Are Fishman Fluence Moderns All Hype?
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I think the other positive of Fishmans typically not mentioned in reviews is the very low noise floor. They work so clean in high gain applications.
So do a lot of inexpensive ones.
To be expected out of actives
I've recorded 3 releases with these pickups. All the DI's were reamped. There's NO noise.
This is one of the best Fishman Modern demos I've seen. Really like how you're not chuggaluggin the entire time.
@@scottbrower9052 well, just chugging or pretty much chugging most of the time is lame yes
@@scottbrower9052 kind of true but not
Agreed.
Most of the others are a high gain fest of djent and metal, I like that too but I need to know how the pickup handles the stuff I play more often.
Sounds like it does.
seriously. all i've seen is djent heads showing how sterile and souless these pickups can be. Good to see someone showing actual tones.
Chugchugchugchugchugchugchug
I was always a passive guy, always stayed away from active pickups, until I bought my latest guitar, a 7 string Ibanez RGD Multi Scale guitar with Fishmans, and I absolutely fell in love with the sound, it's my main guitar, and I love it.
Dude, saame!!!
Its amazing
Must be the 71 ALMS-BAM Axion Label right? Ehheh I set a target on it, for my next rifle.
Same here… I’ve always hated actives until I tried Fishmans
Holy smokes, his playing has improved a lot in the last couple of years!
Lol. Not really.
Gregor Samsa oh shut up u
fuckin loser hahaha
dont notice improvement he was great to begin with imo he still great
@@Jay-rd6fe great? I think has made huge strides in his playing
If possible (and not too much trouble), coil-splitting demonstrations would also be incredibly appreciated. You're setting up one hell of an archive for pickup tones, and coil-splitting is fairly important to many of us.
That said, regardless of if you decide to or not, thanks a ton for these videos.
The versatility of these fishman moderns are really unmatched. The ability to switch between passive and active voices is just amazing. For a guitar that is to be used for just about every genre out there, I really can't think of any better. That said, if I want to play metal and only metal, I'd still go for the classic EMG 81/85 (or 60 neck) just because there's just something about that distinct 'chunk' from the 81 that is just so unique to that pickup that I really love especially for death metal.
The 81/85 has pedigree
How do you rate 81/85 cleans over gibson standard 490s?
@@kremepye3613 That's highly dependent on the other equipment in your signal chain and the style you play. Then again, you don't really get an 81/85 set to play clean, right?
@@kremepye3613 plastic sterile compressed clean.. in some context can be used..but for most common styles is the worst pickup i ever tried...and i tried for +5 years.
The answer is yes. The Seymour Duncan JB and EMG81TW pick ups kick the fish man in the teeth.
I love the Modern Set. It’s the sound I’ve always heard in my head- and NO noise.
Great video, Phil! Love the series already. I think this video covered the tonal ground that most people would want to hear from an active pickup - dead clean and modern distortion. It did really well with that; nailed the contemporary metal tones. The cleans seemed to have a bit of natural compression, which I found interesting.
Regardless of which pickups you put the Fluence set up against (I'd suggest PAF-style), please play them through a Plexi-style amp or pedal! It would be really interesting to hear how it'd handle that - would it still sound scooped, or would you be able to get some classic bite out of it?
Also really hyped to see some TV Jones pickups in the future!
This is an amazing start to what I am sure will be an fun and educational series. Thanks Phil.
LOVE IT! Bring more! Thanks Phil!
Ur playing get better and better everytime i watch your new video 🤩🤩🤩 good job bro! Thank you for ur videos man, very helpful!
Please do the cool split. Part of the draw to Fishman for me is the amount of sounds you can get from one set of pickups, and the coil split option adds another layer to their potential for me
The with distortion you can barely tell the difference between single and humbuckers.
Its amazing!!
Great job Phillip ! I just got a set of the Moderns yesterday and for now only want to use the ceramic bridge pickup in one of my single hum guitars..your video here really displays how good these sound,and going to have my guitar ready tomorrow morning..Thanks for a great video demo here.
I've been playing 51 years. I've always been more of a passive fan. I got a ESP M1007 7 string with Fishmans a few months back. I love them!
In the last 6 months I bought a Schecter SLS Elite and a sparkly red Stephen Carpenter signature SC 608B (8-string). Both came with Fishman Fluence. The former the modern Humbucker set and the latter with the Stephen Carpenter signature set. These pick-ups are far better than any of the passive pick-ups on the other guitars I have or have played. The cleans are so crystal the the heavies so defined. I could never turn back.
That is a beautiful guitar! Have really enjoyed the show. Thank You for all the hard work you put into your content.
