A Land Fit for Heroes? The Treatment of WWI Veterans in Great Britain
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British Veterans of the first world war had trusted their nation when the war had started in 1914.
But after 1918, it seemed like the promise of a Land fit for heroes was not a reality.
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Like my grandfather used to say: “Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gates”.
The same people who spitting the vets will kneel and beg to them for protection.
Max Luxton wise words
@@Joshua_N-A indeed
Tommy by Rudyard Kipling sums it up
@@Joshua_N-A fact right there
Governments: "You were expected to die for your country, but you survived so tough luck"
lol yeah
Thats kinda dark g
it is even worse if your side lost
Imperialistic Europe : *look different direction*
Ha! That sounds like the Soviets. Or the North Koreans, or the chinese.
On his return home, one German soldier noted that "we were spat at by whores and deserters and had our shoulder boards torn off, by those who had never even seen a battle".
Those poor SoB’s
Liberals always seem to forget it’s the politicians, *their* politicians who created the war
@@adolfgaming1761 what a stupid thing to say. Like George V, Kaiser Wilhelm, Tsar Nicholas, and Emperor Franz Joseph were liberals? Moron
Maybe just...imperialistic politicians in general
@@grontelp77 If you wanna do politics, do something more than attack someone's intellect. Otherwise be quite, adults are talking.
I think liberals seek imperialism more than conservatives. The democrats here in the US want to bring America into all these global things where as the conservatives want to keep American interests in America. The old imperialist ways of conquest don't work in the nuclear age, This is modern imperialism.
My Great Grandfather signed up and was sent to the front in 1916. He and all the lads on his street signed up together. He became a grenadier guard and fought at the Somme and I am not sure where else until 1917 where he inhaled gas before his sergeant managed to pull a gas mask over his face. He was given 6 months to live but lived to a grand age of 95.
He was a machine gunner so avoided the risk of having to go 'over the top' but I know he suffered too. His gun was hit twice on the opening day of the Somme offensive and the story goes that at the end of the day, he was joking around his mate and an officer walking past remarked that he must be the only man in the British Army laughing , I guess word hadn't come down of the absolute catastrophe that that day had been. I know that had also been a part of a group of men that snuck out into no mans land to retrieve a wounded soldier, for which his NCO was awarded a medal.
He experienced joblessness after the war and the indignity of being made to queue outside the labour exchange in all weathers, he caused such a ruckus there that the veterans were allowed to wait inside the building and were referred to as Mr. A small victory. He was so disgusted with the treatment that they received that he emigrated to Canada where he made a decent income in construction and returned to England a decade later, married and with a son.
Henry James Betts - Grenadier Guard. My hero.
Thanks for reading.
Thanks For sharing your story
Fascinating read, thanks for sharing!
Great, I'm crying, the baby's crying, oh great now the dogs crying.....
Jokes aside this did get me :( atleast this story had a happy ending ✌️
Yeah my grandfather fought in ww1 (he was 50 when my dad was born and my dad was 40 when I was born) and had to work into his mid 70s before he could get any kind of pension because they messed up his records, never got a chance to meet him.
@@motionkabi are you 14 ?
Isn't it weird that people who sacrifice their lives only get a few dollars while the people that has never seen the frontline get thousands.
Millions brother*
Bullshit youtubers being rich while people like this channel can't say some simple words. Our society got soft and stupid.
Well jobs like construction are also hard because construction workers have a chance of dying from falling from heights and stuff like that
Its not weird its people being clueless sheep. Mind fucked into believing they're fighting for their "country" and "ideals."
@@shreygera1281 in a memoir I read it says the retirement money was a few pounds for a average soldier and a few thousand for the higher ups.
One of the last surviving veterans of WWI came to my secondary school in 2008 to answer questions for my classmates, who were doing their GCSEs in history. He told my headteacher something I will never forget: "I am so grateful to have fought for a generation that is so confident and inspiring today."
Bless you and RIP Henry Allingham (6 June 1896 - 18 July 2009) 😢
Huh.. Look at his birthday. I wonder how he feel at his birthday in 1944 when the Allied start to liberate France from Germany. Seeing his son's generation take a fight to the enemy he fought decades ago. RIP.
@@johncarter4956 Germans in WW2 were different. In WW1, some, if not most, British soldiers would have rathered to fight the French with the Germans than the Germans with the French.
R.I.P
@sketchy scotsman Yes... one of the few WWI veterans who reached supercentenarian status (those who've lived at least 110 years).
What did he tell u
Those we fight, aren't necessarily our enemies. Those we fight for aren't necessarily our friends.
The christmas truce of 1914 is proof of this quote. It really warms my heart to read about enemies having fun and sharing gifts among each other. If it weren't for the war, all of those men would most likely have been friends
@@alexthibodeau979 when they knew that they were all just people and didnt have much differences. Sadly the higher ups made sure they started killing each other again and because of all the stupid people who were the leaders at the time their kids could do it all again about 20 years later
@@bpdbhp1632 In that situation, I can't help but think that if they had all just chosen to leave together or to defend one another, well who knows.
Is this your quote or someone else's?
Cos man it's actually pretty good
@@potatoesandducks958 Thanks, i wish could claim authorship. But it's something i picked up some years ago.
"But nobody cheered,
They just stood there and stared,
Then turned all their faces away."
