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  • MIT 15.401 Finance Theory I, Fall 2008
    View the complete course: ocw.mit.edu/15-...
    Instructor: Andrew Lo
    License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA
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  • @luishoyos3944
    @luishoyos3944 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    god bless this guy!!!! my finance professor is so bad, I cannot understand anything in class. here everything seems very simple

    • @RaylinRecords
      @RaylinRecords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I agree! I love the visualizations he creates for his students.

    • @Emin1896589
      @Emin1896589 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      where are you working by now?:D

  • @additeachxo
    @additeachxo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This man is amazing.. very knowledgeable & good at explaining. Well done MIT

  • @Phillip-sv7rr
    @Phillip-sv7rr 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The exchange between lecturer and students is amazing.

  • @bonze9347
    @bonze9347 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Thanks to MIT for sharing and thanks to Prof Lo for explaining this well!

  • @klam77
    @klam77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Never explained anywhere else SO clearly! Brilliant.

  • @9BoStOnGeOrGe
    @9BoStOnGeOrGe 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    For some reason this is easier to follow than an undergrad class in financial economics...

    • @gregorybattis9588
      @gregorybattis9588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Instructor quality.

    • @anidasyahla1929
      @anidasyahla1929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agree

    • @gregorybattis9588
      @gregorybattis9588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was watching this video again on my alternative account a few minutes ago and just saw this comment again. The first words in my head were instructor quality which is what I wrote a year ago. I've completed more classes in finance now and this guy taught me more in like ~20 hours of watch time than what I learned, so far in all of my undergrad. I am not exaggerating either and it should say that because I am coming back to these on my spring break in 2021 to watch these again.

    • @offwallstreet6386
      @offwallstreet6386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gregorybattis9588 i completely agree, this course has been very useful to me and im spending my spring break watching these! do you know if this course was taught to undergrads at MIT or was it a graduate level course?

    • @gregorybattis9588
      @gregorybattis9588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@offwallstreet6386 Graduate level class for MBA students.

  • @Greg_Chase
    @Greg_Chase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I taught software engineering at the university level for 5 years. This is an able communicator. Very good, peaceful, and engaging attitude.
    This would be a very popular professor where I went to undergrad and grad school (UC Berkeley). I bet his lecture materials are organized and accurate. All my peers at Cal would try to get into his courses.
    It's a blessing that MIT knows how to choose which profs to make available to the public. Thank you MIT!
    .

  • @mrmagorium12
    @mrmagorium12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow this is fantastic, my university finance professors suck! So happy this is a free resource online for anyone who wishes to learn

  • @JK-sy4ym
    @JK-sy4ym 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    this is one of the best processor on MITOpencourse. Respect.

  • @Elaba_
    @Elaba_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is not wasting time writing things down on a board. If I watch the other MIT-courses on TH-cam with other teachers I get the unpleasant feeling the quality of teaching can have a huge impact on succeeding to get your diploma.

  • @arthurkodama
    @arthurkodama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Increadible class, very easy language!
    The explanation for the Nobel Prize model economic simplification is the best part 1:02:00!!!

  • @johnlee2004
    @johnlee2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Netflix is a stock that’s negatively correlated with a market downturn. Now I just need a time machine to go back 8 years so I can get a kudos from the professor!

    • @theWebWizrd
      @theWebWizrd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You also need a time machine to take advantage of it, seeing as that covariance only describes a past movement and there is little reason why it would predict future covariance. That is why the theory presented in this lecture does not translate to reality very well. Perhaps the more dynamic model he mentions does, but I doubt it. Sadly it is a fundamental problem with using statistics for stock analysis.

  • @lizy4372
    @lizy4372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    55:38 "Because Warren Buffett beat it (market) in the past, do you think he's going to beat it in the future?". This actually does make some sense, all those portfolio analysis were based on historical data. So portfolio analysis is basically saying "market was behaving this way in the past, so we assume it is going to behave like this in the future." Whis is a big assumption, and I admit this assumption seems more solid - comparing trust historical market data than trust Buffett's historical performance. But I am yet convinced this is a much better practice.

