God, I miss WCW. Back in the 90's, tribalism was a myth unless you lived in Georgia or New York. I used to watch Nitro live and record Raw on Mondays. Then I would watch Smackdown live and record Thunder on Thursdays. Then on Friday nights, we used to get together to watch ECW. It was my favourite time being a fan. The Monday after every PPV was the best because everyone at school would discuss results. I'm so happy we have options again today.
I remember that I was in the living room to start recording Nitro while Dad was finishing up dinner and Vince showed up on the screen. I knew Raw didn't start for another hour, but I still double checked to make sure the TV was on the right channel.
Iyo Sky is a pale imitation of Io Shirai in Stardom. She had some incredible matches there with several people including Mayu Iwatani and Momo Watanabe. She was hailed as the second coming of Manami Toyota who is considered by many to be the greatest female wrestler of all time. Watching Toyota vs Aja Kong or Akira Hokuto or a few others is absolutely incredible. Have to say you did fairly well with pronouncing Mayu and Utami. They have never been friends and though they have crossed paths, they were never in a big feud. The two factions have been at odds since their founding, but Mayu vs Io or Kagetsu was far bigger. Love the El Generico reference. As for chemistry I would say Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat or Gargagno and Tomaso Ciampa or Okada and Omega.
The big "What if" - Story of the late, great El Generico is still one of the biggest untold stories in wrestling. Maybe we get an awesome documentary at some point or maybe even a return...
I say he should watch Joshi from 80s and 90s more Bull Nakano, Akira Hokuto, Manami Toyota, and Aja Kong so basically the pillars of AJW😂 but can also watch Stardom and Marigold matches and maybe just maybe DDT or TJPW if he wants to have fun with wrestling
I highly recommend for you to have the opportunity to watch Lucha Underground. What a show. Iyo Sky, Chelsea green, Ricochet and other WWE-AEW starts were in that show and it had fantastic matches. Still don´t understand how it didin´t make it through the years.
Ooh! I know why it didn't make it. The answer is money. Due to presentation and filming methods, it was way more expensive to produce than other wrestling shows. You can tell the difference when you watch the stuff MLW put out that followed a similar format, had Dario involved onscreen, and looked 10 times worse. It was fun while it lasted though, and I agree he should give it a watch.
This is what the wrestling community is supposed to be like and used to be. People who all love wrestling and even have different types of wrestling that they like, and we all recommending each other matches, segments and wrestlers to want, and it expand our favorites and knowledge of the sport. I remember when I first saw TNA in 2011-2012 and was absolutely blow away because I never even thought another wrestling company outside of WWE even existed and I see familiar and new faces. When I saw their x division and their women having legit matches it was something I could not stop watching at the time. same thing when I found ROH and started watching NXT back in 2018 and now AEW. It is just fun and cool to talk about all these companies without having to see negativity.
This is exactly my life,,If it's not football ⚽ on weekend it's a bit of radio in morning 📻 then it's just TH-cam after TH-cam WWE Network or anything I can find lol
Yeah, that El Generico never amounted to anything. He died too young and never got the chance to be the most over star on the planet. He certainly never got to be in a prominent role in a story line at the top of the card or whatever.
I JUST SAW YOU WATCHED A HAYABUSA MATCH, HES MY ONE OF FAVORITE WRESTLER OF ALL TIME. and I saw some stardom matches too which is really cool. Need to eventually join the patreon at some point.
I’m in a similar boat as you. I started watching pro wrestling in January with the Royal Rumble and have just been trying to absorb as much knowledge as possible. This community is awesome and everyday I feel like I learn more about this awesome sport
This is 100% true. I watched WWE for years prior to AEW and it was hit garbage. Nothing mattered, the shows were being written on the fly, the fans were disrespected and punished for paying attention. This was even more apparent when the NXT Golden Era was happening 2014-2017 when WWE proved it could put out a tight one hour of TV where everything mattered and you were rewarded for being invested. Since AEW appeared WWE definitely upped its game considerably on Main Roster shows. I'm glad people are enjoying it now more - but I'm too far gone and jaded to get invested back in WWE but I'm glad people watching now have a better product
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774True, Bloodline really has cooled off and WWE now seemingly just want to sign every Pacific Islander that can work. AEW is still consistently top 5 on cable in their time slots in the demos that matter and Live/As Live sports type content always gets a premium. Bear in mind also that WWE is leaving it's broadcast homes for Netflix creating a gap in scheduofor identical content that would have spurred WBD on in to offering a small premium to deal the core products before open negotiations began on those. Ancillary programming may be moving away from WBD, but AEW are making bank and that's good for the business. It's also not just about competition for viewers, wrestlers are also hyped for having choices. The last record breaking deal WWE got was when they were haemorrhaging viewers and, as a weekly narrative TV show - it was objectively awful in every way, the broadcasters believed they paid market rate and got their value out of it.
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774 part of the reason for that is that WWE has adopted the things that made AEW stand out. You shouldn't be surprised by the TV deal. They crush most of their competition on Wednesday just like WWE does on their days. Networks don't care if they beat WWE they care that they beat their head to head comp
I have really enjoyed rewatching great matches I love and discovering matches I had never seen on the patreon. It's a ton of fun and your passion and excitement for wrestling really comes through in your watchalongs. Looking forward to continuing to watch your content and seeing what else you get up to.
To be honest tho if you haven't seen Lucha Underground do yourself a favor. You might find some real cool current wrestler's you didn't know spent some time there 👍
Dude you have an amazing take on how you view wrestling. Your explanation on Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan is just exactly what wrestling is about. You have a very good take on how crowds need to be a part of a match to make them great and enhance it. Also your opinion on having competition is great. Keep it up man love seeing a new wrestling fan and have such a positive take
As a fellow 1% watcher these last months, but without fans to recommend me matches, I took a different but wild approach. I've started watching everything on wwe network in chronological order, starting with starrcade 1983 and I'm currently halfway through 1985. And I'm having a blast, seeing a lot of legends in context has been more interesting than just the great matches. It's something I would recommend if you have a job where you can have these in the background.
