kill. Try coming to the drink zone 1 to 1.5 HRs after it starts, do the 1 minute trick or go to another zone and return
@@thatjitjusto766 your animals don’t change unless you harvest them and the same animals will always come back to the same need zone. So, leaving a max level animal to stack you don’t have to worry because when you come back to the need zone the next rotation they will be there.
It’s honestly not for everyone. I’m actually in the middle of the discussion on the stance. I have a video on initial spawns and love just going out and finding diamonds and rares on my maps and on Multiplayer, but I use HM for great one grinding. There is evidence that points to a correlation in using HM and getting a great one to spawn. I have a career so my 1-2 hours a day of play I would never see a great one in my time without using it and I have 8. Thanks for the comment! Hopefully you watch my non-HM content
@@EternaldirtXXx agreed! I get more enjoyment from finding new trophies! I even reset my game to a new game (you keep your trophy lodge) but get fresh maps! It’s where I got all my 10 trophies in 6 minute videos were from scouring my solo maps
I have one question. Am I supposed to shoot down my exterior zones and then once those are shot down I move to my main lakes or do I hunt them all at the same time. I have about 5 diamonds stacked on my map rn but some arent at my main lakes. Do I shoot those and continue or do I keep them stacked. Also how do I keep my respawns from going to my shot down lakes?
@@VincentDeCarlo-t3p To answer all your questions: You have to shoot your exterior and main zones at the same time (unless your main zone has no shooters because they are stacked with max weight estimate males/diamond potentials). The reason you have to shoot both is because respawns swap zones and a level 2 bull moose in your main zone can swap with a level 4 max weight estimate bull in a shooter zone. By not shooting both is how you end up keeping big males in your exterior zones. I would decided if would shoot those diamond guys in the exterior and a small male in my main and hope they swap.
@@JBizHunts thank you!!! I decided to shoot the diamonds that weren’t in my main zones. So when choosing a main zone I’m free to shoot lvl 1s and it won’t affect the grind
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Finally a clear guide with timestamps, you deserve a sub
Thanks my dude! Appreciate it!
Hi JBizHunts :) I have just stumbled randomly across your account and I must say, This is probably the easiest and best Herd management guide I have ever seen. I watch a lot of LadyLegend & IBuy, however your guide is so much better.
I already have 3 GO whitetails & 1 GO Red Deer through herd management but didn't quite understand it all. your video explained every process so clearly it makes me want to do it all again but for other species.
Keep up the brilliant videos buddy.
Do the fallow grind on Te Awaroa! I have 4 great one fallows. They have 5 fur types and 4 antler variations so the combos are cool! Got 4 in under 4000 harvest.
@@JBizHunts I have started it bud but then left it as I didn't feel it was working correctly. your videos explained a few things so easily I'm going to start with it again. My red deer GO must only took 114 kills, then I gave up after that as it wasn't fun getting one so easily. Thank you for the video and the help :)
@@luketaylor92 well thanks for the comment, the views and the like! Much appreciated! Let me know if you need any help or insights on your grind!
Very clear and concise, well thought-out tutorial. Should equally interesting and understandable to a wide range of experience levels.
I found it fascinating, but as I am not predisposed to play the grinding version of this game, I look forward to seeing your cerebral approach to different aspects of the game. Maybe how you would execute setting up an "ambush theatre" with the electronic caller..?
Thanks! I am trying to fill the gaps of the content we see from other creators. I had a Reddit post that did well about a hybrid game play style that was neat. I am planning on trying out the electronic caller but using it on animals with no drink zone… like springbok, chamois and mountain goats since you can’t hunt their drink zones to find them.
Hope you are doing well my friend!
@@JBizHunts Thanks, you too.
Great clear and simple guide, this definitely helped!
Thank you for the comment! What are you currently grinding?
