Grate video Ben. Thank you very much. BTW I asked Onefinity about the cable chain and the production cable chain will be large enough for cooling tubes according to 1F. You have our attention friend, keep up the great videos
@@MyersWoodshop if this is true then this is a shortfall. I would think a machine of this caliber most people will have a water cooled spindle and won't like having to cob up a solution for cooling lines. They should spend another couple bucks and make it right
Ok TH-cam said I reached my limit watching this video, lol. Love it. Ben if you get a minute could you give is the dimension of the actual outside of the feet? Thank you
Hi Ben! By now, "onefinity" should know that supplied stepper cables are SHORT so... why on earth we are still counting on and hoping to get the extension cables instead of making them just "a bit longer" by manufacturer... that's ridiculous!
Can you control it with a web interface like the current controller? What does it look like to load programs from a nearby computer over the network? If it's only via USB that's a dealbreaker.
You can send files wirelessly using a downloadable software called 'Masso Link.' My current CNC I use a USB stick only and it certainly isn't a dealbreaker for me, but it's all relative. You also don't need to be online to use this.
Ben, can you tell me what size dimensions your Kreg table is? I purchased the exact onefinity elite and want to get the right size bench top. Thanks! More videos on your new elite would be so cool to see! I have a 3-4 month wait for mine😢😮😊😅😂
how do you load something to thumb drive and then to machine? I just got my foreman set up( first cnc) and did elite test cut but cannot figure out how to add something else. Any help, please.
Have you tried the Masso Link for WiFi loading?Once installed and connected on yuor office computer you just drag and drop a file to it then hit send..
thanks! Liked and subscribed! Looking forward to getting mine. Would like to see video on probing process with touch probe?? Also, does the bit setter come with the Elite Foreman? Would be nice to see how bit setter works!! Thanks!
Probably a silly question. With the x50 Rails, in the Woodworker model, only spanning 32", is the "stiffy" _really_ required? I currently own the X35 woodworker that has the stiffy upgrade on it, and it is solid. Looking here for your opinion on the need. I presume with the Journeyman, it is much more realistic.
@@DavZell Ah, I missed that first time through. Rewatched it and saw the hole for the rotary attachment. I know little about CNC, so is there a specific rotary attachment for the Oneway, or will any product work? I want to make sure I buy compatible products, and spend my time machining not fighting glitches in the machine!
@@happywanderer5632 There are very active forums at their site. As this is a new product, I'd recommend getting current info when you are ready to buy. You'll get firsthand info that way.
Ben thanks for this video I am looking in to buying the journeyman X 50 do you know if it has the same controller as the one you just put together. Jeff Peters
I believe the link is to a generic MPG that would work with Masso. Did you make your own connector, as the Masso MPG comes with one and is plug and play?
Hi. Thank you for the video. How well is your dust collection working out. I’m out of room in the garage, and curious how bad it would be without an enclosure in the hobby room?
It's unbelievable that using a USB is the only way to transfer files. I much prefer using a laptop with a network share...moving that USB from laptop to the CNC would get old fast.
I’m anticipating they will along with rotary axis. I ordered the elite foreman in hopes they make those options available in the future. For a 3 year old company advancing how they are it seems logical
Very informative video BUT... As a fabricator I know that everything starts with a strong foundation, and I see so many of you guys with tables that wobble back and forth, whether it be from shotty construction to "lockable' casters... PLEASE, PLEASE do something about your tables. I GUARANTEE that if we were to watch your machine in use, we would see the table moving around. The servo's are wasting/expending toque to move the table and ALL OF ITS CONTENTS rather than putting all of their torque into moving the X or Y axis'! This only leads to reduced resolution/accuracy and poor quality cuts/moves.
Cool, what do u use for CAM generating g code,how good is it with detailed 3d parts. How fast can you push it Feed, thicknes cut per pass, tool, tool speed?
Very nice presentation. Exciting new product. A couple of comments and suggestions. I do believe that you can plug a different monitor and keyboard into this controller. Your biggest upgrade would be a new table. That table wobbles very badly on the video and will likely have a negative effect on the quality and accuracy of your cuts. A nice 6x6 built table will largely eliminate this play. Would look cool too. I wonder if you could substitute servos for the steppers? I imagine the Masso will support them.