Also, Mayu in my opinion really is one of the best right now. Her match with Sareee is a must seek out. Utami has a wealth of great matches too. Im glad you liked what you saw. Her and Iyo were in a team called Thunder Rock, Iyo then turned on Mayu and formed a group called Queens Quest, which Utami joined a couple months after Iyo left for WWE.
Just had a random idea hearing you talk about how you think some matches go too long just for the sake of being long. You're free to ignore or take it, it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other since I'm not tally tier. Basically I thought that one way to insentivise people to request more than primarily super long matches would be to make it so that you can request 2 matches or promos if they're both below X length. Let's say both either below 20, 15, 10 minutes or something, whatever limit one chooses. Because I feel like some might be requesting super long matches to maximize their monthly request. I think more people would request promos too, since promos tend to be much shorter than matches.
I just joined your Patreon, man. So many people look at pro wrestling on a surface level, and it's been great to see someone actually give this a real chance, and find out how deep and involved this thing is. It's almost impossible to find people reacting to full matches online. Everyone just reacts to crazy bumps and Mankind being thrown off the cell. Thank you for being the one person who's doing what I've been trying to find for years.
Four Pillars of Heaven 1995 at the Budokan, in-ring masterclass. if you have not watched it yet, or any other of their matches, then there is certainly something to look out for!
I have at least two matches you could see if you love Iyo Sky and that’s Iyo Sky Vs Utami Hayashishita-Marigold Summer Destiny 7/13/2024 Iyo absolutely shows her full power in this match and it’s honestly a MOTY Iyo Sky/Io Shirai Vs Rhea Ripley NXT women’s championship- NXT 11/18/2020 This match is the reason why I want Rhea to face Iyo at Wrestlemania 41 Rhea has never beaten Iyo in a singles match once and these two tore the house down
My submission for that Most Overrated Classic Match thing would be a match I saw between The Ultimate Warrior and The Undertaker. This was early Undertaker, so bear that in mind. I HATED that match! Not that it was bad, per se... but both wrestlers had No Selling as a KEY COMPONENT of their gimmick, and both wrestlers no sold everything, right up until the Warrior pinned Undertaker, and even then Undertaker kinda came right up after the three. For me, almost all the moves just seemed so... un-impactful? I wasn't crazy about that one.
I don't watch WWE these days, so can't comment on Finishers being protected there or not. In AEW though, the House all, Busaiko knee, Shatter Machine, Hidden Blade, Tiger Driver, One Winged Angel and Buckshot Lariat are either generally or entirely protected. If you only watch the big matches you will see near falls, shenanigans and whatnot - but a shatter machine or hidden blade in a TV match will finish it.
It's Hulk Hogan that started the trend of kicking out of finishers - starting back when he won the title from the Iron Shiek the first time (breaking the camel clutch). #1 reason I never liked Hogan.
Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan is part of my intro package to prowrestling when friends ask me about wrestling and it's exactly for the reason that you gave.
as far as the "time machine" question goes, obviously we should just move Bray Wyatt to Attitude Era so that he could have crazy feuds with Mankind, Undertaker and Kane (also prevent his untimely death somehow, but that's a different matter...)
13:10 That high flyer match exists mate.. NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 12 (2018) Fatal 4 Way - Marty Scurll vs Hiromu Takahashi vs Will Ospreay vs Kushida Absolute silliness 3 maniacs and Scurll grounding folk with technical wrestling. It's an absolute classic. Also get on CMLL if you want crazy hi-flying nuttiness. The weekly show is absolute peak Lucha right now.. Best in a generation with people like Atlantis Jnr, Templario, Neon etc
Not to knock but the title is kind of misleading. I fully expected this video to be you talking about the different matches and promotions that you watched and what you had to say about them.
@@stevenightfall6634 considering i do that during or after every match i watch on patreon, i didn't want to just end up making a long form of the exact content I'm already doing elsewhere.
For that in ring chemistry question I have to say HHH and Shawn Michaels. I haven't seen many of their matches together, but the ones I have seen they flow so well, and it never seems like they ever have to communicate about something well in the ring.
I think people confuse signature moves for an individual wrestler with finisher moves. For example, will ospreay signatures are the hidden blade and the oscutter and he can possibly win with those moves, but those moves in particular are not his finishers but are signatures. His finishers are Stormbreaker and Tigerdriver 91, which he calls stormdriver 93. The stormbreaker witch is my favorite finisher in all of wrestling. But he can't hit it all the time because it can aggravate his shoulder witch he says he has hole in a certian part of shoulder if im not mistaken. Witch is why he hits the hidden blade and stormdriver more often. i would like to think aew protects finishers more so then wwe does but i could be wrong. I know one of the most protected finishers in all of wrestling is kenny omega's 'one winged angel'. The only person to ever kick out of it was kota ibushi if my memory serves me correctly. i remember when cody did three cross roads on kevin owens to put him away and i didnt particularly like that bc i felt and still feel like three cross roads should be reserved for individuals that you need to pull out all the stops and more to put them tf away. Individuals like brock or omos or reed or strowman. Not to say k.o is not a threat but not a big or huge enough threat for you to feel the need to do three cross roads. Idk thats just me.
Just wanna say I love your attitude. As a relatively new fan to the business, you could honestly teach some jaded old heads a thing or two about enjoying what you enjoy without killing everyone else's vibe.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH IYO SKY IN JAPAN! Her match against Utami Hiyashishita from this year's Marigold Summer Destiny (can get a free week trial to Wrestle Universe and watch it for free on there) is a perfect jumping off point just to see how awesome she still really is to this day. Although it will make you wish WWE would allow her to go a little harder in the ring (although as good as the WWE women's division is currently they most likely wouldn't be able to keep up with full speed Iyo). Watching WWE Iyo is like watching Iyo at 70-80% speed (although she's still my absolute favorite in that promotion). Just a monster of a wrestler in Japan. Still a living legend there. If you want something from earlier than this year you can go back to her years in Stardom. Her trilogy against Mayu Iwatani is just such great in ring storytelling and I think you'd really enjoy it (not to mention you might have never seen Mayu wrestle and just like Iyo she's one of the legit GOATs in this profession).