Hi, i have a unusual (i think) problem, because i want to grind whitetail but every time i shoot the biggest buck out of the zone (not solo's) when i harvest him the zone is not on my map and it's probably somewhere else on the map for example i had 4 zones on a lake i shot 1 whitetail buck from every zone and now i have only 1 zone there, so please how to fix it????? 😢😢
edit: i play on xbox if thats the reason
Easy answer: hunting pressure. 4 kills on the same lake will result in all zones disappearing and have to be rediscovered. If zones are close enough the purple hunting pressure from another zone can stack with their own zone. That’s why it’s recommended to use tripods or hunting blinds as it takes 16+ kills of pressure to delete a zone. So, either use hunting blinds/tripods or do not kill more than 3 at the same lake until you create pressure at another lake to make the purple colour go away.
@@JBizHunts oh my god thank you i have been looking for this type of reply. u earned a sub ❤
@@manejszi thank you! I’ll make sure I keep putting out some interesting content!
Good tips fellow hunter! I personally do not think the 1 min trick or the moving to a tent the opposite side of a lake for respawns works on console. Maybe I’m just unlucky the many times I have done either get no results
Thank you! I’m on console and I can guarantee that the tents and 1 minute trick works… tents, just set a marker on their need zone and make sure you are 250m + away from the zone… the 1 minute trick works, but you should be at least 1 hour into their drink time. If it’s whitetail and you are at 8am which is the start of their drink time and you do 1 minute it isn’t going to work.. I always start my grind/zone searches halfway through the drink time.
@@JBizHunts Good to know you are on console as well so I will persevere with the 1 min trick! Those dam Whitetail are always late so I'm with you there, I normally start between 9-9.30. Your Guides are really good so I subscribed. Happy hunting!
@@JbGreenBombs thanks for the subscribe! Any content you wish that was out there in our community? Always looking for ideas
At what point should a new player try herd management because when you’re new, it’s hard skipping over easy kills😢
That’s a very good question! I would say herd management is not for everyone and some people with never do it. If you want more diamonds or to even get one, it’s a great tool. For a new player you won’t have the tents or tripods yet to accomplish a great grind (yet). However, you could still go out and find all your zones and do what I call “light” herd management. When finding your zones, shoot the biggest male and keep going. When you find a herd feeding, shoot the biggest male and keep moving. Never shoot females and you can shoot smaller animals if they are rare as an example like an albino or piebald. That way you are preparing for a grind, getting harvest for XP and cash and save your money. I would suggest doing a plains bison grind on Silver Ridge Peaks as a starter. Most of their zones are close enough to an outpost that tents at first are not needed. They are slow and you can kill multiple to get extra cash and xp, and their herds are condensed to the bottom right of the map. You will need a class 9 rifle like the 300, but early game just purchase the hunter power pack and have access to the Tsurugi 308 for all your class 9 needs with no in game cash needed to get going. Also, for 4K you can unlock hunting towers (similar to a tripod) for a 1/3 of the money to relieve hunting pressure early in game.
@@JBizHuntshello, this reply to this person's comment was very useful, I am trying to grind blacktail deer in Layton Lakes and I need help. Do you have any friends or somebody/some place where I can get help with this. I really want a Diamond Blacktail as my first diamond. Great video, thank you! ❤
@@pikeguy1639 check out my first 10 trophy montage, that max weight blacktail at the start is from my diamond grind! I was able to find 1 troll initial spawn finding zones and grinding 2 diamonds. What would you like to know?
@@JBizHunts I'll check it out right now, thanks dude
I know you left this comment a few months ago but I hope this still helps - I wouldn't recommend herd management to a new player until they are familiar with the games basics and things like trophy scores, classes and correct guns and ammo in general and to the specific species you want to manage. Also until you have already bought all your guns, sights and other things like ATVs, bloodhound etc that improve quality of life.
