Ses 9: Forward and Futures Contracts I

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  • MIT 15.401 Finance Theory I, Fall 2008
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    Instructor: Andrew Lo
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  • @alwaystoyou123
    @alwaystoyou123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    His analogies are always on point. You better understand the concepts when you listen to his analogies. Amazing Professor and intellectual.

    • @jacoboribilik3253
      @jacoboribilik3253 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he hasn't made any significant breakthroughs so he's not a great intellectual. He's a smart guy and a very good professor.

  • @user-tm8wy1hx7n
    @user-tm8wy1hx7n 9 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    excellent... his lectures tells a whole new perspective... This is very different from the book reading of what futures and forwards are... Infact he cleared my year long doubts :) BTW thanks MIT for sharing

    • @hannukoistinen5329
      @hannukoistinen5329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What books did you read?

    • @rishabhghosh155
      @rishabhghosh155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hannukoistinen5329 Brealey & Myers being followed in this course

  • @mumuxi8823
    @mumuxi8823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    funny that today 2020.04.20 oil price is < 1 dollar / barrel

    • @qwerty6574
      @qwerty6574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hopefully you didn't buy puts with that price in mind

  • @rnavarrorubio
    @rnavarrorubio 8 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    He is such a great professor.

  • @sudhirpatil3434
    @sudhirpatil3434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Prof is really interested in teaching -
    he makes complex stuff simple!
    By the way he seems to be genius...

    • @himjanand2034
      @himjanand2034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      would u like to work with me through this course if u r still studying this ?

    • @ajibolaoshunnuga8441
      @ajibolaoshunnuga8441 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Himja Nand I am. Are you?

    • @rahulsolai
      @rahulsolai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@himjanand2034 i would

  • @weebgrinder-AIArtistPro
    @weebgrinder-AIArtistPro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like how he's explaining current monetary policy at the beginning

  • @rohank2825
    @rohank2825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @55:40 this happened during covid-19 pandemic during march 2020, demand for oil dropped suddenly, and they were ready to supply to fill the contract.
    As the no body had storage solution oil price went negative at that time.

  • @theasz3012
    @theasz3012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's great. Thanks for sharing.
    Long live MIT

  • @amcgregor679
    @amcgregor679 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Funny, had he had actually agreed to buy oil at $40/barrel in February 2009 (roughly 6 months from when this was made) he would have profited.

  • @Xoro-rbk
    @Xoro-rbk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    46:42 If any one didn't get the joke on AAA rating bonds. I will highly recommend you to watch the Oscar winning movie - The Big Short (2015)

  • @andrewstoehr
    @andrewstoehr ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What a privilege to be able to watch this over and over again with instant replay for free. What a public good this is

    • @jacoboribilik3253
      @jacoboribilik3253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Education should be a free, essential resource.

  • @alexlee557
    @alexlee557 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    29:37 today after 3 years oil barrel costs USD 48

    • @VoltageLP
      @VoltageLP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      less than $10 12 years later hahaha, so much for oil scarcity

    • @onceappuonatime
      @onceappuonatime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oil price is negative as of April 23 2020

    • @naderetaiwi4683
      @naderetaiwi4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onceappuonatime should have bought that goddamn forward contract and sold for $40.

  • @BoloBouncer
    @BoloBouncer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly that visual of "If you're sales report is one currency, it's basically the opposite of selling in this other currency" really made things click for me.

  • @manavkashyap1927
    @manavkashyap1927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the discussion, everybody is welcomed with as many questions as possible.

  • @RaylinRecords
    @RaylinRecords 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    14:54 - I was listening to a podcast recently from Robert Kiwosaki, and he indicated his involvement in investing in Uranium and other commodities. Does anyone know why he would be interested in this venture? He was also speaking about Warren Buffet buying Gold miner and how he's buying other commodities like agriculture. It's interesting that during this pandemic, he would buy Uranium. He didn't explicitly say why. Does anyone know?

  • @RaylinRecords
    @RaylinRecords 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    18:36 - This is also very interesting because American Barrick is considered a safe-haven in gold mining and market volatility. During the pandemic, Warren Buffet, who had an aurophobia, decided to invest in this gold mining company. According to my research, gold mining is a good way to hedge against concerns about rising inflation and is a safe-haven in very volatile markets. Does anyone agree or have additional information?

    • @sgpleasure
      @sgpleasure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To hedge against Inflation, you are better off buying Gold ETFs. Get exposed to Gold as an asset and remove the company specific risks with American Barrick.