And the band played Waltzing Matilda
@@a-10thunderboltii24 And their ghosts may be heard as they march by that Billabong.
Who'll come a waltzing matilda with me?
*Straya*
And the band plays Waltzing Matilda
And the old men still answer the call
But year after year
Their numbers get fewer
Someday no one will march there at all
@@Nogu3 I will. As a World War One living historian, I tell the story for those who no longer can.
My great grandfather lied about his age to join the British Army to fight in WWI. He was sent to the battlefields of Europe, where, during a gas attack, he was unfortunate enough to inhale some of the gas. He returned home after the war and grew his family. He died in 1949 due to lung disease. We never knew whether the gas he inhaled had to do with it or not. Thank you for making this video, and shedding light on these brave and under appreciated men.
No. Thank you for sharing this short story, rest in peace to your grandfather
I would like to thank your grandfather for fighting for our freedom and us and our future ❤️
May your grandfather forevermore be remembered as a hero. I thank him for his service.
My greatgrandfather served in the german army in ww1 as he came home he had a Bullet in his lung that couldnt be removed. He had difficulties with breathing for the rest of bis live.
God bless the Veterans all over the World!
@@marksman6004 fighting for one's country should never be looked down upon. Despite the differences in ideals your grandfather also deserves respect.
Being talked down to by people who wouldn’t last a day is pretty common for those getting out, it’s honestly quite sad.
i know right
Hey now, at least we get a free meal on Veteran's Day in the US! (Sarcasm) Many people in the US think that our Veterans Administration takes care of everything for us, that couldn't be farther from the truth. The VA can be a nightmare worse than combat.
It seems to go in highs and lows with the conflict level around the world... when I was in around 9/11 I felt like a rockstar all the way till I finished my tour... nowadays there’s almost an active disdain for us (almost like what the video is portraying with WWI vets) honestly think the only reason companies hire vets is because the tax credit (and not because they’re “being here for the heroes”)
@@robertharper3754 damn
@@Uhaneole In all honesty, Britain during the mid 19th century had the same problem were soldiers were shat on by the population...until the Crimean war. That's were people first heard stories of what soldiers and sailors endured(the charge of the light brigade) and the introduction of Victoria cross for valour in the face of the enemy.
"No ex-servicemen need apply" translates to "I deserve a bayonet to the balls"
Put the bayonet on a shotgun that would be better
@@catlover-db1rj and hold down the trigger and grab the pump and push it back and fourth so the the shotgun is slamfire
@@catlover-db1rj stab, then shoot
@@catlover-db1rj bayonet on a flamethrower for good measure
Sadly enough I’ve seen those exact words in job applications in the U.K. today.
I know a person who was hit by an IED in Afghanistan, though he did get a pension nobody bothered to give him support which ended up in him owing about over 15k in taxes. The government collector, said to him “you owe it to your country to pay taxes” (the issue he had was with short term memory so he wouldn’t know what was needed to do. That was the moment my last piece of respect for my government was lost.
He shouldnt have fought an overseas war for oil, provided by the military industrial complex on taxpayer dollars, enriching bankers.
@@morrisl7 it’s ppl like you, that is the reason for both Canada and America there’s so many homeless veterans, jobless and all, u have 0 respect or acknowledgement in the fact he had no choice he fought for his country and had 0 choice i in where he went, was subsequently injured and when the time came for even ppl to support him ppl like u said well it’s not my problem, that is greed leaving it for someone else, if it was your family member you’d beg but won’t give help that is the way of the universe what goes around comes around and for poor ppl that deserve the best u need at the very least to respect them.... because it’s you at the end of the day that’ll wind up begging for those ppl
@@morrisl7 your just like the government collector in the comment
@@clorygaming something is I've never been Frontline combat most because I've only been on this earth for 9 years but through video games have kind of gutters and blues of what it was like when I play Battlefield 1 my expectations when I first played to survive and push through and Capture the Flag with my team is but what I got was completely and rated artillery from enemy was firing a test thanks for there bullet raining everywhere debris was falling down and then things got intent so the I could hear the soldiers screaming I could hear the squad Lita blowing his whistle to get us to the sector it was Madness and the apocalypse DLC was even worse I was playing or with no had and and and no brightness so it was terrifying synfire round gas being thrown artillery mortars everywhere no thank support no plain support nothing just bear with a bolt action rifles or SMG light machine guns just pushing through dysentery scared with the most because it seems overpowered morning as down and we're trying to take the objective I know it sounds over exaggerating but that's what I felt like I expected something else just us pushing to the sector like Call of Duty holding it but no I got something totally different
@@morrisl7 yeah, America invaded Afghanistan in 2001 because of oil. It definitely wasn't anything else
"Good luck, everyone."~Captain Blackadder before going over the top.
One of the best tv moments
"I'm scared, sir"
@@somerandomdude23764 And one of the saddest
@@MrOist Couldn't agree more
It's a cunning plan, actually.
“We were promised homes fit for heroes, they gave us heroes fit for homes” - ‘Grandad’ Trotter, Only Fools and Horses
“War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it.” Erasmus 1400s
That's what I thought of it's such a poignant scene. One of the reasons I love fools and horses is because of the serious scenes followed by humour
@@KandiKlover Yeah man. Exactly.
Like we usually get so appealed with video games having a war themed background, all because of the intense excitement due to the sounds and being able to use a diverse array of weapons and vehicles which will not usually occur for ordinary people.