This is because herd management setup is EXPENSIVE, tents are 16k each as are stands, and you will need multiple of both. This money should firstly be spent on getting your basic guns/bows/ammo/QOL stuff first as once you have them you are good to go for the entire time you play (save for adding in new packs in future you might want and whatnot) for any animal not just those you want to manage. You don't want to get into a groove of spending all your money on tents and stands, and ending up with not having the right firepower or being limited to what you can even hunt because of it. I don't recommend that you HM all day every day so you don't want to only end up with one or two good guns available, taking a break and going on some other maps and getting some other species so you don't burn yourself out is important too. It can take actual days to get your map setup to even begin HM, so you don't want to put yourself off of hunting altogether accidentally. I've played the game for I think roughly four years now on and off and am only just picking up HM myself now I have the cash to spare and enough trophies already in my lodge from casual play that I can feel like grinding for better ones is rewarding.
I have a couple question. Am I supposed to shoot down my exterior zones and then once those are shot down I move to my main lakes or do I hunt them all at the same time. I have about 5 diamonds stacked on my map rn but some arent at my main lakes. Do I shoot those and continue or do I keep them stacked. Also how do I keep my respawns from going to my shot down lakes?
@@VincentDeCarlo-t3p check out my answer on your other question!
Hi I’m grinding fallow now. So your saying not to shoot the 2’s but what if there in your shooter zone. Do you still leave them? Great video and very helpful. Thank you
You can shoot 2’s if they are in your final 10ish zones (shooter zones). However, I play on console and can’t get off a second shot as quick as some of the TH-camrs who play on PC, so I actually have a few 2’s in my shooter zones. Especially if you have a fallow herd with more than 2 males. I got my grind down to a diamond every 17 kills and shoot 1 big male per zone (selective shooting) and extreme herd management. I have 4 fallow great ones in 3800 kills. So, to answer your question, it depends on how many kills you can get at each zone and how managed down your herd is.
Yeah I have 6006 kills in on my 3rd fallow go. So I think I need to try something different. I watched your video and it was very good. So when I have zones go down to 2’s then I should leave them alone? Thanks
Yeah I’m on series x myself.
@@nightryder1227 I’m on the series s and bought a special controller that has really helped. It has longer joysticks for more precise shooting and a shorter bumper button that gets off a shot quicker.
@@nightryder1227 yes you should leave them alone… if you add me to Xbox and invite me to MP I can look at your set up and give advice
I have shot down my good zones.. what do i do? I also sumtimes have not picked up all my killed animals will they just go away when i leave the game
When you shoot down a zone, you pick up your gear and move on to the next zone to manage. If it’s your main shooting zone and they are shot down and you are not getting high level respawns you can shoot the small males and hopefully they come back as larger (even with Herd Management, there is still RNG involved). If you don’t pick up your kill and you go back to the main menu the animals will respawn… it only effects the chance of it respawning as a great one by not claiming the harvest. As an example on my gemsbok grind for a diamond I just killed as many as I could at each lake and didn’t harvest any and spawned my diamond by kill 100 or so. I didn’t care because I had enough cash and xp (I’m level 60) and gemsbok doesn’t have a great one. Hope this helps!
I was watching this video while grinding off my exterior zones, I logged off and got back on to see my best exterior zone have a great one in it, I first looked at the score and said wait, 318-380? That’s a big dimond, then it said 10 Fabled. 200 some kill grind, second grind as well, I first did a red deer one but had no luck
That’s a very short grind! Whitetail averages 1000-1200 grinds, moose 800-1200, fallow 500-1000… (of course there are shorter and longer grinds) but red deer it seems in the community is 2000+ on average….. BUT they pull in the most money which you can buy extra tents so you can set up grinds on other maps and never have to take down your set up.
Yeah, I mainly stopped because I hunt white tail irl and wanted to hunt them, and I wasn’t getting diamonds to spawn on my red deer grind, I’d get 9’s but most the time but they would be below Diamond score or have the troll rack.
@@Hatfieldfarms44 agreed! I like in Canada and we have tons of whitetails. I actually haven’t done a whitetail grind just yet, saving that one for when I get bogged down. Currently trying for my great one moose on Medved. I watched a neat video on fallow ruts and I actually really think they would make for a fantastic IRL hunt.
