all the pickups sound great, but it really doesn’t matter what you use sometimes you always wind up sounding like yourself whether you’re a rockstar like Mcrocklin, or a bedroom warrior like myself
Love the Polychrome DSP and combined with the Scott LePage pickups it sounds amazing. Plus the phenomenal guitar skills of Thomas McRockling gives a truly winning combination!
Playing a guitar with Fishman Fluence feels like using cheat codes lol. Incredible harmonics and clarity yet all the dynamics and feel of passive pickups...
@@McRocklin Question. I am a smooth brain who still doesnt understand how you switch voicings. Is it from the push pull knob. I plan on building a jazzmaster with a volume, tone knob, and 5 way switch. Would i be switching voicings through the tone knob that pushes and pulls? Thank u
Thanks for the comparison video. Both sound great. Though I am partial to purple I think that Scott’s would be the ones I would get for a new custom project I have in mind for a Fender strat.
I think Tim's setup has more of an aggressive tone on the bridge. The top end on both of his are a little too bright for my taste. Now Scott's set seems to be a bit on the warmer side and more balanced to my ear. I dig that set more. Awesome review and killer tones & killer licks! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
There is so much out there available to find and make "your sound". Between the pick-ups and tones, I'd start with the most cost effective approach and get the PolyChromeDSP and see what my guitar/pick-ups bring to the table. Great review and as always, great playing.🤘
Scotts are smooth and clear, Tims a bit nasally and abrasive. Guess it depends how you dial em in! No one better to put them through their paces, thanks McRocklin you damn ripper!!
you can make any pickup sound good ha-ha Can you do a video showing how you switch sounds on your plug-in with your foot pedal how do you do that??? thanks
The only difference I can tell from one pickup set to another is the color ;p. Maybe I am tone deaf, hell idk. PS - What preset is that slicer effect at 5:58?
I thought Tim's were unique signatures while Scott's were labeled "custom" meaning Tim's are new and unique while Scott's are something already existing but with the white color and gold poles? I could be completely wrong though. Both sound incredible
Scott’s are just open core classics with gold pole pieces aka fluence classics with the open humbucker look . These pickups are basically nothing new other than the color
@@thesadsamuraii7519 where did they mention they have more grit ? The official sight literally says they’re open core pickups with a different aesthetic
@@thesadsamuraii7519 I haven’t read or seen anywhere where they say the pickups were modified , maybe you misheard or misread . Everywhere I’ve seen they say the pickups are just open core pickups .
So glad I found McRocklins channel what a great player and cool guy. I'm about to pick either the Tim Henson pickups or the Abasi's or even the Fluence Open Core's what would you guys get for clean tone superiority? I'm leaning towards the Open Cores but I'm not vastly experienced. Currently have a rg421ex-blk Ibanez with stock quantum pickups.
Thanks! Imo, you can’t go wrong with the classics, but you could also check out my set which are based upon the clsssics, with some tweaks for a hyper clean tone.
Sounds great! Scott's set seems to be a more natural fit for you. A *very* good fit in fact. What are the main differences between your custom set and Scott's?
@@McRocklin When you say "split" - you are referring to "Voice 3" (the single coil voice) of the pickups , right? I listened to your demo of your own set and I liked the sound *a lot.* Especially the single-coil type sounds. However, I have some questions specifically about the singlecoil/split options that still remain unclear to me. (I've checked the Fishman website but to no avail...) *My question:* Is there any way to connect a switch to change between the inner and outer coil when selecting the single coil voicing? This would be especially useful when combining the two pickups in singlecoil-mode. I would like to be able to switch between a combination of the inner coils (the two coils being closer to each other, for sort of like a Strat 2- or 4- position type sound) and a combination of the outer coils (the two coils being further apart - hopefully capturing something akin to the sound of a Telecaster in mid-position). Can this be done? Thanks again for your great videos!
Is the guitar with the Hensons naturally brighter? Seems off for his neck Voice 1 to be relatively brighter since its described at "thick and smooth" and has sounded darker, warmer, more wooly in other demos. I'm trying to calibrate what I'm hearing here because the Henson bridge has caught my attention as a potentially more preferable alternative to the set of Classics I have but have been going back and forth on actually installing.