Damn, I REALLY should've watched the whole video before commenting, realizing that you talk about a Mayu vs. Utami match ROFLMAO so even better if you already know a bit of those two. Btw, pronunciation on both was honestly pretty good. You got Mayu's perfectly. For Utami, instead of "she" twice it's "shh" twice. High-Yuh-Shh-Shh-Tuh.
And I guess while I'm here, I might as well give you some background on the trilogy and the Utami match. Basically, Iyo Sky (know as Io Shirai in Stardom), Kairi Zane (know as Kairi Hojo in Stardom) and Mayu Iwatani were known as the "three daughters of Stardom", christened that because of how close they were with the booker and founder of Stardom Rossy Ogawa (who now owns, runs, and books Marigold) and because of how important they all were to the growth of Stardom. If not for those three, we probably don't have a Stardom today. Iyo and Mayu were the closest of friends and basically sisters (to be honest in real life they still basically are as well) in a storyline sense before Iyo betrayed Mayu and created probably the most important Joshi faction of all time, Queen's Quest. Iyo being this super cocky, arrogant heel that abandoned Mayu simply because she didn't see her as being in her league, all the while Mayu being the epitome of an underdog babyface going against the tyrannical, overly confident (but rightfully so) heel in Iyo. Such good stuff. As for the Utami match, it is much simpler. Utami's favorite wrestler and main reason she became a pro wrestler was Io Shirai. She joined Stardom with the goal of facing Io in the ring. The only problem was Io got signed by the WWE and reported to NXT a month prior to Utami making her pro wrestling debut. That was in 2018. Utami went on to be known as the "super rookie" and basically had the greatest rookie year in Stardom ever. Most joshi rookies don't win much if any matches at all their first year and Utami was seen as so good she was winning titles in her first few months with the company. She became their main champion by age 21 and quite possibly had the most important joshi pro wrestling match of all time against Syuri (which if you haven't seen, you probably should check out as well). Dave Meltzer (notorious for not super loving women's wrestling) gave it 5 1/2 stars and that got a ton of new eyes on Stardom. After this, she became the leader of Queen's Quest (the faction that Io started) and defended her faction in that 6 v. 6 cage match you mentioned. But Rossy was fired by Stardom at the end of 2023 for trying to poach wrestlers for her new company he was in the process of starting, Marigold; and Utami left Stardom at the beginning of 2024 to go be Rossy's Ace in his new promotion. At their second Korakuen Hall show (basically a big non PPV show) after Utami won her main event match, Rossy told her he found an opponent for her at the PPV and Iyo popped up on the screen to cut a promo and make the match official after a month or so of speculation. You should DEFINITELY find this moment too as it is awesome to watch Utami's dream of wrestling Iyo come to reality in real time with Utami's real life very shocked and super happy reaction to it. Either she's the best actor, or she wasn't told beforehand. I prefer the latter. The match was between the best two Queen's Quest leaders in the history of the faction, a week after Queen's Quest had been disbandoned in Stardom. Quite poetic timing honestly.
My favorite match from before I was born was Roddy Piper vs Greg Valentine at Starcade An amazing dog collar match that is the template for those matches going forward.
have you watched super eyepatch wolf's videos? I have been watching wrestling for about 18 years and his video 'Professional Wrestling is Stupid and Beautiful and I Love it' is the one thing I would show to someone to help them understand
Yo! Been a viewer from the start and I'd like to ask could I recommend a documentary that goes into AEW's biggest storyline to date? It spanned from 2019-2021 and I think you'd really like it + learn more about AEW
If you want a CURRENT example of Iyo with the shackles off, watch her match with Utami from a couple of months ago. If you want what "I" consider her best WWE work, watch some of her NXT Championship run. ASUKA NOT INCLUDED (She went thru NXT undefeated) Iyo is MY personal favorite champ.
Bro... You created match of the year without even realizing it lmao Rochet vs. Dragon Lee vs. Will Ospreay in a triple threat would be INSANE!!! Maybe if one day WWE lets go of Dragon Lee, and Lee is AEW bound, we just may get that match.
I've been a wrestling fan for a LONG time. Lapsed for some time. Before more recently I only really watched WWF/E. Didn't even watch WCW back in the day (did play their game/s though). This video popped up for me today and then I went and watched some of your other videos. I've had the idea of going back and watching a bunch of matches but have never gotten around to it. This has inspired me to actually start making a list and watching. I might actually sign up to your patreon and check out what you've been watching.
Hi, this is a great video. I am glad you are a wrestling fan. You should check Enzo Amore, Paige and the great A.J Lee (WWE). I have been watching wrestling since from the old school days, I love em too but the modern days matches are fantastic.
i love that more ppl like wrestling nowadays no matter the promotion. Please like what you like 😊. The more wrestling fans we have, the better and healthier the industry is as a whole. I do wish some wrestling fans were more positive and open-minded to different approaches and styles instead of this one way, fits all mindset, but it what it is. With saying that, i have tried, but i just can't seem to watch wwe anymore. Witch makes me sad bc i grew up with it. I can't seem to enjoy it now, and it feels like a choir when I do try to watch it, unfortunately 😔 and ppl say it hot rn so i try to keep up with it. I like the talent, but I just can't connect with wwe programming currently. I find it to be too polished, glossy even, and the wrestling in itself leaves me more to be desired. Now I understand that no promotion is perfect and all wrestling organizations have their strengths and weaknesses and all comes down to preference and all art is subjective and pro wrestling is a art form and their is no right or wrong way to make art, art is expressive and self explanatory and subjective. But for whatever reason, these days I find myself enjoyin' aew, njpw, cmll, stardom, indie scene so on and so forth. I used lovee the black and gold brand of nxt, but this current iteration not so much. if ppl enjoy wwe all the power to them, and I'm glad they enjoy it, truly. At times, im even envious because i want to like it too, just like everyone else. But when i try to and believe me. i really have tried to. I just can't. a friend of mine who is a wwe fan would watch a wwe structured match, and it moves him, and when i watch it, it doesn't do the same for me. Witch bums me out bc im the type that wants to like everything. I like marvel and dc, i like playstation and xbox, i like game of thrones and lord of the rings. so i be askin' myself why cant i connect with this ?