Yeah, I always have wanted to go out west or to Europe to hunt there animals
So i got 2 questions 1 how long before you get new respawns after culling off the herd ? 2 how long before you should start seeing results ? Ive just started my WT GO grind and HM at the same time most of my level 2s are around 150 to 180 lbs and within 3 days off and on total of 77 kills im starting to see way more max weights on the map so it seems like its off in the right direction 😂
Around 100 you will start seeing some results, by 200-250 the herd will be getting closer managed. After each rotation I go back to the home menu and then the enter the map and change the time. Going to the home menu seems to signal to the game to make the respawns… so usually the next rotation or the very next one after that if not. It’s usually pretty quick
Very clear video, thx!
Thanks for the kind words!
I’m setting up a moose grind on MEDVED. I’m finding within almost all my herd zones there are solo bulls. For example, I find a herd zone with 5 moose total (2 males, 3 females). The herd indicator on the ground says it’s a solo male then a herd of 4 (1 bull 3 cows). What should I do about this? Do you set up and shoot based on the herd indicator or the animals in the zone?
Animals in the zone, if you are herd managing that’s the whole population of moose on Medved. I have a moose guide video as well
@@JBizHunts I watched that too. So if you’re herd managing then you’d go off the indicator? By going off the zones, are you constantly having to re-find where the solo that was in a herd zone went after shooting it?
@@R3C0NF1GUR1NG that’s why said solo zones are almost its own grind because of having to refind them. Herd management is hard but rewarding
@@JBizHunts Thanks man! Appreciate the response! Subbing!
I‘m currently grinding for the GO Reddeer, I’ve about 12 level 9 deers on my map. When should I shoot them down ? Should I wait until I have 15 level 9‘s?
Are you solo male’s managed (level 5 or lower?)… if the answer is no, I would go shoot them down since you have 12 stacked. If the answer is yes, stacking is actually hurting your current grind as the great one is more likely to spawn off larger kills (diamonds are the largest) so, it’s basically slowing down your herd and your respawns may be smaller which may slow the go from appearing. So, I’d kill then if you are satisfied with your solo’s and just start grinding and shooting the largest male at each zone, reset the time, main menu, then go back and repeat
My solo zones are 5 or lower, still got some 6-8 deers walking around in other zones . Should I shoot them down until they respawn below 5‘s? Or can I shoot my 9‘s down to see what will spawn?
@@hippster7847 you should be rotating on 8-10 zones… so I would shoot down the herd zones you don’t like shooting at (poor visibility, low number of males etc) and then shoot the stacked. Move the tents for pick up tents so that way it’s fast travel, shoot, fast travel, harvest, and repeat. You can probably do all your zones in 15 minutes and increase your kills per hr. That way the 8-10 zones you rotate on you are usually killing level 8-9 for each kill… on my fallow grind I’m usually killing a max weight estimate buck each zone which increases the chances of the big guy showing up. Honestly weight plays a bigger factor than we all know.
If most of my white tail zones all consist of level one males what do I do?
Then I would pick up my tents/tripods and move to the next zone and consider them managed down. I would however, go check on them every 250 harvests to see if any stragglers respawned in those zones. There has to be high level males somewhere, so if “all zones” are low level you need to go look for additional zones or check zones you thought were shot down. Herd management is managing the whole map, not just the 16 zones you start at.
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Whitetail Herd Management guide!
So I started to fellow grind on TA. When im looking for zones i came across a guaranteed diamond on a exterior zone . What do you say should i kill it or wait ?
Kill it, it’s going to mess up your grind later as you will continue chasing his max weight estimate respawns
At main zones I only shoot mid levels so normal 3s to low 4s on moose for example when I shoot down my exterior zones right?
That’s correct
Im new to the GO grind for whitetail I've always wanted one but im not sure how to start it even with a step by step tutorial because its very tedious but im willing to try it but i just dont know where to start
I would honestly start on Layton lakes. They are concentrated to the left side of the map and there are about 65-70 zones depending on your map. Start there by just finding your zones, keeping note of what ones have the bigger max estimate weight bucks
So is the goal to shoot down zones and minimize zones and stack big animals in the non shot down zones? How do I know what zones to shoot down and how to control what zones will stack? Thanks
You got it, that’s the goal. Once all your secondary zones are shot down to minimum trophy score animals you can then harvest all your stacked animals.