I have a 2-humbucker 3-way setup, and am wondering what can be gained from converting my guitar to the push/pull with a 5-way. I'm not clear on the Fishman wiring diagrams and offerings and perhaps you can offer some guidance. AFAIK you've got a 5-way super switch - BUT if you were using a 3-way there would be 3 voices, available in each pickup = 9 total. I think you said with that 5 way and the push/pull you're getting all the voices except one . Given that you've got that 5-way switch and apparently a push pull (sorry, being redundant) you should be getting at least 9 + the 2 splits (whatever combinations they are???) so 11 options total. Since beginning to research the Fishman Fluence pickups I started hearing about "super 5 way" switches - I think Tosin's preferred wiring for his Fishman Fluence uses one - and I'm very unclear how this differs from a 3-way setup (or even if I could choose to do it either way). AFAIK "splits" in 2-pickup guitars are not like in a traditional strat - where 5-way are literally the pairs of middle and neck or middle and bridge. But we're also not talking about ALL the options possible from a super 5-way installed on a passive pickup 2-humbucker guitar, - you tube has a video on this - In that case I believe you can wire it for 10 possible combinations - meaning you can for instance make possible a combo such as outputting only the outer magnets of one of the humbuckers, combined with one of the other humbuckers - weird stuff but possibly useful.
@@McRocklin Cool! Thanks for replying. (Your writing is very good by the way - I could have you write for a theme park ride in the future perhaps. )I can talk to my tech about maybe installing it that way. The other thing is that in your set I was told (by someone at Fishman) that I can add another setting, using what is currently a coil split toggle, in order to toggle in both the single coils to cancel the hum. Do you find there's more hum in the single coils or do the Fishmans sound quieter than traditional single coils? (Fishman say their Koch set is a bit different and those single coils may be quieter, but they gave me the impression there would be hum otherwise (exception being sets that combine the single coils, like Townshend and Abasi).
Is that from all one plug-in ? If you get your plug-in you get all those tones…wow… usually the other companies make you pay for addling tone packs all the time but you give us everything all at once…you must be mad or just love us…I like the Tim Henson pickups better but at the pinnacle from what I’ve heard are your signature pickups… yours, have the Tim, Scott and Abbasi all in one pickup… you’re always one step ahead of the game in everything aren’t you
So I’m newer to guitar, I’ve had this Jackson js22 sitting in the corner for awhile and I finally started getting back into it. Do you guys think it’d be worth putting those pick ups in it? (Being they’re worth more than the guitar?) 😂
Probably not just yet, prove you can dedicate sone time to practicing first. And then maybe later on get some. Grab yourself a free trial of School Of McRock though :)
@@McRocklin Yeah man i'm kinda torn. I have a pre order for it coming in June. I like the TOD10's look and inlays better. In your opinion, are Scott's pickups that much better that would warrant a switch, even though i prefer the TOD10's design? Appreciate the expert opinion :)
Annoyingly I prefer the sound of the Henson but really want the gold hardware from the others because they'll look perfect on my guitar. And of course I can't have both... FML.
@@McRocklin yes, no doubt, it's very cool. But of course the risk then comes of overuse and it becoming annoying and derivative. But if you don't someone else probably will so might as well! 👍
Simple facts... PolyChrome DSP will make any set of pickups sound the absolute best they can be 😋👌🏼Great demo and playing as always chief!! 🎸🔥
all the pickups sound great, but it really doesn’t matter what you use sometimes you always wind up sounding like yourself whether you’re a rockstar like Mcrocklin, or a bedroom warrior like myself
Mcrocklin is a professional bedroom warrior
Love the Polychrome DSP and combined with the Scott LePage pickups it sounds amazing. Plus the phenomenal guitar skills of Thomas McRockling gives a truly winning combination!
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Playing a guitar with Fishman Fluence feels like using cheat codes lol. Incredible harmonics and clarity yet all the dynamics and feel of passive pickups...
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@@McRocklin Question. I am a smooth brain who still doesnt understand how you switch voicings. Is it from the push pull knob. I plan on building a jazzmaster with a volume, tone knob, and 5 way switch.
Would i be switching voicings through the tone knob that pushes and pulls? Thank u
Thought I was going crazy at 1st with the guitar changing colors.
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Pickups, what pickups? I'm here for the great tones and great playing!
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Wonderful to see your original Kiesels in action again!
They both have a real top end overtone and very cool splits of course
Thanks for the comparison video. Both sound great. Though I am partial to purple I think that Scott’s would be the ones I would get for a new custom project I have in mind for a Fender strat.
Lovely!
Look at you! Changing colors with the five way/split changes. That was coo!
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This guy rips so hard ☠️
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I think Tim's setup has more of an aggressive tone on the bridge. The top end on both of his are a little too bright for my taste.
Now Scott's set seems to be a bit on the warmer side and more balanced to my ear. I dig that set more.
Awesome review and killer tones & killer licks! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks mate!
FYI Tim's neck is noticeably warmer and darker, which appears to have been the intention
4:51 Jesus Christ you were RIPPING THROUGH THAT
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There is so much out there available to find and make "your sound". Between the pick-ups and tones, I'd start with the most cost effective approach and get the PolyChromeDSP and see what my guitar/pick-ups bring to the table. Great review and as always, great playing.🤘
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Mmm I love hearing pickups through a ton of fx and eq.