    • @ozcanyldz1718
      @ozcanyldz1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sgpleasure well i heard buffet doesnt like anything that doesnt have cash flow so cant say i would be surprised that he invesst in mining company rather than buying gold or gold etf :) also he probably know the company well enough to bet on it so he can get extra earnings from growth of the company in addition to rising(if) gold price.

  • @ABWprod
    @ABWprod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Here we go about Argentine again

    • @parthsrikanth2627
      @parthsrikanth2627 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      exactly this girl is so annoying

  • @SmartInvestor
    @SmartInvestor 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This topic was always a bit confuse for me, but now it is clear :). Thank you so much for sharing this content.

    • @NazriB
      @NazriB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lies again? FAS FUS

  • @robertkelly9836
    @robertkelly9836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oil price 3-3-22 Brent crude 118.11.

  • @kasivamutisya7172
    @kasivamutisya7172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lecturer.

  • @oussamachouichi5677
    @oussamachouichi5677 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You rock Professor. Thank you

  • @msa3533
    @msa3533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    literally the best timing for a finance course lol

  • @prdtrader
    @prdtrader 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trading is a business ,who understand that they will succeed,off course you need a system to give you an edge and discipline.What a system does ,it will show you entry ,exit,how much you can risk,if you stick to the system you will be disciplined.But saying that only your risk to reward ratio will bail you out at the end of the day.

  • @mmx914
    @mmx914 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am glad I found these awesome lectures.
    Thank you very much!

  • @maxberghofer4775
    @maxberghofer4775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and great prof

  • @Tom-tb7sq
    @Tom-tb7sq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Guy at 29:00 is laughing now with the negative spot price and the oil market in contango

  • @hosszu2010
    @hosszu2010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am teaching very similar material (undergrad though) and I am watching him to learn how to teach better. Great service to share these videos, thank you.

  • @normanjtongmd
    @normanjtongmd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    $40/barrel of oil?
    DEAL!
    (iT IS 29.71 TODAY!)

    • @arupian666
      @arupian666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jay Musting Ha ! Yeah, I'd love crude @ $40/barrel right now... my long calls wouldn't be looking so unhappy....

    • @alexb8560
      @alexb8560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yeah? A month ago it was -$38.

  • @Life_with_Darnell
    @Life_with_Darnell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would there be countries that would be opposed of the idea of using blockchain technology? 😅

  • @zenglin01
    @zenglin01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So so so so great professor!!!!!

  • @kopde
    @kopde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder if anyone in that audience is a billionaire yet...

    • @parthsrikanth2627
      @parthsrikanth2627 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      probably not but who knows

  • @aku2rabie
    @aku2rabie 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is soooo good! now got the real basics in ma head

  • @monsiribalsook6017
    @monsiribalsook6017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, professor.

  • @kartikeygarg3694
    @kartikeygarg3694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol oil price went negative in 2020.

  • @mikerosy6924
    @mikerosy6924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a person with substantial science/arts of finance and statistics background, he explains it extremely well patiently. I’m surprised this is a MIT fin402 course; students are asking weak questions. Then again, im 36 years old and have been a Wall Street junky since I was 14. Cheers 🥂 folks, hope you’ll succeed.

    • @treyk7239
      @treyk7239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's because it's an mba course; not everyone is coming into the program with prior finance or business education. I'm undergraduate and just getting into finance and this is really simple to follow even without the supplemental textbook readings.

    • @liamtarr
      @liamtarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People are coming here to learn, no such thing as a weak question.

  • @amrahabbasov5267
    @amrahabbasov5267 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A brilliant professor with incredible teaching skills.

  • @pwadamdennis2345
    @pwadamdennis2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very insightful lectures

  • @BC-lz4sv
    @BC-lz4sv 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Andrew Lo

  • @ayubwangera4833
    @ayubwangera4833 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very informative

  • @muhammadaliimranbjalaludin653
    @muhammadaliimranbjalaludin653 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn I wish I studied finance in America, such a useful lecture

  • @neelmoradiya1389
    @neelmoradiya1389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🙏👍👍

  • @harryhu3090
    @harryhu3090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at the oil price now...

  • @HassanAli-mb8cv
    @HassanAli-mb8cv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will this work for the Indian markets, cuz I am in INDIA

  • @thinkmackay8954
    @thinkmackay8954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lecture 👌 Thanks.

  • @badrakhariunchimeg1031
    @badrakhariunchimeg1031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some times it's just that hard how you people manage all together

  • @sajalsalahuddin5861
    @sajalsalahuddin5861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would the changing future contract prices relate to the strategic pricing of Soy bean product by the manufacturer who buying the soybeans from the farmer?