    • @theWebWizrd
      @theWebWizrd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, at its core it is not coherent to question whether Buffet's future performance will be similar to his past performance while at the same time building a whole theory on stock returns being static and unchanging. In fact, baked into their assumption is that Berkshire Hathaway will perform similarly in the future to the past.The market quite obviously does not behave the way this model is suggesting, so it is very difficult to see its use and limitations clearly.

  • @sel5069
    @sel5069 8 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    1:05:22 capm

  • @yulei4426
    @yulei4426 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    what a wonderful explanation. so clear

  • @dhruvjoshi8744
    @dhruvjoshi8744 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i ain't switiching side but i just love this professor.

  • @MrSyCoe
    @MrSyCoe 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is a typo on Slide 37 at 4:18. wIBM should be wIBM-squared.

    • @janelledavis8309
      @janelledavis8309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I noticed as well. Yes it should be squared

  • @mohamudmohameddaar48
    @mohamudmohameddaar48 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you professor a great lecturer

  • @hl3641
    @hl3641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    57:00 ab, professor seemed to like high fee active managing mutual fund over zero fee warren buffet… also, acc. to SPIVA 90% mutual funds underperform 0.03% fee sp500 index etf .. so.. prof. Lo wrong?

    • @craigshilton667
      @craigshilton667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree a room full of people laughing at warren buffet. Thank god time has proved them all wrong 🙏. In the short team the market and life is a voting machine over long term its a weighing machine.

    • @theWebWizrd
      @theWebWizrd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, mutual fonds don't hold the market portfolio, they try to deviate from it. So they are not on that tangent line. So in a sense, this model captures why mutual funds fail. It was theory like this that gave us market cap weighted index funds to begin with, as the professor mentioned.

  • @mustavogaia2655
    @mustavogaia2655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think this isthe second time the professor refers to the next class 15.403. Can't this be also released on this channel?

  • @versystudio822
    @versystudio822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing lectures, indeed

  • @rajnikanth6947
    @rajnikanth6947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Professor is exceptionally good.

  • @herp_derpingson
    @herp_derpingson 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    41:50 The indifference curve is in the third dimension.
    It is all possible portfolios you can construct whose tangent-line-frontier point is same.

  • @bluesbros83
    @bluesbros83 9 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I wish I could go to this university

  • @cheukchan2968
    @cheukchan2968 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you draw a portfolio with 3 stocks on a curve? The weighting vector has a dimension of 3, [w1, w2, w3], even w3=1-w1-w2, you still need w1 and w2, it will be a portfolio surface instead of curve

  • @ambarvideos
    @ambarvideos 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brilliant !

  • @crimony3054
    @crimony3054 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you conceptualize a company as an aggregation of different business lines, where each business line has its own rate of return, then each business, like IBM, GM, and Motorola, is already a portfolio of other businesses. Consequently, the idea that you never want all your money in one company is a slippery concept. Assembling companies into one bottom line results in either a portfolio, or a mutual fund, or a diversified corporation itself. What distinguishes each of these baskets of assets is how much control you have in shifting the proportion of each constituent asset. If it's your portfolio, you can change it each day. If it's a mutual fund, the fund managers decide how much of each company to own. If it's the company itself, the directors decide which lines of business will be expanded or sold off. The market force that's always at work is risk==return. Hence, if you believe that diversification is desirable, just know that the lower risk comes with a lower expected return. Markets will always return to efficiency. But in the near term, you can achieve economic profits from market inefficiencies.

  • @ibraheemmoosa
    @ibraheemmoosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there any reason that this portfolio theory is restricted to public equity and T-bills? There are many classes of assets beyond these two. For example, corporate bonds, gold, private equity etc. How do these figure into this theory?