Looks like you have the 64" Kreg table. Did you find it needed reinforcement to keep it square or from sagging in the middle? It looks like you have the sides braced.
@@gilbertgrenier4896 Is it complaining or is it feedback? How does 1F become aware that it is a problem unless someone points it out? If more people give feedback then it is more likely to be resolved by the time it ships or at least in the near future as an option. BTW, he pointed out all the beta areas and I don't think the drag chains was one of them. That why I did not comment on those. Can't wait to see how it all shakes out.
@@gilbertgrenier4896 Good point. Some remote possibility that 1F will read my post but direct communication is better. You'll have a greater 2023 in a few weeks. Me? A few months fingers crossed. Summer Christmas, lol.
Absolutely hate the pivoting screen. I’d drill through the back plate to mount it on something that does not move. Maybe something with an indexing pin but hell no to that moving around. It doesn’t seem like you can press the emergency stop with one hand. You have to hold the screen from the back with one hand and push the button with your other hand? Maybe they have better plans already and it is a simple fix to mount it yourself. Not user replaceable made me laugh like an idiot. My day job is basically just that.
excellent, just got my foreman set up today. 1st cnc ever and could not figure out how to zero out somewhere. keep the videos coming. subscribed also, thanks
I've just received my forman but still in boxes got to make another bench for it .I to is new to cnc and never had one before let's hope be both get on ok 👍
Great video! I think it’s great to see companies integrating MASSO from the factory. I think it’s a great option and looks nice too. I’m still surprised how many controllers, even on $500k machines, look like Win95 🤦♂️ lol
@@SegoMan it’s still not difficult to add a little to the GUI. They don’t have to be so stripped down. Processors and memory are cheap these days for what is needed here.
@@MyersWoodshop sure prices are increasing, but we aren’t talking top of the line Intel processors needed here. Comparatively speaking, it would cost an extra $10 for a better chip for what is needed here and to run a better gui. I’d be happy to pay that extra cost. Although I really don’t think the chips are what’s stopping companies from making their systems like like Win95. It doesn’t have to be complex to look modern.
Hello there. Would the compact router that works on the shapeoko pro work on the onefinity x50 woodworker? I ask this because I ordered the shapeoko with the router but canceled the cnc when I found out I was being charged a customs tax of $360 for shipping to canada. For some odd reason it's random, I got a call saying my order was chosen, at first I was thinking something good was happening when she told me mone was "chosen." Anyway, I told them I'm not paying so the order was canceled but the starter end mill pack already arrived and I'm assuming the router will arrive also. Just wanna make sure it will fit in the onefinity because I ordered one.
Hello, i took note of the Masso Controller, it is the solution of my research ! you vidéo is very interesting ! but i have a disability to undrestand everything ! because i am a Frenchman who is looking for good manufacturing for CNCs ! have to go through an interpreter ! but that doesn't stop me from following your videos ! 👍
What is not very clear is the makita router comes with a 6ft cord. Is that long enough? Carbide has an off brand of the Makita that comes with a 12 ft cord. Just wondering if I should purchase the carbide router.
Hello, I am bran new to cnc woodworking so I am stating from scratch have to learn everything I ordered the elite machine from oneinfinty by what I have been told it should be here around March I have my table built but I need more videos over this new machine there are not very many available that I can learn from wish I had them to watch before I ordered all the extra things I thought would work with this new machinery and now I have seen on some videos that some of it will not lol.o well right.if you would make some more video over this new elite machine so I can learn more about it I would appreciate it so much.
I like the OneFinity machines, but a CNC without dust and chip protection is not acceptable. If you try to machine metal, small chips will get on the guiderails and ball screws and it will make a mess of the seals, screw and the rails. Even wood dust is problematic. It would be an easy and cheap fix, so I don't know why they just don't fix it.
@@MyersWoodshop, you are right. Protecting the machine components is not necessary when you have a dust boot. I am sure that the machine is totally dust and swarf free at the end of the day.
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Love seeing how the new Masso controller works. Love the visualizer.
Thank you for the great overview. This will be my entry in to CNC, can't wait to begin the journey with the Elite series.
