How to build long-range (50-90ly) exploration ships in Elite Dangerous
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- This Elite Dangerous tutorial teaches you everything you need to know about on how to build long-range exploration vessel. Which ships are best explorers? Why they are best? Why some are better than others? How do you actually get the jump range up?
Everything is explained on this video.
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70LY Krait Phantom with 3rd grade shield in case of hard landing, all modules are D class except FSD and 6A fuel scoop. 16ton corrosion resistant rack and hangar for single SRV can also serve as a search and rescue or occasional pickup of stuff randomly found during mission. It is able to land almost eveywhere. Also has a single heatsink if needed and will have enough power to use AFMU.
I have been flying my Type-10 Defender as my exploration ship, with a 45ly jump range, for the last four years. I love it for all the optional storage space. I have an Anaconda with a 79ly jump range. But i love my type-10 and It has all hardpoints as well.
I didn't think anyone would use that brick as exploration vessel, it's so slow and bulky :/ 45ly is also very low, you don't need any cargo space. my Annie still has like 192t cargo or was it 312t, forgot now .. but you dont need cargo space when exploring. 16-32t is more than enough just in case you find something interesting, but all the stuff you ever need, can be optained from near bubble.
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Oh i know I don’t have too, but I like it.
If I want I can get my Anaconda to do 337ly jump. I’m not in a hurry
@@NinjaZXRR no you can't, best ship in the game is anaconda and it can do MAYBE 92ly at best if you strip it down and have no boost either.
@@SethiozProject I think he's counting the neutron star boost
@@potteryjoe yea well that's not considered as ship's jump range.
I feel like I would rather take one or 2 AFMU's instead of the cargo racks if it's an exploration ship. Because if something goes wrong and you damage you modules you have at least something to repair them with. I would also put one or two heat sinks on and engineer them with lightweight. Better have them and not need them than need them and not have them.
yeah forgot about the repair module, but I never really need them. heatsinks are also rather useless, i did once try to fly between 2 suns and took some heat damage .. but that was just stoopid thing to do, if you pay attention to what you're doing and don't mess around, you dont need either.
@@SethiozProject I think AFMU has become less important now we always have a DSSA Carrier "nearby" but it sure has helped me 30ly out and missjudging gravity, damaging something I didn't want to be damaged.
@@mavadelo for neutron jumps its essential once your modules get enough damage the will start glitching and not working and shit
@@danielstokker Been playing this year since shortly after initial launch, never did a neutron jump, I feel for an explorer it defeats the purpose of exploring. That is of course how I play, not saying explorers taking the neutron highway are doing it wrong :)
@@mavadelo contradiction there if neutron jumping defeats the need of exploring the why have a long range jump ship
For anyone watching this, wanting to start their early exploring career, the most important thing is to be able to love the ships you're flying.
It's going to be a long while of just you, your ship and SRV. So if you don't like the sound of the engine or the way it handles in supercruise then you're probably going to be finding the self-destruct button after awhile.
Beagle Point is the benchmark of long range exploration, Beagle itself was an Asp Explorer from before engineering was an option, It had a jump range of 34.5LY. Which is to say, don't get too hung up on the difference between 60ly or 70ly ships.
After this video, this man made a hilarious video about how the balkans is all of europe and brussels is the new istanbul.
For players just starting the hauler is gonna be the best option due to cost. Base hauler costs about 50k while DBX base is 500k, and ASP and Krait in the millions. Plus bigger modules will cost much more. A quick road to riches run or bit of Xbio will get them cash for the DBX or ASP though and as always they wanna have enough for a rebuy.
small correction, just pedantics, but the DBX costs over a mil (around 1.1 in a discount system)
Great video! I would be interested in full spec list for the anaconda and phantom, best i managed was 72 and 65ly respectively.
Currently i'm 16jumps away from BP with my Krait, on my 3rd solo exploration expedition
coriolis links are on my Patreon, I usually post my builds for my Patrons way before I make a video on them.