@@JBizHunts so in zones where i have potential diamonds or diamonds that Im stacking do I still shoot mid level males in the stacking zones just as I would in the zones Im not stacking in?
I had 8 zones stacked (Whitetails), meaning at least 1 lvl 3 on 4-5 zones and level 2's on the others. I probably did 8-10 "runs"(picking off the lvl 2s that would respawn) on these main zones & then my game suddenly stopped spawning 2s on my mains and instead spawned 2s on random exterior zones. Any idea why this would happen or how to correct it? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
LadyLegend has a great video about how she fixed her moose grind. It seems something since the retriever update that this occurs more frequently. So now I just check all my zones every 250+ harvests
How many different herds and zones can there be on a map for one species, and do i need to discover all of them? Like Layton lakes for example, is frekin huge. Do i have to discover all the zones for whitetail before I begin managing the herds?
Depends on the map: Red Deer/Fallow on te Awaroa are 35-40 zones and most other maps 65+… whitetail on Layton are concentrated on the left side of the map and are around 55+ zones… everyone’s map will be different with amount of zones and exact locations but the home ranges would be the same. I would watch ProXCK videos on TH-cam for maps for locations… moose I have 140 zones on Medved (they drink everywhere) there’s 100 on Layton and 200+ on New England. You need most if not all zones for respawn to work reliably…. Even missing a few zones could slow respawns
@@JBizHunts oh wow, thank you. That ProXCK video combined with yours is going to make starting this game so much easier
i’m currently going for my second fallow great one or even a super rare and i wish you were ps5 to come look at my setup and give me some advice. i currently have 6 diamond potential stacked and all off my other exterior zones are shot down. Do I take out the diamonds all together because i’ve been killing one and it will spawn back every 40 kills into another main shooting zone.
I just spawned a level 5 piebald lmao
When I was spawning a great one every 500 harvests I was spawning a max level ever 12-17 kills. My advice is if you are not down to atleast every 20, you may have some big 3’s in outside zones or as solo’s. I spawned 5 G1 fallow in under 4200 harvests. Also! Pick up all your kills
sweet your exactly right and thanks bro
@@JBizHuntsalso i have this issue where only one of my single male zones keeps spawning a high level 3 or low level 4 and keeps rotating thru those single male zones.
@@joshwalls8174 then you have to stack in your main shooting zones some max level bucks, let’s say 7-10 of them big boys and then go and focus on the big 3’s/4 in your solo and secondary zones
Fantastic guide with quick to the point info. Didn't realize the game went this in depth. I now know I do not want to do this. Can I still get Diamonds without doing this? Can I get great ones if I stack the species and still don't do heard management?
Yes, you can still get great ones and diamonds without herd management, the downside is they may take longer. I could do a non herd management great one guide
i dont understand any herd managed systems on any youtubers. How do you make animals spawn into certain areas and so call stack heaps of diamond potentials. I mean, apparently its all completely random spawn locations.
@@blakeharney4697 stay tuned, I’m releasing an even simpler guide! I think you are right that most TH-cam’s haven’t explained it simple enough.
@@JBizHunts you've said the same thing. Shoot high levels down than pack up and move because respawns won't respawn there. How do you and everyone else know this. Those high level animals that will respawn. Can you make them respawn where you want them too
@@blakeharney4697 my newest HM video launched and I tried to simplify it even more and I talk about respawns! Go check it out!
Is it possible for single zones to go into your herds?
Yes it is, it’s more prevalent with some animals compared to others. Like Moose and Red Deer when you are finding zones sometimes have a solo male attached to a herd zone. You wait for the respawn but it won’t come because you actually have to rediscover the need zone. That’s why you start off with 40 zones and by the end of your grind have 45. Another instance is you may shoot too many males in the herd before they have time to respawn and sometimes a male will break off and become a solo. There is a skill that you can put a skill point into that allows you to see how many animals are in a herd when you click on the need zone indicator so you know if it’s solo or not.