If I could bring anyone back or forth It would be Eddie Guerrero now In a much safer work environment or MJF to the 2000s Invasion Storyline,,The trash talk he would do to WCW guys would be great 😃
If I had access to that time portal, I'd want to bring Luna Vachon to the present day. Her Dark Side Of The Ring episode hit my heart just the right way, and knowing that what she wanted so badly out of women's wrestling was A)a FAR CRY from what women's wrestling was during the Attitude Era, and B)a near perfect fit for what women's wrestling is now.
I grew up watching Jim Crockett Promotions, so I highly doubt there will ever come a day when WCW isn't my absolute all time favorite promotion. I did love the New Generation Era of the WWF as well. I usually watched my way through most every era though.
I feel like we already basically had MJF in the Attitude Era and his name was Chris Jericho. Their characters aren't exactly the same, but it is a very similar chickenshit heel type character and even when it comes to size and physique they are very similar. So MJF would have been given the same role as Jericho of an upper mid carder who can and does frequently mix it up at the main event level as well.
If you’re really interested you in Monday Night Wars related material, you should check out the Reliving the War series on the WrestlingBios channel. He actually reviews both shows week by week as if they were originally airing so it’s fun to go back and remember things or even learn new things about that time in wrestling history.
I know you mentioned not seeing much of Adam Cole. If you haven’t seen it already you need to go through the whole MJF and Adam Cole story from last year. It’s great from start to finish with unfortunately injuries to both of them cutting it short.
I remember my time as a new wrestling fan in 2005. It wasnt like it is today. There was not a lot of access to all the matches. Just had to search on youtube and watch whatever was there. Totally agree with you on Iyo Sky. I have seen her NXT matches in the past. But for some reason especially now where she wrestles almost every week on raw I realize even more how great she is. Right now she is my favorite to watch in the ring. Lyra Valkyria said in an Interview that she wants an Iron Woman match against Iyo Sky. I would love that too
Only finisher that is one and done is Kennys One Winged Angel,but yeah, i like to think todays finishers are more signature moves that the person had perfected. While a great wrestler CAN kick out of them, if they are not digging deep theyll be down for the 3 count.
MJF in the Attitude era would have had to wear lifts in his shoes to get a push because he would have been too small. How many small men were on top in the attitude era? Only Jericho at the end and he was not presented all that well.
El Generico = Sami Zain ;) From the little bit i know bout you, you really would enjoy lucha underground :) (a promotion produced by robert rodriguez himself)
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I have a man, his name is Simon Miller, with both of y’all’s positivity in the wrestling scene, we can fix everything. Love the content.
vouching for this! Simon's great!!
Simon Miller definitely
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God, I miss WCW. Back in the 90's, tribalism was a myth unless you lived in Georgia or New York. I used to watch Nitro live and record Raw on Mondays. Then I would watch Smackdown live and record Thunder on Thursdays. Then on Friday nights, we used to get together to watch ECW. It was my favourite time being a fan. The Monday after every PPV was the best because everyone at school would discuss results. I'm so happy we have options again today.
I remember that I was in the living room to start recording Nitro while Dad was finishing up dinner and Vince showed up on the screen. I knew Raw didn't start for another hour, but I still double checked to make sure the TV was on the right channel.
Tribalism was massive in the 90s haha
@@Suspect333 nah it wasn't. We were doing DX crotch chops with nwo shirts on.
@@Starsaber222 it was so surreal. It would be like Mickey Mouse showing up on Looney Tunes.
@@cityandlocal To be fair I was an ECW fan lol
Iyo Sky is a pale imitation of Io Shirai in Stardom. She had some incredible matches there with several people including Mayu Iwatani and Momo Watanabe. She was hailed as the second coming of Manami Toyota who is considered by many to be the greatest female wrestler of all time.
Watching Toyota vs Aja Kong or Akira Hokuto or a few others is absolutely incredible.
Have to say you did fairly well with pronouncing Mayu and Utami. They have never been friends and though they have crossed paths, they were never in a big feud. The two factions have been at odds since their founding, but Mayu vs Io or Kagetsu was far bigger.
Love the El Generico reference.
As for chemistry I would say Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat or Gargagno and Tomaso Ciampa or Okada and Omega.
UTAMI AND MAYU MENTIONED OMG I LOVE YOU SO MUCH
The big "What if" - Story of the late, great El Generico is still one of the biggest untold stories in wrestling. Maybe we get an awesome documentary at some point or maybe even a return...
Yeah, it's a shame. He died way too young.
I'm pretty sure Kevin Steen killed him, but I have no proof. The scary thought is that Steen is still walking free somewhere.
@@updatedude last i heard he was actually in witness protection all along! mexican cartells are still looking for him
Could've sworn he perished while saving an entire class of children that were trapped inside of a burning schoolhouse in Mexico.
I didn't realise that he had died. I heard he was running an orphanage in Mexico after he was put in witness protection program. RIP El Generico
El generico had a shot to be an all time great but he was mixed up with the cartel and disappeared 😢
Funny, I heard that he retired and was running an orphanage.
He's helping children in Africa, he's not disappeared, just focused on teaching africans Spanish
You gotta watch some AJPW from like 93 to 2000 they had some amazing matches with misawa, kobashi, akiyama, Kawada and so many more!
I say he should watch Joshi from 80s and 90s more Bull Nakano, Akira Hokuto, Manami Toyota, and Aja Kong so basically the pillars of AJW😂 but can also watch Stardom and Marigold matches and maybe just maybe DDT or TJPW if he wants to have fun with wrestling
This is what's stressing me out ,,Can I watch any of these matches on NJPW world app ? ,, people saying they cut a lot of stuff from the app
@@MongTom They have you carnt find hardly any of ligers 90s jr run or any of the best of the super jrs or super j cups from the 90s as well
I highly recommend for you to have the opportunity to watch Lucha Underground. What a show. Iyo Sky, Chelsea green, Ricochet and other WWE-AEW starts were in that show and it had fantastic matches. Still don´t understand how it didin´t make it through the years.