@@SethiozProject thanks anyway.
This ass explorer looks excellent!! I regret overlooking this ship
i love exploring ass
you're wrong Sethioz :D as all terrified taxi-drivers know.
DBX ftw
nope, you're wrong .. DBX is for poor sunday evening button touchers xD check this th-cam.com/video/JOeA7aTiC1s/w-d-xo.html (fuel scooping is pain).
Also reason why Anaconda is the queen, is because weight ratio of small modules, such as SRV hangar. like you saw on video, point defense takes only 0.03ly, but on smaller ships it will drag down the jump range by a lot more.
@@SethiozProject DBX is Tuesday night Chicken Dinner (for lazy occasional button-touchers) and you know it :D
DBX is everything '84 dreamed the Cobra3 would be - with underwhelming scooping, it's true :D
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But I am poor Sethioz, I play when I can with no real strategy or skill :D it's undeniable, the expensive ships are better - I'm scavenging materials for one engineered fsd :D
I like my trusty type6 for hopping around the bubble
type6 ?? .. brah .. that's literally one of the worst ships :/
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i dont do much engineering myself so i havnt gone and optimised stuff for heat efficiency, so with that in mind i dont think enough people know that the dolphin can charge its frame shift drive while at full fuel scoop (which is 5 in comparison to the 4 of diamondback explorer) with its heat below 50%. this makes it an amazing bubble bus with minimal engineering (just an engineered fsd really) and imo its a lovely looking ship with a better cockpit than dbx.
also early in the game you can build a type 6 for cargo and since cargo racks dont add weight, without anymore outfitting you have a pretty good jump ship as well since it has quite an impressive range. 2 for the price of 1
I'm quite sure you're wrong about dolphin, I have it and I don't remember it being heat effecient at all. I plan on making a video on dolphin anyways, so will see about that.
type-6 is an oven tho, I had it at some point and it overheats even when using FSD lol
@@SethiozProject im definitely not wrong about the dolphin as its what i use to get around the bubble. the t6 shouldnt overheat when using the fsd so im not sure what you had on yours, but my point with that was that if you are early game the type 6 can satisfy both your cargo and exploration needs with just 1 ship and no need to reoutfit for the other purpose, not many other ships offer that versatility at the 1 mill price point.
For people who don't have the 6a Pre engineered FSD from the CG you can use the new SCO 6a FSD as it has a higher Optimised mass than the Pre engineered one at 3,224 tonnes over the pre engineer d's 3,182.4 tonnes/
Hello. Please share the coriolis link with this.
Another consideration when starting a new commander is that the DBX is so cheap.
Hauler is cheaper
@@SethiozProject hauler is an egg :)
DBX ftw :P
No AFMS? That's a brave choice for an explorer
Is this odyssey, cus It looks different to my game although I am on Xbox, and I've looked everywhere I can not find an fsd boost module, I can only max my dolphin at about 24ly for taxi missions
you need to unlock it...
Got 74 LY out of an asp explorer 76 LY out of a diamondback and 84 LY out of the conda
congrats! anything above 70 is quite good already, but I still prefer Phantom as my secondary explorer ^^
What are the chances of getting a Coriolis build link?
I love my Anaconda. 63Ly. Not amazing, but decent.
That's super low for Annie, I remember mine before the engineers update was able to do 55ly. You can easily get it to 75ly, just follow what you saw on video :)
I am sorry, Diamondback Explorer ... overheats? I park it in the corona of a star while I FSS and it gets to 65% heat when I am finished with full tank.
What paint job is that on the Anaconda in the beginning?
How do you overheat the DBX? That ship literally has the highest heat capacity in the game! I always use Armored PPs and I can sit on the edge of a star's max scooping zone indefinitely
With the Type 10, you can sit as close to a star as you want without overheating, and the Dolphin lets you charge your next jump while fuel scooping.
@@provaricus627 that depends on your engineering...