But in reality though, if you ever encounter a bloody conflict just beside your house, you'll regret such experience. It's a visual nightmare.
It takes balls of steel to witness and even face your enemy who, just like your side, has so many things which are deadly enough to decimate a large amount of people.
As a result, for example I'm telling, we shouldn't judge our soldiers immediately for their failings in defending our country. We shouldn't be such people who don't even had a glimpse about the brutal reality of a war.
That was one of the deepest moments in the whole show.
Feminists fought only for themselves, leaving men to and preventing men from fighting for their own rights, while calling that ‘their version of’ "equality”. Feminists also are the ones benefiting from the safety of not getting conscripted while blaming men for all the destruction of war.
All the same time, because men fought not for themselves when they had the weapons, they continued to be seen as dispensables. Those thinking for themselves are labeled as diserters and were shot. This massive inbalance of rights need to be addressed. Men should not have to live in fear of conscription, and should not have to live in a lower caste system becoming a dispensable in a nation they spend blood building.
Soldier: **survives through WW1**
Goverment: you weren't supposed to do that
Sad but tru
Dark but this is exactly what happens
They were meant to die on a battlefield somewhere... thats the worst part
Damn! Too funny!
Your duty has always been to die, soldier!
"Sgt kelly" from Doom
Lesson: Don't misstreat war veterans! Especially when they are great at speaking in public...
That'll happen when you have a soldier who was a rejected from an art school and deeply resentful.
Hitler reference :(
@@LTarts23 So?
@@LTarts23 No, bet it's Churchill
@@leehongjin6884 or just generally when they are a washout from society. 😂😂😂
"My brother George was at
Passchendale. Nigh on half a
million Allied troops died
there, all for five miles of
mud! I was at King’s Cross
station when his regiment came
home after the armistice. Most
of them was carried off the
train. I saw men with limbs
missing, blind men - men who
couldn’t breathe properly ‘cos
their lungs had been shot to
bits by mustard gas! While the
nation celebrated they was
hidden away in big grey
buildings, far from the public
gaze. I mean, courage like that
could put you right off your
victory dinner couldn’t it?
They promised us homes fit for
heroes, they give us heroes fit
for homes!"
- Grandad, Only fools and horses
Bravo!!
That speech went through my mind when I saw this video
They don't make shows like that anymore unfortunately
Kraut bastards
@James Estelle Grandad's line from Only fools and horses Season 1, episode 6 "The russians are coming"
@@WolfingtonStanley They don't have writers like that anymore.
Imagine losing a leg from a war to protect your country, only to be ignored by the public and seen as a beggar
That happens in USA
Well, a lot of them WERE beggars.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me true true, but the public treated them like a homeless beggar
@@octaviakustiawan7471 yea but I think he means WERE
@@octaviakustiawan7471 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe just treating beggars in general better would have helped.
"War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing eachother" ---Nico bellic,2008
who says you can’t learn anything from video games
@@panzalinopanzultimate4796 my mom probably
Hey Nico wanna go bowling?
@@beeaggressive160 sorry Roman I'm middle of a bank heist
@@vandansonkar7819 Hey Niko! Wanna go play darts?
Imagine serving in one of the most brutal wars in human history at 18 years, losing lims and be scarred for life then going back home just to be treated like this
Well after ww1 the economy of the uk etc easnt doing well having had to buy lota of sruff from the us who acrually increased their prices for all countries
@@afriendlycadian9857 Thats not an excuse for their treatment
@@raypod5964 its literally an excuse just because you dont like it doesnt mean its not an excuse i agree its a terrible excuse but the government will use any excuse to save money sadly
Not everyone saw combat, and there weren't enough jobs for everyone coming back home at once unless you were an officer and had connections
@@meero3110 justify “no ex-servicemen” signs
"I'm cast aside now that I've played my part
I lie in the street, I beg not to starve
I'm crippled, disfigured, you just look away
The war you forgot, the price I have paid"
Who’s that from ?
@@oldworldblu3s305 Warbringer - Shellfire from Woe to the Vanquished album
@@andrewkomlyev4877 thanks
I can just feel one of them thinking “So this is what I fought for?”
should have joined the germans, atleast they paid their soldier's when they didn't go bankrupt
Whenever you join a military, you need to always understand what you’re fighting for. In the end, it’s always for the politicians and rich people anyways.
@@krissianvictir1291 sometime people doesnt have the right due to the stupid conscription scheme. mister. so get off ur high horse and into the trench
@@krissianvictir1291 Conscription?
" The fucking government lie to us"
*"A great nation, is a nation that respects and honours the services of it's heroes"*
- Ir Soekarno, the First Presiden of Republic of Indonesia.
So none of them.
@@kennethchou4384 yeah sadly
@Limau Purut Well i think we can agree first and second leader of a country is not that good
@Labiche Indonesia their veterans properly like really good
My dad was a spetsnaz sniper during the Afghan war, after he came back he was stunned at how nobody cared about how much he did, it effected him so much he immigrated to America and had me and my brother, my brother wanted to join the army a few years ago but my dad begged him and broke down about how the governments treat their soldiers, it was the first time we ever saw our dad cry
He ever talk about the war?