Awesome video!!! I hear a lot of talk about the Fishman pickups but very little demonstration about the range of sound, you did that admirably. Nice post
Hi phil! What's funny is that i have a guitar equipped with those and had absolutely no idea that they were splittable until i heard you talk about it! A video demonstrating the tones and the soldering would be greatly appreciated, thank you and as always very good video
i see no one has replied so I'll give it a shot..... you probably need a 5 way switch if you dont have one to split coils with or a couple mini toggles .... a quick google search on wiring should help you out with that .. just make sure you get the right pick up configuration you are currently using when you do the search and be sure it match's for im guessing you are using active's so be sure the schematic is for active's . or passive whatever you are using.
Great pickups and a great video. phillip you are the greatest.
I'm so stoked for these pickup videos! Also, I'm having a custom guitar made and opted for fishman fluence pickups. I'd love to hear the coil split sounds as well because of course you have to Know your Gear! Keep up the great work Phil!
thanks for the review, i love the sounds.
I love this kind of video, thak you Phil!
Thank you, I learned quite a lot!
A shootout between these, the classic EMG combo (81/85), a set of Dimarzio ToneZone/PAF and Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz or 59 would be a good comparison. IMO.
I’d like to see it all of you can. Great video as always. I’ve always stayed away from active pickups but these sound great.
Love to see a shootout between these and some PRS SE 85/15S pickups.
Phil this is going to be a GREAT series.
Nice review. I don't play heavy guitar, so I appreciate that Phil didn't assume I wanted to hear how heavy these pickups get.
You should do a frequency response curve for all these pickup tests. Testing 100+ pickups, as you announced, having EQ curve to compare them all would be great.
Love this concept for pickup reviews
Philip if you get the time, I would really love for you to demo the coil split on these. There's no demos I can find that show the coil split on the moderns well, and that's what I was most looking forward to about these reviews from you. Great work all the same tho!
They don't coil split, they just have two different tones.
@@MrScrofulous Fishman Fluence Modern humbuckers are generally installed with 2 different voicings, and a hi frequency tilt option, both of which are controlled via push pull pots included in the box. Following the manual, and with a little bit more soldering, they are also able to be coil split, replacing the hi frequency tilt push pull.
They really do emulate a single coil sound better than a traditionally tapped humbucker. I have a set of the Devin Townsend Fluence pickups, and the choice of active or passive voiced humbuckers with the same choice for a single coil sound.... fantastic.
@@rasputinsbeard3899 awesome! How do you feel about the Devin Townsend set? I'm a fan of his music, but I can't find many good demos of his set (his demo has soooo much delay and reverb haha)
@@JayJayden45 I know, right? I watched his demonstration, and he ran it through his complete setup. Sounded great, but no actual indication of the dry sound. As well as the plug for the output for the pickup, there are another two points that can be switched to ground. One will switch the voicing to a single coil sound emulation, and the other will cut back the power of the pre-amp to give you a more passive sound. This basically gives you four sounds for each pickup; humbucker active, humbucker passive, single-coil active, and single-coil passive. The sound quality from these pickups is soooooo very nice and crisp. I can't recommend them enough. You'd best be decent with a soldering iron though, because if you use all of the options, there are a lot of little wires in a very tiny space. Also, the kit comes with all of the electronics you need, including two push/pull volume pots.
great review bud.
great video, good job. got me interested in those pickups
Love how Phil does a Trogley style riff at the end...
Thank you Phil. I really like how you play the same riff multiple times going back and forth between settings. That helps me be able to hone in on the sound differences much better than just one or two go rounds.
I just got a Ibanez with fishman moderns and I absolutely love them. My favorite pickups. Sound like a jb/distortion mix in the bridge to me. Idk. 1 thing I noticed that I wasnt expecting is their so damn quiet. I turned my noise gate down by 40%. Sustain is killer and still get really heavy sound. I don't really like active pickups and have changed them all out in guitars I've gotten for passive but these definitely do not sound active. I was overly surprised.
Enjoyed the video very much. The audio quality was good and the presentation was much more polished.
Although I had heard 'of' these pickups I had yet to actually hear them. They sounded very good to me. I am surprised. In terms of a shootout it might be cool to hear them compared to a comparable pair of pickups from Lollar or Bare knuckle. Nice job Phil.
How cool is it that you demoed these new pickups in the swap-out modules for the new guitar!!
I bought the classic humbucker and 2 single coil fishman pickups, cant wait to install them
Phil you're easy to like, my friend. As always, nice demo.
I like the Classics a bit more than the Moderns (I have Classics in a Kiesel Bolt and Moderns in my Osiris). But either way, Fishman has the best and most versatile active pickups I've ever played.
I recently bought no less that three, new-for-2020, ESP electrics. One of those is the new Phoenix in black cherry and it came with the Fishman Fluance Moderns. From that guitar, I have already installed three sets of the same pickups into my other guitars, and will be installing a fourth into my new PRS burl wood top this weekend. They are really something else, and I cannot overstate how much I love them. It is disheartening how they make you view your other guitars' pickups. Just ruins you for everything else, and I suppose that would be the ONLY negative about them. lol.