Thanks Ben for the overview, really enjoyed it. Looks Amazing! I’m looking forward to seeing future videos and projects using this! Thanks as Always
Grate video Ben. Thank you very much. BTW I asked Onefinity about the cable chain and the production cable chain will be large enough for cooling tubes according to 1F. You have our attention friend, keep up the great videos
These are the production chains.
@@MyersWoodshop if this is true then this is a shortfall. I would think a machine of this caliber most people will have a water cooled spindle and won't like having to cob up a solution for cooling lines. They should spend another couple bucks and make it right
Ok TH-cam said I reached my limit watching this video, lol. Love it. Ben if you get a minute could you give is the dimension of the actual outside of the feet? Thank you
The conversational part allows you to program at the controller.
Optical limit switches, dust... Dust collection will be a must. Should be anyway but something to consider.
yeah i see potential issues with the optical sensors and dust etc
Thank you soo very much!!! I cant wait to get my Elite! Look forward to more videos!
You are so welcome!
Been waiting for this!!
it's pretty great!
What size is your table top. Also is that the kreg table 64x64?
Excellent video! Thank you!
Hi Ben! By now, "onefinity" should know that supplied stepper cables are SHORT so... why on earth we are still counting on and hoping to get the extension cables instead of making them just "a bit longer" by manufacturer... that's ridiculous!
i agree sounds like they still gonna cheap out where they should not
Can you control it with a web interface like the current controller? What does it look like to load programs from a nearby computer over the network? If it's only via USB that's a dealbreaker.
You can send files wirelessly using a downloadable software called 'Masso Link.' My current CNC I use a USB stick only and it certainly isn't a dealbreaker for me, but it's all relative. You also don't need to be online to use this.
@@johnread7404 Good to know, thanks John
so how does vacuum turn on with the spindle?
Screen shot your F1 just in case you ever change it on purpose or accident. Used to do that for my Mach 3 because it’s got a pile of settings to lol
Great video, waiting on mine to arrive, Is that a Kreg bench, if so what size?
Cant wait for the upgrade for the JM......
it's quite an upgrade!
Ben, can you tell me what size dimensions your Kreg table is? I purchased the exact onefinity elite and want to get the right size bench top.
Thanks!
More videos on your new elite would be so cool to see! I have a 3-4 month wait for mine😢😮😊😅😂
how do you load something to thumb drive and then to machine? I just got my foreman set up( first cnc) and did elite test cut but cannot figure out how to add something else. Any help, please.
Have you tried the Masso Link for WiFi loading?Once installed and connected on yuor office computer you just drag and drop a file to it then hit send..
thanks! Liked and subscribed! Looking forward to getting mine. Would like to see video on probing process with touch probe?? Also, does the bit setter come with the Elite Foreman? Would be nice to see how bit setter works!! Thanks!
I will for sure do a video on probing! The tool setter is an add on. When i get a finalized one, i'll show it off!
Probably a silly question. With the x50 Rails, in the Woodworker model, only spanning 32", is the "stiffy" _really_ required? I currently own the X35 woodworker that has the stiffy upgrade on it, and it is solid. Looking here for your opinion on the need. I presume with the Journeyman, it is much more realistic.
'required', no. Recommended, yes, if you have a big heavy spindle.
Is there a way to attach a 4th axis? Thanks
Yes, he mentioned it and showed the connection.
@@DavZell Ah, I missed that first time through. Rewatched it and saw the hole for the rotary attachment. I know little about CNC, so is there a specific rotary attachment for the Oneway, or will any product work? I want to make sure I buy compatible products, and spend my time machining not fighting glitches in the machine!
@@happywanderer5632 There are very active forums at their site. As this is a new product, I'd recommend getting current info when you are ready to buy. You'll get firsthand info that way.
Cutting melamine and the lines are a bit jittery what do I do ?
Ben thanks for this video I am looking in to buying the journeyman X 50 do you know if it has the same controller as the one you just put together. Jeff Peters
no, the x50 uses a buildbotics based controller.
can the controller,screen & power supply be used with the older machines and do without the homing sensors
no
I believe the link is to a generic MPG that would work with Masso. Did you make your own connector, as the Masso MPG comes with one and is plug and play?
I'll do a separate video on the MPG soon!
I’ll wait for this video to c what the accuracy is like.