@tiernanwearen6624 rarely and only when drunk, he has funny stories of course since my uncle served with him and my uncle is hilarious, but the stories your probably looking for I've only heard a handful. He regrets not killing his own officers more than anything from what he's said, lots of corruption and no punishment for ranking men. My uncle has a lot more stories but he saw less action than my dad did
@crispycrimson6448 can you please explain how your dad an ex spetsnaz Soviet sniper Managed to immigrate to the United States ??My Dream is to Immigrate to the US and live and work there I'm tired of living in Algeria, I tried the Green Card lottery twice but haven't got lucky still I wish you a good night/Day it depends on when you read this
@cheriefsadeksadek2108 immigranted to Canada, snuck into the US and then broke about a dozen laws to fake an identity until he was able to study up and take the test to get a green card. My mom went back home to Ireland and easily immigrated using a work visa then got her card by marrying my dad.
Old man:
"Fight for your country coward!"
Soldier:
"Yes sir!"
*After War*
Soldier:
"Please help. I sacrificed everything for our country."
Old man:
"You're pathetic! Man up!"
I know right
Depends on the person. Some veterans really need help. And some of them are just self pitying.
So if the old men are really wise and knowledgeable, they are right. Otherwise they are stupid.
But its quite sad this happens...
A soldier, bringing a saw: you want me to cut your leg or your arm just like me?
this is sad but its true some veterans need help and the old men laugh at them
Patton, Is that you?
This brought a tear to my eye. As a disabled veteran thank you for all you do on this channel with the level of respect you show.
man im not a vet nor a soldier but I really cried....Its just a harsh reality.......
Thank you for your service sir. I wish i could invite you over dinner just to show how grateful I am.
Thank you for everything you done
Real veteran? K
The world salutes you for your service
My great grandfather lost an eye to shrapnel and was exposed to mustard gas at the somme.
He recieved no compensation apart from his medals.
He set up a flower shop after coming home from the war, and kept the business going until his death in 1963.
Everyone who grew up around him said he was one of the nicest people you could ever meet.
Rest In Peace Charlie Aston.
As a french man once said:”you are lions led by donkeys.” The leaders truly didn’t know the trauma of these soldiers
"The elder starts wars, but it is the youth who fight for them."
-Herbert Hoover
Edit: Herbert Hoover
Literaly
If one of the most intelligent man say that, you know how messed up the world is
And the worst part is it's not just him who says how messed up the world is.
*King Leonidas would like to know your location*
He even regretted saying the possibility of an atomic bomb, because of how humans will abuse it overtime
This brought tears to my eyes, no shame in saying that.
Agreed.
Shame on their government even though it was a long time ago.
@@yano1934 Even today an SAS veteran is homeless from the famous iran embassy raid
I feel a measure of shame in NOT crying.
@@porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184 their government and their country doesn't deserve them.
“Thinking about Vietnam once in a while, in a crazy kind of way, I wish that just for a while, I could be there. And then be transported back. Maybe just to be there so I’d wish I was back here again.” Anonymous U.S. Serviceman
*Most important tip of all:* Never reject a WW1 Veteran from Art school
Nice
Ha
lol XD
ITS true when they was strees of the war they would draw or make somting that make him calm cause rejecting the vet Will make him sad or strees but i don't think there alot of ww1 vet the probly 100+ or 90+
Yes if you do that he will turn insane and become dictator of the country then start a new world war
His name: Adolf Hitler
Could you imagine the absolute brass pair this government would have to have when WW2 comes around and they tell their countrymen "Could you do it again?"
😂😂
First of all the problem is you phrased that question as if asking for a request, it wasn't a request nor did they asked.
Second of all war is for the youth, not the old. 20 years is enough time to get a new generation thrown in.
In the military 30 is old and 40 is elderly, anything after that is a jerryatric.
You again
@@Marinealver Regardless, the British had shown that they care little for the survivors of the wars that the Government started. Why would you willingly sign up to fight the second World War when you've grown up seeing how veterans of the first were treated upon their return from the trenches?
@@Marinealver allot of ww1 vets fought in ww2
Same thing in Germany, with the Freikorps and all.
People gave up four years of their lives and even parts of their body and minds, and got nothing in return.
But the Freikorps took it into a whole new level.
@@_____Z_____ how about no.
@@_____Z_____ bihiooooo
@@_____Z_____ *Biden
RH RAFID NFAC how about no you degenerate
@@_____Z_____ Biden proudly put in a law which gave the police the power they have today, and hes a a pretty strong advocate for continuing foreign US intervention. Hes just trump but less isolationist.
It's "Tommy this" and "Tommy that", and "chuck him out, the brute"
But it's "savior of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot
- Rudyard Kipling
Rudyard Kipling lost his son in the war.
"I want what they want. And every other guy who came over here and spilled his guts and gave everything he had wants. For our country to love us as much as we love it. That's what I want." -- Rambo.
Any British civilians who were blind to their servicemen’s pleas for help got a rude awakening 20 years later. They had little to no clue of a fraction of what horrors they truly faced, but that all changed when the Nazis began bombing their cities.
The treatment of soldiers here reminds me a lot of how American veterans were treated after Vietnam
Growing up in the 1970's, I often overheard Vietnam veterans say they identified (and felt like they had more in common) with their grandfathers who had fought in WWI as opposed to their fathers who had fought in WWII.
People didn't like the Vietnam war come the end so it would make some sorta sense they wouldn't be pleased with them who fought in it
Most of them were just drafted and didn't know what they were fighting for. They endured the horrors of it. Only to just be spat and cursed at when returning home.