Don’t waste your time. Honestly , don’t waste your time.
Ooh! I know why it didn't make it. The answer is money. Due to presentation and filming methods, it was way more expensive to produce than other wrestling shows. You can tell the difference when you watch the stuff MLW put out that followed a similar format, had Dario involved onscreen, and looked 10 times worse.
It was fun while it lasted though, and I agree he should give it a watch.
Invisible man vs invisible stan.
The most bloody match I've ever seen.
that match is an absolute CLASSIC
Absolute slobberknocker
peak wrestling
This is what the wrestling community is supposed to be like and used to be. People who all love wrestling and even have different types of wrestling that they like, and we all recommending each other matches, segments and wrestlers to want, and it expand our favorites and knowledge of the sport.
I remember when I first saw TNA in 2011-2012 and was absolutely blow away because I never even thought another wrestling company outside of WWE even existed and I see familiar and new faces. When I saw their x division and their women having legit matches it was something I could not stop watching at the time.
same thing when I found ROH and started watching NXT back in 2018 and now AEW. It is just fun and cool to talk about all these companies without having to see negativity.
well said this comment gets golden up the negativity is not needed
…this guy….this guy gets it..
i made "getting it" my ultimate goal
This is exactly my life,,If it's not football ⚽ on weekend it's a bit of radio in morning 📻 then it's just TH-cam after TH-cam WWE Network or anything I can find lol
Man, if you loved Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan, you're gonna like Joey Janela vs Jimmy Lloyd's Social Distancing Match.
Theres a crazy match in lucha underground, pentagon vs three joshis, two of them being iyo and kairi its awesome
You are fast becoming one one my favourite wrestling TH-camrs, alongside Simon Miller, who also has a really positive attitude towards it all.
Thank you!
Hopefully one day we get El Generico vs Sami Zayn
Yeah, that El Generico never amounted to anything. He died too young and never got the chance to be the most over star on the planet. He certainly never got to be in a prominent role in a story line at the top of the card or whatever.
Does he not know who El Generico currently is? I thought he was just bummed about the loss of the character. Lol 😆
He’s new but he’s been watching too much wrestling for him to not be trolling with this 😂
@@williamroper5422 What do you mean? El Generico unfortunately passed away quite a few years ago while at his orphanage.
@@williamroper5422 He's in on the joke. I feel like it's overdone at this point, but it came up in discussion on a recent match reaction.
I JUST SAW YOU WATCHED A HAYABUSA MATCH, HES MY ONE OF FAVORITE WRESTLER OF ALL TIME. and I saw some stardom matches too which is really cool. Need to eventually join the patreon at some point.
I’m in a similar boat as you. I started watching pro wrestling in January with the Royal Rumble and have just been trying to absorb as much knowledge as possible. This community is awesome and everyday I feel like I learn more about this awesome sport
The competition point is so true. I do not think WWE would be as good as it is right now without AEW pushing them to make changes
This is 100% true. I watched WWE for years prior to AEW and it was hit garbage. Nothing mattered, the shows were being written on the fly, the fans were disrespected and punished for paying attention. This was even more apparent when the NXT Golden Era was happening 2014-2017 when WWE proved it could put out a tight one hour of TV where everything mattered and you were rewarded for being invested.
Since AEW appeared WWE definitely upped its game considerably on Main Roster shows. I'm glad people are enjoying it now more - but I'm too far gone and jaded to get invested back in WWE but I'm glad people watching now have a better product
Not really getting pushed past few years. I'm surprised they got such good tv deal tbh
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774True, Bloodline really has cooled off and WWE now seemingly just want to sign every Pacific Islander that can work.
AEW is still consistently top 5 on cable in their time slots in the demos that matter and Live/As Live sports type content always gets a premium.
Bear in mind also that WWE is leaving it's broadcast homes for Netflix creating a gap in scheduofor identical content that would have spurred WBD on in to offering a small premium to deal the core products before open negotiations began on those. Ancillary programming may be moving away from WBD, but AEW are making bank and that's good for the business.
It's also not just about competition for viewers, wrestlers are also hyped for having choices.
The last record breaking deal WWE got was when they were haemorrhaging viewers and, as a weekly narrative TV show - it was objectively awful in every way, the broadcasters believed they paid market rate and got their value out of it.
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774 part of the reason for that is that WWE has adopted the things that made AEW stand out. You shouldn't be surprised by the TV deal. They crush most of their competition on Wednesday just like WWE does on their days. Networks don't care if they beat WWE they care that they beat their head to head comp
For the Shayna Bazler thing, Watch the elimination chamber where she eliminated almost everyone
Will Osperay, Rey Mysterio, and Eddie Guerrero in a triple threat is one of the most amazing match concepts I’ve ever heard of
I have really enjoyed rewatching great matches I love and discovering matches I had never seen on the patreon. It's a ton of fun and your passion and excitement for wrestling really comes through in your watchalongs. Looking forward to continuing to watch your content and seeing what else you get up to.
Glad you enjoy it! I do too
To be honest tho if you haven't seen Lucha Underground do yourself a favor. You might find some real cool current wrestler's you didn't know spent some time there 👍
YES!!
I think I've seen exactly one lucha underground match, and i found out afterwards one of them was ricochet lol
@@Dporticus yes! Prince Puma 👍
Io Shirai vs Mayu Iwatani ( 12/22/16 is probably the best one ) if you wanted one of Iyo’s old matches for the poll.
Dude you have an amazing take on how you view wrestling. Your explanation on Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan is just exactly what wrestling is about. You have a very good take on how crowds need to be a part of a match to make them great and enhance it. Also your opinion on having competition is great. Keep it up man love seeing a new wrestling fan and have such a positive take
I appreciate it!
You seem like a very kind dude
That's kind of you to say!
Hey D
Mayu vs Utami is from Stardom. Stardom is the sister pormotion of New Japan and they are not the same company. Cheers man.
They have the same parent company. Like how NOAH and DDT IS owned by Cyberfight
@@themilkman5004It wasn't a NJPW show he watched, that's the point.