What map is that and what type of animals are on that one
@@FNC_goofyahh a lot of the footage in this video was shot on the map “Te Awaroa” based on New Zealand. One of my favourite maps and the best to grind Fallow Deer (in the video) and Red Deer. Other animals on that map are Sika Deer, Feral Pigs, Merriam Turkey, Mallard Ducks, Chamois and Feral Goats.
Hey I've got a question what am I supposed to do if half of my whitetail drink zones disappeared because I had everything managed and had my first great one I decided to stack and now I lost it's zone
@@beaur2552 you have to rediscover the zone. That’s why it’s always best practice to check your whole home range again for stragglers or zones that had moved. Good luck! Let me know how it goes!
@@JBizHunts so will the great one still be on my map? Just somewhere else
@@beaur2552 if there is a great one it could be on your map, however, sometimes zones move around or split as you grind and manage your herds. So every 250-500 harvests I go and check all the lakes and rivers to see if I have an herds I haven’t discovered or moved
@JBizHunts here's the thing I went on a dif map to hunt red deer and came back to Layton and 90 percent of my white tail drink zones where gone and 1 of those zones had a great one. I have been searching and found 7 zones with one having a max lvl 3 but I haven't found the great 1
@@beaur2552 damn! Your on PC? Could it be something wonky with your save file?
Ik it's kinda dumb but I was wondering I you could help me a little bit. I want to white tail grind on Layton and I was wondering if you could kind of guide me through it. Of course you don't have too
Hey, I’d love to help. It just so happens I started a Layton Lakes Whitetail G1 grind less than a week ago. I’m only 300 Harvests in so far. I’ve found 60 zones and I used ProXCK’s Layton Lakes guide video as a reference to find all my zones. What are your questions?
@@JBizHunts that's it thanks
I wanna do this but its hard to buy ammo without dropping my money like crazy😂😂 too expensive
@@opplxss with the new updated you can set your tent closer to the zone ideal 150m. You could do a fallow grind on te Awaroa. Use the ranger .243 with soft points (free ammo) and just hop around getting decent money 1k+ and no cost to ammo… do I feel there’s a concept vid idea in this reply?
@JBizHunts if it's possible yes it could be a vid concept, also can a whitetail grind be done with just using the ranger? I'm pretty sure yea?
@@opplxss oh yes! Ranger would work decent on a fallow or whitetail grind.. even tahr
So do you only start shooting animals in your main zones once you’ve shot down all the other zones that you don’t want to hunt at that’s the only part I cant understand lol 😂
No, you shoot main zones and secondary zones at the same time. It’s a way to hopefully move max weight bucks from the secondary zones into your main zones. The only time you are not shooting a main zone is if you are stacking max level males.
@@JBizHunts ok thanks a lot man really helps
Ok...maybe your target audience is people who already know a lot about the game. 🤷♂
I am fairly new to the game, and wanted to learn about Herd Management...but then you say things like:
"Once I have stacked some diamond-potential animals in my herd zones, I then focus on the solo zones and grind them down to smaller levels, because you have to keep re-finding them. Once you’ve got them ground down to where you find them acceptable, then you can go back to the herd zones" and I'm lost...
What's a herd zone?
What's a solo zone?
What do you mean by re-finding them?
How do you ground them down?
What's an acceptable level?
I get that people want to support your content - so do I, but I'll give you honest feedback. For those of us who could REALLY use this information the most, that is not "clear", "easy", or "simple".
You may as well have said: "When your flysenhypher turns chartreuse and there are no wumpumdumpems near the klipsynurdle, just hyperinvert the plucksonic fiv and you'll have some decent deer in the drink zones."