Vietnam was nothing like WW1-2. America was being a power hungry aggressor attempting to crush a small nation.
@@sorincaladera936 geez don't open a book or anything
When you go home, tell them of us and say
For your tomorrow, we gave our today. Lest we forget.
Lest we forget
Lest we forget
Lest we forget.
Lest we forget
Lest we forget
Like it said in Battlefield 1
“They thought it would be our great adventure, let me tell you. It was no adventure.”
My great great Grandfather joined up when he was 19 yrs old. He was with the 42nd East Lancs in Gallipoli. His right foot was completely severed during the battle, the result of a Turkish grenade. He survived and was discharged from the army. Back home in England he wore his silver war badge to show others he was honourably discharged, not a coward for being sent home. My Father told me despite this, there was still resentment from those back home where he lived who had lost someone. Some of these were people he had known all his life.
Imagine just surviving a war where you seen death around you and barely surviving and going home to be rejected, that would be extremely depressing...
Unfortunately, it still happens.
Life Sucks...
LIVE WITH IT!
@@Marinealver a bit harsh don’t cha think.
Yeah :/
@@Marinealver let’s see how you go fighting in a war champ
Broke my heart watching this... Not hard to imagine how veterans from poorer country even suffered more like Romania, Russia, Turkey
Actually in turkey veterans respected and honoured at least
@@mehmetkesci1041 how about other countries ?
Imagine the veterans of the of the Russian white army after they lost
It did happen in Indonesia aswell. My grandpa who is a marine soldier, had better life than most of ww2 soldier veterans. He served during Timor Insurgencies and Papua. I don't know if the government gave them veterans some money, but I hope they care too to the WWII veterans and not just post-WWII veteran soldiers.
Also, 10 November is the Day of The Heroes in my country, as that day is to remember all soldiers that fought and died during the war. During school, it is something that made me cry, deep down in my heart, cause during WWII, they fought with only sharped bamboo and stolen weapons from enemy soldiers
Edit: some WWII veterans are supported by their children/grandchildren/great grandchildren, but I don't know much about the others
@@weetme1613 kan veteran kemerdekaan masih diurusin sama anak anak nya
After watching these documentaries of soldiers both in WWI and WWII struggling to get back to civilization, it made me realize this is most likely what my grandfather went through after he fought in the Korean War.
It actually blows my mind that people would treat their veterans so horribly, and everyone thought it was ok
One of the most overly propagandized wars in history, all fought on false pretenses and glory, truly one of the most bittersweet ironies recorded in history.
@Maintenance Renegade We've been fighting wars in the mid-East because of some abomination of a treaty over a 100yrs ago!!!! This is why the U.S joining The Great War was a mistake.
@Maintenance Renegade Well, the sinking of the British passenger ship the Lusitania (1915) and the deaths of 189 Americans on the ship, is what drove the American people to favor the allies. However, the final tipping point was the Zimmerman note sent to Mexico from Germany (1917) asking if Mexico would join the Central Powers and invade the U.S, in of which Mexico declined. But yeah the Lusitania was technically a justified military target. Even with all this, the U.S shouldn't have joined the War because their wasn't anything to gain, and all we got was a Great Depression because France and Great Britain couldn't pay their debts in the late 1920's; to the U.S, which they were getting their debt payments from Germany, also contributing to the crash of the U.S stock market and the banks going into debt because of their heavy investments and heavy reliance on the stock market.
Well a country which we gave a garantee too was being tresspassed by germany and civilians were being killed i would say that was a good reason/ another letting germany and austria become the largest powers would of also been terrible
@@afriendlycadian9857 Not really, I don't hear you or anyone accusing the British Empire and the French Empire for killing civilians when when they were busy colonizing other parts of the world. Tbh France, Great Britain, and Russia were much more of a threat to world domination than the German and Austria-Hungarian Empires which didn't have any colonies and didn't have any plans for world domination, only domination in Europe, unlike the French and the British Empires which were still actively trying to control as much of the world as possible.
@Maintenance Renegade How is honoring a guarantee of independence for a neutral state a flimsy excuse to enter a war?
"Don't expect the loyalty to be returned because it won't be." --- Captian Robert Laurance, Royal Scots Guards MC
You captured the 1000 yard stare perfectly
breaks your heart. Even today nothing has truly change either
My grandfather used to live in a village in the mountain when he was a child. It was common to see beggars, passing through their village, such as wounded veterans. It was shortly after WW2. He remembers one man with both missing legs riding a donkey.
@Eric Konschuh the man lost legs
@Eric Konschuh unless its a joke that i missed from you
@Eric Konschuh Stop joking around. If you are not serious enough to have a respect to these war heroes, go to another comment section.
I respect and admire your grandfather’s experience but it’s sad that he’s not the only one who’d see veterans on the streets, which is downing
@@user-lj8bw6fm9d thank you 🙏🙏🙏
My dad's a veteran, and he always said "if you want to see change in your government, pay the elected officials / MP the wages of a Military recruit."
They couldn't handle it, and they would scoff at the very idea. Same goes for our politicians in America, if you forced them and their families to get medical care at the VA, the VA would have a chance at getting fixed, along with the rest of the health care industry here.