I've seen where you can actually give the conda a 300+ly jump range. Don't ask me how, but I would assume it involves guardian modules with engineering.
well you saw wrong then, please stop following some half-brainer youtubers who give false misleading information.
you can literally use coriolis to test with different modules, it includes EVERYTHING that exists in game, 92ly is as far as you can push it, there's no magic to get it beyond that and it will be with smallest possible fuel tank (can only do 1 jump).
just stop talking nonsense.
you probably followed some half brainer who fooled you by charging the FSD from neutron star, but that's not considered as jump range, because all ships can do 300+ by charging from neutron stars.
you can also use FSD boost, but same goes for that ... nobody counts that as jump range, it's 1-time deal.
so stop talking nonsense, more important stop watching whoever you got this false info from.
In fact there's a server side hard limit of 100ly range, so you can't do this even by hacking the game (it's been tried, including by me). game will just crash if you try to jump more than 100ly (unless you used FSD boost or neutron star boost, which only works for 1 jump on ANY ship)
I managed to get around a 200+LY jump range using guardian FSD boosters and the doubled engineered FSD.
@@shrambooni3295 I managed to get a ~150LY conda with some upgrades from Colonia lmao, shits awesome to use
Asp Explorer....best ship for me
I just went to I Sola Prospect and bought every ship to strip them to bare bones and see what range I could squeeze out of them with no engineering. The best one is the Diamondback Explorer at 38 ly and it's cheap and doesn't need large landing pads, nothing else comes close without engineering. Krait Phantom was 34, but those lights on the windshield pointed right at your face, what's up with that? And the blind spots on either side. Whoever designed that thing needs to be kicked in the shin a couple times.
That's wrong, I had 50ly Anaconda before the engineers. .. or hmm, not sure anymoer how I got it, I did a quick check on ship builder and got 41ly out of unmodded Anaconda, but I swear mine was 50+. You can check back on my older ED videos and see what I had.
Why do you need long jump range to explore when systems are just a few LY's apart? Is it to get outside of the explored areas faster?
Would you like to suffer 300 loading screens, or just 30? :|
Hey for the sake of other players, its helpful if there's a coriolis link. Just saying
why should i care? nobody cares what i want or need
Krait phantom for exploration can be made in such a way that it will jump over 70LY close to 75LY. ~70LY can also be achieved with shield, 16T cargo and heatsink launcher but it will still need D rated components and lots of stripped down experimentals and some under powering. With A engines and average power plant 68LY should be possible and you can land on high G planets. As for a forst exploration ship, diamondback scout is fairly good to get a first bilion of exploration data.
you can land on high G planets with any ship, this is kind of bad design if you ask me ... I think thrusters should be more realistic and based on gravity. For example if you put minimum possible thrusters that can barely lift the ship, then how is it possible that they are still able to lift the ship even on 30g planet? I think thrusters should have stat that would show the kind of gravity they're capable of handling, if you go into too high G planet with bad thrusters, it should result you getting stuck. for that scene, there should be some system that lets you turn your nose upwards and use full thrust of rear thrusters to get away.
Funny an annaconda can outjump a dbx. How to farm those datamined wake things anyway?
Yeah we need a proper exploration ship! For example Vulture is a small ship with 2x large hardpoints and FDL has 1x huge, why not have small ship with class 6 FSD, medium ship with class 7 and large ship with class 8 FSD! Also a simple search on my channel would bring you to this video - th-cam.com/video/afhQ4Qkpgck/w-d-xo.html
The Anaconda is pretty much the trademark ship for Elite, the reason you see it on all the promotion material. As a result, it is over-designed to be an all-around good ship.
The Anaconda is also the only ship designed to have proper armour damage visuals.
why you need cargo rack?
Options are nice.
How did you get so much money sir?
that's not a lot at all buddy, you can easily spend 600 mil on a single ship, probably even more and carrier core cost is 5 bil.