  • @gyuyu6243
    @gyuyu6243 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    43:38

  • @badrakhariunchimeg1031
    @badrakhariunchimeg1031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I buy gas don't khow how gas station undergoes structure don't have to khow it as long as people pay for km

  • @Chris-ez2sc
    @Chris-ez2sc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    25:18

  • @angryjalapeno
    @angryjalapeno 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand; professor derides people who want to suspend mark to market but then goes ahead and say that prices are wrong when there is no liquidity. But that's exactly the problem with some interest rate products at the time; there were no liquidity therefore the prices are not valid and therefore should not be used for marking to market.

    • @duartepombo551
      @duartepombo551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Although the price is not valid, theoretically it is still the best guess there is, meaning that you should take that price as valid for the time being I guess

  • @marcogelsomini7655
    @marcogelsomini7655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:01:05 that's interesting

  • @ItsRhssoo
    @ItsRhssoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent

  • @hugom6388
    @hugom6388 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are the 'brent seas'?

  • @johnstfleur3987
    @johnstfleur3987 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I AM L."

  • @pratekag
    @pratekag 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uranium - 235

  • @daphnecheung1026
    @daphnecheung1026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Online brokerages are so popular now.

  • @NimitKhuranaa
    @NimitKhuranaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:01:00
    if forward contract's price is 15$ 1 month into contract, then why the value of contract not 5$ at t=0, when spot price = 160 and forward price = 165$?

    • @sgpleasure
      @sgpleasure 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Refer back to his lectures on Net Present Value. The forward price $165 is the value in the future. The spot price is NOW.

    • @NimitKhuranaa
      @NimitKhuranaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sgpleasure thanks

  • @johnstfleur3987
    @johnstfleur3987 ปีที่แล้ว

    "15."

  • @MrAbdulaziz05
    @MrAbdulaziz05 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    im going to* get smart and get back to you prof .peace

  • @arrowb3408
    @arrowb3408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming here to get the forward contract rule and principles in European style. Yes, got all what I want from the Critical Concept. Yeah.
    Time changes rapidly compared the time of this lecture esp the prices. But the main principle of finance is THE SAME. HAHAHA

    • @weebgrinder-AIArtistPro
      @weebgrinder-AIArtistPro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So are European and American forwards and futures contracts similar?

  • @AufBerghofNAM
    @AufBerghofNAM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These forward markets are highly liquid *Coughs*

  • @Signonthisline
    @Signonthisline 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Money printer go brrrrrrrr

  • @forheuristiclifeksh7836
    @forheuristiclifeksh7836 ปีที่แล้ว

    46:14

  • @ayamkampus7385
    @ayamkampus7385 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:40

  • @sethwils6077
    @sethwils6077 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @Zoheba
    @Zoheba 10 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Kanye West doing his MBA :-P He's on the right side sitting :P

    • @noueruz-zaman7894
      @noueruz-zaman7894 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      haaaa.this comment made my day

    • @MichaelTheThinker
      @MichaelTheThinker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kanye wishes this was him.

    • @VNH05
      @VNH05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In 2021 Kanye has already 4 kids with Kim and filed for divorce ☺️

  • @unknownx2k7
    @unknownx2k7 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to the wonderful andrew lo

  • @johnstfleur3987
    @johnstfleur3987 ปีที่แล้ว

    "PRIME."(61)

  • @johnstfleur3987
    @johnstfleur3987 ปีที่แล้ว

    V.

  • @arrowb3408
    @arrowb3408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 3:30 that foreign female student brought up numerous lengthy comments without any point at all but her personality speech show. Come on. What is her point among whole bunch of words?.....STF

    • @no_type0122
      @no_type0122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's ur point writing that?

    • @boo7840
      @boo7840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “foreign” countries have financial markets that function on the same economic grounds that ours do. She lived through a similar situation that occurred in Argentina and wanted to share her experience. Hope that helps bro

    • @atlas.shrugged.alex.delarge
      @atlas.shrugged.alex.delarge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Average Argy, so self important and trying to show off

  • @Dboyvc1
    @Dboyvc1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who the hell is this guy?

    • @scrubbreviews9482
      @scrubbreviews9482 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +Danny Riley a finance professor at MIT with a PhD in econ from harvard that founded a quant investment company. he governed the boston exchange and is an editor for like 5 stat journals.

    • @MyKkata
      @MyKkata 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      who the hell r U?

    • @lincha3216
      @lincha3216 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +MyKkata LOL

    • @viprawsrivastava8824
      @viprawsrivastava8824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      big daddy!!