Robert Harper a lot more vets are getting elected into office these days
@@kennypowers2341, hopefully that will change some things, but I won't hold my breath. Sadly, there are plenty of solutions for the problems veteran's face, but the political will isn't there to do any of them. Probably because it gives politicians something to campaign on promising to fix, and they'll blame the other side as to why they get nothing done.
God bless these men for all they endured!
Veterans are never treated right. They have seen and experienced horrors that we could never imagine, and we hardly think of them. This comment goes out to every veteran, alive or dead, from any time in history, from any country ever. I hope they find respect and peace.
There once was an old saying but I do not remember who said it but goes, “Dying is easy, living is harder.”
Remember me to what washington said in hamilton the musical. Dying is easy young men, living is harder.
Rurouni Kenshin?
Death has got to be easy because life is hard
Outlaw Josey Wales?
"Death is light as a feather, duty as heavy as a mountain." That one? It's what Japanese soldiers in the 19th and 20th century were told to boost morale.
As a Royal naval serviceman, it’s horrifying to know that at such a time vulnerable veterans were essentially left to fend for themselves after the Great War
The way sailors of the Royal Navy were treated after fending off the Spanish Armada was even worse. Deliberately left out at sea with no rations, so the government wouldn't have to pay them once they came ashore.
Its sad that the british goverment gives barely anything to veterans, yet give all kinds of things to immagrants who did nothing.
U.S. Vietnam Veterans
@@bigbrowntau I wish to know what you meant? I’m pretty sure some of those immigrants are in the military and working jobs
The worst thing is, during the First World War Churchill cleared out Dartmouth and sent them to war. They knew they were sending children to die
Think the worst part about coming home, for me at least, is how much friends and family didn't even care that I went overseas, or that I came back. Even though nothing extraordinary happened over there, nothing was the same. I was struggling with trying to readapt to normal life, after months of being away. Gf was acting strange around me, which made everything worse, then left few months later.
Governments mistreating the men they use up in wars is one of the oldest, most repetitive stories ever told.
My great grandfather survived the First World War and served in the British Home Guard in World War 2.
He was a true hero. May he rest in peace, for he was a brave and honorable man.
Damn, your great grandfather was One thought nut to crack. After everything shown in this video happened to him, he still did It all over again. RIP
@Jake Curtis is he fought in gallipoli
Or witch trench in ww1 *RESPECT*
Wow!!
you reminded me of dad's army.
My grandpa who fought in the Vietnam war experience a very similar thing
the dejection of the Vietnam war veterans
thank you so much for making this, it did make me cry. I have five generations of my family been in the Armed Forces with two brothers who are ex army, and I do the poppy Appeal every year for the past 12 years and it has been a rough year this year for armed forces charities. Our armed forces have done so much for us and yet so many need our help. thank you again.
Im just disgusted in the people back home, and the government.
@@securityguard8641 2nd German Reich*
@Felix Stotts yeah i cant believe how entitled the world feels about american help
What about their colonies who made up most of their army?
@Felix Stottsumm... Americans didn't even close to reach 1 million casualties during the first war, but the part about you saying how the first world War was just pointless and meaningless to the American people unlike the second war is true
@@kyronmedina7623 thanks for the correction, forgot about that.
“The best move in war, is not to play”
Sun Tzu said that?
@@TheIndogamer and he knows a little more about war than you do pal because he invented it. And he perfected till no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
War is overrated!
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One day in NY, i saw a bunch of people making protest saying that there should be a WW1 memorials across the USA
I just so glad people still care about these men that risked their lives. Even if they are all dead by now ❤🇺🇸
I’m reminded of a line from Motörhead’s “when the eagle screams”:
“We were given medals
But now they call us devils
And now we can’t decide between the two”
Cheered upon by the people
Lived in the horrors of the battlefield
Returned home with an emotionless/broken body
And the people who cheered, forgot about them
In Serbia we have a story :"the people will gild it all" /sve će to narod pozlatiti .It tells a story of man comming from war and his father trying to comfort him .
Sounds touching.
I want to read the entire story? Is there a way?
@@ivantan42 hm try on Reddit r/serbia they might know if there is translated version in pdf.I searched on web and only found it in serbish
My great great grandad was in ww1 he was 18, the Whistle was blown to go over the top and shrapnel sliced his stomach clean open and his guts had to be scraped off of the ground and put back inside him.
He made a miraculous recovery and was sent back home for the rest of the war, he was 16 when he went.
I found out about this as my grandad lost both of his legs in ww2 i asked him how it happened, he was a shy man and wouldnt say much, but as a child war is curious and seems exciting i would often say things like "I cant wait to join the army" - " i wanna shoot some baddies"
The point is he told me these things to discourage and take away the pretend glory and excitment of war in a child. R.I.P grandad's. And may everyone who has had loved ones and family fight may they R.I.P or continue a Healthy Life.
Yeah lol. As a child, war seems fun until you grow older.
It was a very similar situation after WW2 in England as well. The country was bankrupt from 6 years of fighting. My grandfather told the issuing officer on demobilisation that they could stick their medals as they would not feed his family, So sad after he served in Norway, Burma and back in the UK as part of Combined Operations.
I'm an old British army veteran . I just got through life the best I could. Living alone and on borrowed time now. But, I have no regrets. It was my choice to serve. I don't think of myself as a hero or even brave. Just did what I thought was right. I hope my service helped to keep peace and protect the innocent.
Bye
Live in peace with each other.