As a fellow 1% watcher these last months, but without fans to recommend me matches, I took a different but wild approach. I've started watching everything on wwe network in chronological order, starting with starrcade 1983 and I'm currently halfway through 1985. And I'm having a blast, seeing a lot of legends in context has been more interesting than just the great matches. It's something I would recommend if you have a job where you can have these in the background.
Same but starting at WM 30, just the PPVs tho.
I'm currently at Payback 2015.
Also, Mayu in my opinion really is one of the best right now. Her match with Sareee is a must seek out. Utami has a wealth of great matches too. Im glad you liked what you saw. Her and Iyo were in a team called Thunder Rock, Iyo then turned on Mayu and formed a group called Queens Quest, which Utami joined a couple months after Iyo left for WWE.
oh no the trolling rubbing off on you now lol 27:23
Look up BJW 😆 Good luck
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Just had a random idea hearing you talk about how you think some matches go too long just for the sake of being long. You're free to ignore or take it, it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other since I'm not tally tier. Basically I thought that one way to insentivise people to request more than primarily super long matches would be to make it so that you can request 2 matches or promos if they're both below X length. Let's say both either below 20, 15, 10 minutes or something, whatever limit one chooses. Because I feel like some might be requesting super long matches to maximize their monthly request. I think more people would request promos too, since promos tend to be much shorter than matches.
I had actually considered that for September, but was going to save it for if it felt needed.
I just joined your Patreon, man. So many people look at pro wrestling on a surface level, and it's been great to see someone actually give this a real chance, and find out how deep and involved this thing is. It's almost impossible to find people reacting to full matches online. Everyone just reacts to crazy bumps and Mankind being thrown off the cell. Thank you for being the one person who's doing what I've been trying to find for years.
@@LeftyBassistFTW happy to have you! Thank you!
Four Pillars of Heaven 1995 at the Budokan, in-ring masterclass. if you have not watched it yet, or any other of their matches, then there is certainly something to look out for!
Joshi wrestling in the 90s was absolutely mad
ECW. One Night Stand. Rey Mysterio vs Sabu. SPECTACULAR match! All about the respect of the business and the passion off the craft.
My favorite non-Wrestlemania WWE event I´ve ever watched live on tv. RVD vs Cena crowd...wow.
I have at least two matches you could see if you love Iyo Sky and that’s
Iyo Sky Vs Utami Hayashishita-Marigold Summer Destiny 7/13/2024
Iyo absolutely shows her full power in this match and it’s honestly a MOTY
Iyo Sky/Io Shirai Vs Rhea Ripley NXT women’s championship- NXT 11/18/2020
This match is the reason why I want Rhea to face Iyo at Wrestlemania 41 Rhea has never beaten Iyo in a singles match once and these two tore the house down
My submission for that Most Overrated Classic Match thing would be a match I saw between The Ultimate Warrior and The Undertaker. This was early Undertaker, so bear that in mind. I HATED that match! Not that it was bad, per se... but both wrestlers had No Selling as a KEY COMPONENT of their gimmick, and both wrestlers no sold everything, right up until the Warrior pinned Undertaker, and even then Undertaker kinda came right up after the three. For me, almost all the moves just seemed so... un-impactful? I wasn't crazy about that one.
I don't watch WWE these days, so can't comment on Finishers being protected there or not. In AEW though, the House all, Busaiko knee, Shatter Machine, Hidden Blade, Tiger Driver, One Winged Angel and Buckshot Lariat are either generally or entirely protected. If you only watch the big matches you will see near falls, shenanigans and whatnot - but a shatter machine or hidden blade in a TV match will finish it.
It's Hulk Hogan that started the trend of kicking out of finishers - starting back when he won the title from the Iron Shiek the first time (breaking the camel clutch).
#1 reason I never liked Hogan.
Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan is part of my intro package to prowrestling when friends ask me about wrestling and it's exactly for the reason that you gave.
For Iyo go watch her match with Pentagon in Lucha Underground. It’s a banger
That El Generico bit 😂😂😂
You are a real one. OLÉ
I'm learning
There some matches on Patreon that I don’t even know the wrestlers involved.
as far as the "time machine" question goes, obviously we should just move Bray Wyatt to Attitude Era so that he could have crazy feuds with Mankind, Undertaker and Kane (also prevent his untimely death somehow, but that's a different matter...)
13:10 That high flyer match exists mate.. NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 12 (2018) Fatal 4 Way - Marty Scurll vs Hiromu Takahashi vs Will Ospreay vs Kushida
Absolute silliness 3 maniacs and Scurll grounding folk with technical wrestling. It's an absolute classic.
Also get on CMLL if you want crazy hi-flying nuttiness. The weekly show is absolute peak Lucha right now.. Best in a generation with people like Atlantis Jnr, Templario, Neon etc
Damn, now that you mentioned him, I miss Marty.
@@vargsieberI really don't. Keep scum out of the biz.
Bro is joking about el generico right?
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Dude watch rvd vs. Jerry Lynn ECW
Not to knock but the title is kind of misleading. I fully expected this video to be you talking about the different matches and promotions that you watched and what you had to say about them.
@@stevenightfall6634 considering i do that during or after every match i watch on patreon, i didn't want to just end up making a long form of the exact content I'm already doing elsewhere.
I'm wanting to get into the Golden Lovers Tag team with Kenny Omega but hard to find a page with "must watch complete match history"
For that in ring chemistry question I have to say HHH and Shawn Michaels. I haven't seen many of their matches together, but the ones I have seen they flow so well, and it never seems like they ever have to communicate about something well in the ring.
I think people confuse signature moves for an individual wrestler with finisher moves.
For example, will ospreay signatures are the hidden blade and the oscutter and he can possibly win with those moves, but those moves in particular are not his finishers but are signatures. His finishers are Stormbreaker and Tigerdriver 91, which he calls stormdriver 93. The stormbreaker witch is my favorite finisher in all of wrestling. But he can't hit it all the time because it can aggravate his shoulder witch he says he has hole in a certian part of shoulder if im not mistaken.