    • @mariasmoczynska8937
      @mariasmoczynska8937 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not restricted. For example you can consider gold as a risk-free asset and corporate bonds as a risky asset etc. You just need the data. However, T-bills are considered "the most risk-free asset" and that is the reason they are being used so frequently.

  • @iSk00L
    @iSk00L 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good lecture - although I would have preferred if he explored an example of the calculation of the tangency portfolio given a risk-free rate.

    • @philippmayer5383
      @philippmayer5383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +iSk00L Yes he should have shown up a calculation for the tangency portfolio. But let me help you. In this model everyone (every market participant) invests either in the tangency portfolio or in T-Bills (risk free asset)...or in a combination of those two. So if everyone invests in the tangency portfolio how can the market be in equilibrium? For example: Can the equilibrium be 50% of the porftolio is IBM and 50% is Motorola? No, because if everyone only invests in those two stocks the price of GM would be zero. Why would someone not buy a stock for zero dollars if one would have the opportunity to generate dividends from that stock. So the market participants would also buy Motorola. The price wouldnt be zero. And that procedure would be repeatet until every stock has a fair value. And the outcome is, that everyone would have the stock in exactly the same ratio as its market capitalization....So every portfolio includes k*IBM, k*Motorola, k*GM....To sum it up: Tangency-Portfolio = every asset on the market 1*.....And that is exactly what ETFs try to make a replica of.

    • @iSk00L
      @iSk00L 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Philipp Mayer thanks, but I know already and passed the exam. But thanks anyway

  • @user-gr1on2ho8e
    @user-gr1on2ho8e 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome lecturer. fantastic .

  • @arguy337
    @arguy337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15:33 Capital Market Line

  • @ultimatedilan
    @ultimatedilan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why do they have names on their desk

  • @OnlyGreenTrades
    @OnlyGreenTrades 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a bone head… I’ve been long $TMV (inverse 20 yr bond) and I’m up +40% in 4 weeks. Crazy cycle!

  • @kozlowsiki2000
    @kozlowsiki2000 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic!

  • @pbbtrk
    @pbbtrk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm confused, at 30:46 when the prof. was answering the question regarding adding an extra stock to reduce the overall st.d. of the port.
    He said that as long as the correlation of the new stock is anything

    • @pbbtrk
      @pbbtrk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just used chatgpt to calculate an example case where I add a new stock with very positive correlations to the existing one, turns out my overall st.d actually increased which is not what the prof. said.

    • @pbbtrk
      @pbbtrk 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Example case:
      Existing Portfolio: Contains stocks A and B with a correlation of 0.4.
      Adding Stock C: Stock C has high correlations with both A and B, say 0.8 and 0.9, respectively.
      In this case, adding Stock C could lead to an increase in the portfolio's standard deviation due to the high correlations. The increased exposure to correlated risk factors may outweigh the diversification benefits.

  • @dmon112us1
    @dmon112us1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next Warren Buffet = Mark Cuban = Michael Sailor = Jay Clayton

  • @kunalchakraborty5604
    @kunalchakraborty5604 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is it actually possible to have zero weight in a particular stock in market portfolio?
    Because a zero weight implies that nobody wants it which will actually lead to decrease in price and hence an increase in its expected return. Any insights on this ?

    • @Elaba_
      @Elaba_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If a stock price is going to zero or a very low price there's a propably a good fundamental reason for that. Only if it's undervalued you might expect a positive return within the next 10 years.

  • @christopher8220
    @christopher8220 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @4:25- Shouldn't the weight for IBM be wIBM^2, like Motorola and GM's weights?

  • @user-ew1uo5ev4e
    @user-ew1uo5ev4e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s a bonbon?

  • @chuanqisun
    @chuanqisun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are their online visualization tools for us to play with the portfolio theory? I really want to put in a few stocks and see my risk-reward tradeoff options.

  • @zvzivz
    @zvzivz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it!

  • @user-st6is9ml4x
    @user-st6is9ml4x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:01:20 and continue--
    'held in proportion to their market value'... I didn't get it..does this mean their weight proportions compared to entire market capitalisation??