These imo are the best pickups on the market right now. Very versatile. Love them!
Nice demo Phil. I got interested in these recently, they're in the new top of line Schecter tele, which looks awesome.
I played some that are in the new Jackson ‘s . They rock
One of the things I most appreciate Phil, is how you often test sounds/guitars with 3 different amps, TUBE amps! the amp is an instrument too, tube gain and feel might be emulated, & I’ve never played an emulated tone, I’m not knocking it, but I play at a pretty specific almost stage volume, and it’s the harmonic overtones I’m looking for, if I played clean…. a sansamp. or the jazz chorus amp, or even a Polytone is fine, but that’s not my wheelhouse, nor are gain pedals, smashing the 1st tube gain stage with hot pickups & or a boost is what I like.
The best way to hear those overtones is to smash a power chord like you do. Fluence may not have wire, but that wonderful meaty Kerrang sound of a big chord says those PU’s are the future, me? I’ll stick with passive, SD’s into an MB, Amp….I’ve got enough 2 pickups guitars, and I’m done with all the guitar upgrades, or purchases I’m likely to do, but it’s amazing to see all the incredible products nowadays and you are detailed, consistent and specific about what you do and how you do it. I always know what I’m gonna get 🙂. Rock on Phil😃
I haven't tried these, but I'm a HUGE fan of actives. No noise and, like you mentioned, no issues with long cable runs or multiple pedals. My Strat, LP and a Carvin Bass all have actives. I won't use anything else.
It would be awesome if you could compare the Fluence Open Core Classic's with the Moderns, or even some of artist models. The classic's have 3 voices and one is a single coil voice. There isn't too many videos that I have found that really compare the different Fluence models. I got a set of the Keith Merrow Fluence pickups in my Schector Keith Merrow MKIII Artist guitar and they sound incredible. Every voicing and pickup selection has the magic. They are so good it makes me want to put Fluence pickups in my other guitars. I am really curious about the new Javier Reyes Fluence pickup set too.
awesome, Phil!
They're the best pickups I've ever played! They make everything sound good!!
Are they the ones that come in the new charvel guitars?
Really kool to hear the clean tone for once
I do like the fishmans but I'm curious if you have tried the kiesel polarity active pickups? They have an active and passive mode that can be switched via volume knob or a switch under the back plate. I've heard great things about them and Andy James actually left EMG for them last year.
My favorite active pickups are emg 60 and 81. The 60 sounds super sweet in the neck and 81 is pure balls. I run them on 18 volts
Yep massive improvement. Well done dude
i never thought they were hype at all. i'd get a set but i'm already pretty happy with the pups in my guitar as it is. maybe if i ever get another one.
Compare the 81 and 85 EMGs I know you have set. lol
I had 81 and 85s in my prs torero and put these in so I could have more tones to play with, the 81/85 are really for just metal. The neck sounds crisper and more full with the fishman and less muddier then the emgs
I have a les Paul with fishman modern pickups and I have a dean Razorback with EMG 81 85 set. I like the fishman modern pickups a lot more. EMG pickups sound the same and sooo many people use them, I have been trying to look for my own tone.
@@87BruceH there‘s a good reason for it. They wouldn‘t be that widely used in the metal world if they weren’t top notch.
EMG 81/89r all the way!
I was just thinking about this earlier, good timing!
My headless Kiesel 7 string has fishmans moderns. Amazing, massive guitar with a huge range. I still think the amp has the most to do with it.
Great first video in the series.
Took awhile to get adjusted to the bright punchy sound of Fishman's.
After tweaking my rig to accommodate I realized Fishman's are like hot rodded Wolfgang's with a built-in high-quality noise gate.
I was interested in these fishman pickups so I was glad to see your review. Nice demo Phil with tasty licks and clean chordal playing that really showed what these pups can do. I would like to see you compare them with the PRS 594 McCarty 58/15 LTs 2020 or 2019 earlier and/or perhaps even the new S2 model. I was thinking the S2 might be a good candidate for these pups. Thanks
I've got these coming in an Aristides build....excited!
that blue JP on the wall is gorgeous, that colour really does something for me, would love to add one to my rack one day 😌
I still love the EMG bridge / Tele neck combo you stumbled upon when first showing this guitar, and think you should compare all pickup combinations against this.
Good video. Informative.
Finally someone addressed, why no one ever uses active pickups with fuzz. By the way I'd love to see these Fluence Modernes, against the EMGs that Hetfield uses (is it 85/61? Cannot remember), and also, against a Seymour Duncan JB&59 set. I choose these sets, as they are the most popular for heavy sounds.