Witch is why he hits the hidden blade and stormdriver more often. i would like to think aew protects finishers more so then wwe does but i could be wrong. I know one of the most protected finishers in all of wrestling is kenny omega's 'one winged angel'. The only person to ever kick out of it was kota ibushi if my memory serves me correctly.
i remember when cody did three cross roads on kevin owens to put him away and i didnt particularly like that bc i felt and still feel like three cross roads should be reserved for individuals that you need to pull out all the stops and more to put them tf away. Individuals like brock or omos or reed or strowman. Not to say k.o is not a threat but not a big or huge enough threat for you to feel the need to do three cross roads. Idk thats just me.
Just wanna say I love your attitude. As a relatively new fan to the business, you could honestly teach some jaded old heads a thing or two about enjoying what you enjoy without killing everyone else's vibe.
Amen
Adam Cole & MJF had a run as a tag team to set up a feud was solid
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH IYO SKY IN JAPAN! Her match against Utami Hiyashishita from this year's Marigold Summer Destiny (can get a free week trial to Wrestle Universe and watch it for free on there) is a perfect jumping off point just to see how awesome she still really is to this day. Although it will make you wish WWE would allow her to go a little harder in the ring (although as good as the WWE women's division is currently they most likely wouldn't be able to keep up with full speed Iyo). Watching WWE Iyo is like watching Iyo at 70-80% speed (although she's still my absolute favorite in that promotion). Just a monster of a wrestler in Japan. Still a living legend there. If you want something from earlier than this year you can go back to her years in Stardom. Her trilogy against Mayu Iwatani is just such great in ring storytelling and I think you'd really enjoy it (not to mention you might have never seen Mayu wrestle and just like Iyo she's one of the legit GOATs in this profession).
Damn, I REALLY should've watched the whole video before commenting, realizing that you talk about a Mayu vs. Utami match ROFLMAO so even better if you already know a bit of those two. Btw, pronunciation on both was honestly pretty good. You got Mayu's perfectly. For Utami, instead of "she" twice it's "shh" twice. High-Yuh-Shh-Shh-Tuh.
And I guess while I'm here, I might as well give you some background on the trilogy and the Utami match. Basically, Iyo Sky (know as Io Shirai in Stardom), Kairi Zane (know as Kairi Hojo in Stardom) and Mayu Iwatani were known as the "three daughters of Stardom", christened that because of how close they were with the booker and founder of Stardom Rossy Ogawa (who now owns, runs, and books Marigold) and because of how important they all were to the growth of Stardom. If not for those three, we probably don't have a Stardom today. Iyo and Mayu were the closest of friends and basically sisters (to be honest in real life they still basically are as well) in a storyline sense before Iyo betrayed Mayu and created probably the most important Joshi faction of all time, Queen's Quest. Iyo being this super cocky, arrogant heel that abandoned Mayu simply because she didn't see her as being in her league, all the while Mayu being the epitome of an underdog babyface going against the tyrannical, overly confident (but rightfully so) heel in Iyo. Such good stuff.
As for the Utami match, it is much simpler. Utami's favorite wrestler and main reason she became a pro wrestler was Io Shirai. She joined Stardom with the goal of facing Io in the ring. The only problem was Io got signed by the WWE and reported to NXT a month prior to Utami making her pro wrestling debut. That was in 2018. Utami went on to be known as the "super rookie" and basically had the greatest rookie year in Stardom ever. Most joshi rookies don't win much if any matches at all their first year and Utami was seen as so good she was winning titles in her first few months with the company. She became their main champion by age 21 and quite possibly had the most important joshi pro wrestling match of all time against Syuri (which if you haven't seen, you probably should check out as well). Dave Meltzer (notorious for not super loving women's wrestling) gave it 5 1/2 stars and that got a ton of new eyes on Stardom. After this, she became the leader of Queen's Quest (the faction that Io started) and defended her faction in that 6 v. 6 cage match you mentioned. But Rossy was fired by Stardom at the end of 2023 for trying to poach wrestlers for her new company he was in the process of starting, Marigold; and Utami left Stardom at the beginning of 2024 to go be Rossy's Ace in his new promotion. At their second Korakuen Hall show (basically a big non PPV show) after Utami won her main event match, Rossy told her he found an opponent for her at the PPV and Iyo popped up on the screen to cut a promo and make the match official after a month or so of speculation. You should DEFINITELY find this moment too as it is awesome to watch Utami's dream of wrestling Iyo come to reality in real time with Utami's real life very shocked and super happy reaction to it. Either she's the best actor, or she wasn't told beforehand. I prefer the latter. The match was between the best two Queen's Quest leaders in the history of the faction, a week after Queen's Quest had been disbandoned in Stardom. Quite poetic timing honestly.
My favorite match from before I was born was Roddy Piper vs Greg Valentine at Starcade
An amazing dog collar match that is the template for those matches going forward.
have you watched super eyepatch wolf's videos? I have been watching wrestling for about 18 years and his video 'Professional Wrestling is Stupid and Beautiful and I Love it' is the one thing I would show to someone to help them understand
Yo! Been a viewer from the start and I'd like to ask could I recommend a documentary that goes into AEW's biggest storyline to date? It spanned from 2019-2021 and I think you'd really like it + learn more about AEW
If you want a CURRENT example of Iyo with the shackles off, watch her match with Utami from a couple of months ago. If you want what "I" consider her best WWE work, watch some of her NXT Championship run. ASUKA NOT INCLUDED (She went thru NXT undefeated) Iyo is MY personal favorite champ.
Bro... You created match of the year without even realizing it lmao Rochet vs. Dragon Lee vs. Will Ospreay in a triple threat would be INSANE!!! Maybe if one day WWE lets go of Dragon Lee, and Lee is AEW bound, we just may get that match.
I've been a wrestling fan for a LONG time. Lapsed for some time. Before more recently I only really watched WWF/E. Didn't even watch WCW back in the day (did play their game/s though).
This video popped up for me today and then I went and watched some of your other videos. I've had the idea of going back and watching a bunch of matches but have never gotten around to it. This has inspired me to actually start making a list and watching. I might actually sign up to your patreon and check out what you've been watching.