Is the masso touch really responsive or is there a little leg?
Hi. Thank you for the video. How well is your dust collection working out. I’m out of room in the garage, and curious how bad it would be without an enclosure in the hobby room?
It's unbelievable that using a USB is the only way to transfer files. I much prefer using a laptop with a network share...moving that USB from laptop to the CNC would get old fast.
You can move files over pc using their masso link software.
@@MyersWoodshop via USB? That is still weak. My refrigerator has network connectivity.
@@allhatnocattlews No, over the network. You can use a USB OR Masso Link on your PC to move files wirelessly to devices on the same network.
Will onefinity make a tool changer? I didn’t see it on the site
I’m anticipating they will along with rotary axis. I ordered the elite foreman in hopes they make those options available in the future. For a 3 year old company advancing how they are it seems logical
Giddy Up!!
giddy up!
sorry they want way to much for that, way way to much.
Lol. Find me a better machine at this price point that cuts anywhere near 1100 ipm
@@MyersWoodshop like you answer, but most of us cant afford anything over 1000
that is way more than just a pi inside wow
Very informative video BUT... As a fabricator I know that everything starts with a strong foundation, and I see so many of you guys with tables that wobble back and forth, whether it be from shotty construction to "lockable' casters... PLEASE, PLEASE do something about your tables. I GUARANTEE that if we were to watch your machine in use, we would see the table moving around. The servo's are wasting/expending toque to move the table and ALL OF ITS CONTENTS rather than putting all of their torque into moving the X or Y axis'! This only leads to reduced resolution/accuracy and poor quality cuts/moves.
Cool, what do u use for CAM generating g code,how good is it with detailed 3d parts. How fast can you push it Feed, thicknes cut per pass, tool, tool speed?
Very nice presentation. Exciting new product. A couple of comments and suggestions. I do believe that you can plug a different monitor and keyboard into this controller. Your biggest upgrade would be a new table. That table wobbles very badly on the video and will likely have a negative effect on the quality and accuracy of your cuts. A nice 6x6 built table will largely eliminate this play. Would look cool too. I wonder if you could substitute servos for the steppers? I imagine the Masso will support them.
Hello Myer , If you don't mind me asking, what table is that you are using? I just ordered the Foreman. And thanks for the video intro to the Foreman.
Looks like you have the 64" Kreg table. Did you find it needed reinforcement to keep it square or from sagging in the middle? It looks like you have the sides braced.
Great video can't wait till I can upgrade my journeyman with the new controller and motors
Hopefully on future versions they will have an option for an ATC spindle from AMB/kress with digital control. Stepcraft already gives you that option.
How about some new elite content…?? Thanks. Going through withdrawals. Haven’t gotten mine yet 😢
Disappointed the drag chains don't accomodate cooling lines.
Same here
@@jasonelliott2055 He says that the Elite is supposed to be a professional machine so no joypad but it can't accomodate a very popular spindle option.
@@gilbertgrenier4896 Is it complaining or is it feedback? How does 1F become aware that it is a problem unless someone points it out? If more people give feedback then it is more likely to be resolved by the time it ships or at least in the near future as an option. BTW, he pointed out all the beta areas and I don't think the drag chains was one of them. That why I did not comment on those. Can't wait to see how it all shakes out.
@@gilbertgrenier4896 Good point. Some remote possibility that 1F will read my post but direct communication is better. You'll have a greater 2023 in a few weeks. Me? A few months fingers crossed. Summer Christmas, lol.
How will this machine do with aluminum?
Absolutely hate the pivoting screen. I’d drill through the back plate to mount it on something that does not move. Maybe something with an indexing pin but hell no to that moving around. It doesn’t seem like you can press the emergency stop with one hand. You have to hold the screen from the back with one hand and push the button with your other hand? Maybe they have better plans already and it is a simple fix to mount it yourself.
Not user replaceable made me laugh like an idiot. My day job is basically just that.
It has a vesa mount (like a tv), you can mount it to a tv wall mount or computer monitor mount if you want.