Hey, great comment and you are correct, here management videos are designed for people who have played a bit and have a grasp on the game to want to move to a specific gameplay like herd management. I am working on some new content for the new year “beginner video” and a few others. To answer your questions I’ll use my fallow deer grind on Te Awaroa as an example: Everyone’s map will be a little different on the placement of their maps drink zones but all drink zones will be within the animals home range. Most maps will have between 35-40 drink zones for fallow. A drink zone is a 200M area where the same animal or animals will return everyday during their drink time. There are solo drink zones that contain 1 male and herd drink zones that usually have 2 males and 3 females. When you shoot one male the zone stays the same in a herd zone and will respawn a new male to take its place and hence you can rinse and repeat the action. Solo male zones work different. If you shoot a solo male it will delete their zone as there are no more “active” members in the herd keeping the zone alive. Then you will have to refind that respawn at a brand new solo male zone. Thats why I don’t shoot solo zones unless I have enough high level bucks in my main herd zones to hopefully make the respawns of the solo zones smaller. On my grind specifically I was okay with any size 3 males but if it was a solo male at level 4 I was dropping that big boy like a bad habit. I hope that explains enough! Feel free to follow up with any additional comments as I try to engage anyone who has like or engaged with my content! Happy hunting.
Nice video but u forgot the most important thing. U must play a lot to gain money to set up all these things
You are correct, herd management is not for newer players and 256k for 16 tents to start is tough. I’m thinking in making a video about the easiest herd management grind to do to learn and gain cash before starting a great one grind.
How do I get Low lvl in the zones i dont like and high in the zones i wanna main
Stacking in zones you like and keep shooting the zones you don’t until you eventually get lower bucks/bulls
@@JBizHuntsby stacking and leaving diamond potential animals how do I know I will ever see those high level ones again? Also what is considered "diamond potential"
Also is a zone considered shot down if i return to it multiple times during drink time and nothing is there or is that just RNG and the deer haven't arrived yet
@@thatjitjusto766 that’s just drink zones in general and has nothing to do with RNG. RNG just dictates what repawns after a kill. Try coming to the drink zone 1 to 1.5 HRs after it starts, do the 1 minute trick or go to another zone and return
@@thatjitjusto766 your animals don’t change unless you harvest them and the same animals will always come back to the same need zone. So, leaving a max level animal to stack you don’t have to worry because when you come back to the need zone the next rotation they will be there.
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I hate hm
It’s honestly not for everyone. I’m actually in the middle of the discussion on the stance. I have a video on initial spawns and love just going out and finding diamonds and rares on my maps and on Multiplayer, but I use HM for great one grinding. There is evidence that points to a correlation in using HM and getting a great one to spawn. I have a career so my 1-2 hours a day of play I would never see a great one in my time without using it and I have 8. Thanks for the comment! Hopefully you watch my non-HM content
@@JBizHunts idc about people doing it I’ve done it it’s just sooo boring I’d rather just go around and kill different species of diamonds
@@EternaldirtXXx agreed! I get more enjoyment from finding new trophies! I even reset my game to a new game (you keep your trophy lodge) but get fresh maps! It’s where I got all my 10 trophies in 6 minute videos were from scouring my solo maps
I have one question. Am I supposed to shoot down my exterior zones and then once those are shot down I move to my main lakes or do I hunt them all at the same time. I have about 5 diamonds stacked on my map rn but some arent at my main lakes. Do I shoot those and continue or do I keep them stacked. Also how do I keep my respawns from going to my shot down lakes?
@@VincentDeCarlo-t3p To answer all your questions: You have to shoot your exterior and main zones at the same time (unless your main zone has no shooters because they are stacked with max weight estimate males/diamond potentials). The reason you have to shoot both is because respawns swap zones and a level 2 bull moose in your main zone can swap with a level 4 max weight estimate bull in a shooter zone. By not shooting both is how you end up keeping big males in your exterior zones. I would decided if would shoot those diamond guys in the exterior and a small male in my main and hope they swap.
@@JBizHunts thank you!!! I decided to shoot the diamonds that weren’t in my main zones. So when choosing a main zone I’m free to shoot lvl 1s and it won’t affect the grind