Thanks for your service man, your work will not be forgotten.
Ur service protected the ppl who couldn't fight and had. the whole world is proud of Y'all
Thank you for service, I don't mean this in a spoiled way, but you've given more than I've ever had.
@@meero3110 what do you mean what war?
@@meero3110 ?
Most of the german veterans were also home and jobless after the war.
One of the big problems
He covers that at the end a bit. German veterans tended to be quite a bit angrier than the British and Frenchmen though. American veterans damn near coup'd the government when it refused to help initially.
@@alexporter7379 what exactly do you mean with 'tended to be angrier'?
@@fabovondestory they had all the same issues as British veterans, but with the added side effects of a crippled economy, and the shame of loss.
@@fabovondestory Oh I don't know, maybe they were so angry, a certain angry mustached man by the name of "Adolf Hitler" overthrew the government and started another world war.
Crazy right?
@@dumpsterfire4269 Hitler hasn't even ruled that time yet...
when my great grandfather came back to germany from ww1, he was spat on, and was shamed by the towns people. but when ww2 ended, he was well respected
This makes me think of how my grandfather would say how horrible it was to be making the bombs for Oak Ridge . I always asked him if there were secrets or anything he regretted when I was younger . And he always said that the government will eventually reveal all the disgusting secrets we hid from the public. And that if he ever told us anything we’d about what happened there while he worked on the bombs we’d be in danger. I truly felt sorry for that man he said he had no regrets because he fought for his country that was his duty and for him to live with the horror of making killing machine messed with him . I honor that man he sacrificed not only his life but his mind and heart for his country.
My grandfather fought in WW2 in the romanian army,he survived and the communists took his land and his agricultural machines,after that he was commited in a mental hospital
La mine străbunicii au luptat in Al Doilea Război Mondial și au supraviețuit comunismul dar și dictatura lui Zelea-Codreanu de dinaintea razboiului. Au murit cand aveam eu 2 ani.
😞😞
I know the feeling neighbor. Im from Bulgaria.. My great great grandfather served in WW1 with the cavalry. He came home different according to great grandmother. He finally left for the United States to work for railroad company in midwest. He came with a lot of money and build a factory. It was his until January 1945. Soviets took everything from him. He resisted and was threatened that his whole family will be sent in Siberia if he continues.
Communist destroyed europe, my family have also agrocultural machines stolen by communists.
I'm sorry for your grandfather.
Aside from the mental hospital that was quite common occurence in the eastern block Europe.
I really can't comprehend how can someone glorify these communist bastards.
WWI veterans after they returned to their countries:”I expect us to get respected.”
Government:”We expected you to die in those trenches.”
How many aristocrats from both sides died?
@@Joshua_N-A red baron is only one i can name
@@TheJarric And he's remembered as a Legend to this day
@@Joshua_N-A I can only speek about the German side.
But a lot of German aristocrats died in ww1,
because many of them were officers in the army.
Not only the generals but also Lieutenants who lead the charges to inspire the troops.
Many German aristrocratic ww2 generals fought at the front in ww1 when they did not have such a high rank.
Well known examples are Erich von Manstein and Günther von Kluge, who both got seriously injured in combat action.
I think that aristrocrats had a lot of pressure to participate in the war and earn medals, because they were expected
to do so by their families.
@@gerritgrauwinkel8665 the entire community probably would expect them to perform duties just like their forefathers before.
British WW1 veterans: I need a job
Winston Churchill: so there's these lads in Ireland who want independence...
Ah yes, the Black & Tans, the Auxiliaries, the Cairo Gang... Am I missing someone?
Thank you ALL who serve, and who have served 🙏 God bless you.
My dad fought in Iraq in the Persian Gulf War and every year we visit the memorials in Washington DC. He frequently donates to veterans organizations and he always encourages the rest of our family to do the same
you should of lied about a different war informed ppl wont support the iraq war
Could care less about the cannon fodder who died in Iraq they died for nothing
@@tylerdunn9683 imagine disrespecting the dead
This isn't about america this is ww1
@@tylerdunn9683 trust me man I was an edgy 14 yr old once too ur gonna remember typing these and visibly cringe some day down the line 😂
“When we needed them the most they were there, when they needed us the most we were nowhere to be seen”
This is why I say "Thank you for your service" every time I see an Ex-service man
My Grandfather told me years ago I had relatives in England who sheltered a WWI veteran they knew because he couldn't get a job who was always saying "The boys in the Second World War have no idea what we went through!" and the same with my Mothers Grandparents they gave WWI Australian vets jobs on their farm the blokes had lingering PTSD from the war!
Many in my family always maintained the WWI was psychologically and physically worse than WWII but I maintain that all War Veterans deserve our respect and thanks!
This only shows how cruel our society and state of mind is. We cannot appreciate what these men have been trough, what sacrifices they made and how they were treated. At the end, as John Bairon wrote in his "Don Juan" the generals and commanders are the great victors with big pensions and praises but at the same time nobody even thinks of who are the actual heroes of this conflict. Every war leads only to death and destruction. It is a terrible thing no matter what anyone says. There aren't any winners nor heroes in destroying families and homes. May the brave men who gave/risked their lives for the fatherland rest in peace... They were just a tool for achieving somebody else's ideals and interests.
for the first time in almost ever I respect a jojo pfp and agree with them
They fought to protect and save their country yet they're treated so poorly. Shame
Says you. You don't allow your own citizens to leave
Kim Jong Un just said that.
