Thanks, Andy, for this comprehensive video on the background crap. I know You addressed this before, but doing it all in one video and then do a full edit, makes you understand why the pvswap is so important. Looking forward to the next one. Happy Christmas!
A gret video Andy on how Lightroom really should be set up and as you yourself say hardly any other Lightroom videos that I've seen ever address this problem that also effects Camera Raw.
Thanks Andy. I always use the PV Swap but with Adobe Neutral rather than Adobe Standard. This seems to make the starting place even flatter. I think this is what you suggested previously. Any particular reason for the change or am I mistaken? Cheers and Merry Xmas.
Hi, with some sensors, such as the Z9, Camera Neutral makes some drastic saturation changes. If you opt for Camera Flat, it removes more contrast, but tends to leave the darker shadows where they are - in other words, it's not quite 'global'. Neutral and Flat are Adobe interpretations of the OEM picture control settings, and they exist as .dcp profiles of a sub folder inside Camera Raw. As I've shown in many RT and ART videos, these .dcp profiles work well in those FOSS apps. But in Lr/ACR, lately, their deployment can yield unexpected results very different from what they yield in ART/RT. Lightroom/ACR interpretation has changed a bit for certain sensors - I don't know why! But the Adobe Standard profile selection happens automatically when you do a process version swap, and it gives good global consistency across all camera sensors. So make an Adobe Standard PVS, then make another switched to Camera Neutral, and a third with Camera Flat. Set Lightroom default to the Adobe Standard variant, than you have the other two to change to if you like them better. In short, as of this date, this variant works consistently on all cameras, but Neutral and Flat are more sensor-specific and don't always yield the same level of consistency. Cheers, and have a Good One!
Thanks, Andy, for this comprehensive video on the background crap.
I know You addressed this before, but doing it all in one video and then do a full edit, makes you understand why the pvswap is so important. Looking forward to the next one.
Happy Christmas!
A gret video Andy on how Lightroom really should be set up and as you yourself say hardly any other Lightroom videos that I've seen ever address this problem that also effects Camera Raw.
Great video as always Andy. Happy Christmas 🎄😊
Thanks, you too!
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Thanks Andy. I always use the PV Swap but with Adobe Neutral rather than Adobe Standard. This seems to make the starting place even flatter. I think this is what you suggested previously. Any particular reason for the change or am I mistaken? Cheers and Merry Xmas.
Hi, with some sensors, such as the Z9, Camera Neutral makes some drastic saturation changes. If you opt for Camera Flat, it removes more contrast, but tends to leave the darker shadows where they are - in other words, it's not quite 'global'.
Neutral and Flat are Adobe interpretations of the OEM picture control settings, and they exist as .dcp profiles of a sub folder inside Camera Raw.
As I've shown in many RT and ART videos, these .dcp profiles work well in those FOSS apps. But in Lr/ACR, lately, their deployment can yield unexpected results very different from what they yield in ART/RT.
Lightroom/ACR interpretation has changed a bit for certain sensors - I don't know why!
But the Adobe Standard profile selection happens automatically when you do a process version swap, and it gives good global consistency across all camera sensors.
So make an Adobe Standard PVS, then make another switched to Camera Neutral, and a third with Camera Flat. Set Lightroom default to the Adobe Standard variant, than you have the other two to change to if you like them better.
In short, as of this date, this variant works consistently on all cameras, but Neutral and Flat are more sensor-specific and don't always yield the same level of consistency.
Cheers, and have a Good One!
@@AndyAstbury For the Canon R5 both neutral and standard work well. But as you infer it is a bit of a dark art and a bit image dependent.