  • @rahuldevgun8703
    @rahuldevgun8703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superb

  • @hl3641
    @hl3641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll never go to grad school if I knew better, fun and much economic class like this…lol

  • @rakeshsurampalli
    @rakeshsurampalli ปีที่แล้ว

    how to create the parabola or the curve?

  • @pinakinjaiswal7984
    @pinakinjaiswal7984 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the example of 3 stocks the return of Motorola is the highest. So if you combine the other two stocks with Motorola how can there be return higher than that of Motorola. Because return on a Portfolio is simply the weighted avg. of each portfolio. So how is it that the 'efficient frontier' (3 stocks) if passes ABOVE motorola ? Even if you borrow to buy Motorola still the efficient frontier should pass through Motorola.

    • @ringeringering
      @ringeringering 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because of the correlation/covariance between the stocks within this 3-stock portfolio. Due to how portfolio returns and portfolio variance are calculated, a portfolio return can be higher than any individual stock within while the portfolio variance is lower than some of the of the stocks' variances. More specifically this is due to the correlation between stocks within portfolios and the fact that low correlations result in low variances. Portfolio returns don't take into account the correlations between the stocks, so while the variance is decreased from the correlations, the returns are not.

    • @JJGS_
      @JJGS_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are absolutly correct. That graph is incorrect. it does not matter if short sales are allowed, the efficient frontier must pass by Motorola.

    • @DougFischer
      @DougFischer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JJGS_ he mentioned it in the previous lecture. The more assets in the portfolio the more cross varience terms in the equation. The coefients of these are the level of correlation so the more you add the more non perfectly correlated stocks, which shifts the curve to the left.

  • @victormundia7438
    @victormundia7438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    enjoyed the class lesson

  • @slipperyeel9206
    @slipperyeel9206 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So the government can control market demand by controlling the price of T bills.

  • @t6030056
    @t6030056 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    LSE student watching this instead of FM300

    • @adamkershski
      @adamkershski 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reading student using this for revision ;)

    • @danielklein5560
      @danielklein5560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      5 year old preparing for the harsh job market

  • @ABCDEF-jh5bp
    @ABCDEF-jh5bp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this class have recitation ?

    • @mitocw
      @mitocw  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There are written recitations, see ocw.mit.edu/courses/sloan-school-of-management/15-401-finance-theory-i-fall-2008/recitations. Best wishes on your studies!

    • @ABCDEF-jh5bp
      @ABCDEF-jh5bp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mitocw thanks you so mucn

  • @LoveMsLindi
    @LoveMsLindi 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been wondering whether the idea of diminishing marginal returns applies to people with addictions (Frank Gallagher) and ocd and if it applies to money. Can one ever get less satisfaction from accumulating more and more money (Warren Buffet, Bill Gates) or does it only apply to goods money can buy?

    • @mihal.2276
      @mihal.2276 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have 0 dollars and i give you 100 dollars, how happy would you be? Now if you have 100.000 dollars and i give you 100 dollars, how much would that increase your satisfaction?

    • @michaelbrynda1603
      @michaelbrynda1603 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mo money mo problems

  • @heohonhen
    @heohonhen 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's good, thanks teacher

  • @hamdanyoshida5918
    @hamdanyoshida5918 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    55:44 10 years later and Prof just got burned on shorting Warren Buffet

    • @ashutoshtiwari8088
      @ashutoshtiwari8088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frr ! 😂this is the comment I’m looking for !

  • @HonestFranklin
    @HonestFranklin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    세무회계도 미국세법 참고한거라 번역의 문제

  • @TheHunnyRunner
    @TheHunnyRunner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Past return and expected return are not equivalent. Doesn't make sense that IBM, or any of the other companies have a future expected return that is equivalent to their past. New CEOs, new marketplace, new market players, new competitors, new technology. Mean variance optimization works fantastic in hindsight, but does not have any predictive power.