There’s no additional eq, and these are my normal tones that I use, most viewers will hear the difference between my regular pickups and these.
Also, those lights are intense in there - nice edit where you change presets and the guitar color changes!
Best review ever. You just show how it was made to sound like. Awesome playing.
Scott’s pickup suits your style so well!
Plz keep that and made us some masterpieces!
It's because they are pretty much exactly the same as his signature set...
Crispier than the walkers factory! ❤
Rofl
Love that you told us which preset you were using at the time, I just bought your dsp because of it
Thank you, enjoy!!
They sound great!
Dude you are awsome
Hey, thanks man 👋🏻
The color changes let me think I'm high. Then I remember I am high and blown away by this detail. Haha. Thanks for the serpedipity.
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2:07 wow that switch can change the guitar finish where can i buy those ?
The magic switch ;)
Thanks for the demos.
Was gonna get Tim's; but tbh I like the sound of Scott's more.
Saved me a bunch with the vid
There are some frequencies from Tim's that just don't sit right with me.
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What stands are those? fit for Strandberg?
Should do, they’re by Hercules
I'm here to love pump.... By the way, great title for a song.
Scotts are smooth and clear, Tims a bit nasally and abrasive. Guess it depends how you dial em in! No one better to put them through their paces, thanks McRocklin you damn ripper!!
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you can make any pickup sound good ha-ha Can you do a video showing how you switch sounds on your plug-in with your foot pedal how do you do that??? thanks
Will do mate!
Honestly Scotts pickups sound "more like Polyphia" than Tims to me.
And they happened to be open core pickups which have been available for years
Wtf does the guitar change color or is that the light 2:12?
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The only difference I can tell from one pickup set to another is the color ;p. Maybe I am tone deaf, hell idk. PS - What preset is that slicer effect at 5:58?
Hehe. That’s probably my autopan effect.
I thought Tim's were unique signatures while Scott's were labeled "custom" meaning Tim's are new and unique while Scott's are something already existing but with the white color and gold poles? I could be completely wrong though. Both sound incredible
Scott’s are just open core classics with gold pole pieces aka fluence classics with the open humbucker look . These pickups are basically nothing new other than the color
@@jayz6008 they are slightly modded for a bit more grit according to fishman but probably bs
@@thesadsamuraii7519 where did they mention they have more grit ? The official sight literally says they’re open core pickups with a different aesthetic
@@jayz6008 the vid where they explained the process which is why i assume its bs
@@thesadsamuraii7519 I haven’t read or seen anywhere where they say the pickups were modified , maybe you misheard or misread . Everywhere I’ve seen they say the pickups are just open core pickups .
Thomas would sound great playing a broomstick through a pignose amp. Tone is in the fingers first, then you can start looking at the toys.
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Im a shredded. I dont want the bluesy brake up I want liquid tone. This was the demo that sold them for me.
So glad I found McRocklins channel what a great player and cool guy. I'm about to pick either the Tim Henson pickups or the Abasi's or even the Fluence Open Core's what would you guys get for clean tone superiority? I'm leaning towards the Open Cores but I'm not vastly experienced. Currently have a rg421ex-blk Ibanez with stock quantum pickups.
Thanks! Imo, you can’t go wrong with the classics, but you could also check out my set which are based upon the clsssics, with some tweaks for a hyper clean tone.
Those pickups sound amazing
3:25
Sounds great!
Scott's set seems to be a more natural fit for you. A *very* good fit in fact.
What are the main differences between your custom set and Scott's?
Mine have a more hyper hifi split
@@McRocklin When you say "split" - you are referring to "Voice 3" (the single coil voice) of the pickups , right?
I listened to your demo of your own set and I liked the sound *a lot.* Especially the single-coil type sounds.
However, I have some questions specifically about the singlecoil/split options that still remain unclear to me. (I've checked the Fishman website but to no avail...)
*My question:* Is there any way to connect a switch to change between the inner and outer coil when selecting the single coil voicing? This would be especially useful when combining the two pickups in singlecoil-mode. I would like to be able to switch between a combination of the inner coils (the two coils being closer to each other, for sort of like a Strat 2- or 4- position type sound) and a combination of the outer coils (the two coils being further apart - hopefully capturing something akin to the sound of a Telecaster in mid-position).
Can this be done?
Thanks again for your great videos!
Got distracted by your great playing! Forgot which pickups were which. Lol 😂
Haha cheers!
Is the guitar with the Hensons naturally brighter? Seems off for his neck Voice 1 to be relatively brighter since its described at "thick and smooth" and has sounded darker, warmer, more wooly in other demos. I'm trying to calibrate what I'm hearing here because the Henson bridge has caught my attention as a potentially more preferable alternative to the set of Classics I have but have been going back and forth on actually installing.