Hi, this is a great video. I am glad you are a wrestling fan. You should check Enzo Amore, Paige and the great A.J Lee (WWE). I have been watching wrestling since from the old school days, I love em too but the modern days matches are fantastic.
i love that more ppl like wrestling nowadays no matter the promotion. Please like what you like 😊. The more wrestling fans we have, the better and healthier the industry is as a whole. I do wish some wrestling fans were more positive and open-minded to different approaches and styles instead of this one way, fits all mindset, but it what it is.
With saying that, i have tried, but i just can't seem to watch wwe anymore. Witch makes me sad bc i grew up with it. I can't seem to enjoy it now, and it feels like a choir when I do try to watch it, unfortunately 😔 and ppl say it hot rn so i try to keep up with it. I like the talent, but I just can't connect with wwe programming currently. I find it to be too polished, glossy even, and the wrestling in itself leaves me more to be desired. Now I understand that no promotion is perfect and all wrestling organizations have their strengths and weaknesses and all comes down to preference and all art is subjective and pro wrestling is a art form and their is no right or wrong way to make art, art is expressive and self explanatory and subjective.
But for whatever reason, these days I find myself enjoyin' aew, njpw, cmll, stardom, indie scene so on and so forth. I used lovee the black and gold brand of nxt, but this current iteration not so much.
if ppl enjoy wwe all the power to them, and I'm glad they enjoy it, truly. At times, im even envious because i want to like it too, just like everyone else. But when i try to and believe me. i really have tried to. I just can't. a friend of mine who is a wwe fan would watch a wwe structured match, and it moves him, and when i watch it, it doesn't do the same for me. Witch bums me out bc im the type that wants to like everything. I like marvel and dc, i like playstation and xbox, i like game of thrones and lord of the rings. so i be askin' myself why cant i connect with this ?
If I could bring anyone back or forth It would be Eddie Guerrero now In a much safer work environment or MJF to the 2000s Invasion Storyline,,The trash talk he would do to WCW guys would be great 😃
If I had access to that time portal, I'd want to bring Luna Vachon to the present day. Her Dark Side Of The Ring episode hit my heart just the right way, and knowing that what she wanted so badly out of women's wrestling was A)a FAR CRY from what women's wrestling was during the Attitude Era, and B)a near perfect fit for what women's wrestling is now.
I grew up watching Jim Crockett Promotions, so I highly doubt there will ever come a day when WCW isn't my absolute all time favorite promotion. I did love the New Generation Era of the WWF as well. I usually watched my way through most every era though.
I almost spit out my drink at the Bill Alfonso comment. I love Fonzi, but I can definitely see why people would hate him. lol
I have not watched your patron but have you watched Omega Vs Okada at wrestle kingdom 11 yet?
Iyo Sky vs Candice LeRae from Takeover Portland is a match you should definitely checkout.
You know youve become a true wrestling nerd when youre doing El Generico memes
I feel like we already basically had MJF in the Attitude Era and his name was Chris Jericho. Their characters aren't exactly the same, but it is a very similar chickenshit heel type character and even when it comes to size and physique they are very similar. So MJF would have been given the same role as Jericho of an upper mid carder who can and does frequently mix it up at the main event level as well.
If you’re really interested you in Monday Night Wars related material, you should check out the Reliving the War series on the WrestlingBios channel. He actually reviews both shows week by week as if they were originally airing so it’s fun to go back and remember things or even learn new things about that time in wrestling history.
I know you mentioned not seeing much of Adam Cole. If you haven’t seen it already you need to go through the whole MJF and Adam Cole story from last year. It’s great from start to finish with unfortunately injuries to both of them cutting it short.
I completely, 100% agree with El Generico. But the orphans needed him...
Dude I am so with you on Shana Bazler. I liked her NXT stuff but the main roster stuff now is always skippable on dvr
I remember my time as a new wrestling fan in 2005. It wasnt like it is today. There was not a lot of access to all the matches. Just had to search on youtube and watch whatever was there. Totally agree with you on Iyo Sky. I have seen her NXT matches in the past. But for some reason especially now where she wrestles almost every week on raw I realize even more how great she is. Right now she is my favorite to watch in the ring. Lyra Valkyria said in an Interview that she wants an Iron Woman match against Iyo Sky. I would love that too
Only finisher that is one and done is Kennys One Winged Angel,but yeah, i like to think todays finishers are more signature moves that the person had perfected. While a great wrestler CAN kick out of them, if they are not digging deep theyll be down for the 3 count.
The thing about MJF in the attitude era is it probably wouldnt take long before he was a face
Also LA Knight in the attitude era would probably slap
For Iyo, they have a couple of her matches with Mayu Iwatani in early Stardom on TH-cam. They also got a match with Kairi too.
I'm so glad you've already gotten into the super silly side of wrestling with the Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan shout lol
Dude Ospreay vs Eddie would have been a fucking barn burner, and now I just can’t stop thinking about it
MJF in the Attitude era would have had to wear lifts in his shoes to get a push because he would have been too small. How many small men were on top in the attitude era? Only Jericho at the end and he was not presented all that well.
El Generico = Sami Zain ;)
From the little bit i know bout you, you really would enjoy lucha underground :)
(a promotion produced by robert rodriguez himself)
El Generico is missed in the ring, but those orphans in Mexico have a better chance at life because of him.
We need a video of this man going through the Kenny Omega vs Kazuchika Okada saga.
Sup bro im wondering if u have seen any of the Kenny omega v Okada matches
Shayna is horribly booked, she could be a force if booked correctly.
Love the Mayu iwatani shoutout, top 3 best wrestlers in the world rn
Are you going to wrestlemania? I’d love to meet you there
I can't tell if he's joking about El Generico not making it lol
El generico is Sammy Zayne I think he did alright?
I just seen the MJF vs CM Punk on the mic, was awesome.
Hoping to gather up some spending cash to join a higher tier and give you some Iyo matches from Japan
My guy tna is magic, watch the aces and eights story
"Which wrestler never got used by a major promotion?"
"El Generico"
...Yep. He's a real one now.
I'm home
Will ospray vs kenny omega
Jun Kasai is everyone's family favorite #1 pro wrestler all time 💪😎