@@SethiozProject my max spending on a ship is 100M and that's already pretty much for me. Can yu do a tutorial on how to make so much money? Would love to have a carrier one day (at the pace I'm getting money in game, it would take a life time)
L'anaconda peut dépasser les 91AL
Mine is 91.07 LY :D
@@jamesbigglesworth4677 le mien va a 91.23 AL
@@77pigme77 Wow, I would love to see that build!
DBX is the best exploration ship in the game. One of the highest jump ranges, small profile for easy landings, beautiful supercruise handling, very thermal efficient so you can hover above the star while you scan.
It does everything better.
.. says a person who didn't watch the video I referred to on this video. Just because you're on denial and delusional, doesn't change the reality. DBX is one of the WORST, only thing I agree is "easy landing", rest is complete opposite. It's thermally extremely in-effective, it overheats SUPER EASY, fuel scoop is too small and takes WAY too long to refuel and supercruise handling is about same as Phantom. This is what happens if you roll your eyes and IGNORE facts that are shown to you. You can clearly see on my linked video that DBX is worse of the 3 by far.
@@SethiozProject Lol, why are you getting so mad about it? Pathetic, kid.
DBX by the numbers has THE best thermal capacity of any ship in the game. The heat cap for DBX is 351. The Conda has 334, Phantom 300, and ASPX is 272. The max cooling rate is high too. You're likely making the mistake of D-rating the PP for optimizing lower mass which also effectively doubles the thermal load. You want to A-rate the PP.
Fuel scoop isn't a problem for an exploration ship. It's faster if you want to get from A to B quickly with no stops, but if you're exploring, you're also going to be scanning frequently. You don't need a large scoop if you're a good pilot. You can scoop while you're scanning the system to save time. My tank is always full before I ever finish scanning a system.
And the small landing profile is a big deal for exploration. You're never going to land an Anaconda in the mountains when collecting Fungoida samples, you will always have to land outside the mountain biome which could be KMs away. Collecting genetic samples goes MUCH faster when your ship is easier to land. You can simply fly to each cluster of plants and land virtually anywhere nearby.
And the supercruise speed of the DBX is IS better. It's a small ship with one class higher maneuverability than the Phantom :)
I can tell you're new to the game and the community. The DBX is a great exploration ship. You should search Coriolis ship builder. It's a useful 3rd party tool to min/max your ship builds.
DBX has the second-best jump range, is incredibly easy to land almost anywhere on a planet, and from my experience has been second best for thermal management.
I love the fact with the DBX you don't have to compromise on anything, you can throw A-rated parts on there and barely lose any range.
@@mertar3608 Agreed. The only ship that has a higher jump range is the Anaconda, and that's not fun to fly in supercruise and is nigh impossible to land. DBX gets too much of a bad rep for the smaller fuel scoop, but I never had any issues with fuel in all my thousands of hours exploring.
@@PowerofRock24 From all my time exploring, the only ship that has served me better than the DBX is the Dolphin, Which is a funner, faster luxury DBX at the cost of jump range.
Your Dolphin has Mass Manger, when Deep Charge would be better, just saying!
your ears can't hear what I'm saying. just saying! Learn to watch more than 1 minute of the video before itching away with ants in pants, I have CLEARLY explained about mass manager and deep charge and WHY I have what i have ... people like you make me sad :(
Itching away after 1 minute and then leaving dumb comments without realizing that it's been explained on the video.
@@SethiozProject I said it was better that was all. You assume too much!
Deep charge will only give a little bit more than Mass Manager, but in exchange uses more fuel. A lot of Dolphin pilots including myself use Mass Manager for fuel efficiency over the small increase.
@@jamesbigglesworth4677 The guys an angry blithering idiot. Doesn't know how to play properly.
@@SethiozProjectYou are very confrontational and rude when it comes to responding to peoples’ opinions about something.
Man, why do most ships look so weird in this game?
Even EVE seems a lot more stylish, especially now since the revamp of most asymmetric ships.
I think they’re a more practical kinda style