Both guitars should be pretty much the same. The Henson’s are just a little brighter, especially the neck.
id prefer the scott pickups
How did you wire the SLP pickups to the 5-way switch? Same as your sig set?
Yeah I believe so (my tech wired them up)
I have a 2-humbucker 3-way setup, and am wondering what can be gained from converting my guitar to the push/pull with a 5-way. I'm not clear on the Fishman wiring diagrams and offerings and perhaps you can offer some guidance. AFAIK you've got a 5-way super switch - BUT if you were using a 3-way there would be 3 voices, available in each pickup = 9 total. I think you said with that 5 way and the push/pull you're getting all the voices except one . Given that you've got that 5-way switch and apparently a push pull (sorry, being redundant) you should be getting at least 9 + the 2 splits (whatever combinations they are???) so 11 options total. Since beginning to research the Fishman Fluence pickups I started hearing about "super 5 way" switches - I think Tosin's preferred wiring for his Fishman Fluence uses one - and I'm very unclear how this differs from a 3-way setup (or even if I could choose to do it either way). AFAIK "splits" in 2-pickup guitars are not like in a traditional strat - where 5-way are literally the pairs of middle and neck or middle and bridge. But we're also not talking about ALL the options possible from a super 5-way installed on a passive pickup 2-humbucker guitar, - you tube has a video on this - In that case I believe you can wire it for 10 possible combinations - meaning you can for instance make possible a combo such as outputting only the outer magnets of one of the humbuckers, combined with one of the other humbuckers - weird stuff but possibly useful.
For me a five way switch is much quicker to access the other tones VS a three-way plus a push/pull.
@@McRocklin Cool! Thanks for replying. (Your writing is very good by the way - I could have you write for a theme park ride in the future perhaps. )I can talk to my tech about maybe installing it that way. The other thing is that in your set I was told (by someone at Fishman) that I can add another setting, using what is currently a coil split toggle, in order to toggle in both the single coils to cancel the hum. Do you find there's more hum in the single coils or do the Fishmans sound quieter than traditional single coils? (Fishman say their Koch set is a bit different and those single coils may be quieter, but they gave me the impression there would be hum otherwise (exception being sets that combine the single coils, like Townshend and Abasi).
Is that from all one plug-in ? If you get your plug-in you get all those tones…wow… usually the other companies make you pay for addling tone packs all the time but you give us everything all at once…you must be mad or just love us…I like the Tim Henson pickups better but at the pinnacle from what I’ve heard are your signature pickups… yours, have the Tim, Scott and Abbasi all in one pickup… you’re always one step ahead of the game in everything aren’t you
amazing clean tones-how many kiesel u have?-i have 3 my roasted all maple neck delos sound the best-luv those jazz chords-luv ca usa
Cheers! Not sure how many exactly but they’re mounting up quickly!
So I’m newer to guitar, I’ve had this Jackson js22 sitting in the corner for awhile and I finally started getting back into it. Do you guys think it’d be worth putting those pick ups in it? (Being they’re worth more than the guitar?) 😂
Probably not just yet, prove you can dedicate sone time to practicing first. And then maybe later on get some. Grab yourself a free trial of School Of McRock though :)
@@McRocklin for sure man thank you!!!
what key is he playing in 8:43 - 10:01 ? 😮💨😲🤔
Saw the polyphia guys live last week and they killed in terms of playing and tone
I pre-ordered the tod10 and after hearing this idk now! I just liked scotts more tbh. is it that much of a difference to switch orders?
They’re both great pickups. Maybe speak to the dealer then you purchased them from :)
@@McRocklin Yeah man i'm kinda torn. I have a pre order for it coming in June. I like the TOD10's look and inlays better. In your opinion, are Scott's pickups that much better that would warrant a switch, even though i prefer the TOD10's design? Appreciate the expert opinion :)
Stick with em, you’ll not be disappointed mate. I really like them. Almost as much as my own set ;)
@@McRocklin Bet I’ll stick with it! Keep up the great vids too bro
Annoyingly I prefer the sound of the Henson but really want the gold hardware from the others because they'll look perfect on my guitar. And of course I can't have both... FML.
Hehe that’s usually how it goes
WTF is that harmonic stuttery effect at the 6:00 mark?
A glitch effect that I made in Ableton, do you think I should make a guitar effect from it?
@@McRocklin yes, no doubt, it's very cool. But of course the risk then comes of overuse and it becoming annoying and derivative. But if you don't someone else probably will so might as well! 👍
Totally
@@McRocklin BIG YES Thomas
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Huh? Arent the white ones from tim henson?😅
These are SLP in white 👍🏻
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anyone else notice the weird color changes?
SOOOOOO Rad!!!
Slight quiver in my haunches.