Great review! I appreciate that the demo wasn't with straight metal. I'd be really curious of a shootout between these and the Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz set. Quite different pickups, but would make for an interesting comparison.
Great video sir. Do you think it's a big uogradefrom EMG 80-61? I have an Ltd ec1000 and Ive been looking this pickups as a possibility on the future
Thanks!
Yes, we need to hear the split coil sounds please.
Yes😭
Blackouts and the sentient and nazghul or black winter set from Seymour Duncan vs emg 81/85 vs fluence
Nazguls are probably one of the best pickup's I've personally heard.
I'm DEFINITELY interested in hearing some coil-split sounds! Great upload! Thanks! Later...
holy wow these are amazing with some drive! I know what I'm saving for
Huge difference between the bridges on the fuzz that really caught me off guard
I really enjoy the coil split option on my PRS custom 24 se with SD 59 and Pearly Gates
I'm looking forward to the fishman fluence open core pickups in the charvel so cal style 2. They look really versatile and well built.
I'd like to hear how both pickups sound together. Those seem to be the sweeter sounds on a two humbucker pickup guitar.
Would love to see them in a shootout with Blackouts. Yeah might as well coil split them since they can do it. Thanks!
I need to still try Fishman Fluence pickups. Of all the active pickups I have used I always enjoyed EMG 85s. I am curious how they compare.
Fishman Fluence is my favorite pickup especially the Abasi set
Id like to see these against all the mainstay actives (emg 81, 85, and 60 as well as the duncan blackouts) i kinda wanna see a showdown between these and an invader tho idk why
I got fishman gristletone pups amazing. I'm actively replacing all my pickups to fishman. They are amazing!!!!
Once I got a pair of these pickups I couldn't switch to anything else. The best part about them is how receptive they are, can't be replicated with traditional pickups imo
I got a set for my old J Strat; it is a beautiful firebreather now. I'm saving for a set of the vintage hums. I am very impressed. Thanks for the vid Phil.
Coil split would be nice.
Would love to see a comparison against SD Black Winter set and EMG's 81-X/85-X
It sounds really good for riffing out some Rock I'd say, as well as lead playing.
Super cool! Voice1/voice2 seems like a useable chorus/verse swtch right on the guitar
Hi Phillip, what would you suggest as the best electric guitar setup for a more acoustic player, looking for a practice guitar -an electric guitar. I might on the way get well into playing electric guitar techniques as well. But, I will be basically playing clean notes and am looking for more acoustic sound - bright, warm, sort of Seagull S6 sound. I've set a budget max at 350 euros, but cheaper the better. I'm happy with used as well. I'm thinking of a Squier classic vibe 70s telecaster, schecter omen-6, Yamaha etc. I also have the idea to buy a cheap used yamaha pacifica model and then upgrade it with fishman power birdge and pick ups? I'm keen on playability with nice low action and the sound. What do you think would be the best way to go? May be you have better ideas/guitars which would fit this? Thanks in advance.
They sound great! 😀
Phil , did u put these in 1 of ur guitars ? Love the channel !
....THANKS, PHIL! THOSE PICKUPS SOUND AWESOMER!!! WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO GET GREAT "SINGLE-COIL" TONE SOUND, WITHOUT THE DREADED "60-CCYCLE HUM"???!!!....
Hey Phillip, please also demo the coil split sounds
Appreciate the video. I'm looking at the LTDs that come with these, and had not heard of Fishmans before... Not a fan of "digital (modeling)" sounds, but these sound pretty good!
The Mission Engineering VM-Pro has a setting specifically for fuzz pedals that is supposed to make it appear like an un-buffered guitar signal. I've never used one so I can't say how well it works but it might be an option to consider.
So I got a question are you. I own a Dean V that I’m putting these in it has 2 volumes and 1 tone. Would I be able to do the 2 volumes (one bridge and one neck) and keep the push pull pot on the tone knob’s position?
I have an LTD MH-1000 and with my heavily saturated tone the voice 2 is my desired setting, strange but I just go with it. Just like the Pearly gates PU I have in another ltd 1000, sounds great, Just the 2 knobs and only one push pull on there...assuming thats fine.
Had a Satchel Charvel those pick ups actually contribuited to me returning the guitar.
That being said i'm not a fan of active pick ups but the best I have found are the EMG bonebreakers a lot warmer.
Hey, Phil. I've been looking forward to your pickup demos but you went from clean straight to high gain metal stuff. Most of us probably live somewhere in between those sounds.
Good review. Definitely check them out against some passives. 57's , PAFs , Lollars, Bare Knuckles etc. I wanna hear which ones I like better. Don't care of they're active or passive. Definitely gotta demo the split coils too. :) thx
Wow, those sound beautiful.