    • @NGE0001
      @NGE0001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea i think every teach should present their return on investment before every lecture.

    • @TheHunnyRunner
      @TheHunnyRunner 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem with that is that past success is not a predictor of future success. IE if someone happens to be on the right side of a normal distribution by picking a single stock that lies within an index, it does not tell us anything about whether that was luck or skill, or whether the results are repeatable.

    • @NGE0001
      @NGE0001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and yet they use past for almost everything in investments / modeling.
      they even use it's for job hiring and job promotion.
      but more over i would not judge anyone by a one of stock but many over many years. I don't think it's too much for some to practice what they preach and show the success that comes. If the guy teaching it cannot make it work then why would I be able to...

    • @TheHunnyRunner
      @TheHunnyRunner 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have to use the past for data, but we should do so understanding the importance of statistical significance, the scientific method, and peer-review. As well as a strong understanding of the principles of mathematics (correlations, etc.) before misusing them.

    • @NGE0001
      @NGE0001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes i get that and that's great.
      But only useful if you make money from it
      If the teacher is a poor investor i want to know
      is that too much to ask?

  • @farzan848
    @farzan848 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative

  • @ramotenamosolodi2987
    @ramotenamosolodi2987 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is helpful

  • @Chadwanabe
    @Chadwanabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    so i guess amazon and all those technological stocks are negatively correlated to the markets? in these days

  • @dmon112us1
    @dmon112us1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cryptocurrency negative correlation with positive return new asset class

  • @unknownx2k7
    @unknownx2k7 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good

  • @fransronaldcarbajalgamboa200
    @fransronaldcarbajalgamboa200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!!

  • @newclear5511
    @newclear5511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:05:06

  • @phyllismaulidi4358
    @phyllismaulidi4358 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    great

  • @HonestFranklin
    @HonestFranklin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    외국어는 한글로 번역해야 함축된 의미를 되뇌어서 내 지식으로 변환가능 그래프 그리는게 시간낭비 너만의 부교재 워크북 재무관리는 번역의 문제때문에 어려운것이지 재무회계하고는 다르다

  • @pinakinjaiswal7984
    @pinakinjaiswal7984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The comment is for the "Bullet" frontier

  • @ArtMaknev
    @ArtMaknev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tried to apply those formulas to Bitcoin, got totally rekt!

  • @mbaye501
    @mbaye501 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    take it easy gym teachers

  • @madridmusic3948
    @madridmusic3948 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    37:45 Alpha

  • @johnosandra4151
    @johnosandra4151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We're hedge fund managers, boys.

  • @jeavon69
    @jeavon69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God 3:33

  • @davisoneill
    @davisoneill 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sadly, CAPM doesn't actually work.

    • @AlexChine89
      @AlexChine89 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      au contraire, they still find it applicable in certain industries

    • @AndrewChen-yh9ku
      @AndrewChen-yh9ku 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      actually CAPM does work, which is the basis of how ETF works.

    • @No_BS_policy
      @No_BS_policy ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah sadly. In general, any finance theory that relies on std deviation as measure of risk is doomed to fail. VAR, CAPM, Sharpe ratio, Beta etc all failed.

  • @bjartegunarsson2852
    @bjartegunarsson2852 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those who cant do teach
    Those who cant teach teach gym

  • @MrBTie
    @MrBTie 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "those who can't teach teach gym" HEUHEUEHUE brbr

  • @jacktaylor5937
    @jacktaylor5937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't they shut up with
    all of those questions and
    let Prof. Lee talk!

    • @RaylinRecords
      @RaylinRecords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol class participation is a % of the grade so they have to

  • @traleyton8057
    @traleyton8057 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A fifteen minutes lecture painfully prolonged to 1 1/4 hr. Yet the students struggles to comprehend.

    • @No_BS_policy
      @No_BS_policy ปีที่แล้ว

      And yet you struggled with basic english grammar🤦‍♂️