Can I use Metric and Imperial Interoperable?
excellent, just got my foreman set up today. 1st cnc ever and could not figure out how to zero out somewhere. keep the videos coming. subscribed also, thanks
I've just received my forman but still in boxes got to make another bench for it .I to is new to cnc and never had one before let's hope be both get on ok 👍
Will this machine cut aluminium successfully
Great video! I think it’s great to see companies integrating MASSO from the factory. I think it’s a great option and looks nice too. I’m still surprised how many controllers, even on $500k machines, look like Win95 🤦♂️ lol
the less there is going on, the less there is to mess up!
A lot of them have an embedded (stripped down) OS
@@SegoMan it’s still not difficult to add a little to the GUI. They don’t have to be so stripped down. Processors and memory are cheap these days for what is needed here.
Haha. Chips are anything but cheap right now
@@MyersWoodshop sure prices are increasing, but we aren’t talking top of the line Intel processors needed here. Comparatively speaking, it would cost an extra $10 for a better chip for what is needed here and to run a better gui. I’d be happy to pay that extra cost.
Although I really don’t think the chips are what’s stopping companies from making their systems like like Win95. It doesn’t have to be complex to look modern.
Hello there. Would the compact router that works on the shapeoko pro work on the onefinity x50 woodworker? I ask this because I ordered the shapeoko with the router but canceled the cnc when I found out I was being charged a customs tax of $360 for shipping to canada. For some odd reason it's random, I got a call saying my order was chosen, at first I was thinking something good was happening when she told me mone was "chosen." Anyway, I told them I'm not paying so the order was canceled but the starter end mill pack already arrived and I'm assuming the router will arrive also. Just wanna make sure it will fit in the onefinity because I ordered one.
Yea jt ejll
Is your table 64x64?
you are not respondsing to all your viewers comments and questions
here is my response
Hello, i took note of the Masso Controller, it is the solution of my research ! you vidéo is very interesting ! but i have a disability to undrestand everything ! because i am a Frenchman who is looking for good manufacturing for CNCs ! have to go through an interpreter ! but that doesn't stop me from following your videos ! 👍
What is not very clear is the makita router comes with a 6ft cord. Is that long enough? Carbide has an off brand of the Makita that comes with a 12 ft cord. Just wondering if I should purchase the carbide router.
Hello, I am bran new to cnc woodworking so I am stating from scratch have to learn everything I ordered the elite machine from oneinfinty by what I have been told it should be here around March I have my table built but I need more videos over this new machine there are not very many available that I can learn from wish I had them to watch before I ordered all the extra things I thought would work with this new machinery and now I have seen on some videos that some of it will not lol.o well right.if you would make some more video over this new elite machine so I can learn more about it I would appreciate it so much.
1:01 there is actually Touch screens that work with the G3 controller, the list is on Masso's forum..
Are they going to have a network card available? Is there a compatible post in Fusion 360?
Let's go 4-wheelin'! (As in 4X4)
I see what you did there
haha
That thing is massive. I really wanted one but could only afford (convince wife) to let me get the elite woodworker. Thanks for the video.
very good video. very informative.
is it available with a real spindle and not a router?
Great video, thank you!.
now that the router and vacuum power is coming from the power supply whats the amp draw rating needed for the wall outlet and breaker ?
20amp
Thank you for the great explanation of the new elite series.
What software version do you have installed currently and using in the video demo?
5.02
Really want to see the power recovery feature!
I like the OneFinity machines, but a CNC without dust and chip protection is not acceptable. If you try to machine metal, small chips will get on the guiderails and ball screws and it will make a mess of the seals, screw and the rails. Even wood dust is problematic. It would be an easy and cheap fix, so I don't know why they just don't fix it.
Yeah, it has a dust boot…
@@MyersWoodshop, you are right. Protecting the machine components is not necessary when you have a dust boot. I am sure that the machine is totally dust and swarf free at the end of the day.
can you no longer upload your g code file via wi-fi?
You can move files over pc using their masso link software.
can flies be loaded without use of internet connection ?
Yes, via usb stick.
What does a machine like that cost?
Give or take 5k depending on accessories.
Can you access the controller remotely?
You can send files to it via WiFi and reset total parts cut but that is it..
Workshop CANDY!!!!
yes!
Feed rate adjustment on the fly is huge!
i KNOW RIGHT, kinda funny how easel already does this
@@bsr8129 What's easel?