😂😂
@@DuggzValentine he still has a point tho
@@DuggzValentine yes but they still “appreciate” their soldiers
My grandad was in the trenches in WW1 and I hardly know anything about his life in the war. Trench warfare seemed to be absolutely horrifying. I know he survived with shrapnel in his stomach which couldn’t be removed and the they used to swallow their own cigarette smoke as they were so hungry 😢
My great grandad lost his hand to German artillery fire, he was a gunner in the Royal field artillery. He never talked of the war, In fact no one really knows where his medals and uniform is.
Being in the army and having made lots of friends in the army, this is quite touching to me, it’s hard to imagine that back then people were heartless, they look down on soldiers for getting injured and being sent home, but being a soldier is VERY hard, I bet about 99% of people wouldn’t even make it through initiation.
Look into the Bonus Army, when American veterans of WW1 had to march on Washington to get what was promised. It's sad that America has had such a terrible track record with taking care of our veterans, but hey, we can get a free appetizer on Veteran's Day. (Sarcasm)
The same thing happened decades later with vietnam,korea,ww2, desert storm etc.
@Matt allen, Why are you in a job you hate?
Most people dont always have the luxury of choosing jobs
@@bogeds9871, most people have a choice of the career they get into, too many people don't really research what those jobs entail. As well as being unwilling to make the changes to go to another job.
"Young men don't die for their country, they die for the whims of the old men"
My disillusioned great grandfather believed that when he was in service back in ww2 and in the korean war.
Nah. The civil war, the second world war and the korean war were different from the wars that followed. We fought those because of principle and to help people who genuinely wanted our help, the vietnam war failed because our motivation there was mostly about the fear of the spread of communism than there being a people who really wanted our help. If youre not convinced then try to look for the thank you commerial south korea aired for veterans a few days ago, its quite a tear jerker.
@@lespectator4962 You do know that the Korean war and the Vietnam war were fought for the exact same reason right, to stop the spread of communism. And the Korean people didn't really care about who won the war. both north and south Korea were incredibly authoritarian both sides committing frequent purges of political opponents and human rights violations. in fact before the collapse of the soviet union, north Korea had a better standard of living than south Korea due to soviet loans. The south only began to grow and democratize during the 80s that's also the start of the south Korean peoples appreciation of the sacrifices of the us and rok army but before the 80s they couldn't care less. And the reason America lost the Vietnam war was that us generals planned combat operations as if if they were conventional wars rather than insurgency's not to mention that every time the Viet Cong were beaten they would just flee to Cambodia or north Vietnam to rebuild.
@@darrelkh8774There was still more will among the korean people to resist communism that there was among the vietnamese. The fact that Seoul fell and they got pushed all the way back to the Pusan perimeter and still bitterly fought on states that, they even went as far as executing sympathizers on their own. When Saigon fell south vietnam just collapsed entirely. The south vietnamese government didnt even take measures to continue the struggle in spite such a forseeable event because they were so dependent on america to do everything that their president was caught in his office like he had no clue by NVA troops like it was just another day at work that he still thought he was still in a position to negotiate by stating that "he was ready to hand over power". He was so oblivious to it all.
The main reason the west lost the vietnam war was because they never had any intention of invading the north, they even restricted bombing it for a time. The communists used this as leverage and won through sheer perseverance, not military might. The NVA could never face the US in open battle, but south vietnam simply didnt do much with the breathing room the US gave it. Not in any historical record would you find any effort of south vietnam to claim the whole country when both north and south korea state that intention to this day.
@@lespectator4962 The Pusan perimeter managed to hold due to un reinforcements but holding Pusan didn't drive back the north the Inchon landing's did, and during the battle for the Pusan perimeter the south suffered more than twice the amount of casualties than the un troops. And just like the arvn the rok army was heavily dependent on the us for practically everything and when north Vietnam invaded
the south 1975 the arvn put up a better fight
than south Korea did in 1950 but unfortunately for the south Vietnamese their was no un to save them and since all of their equipment came from the us and since the new us presidential administration cut of all aid it was only a matter of time before they fell. and if your wondering why the arvn didn't put up a fight in their version of the Pusan perimeter, well they did that was the fall of Saigon and the only un troops in Saigon were ones who were evacuating their respective citizens, They weren't their to save their republic. If you look on a map Saigon is located at the far south of Vietnam. The president of south Vietnam wasn't oblivious to the nva he just knew it was impossible to win if they had no outside help. The only reason south Korea still exists today was un intervention not the peoples "determination against communism."
(and btw plz don't accuse me of being a "commie"
for I am anything but as i believe in the free market.)
@@darrelkh8774 @Chargingpath387 The simple fact is, south vietnam enjoyed more benefits and longer periods of help than south korea did, but didnt make anything out of it. Stating that the UN helped south korea instead of the US alone isn't very relevant as the US contributed majority if not almost all of the aid they got.
The Pusan perimeter held its own and did push back the communists, the landings at Inchon only provided a second front to divert north korean efforts to allow Pusan to break out. The only reinforcements south korea received to hold Pusan initially was task force smith, which wasnt very substantial. They had to hold out and fight bitterly to keep Pusan to buy time for the UN to send the real help. But the fact that the ROK held out long enough to still be able to be reinforced in spite their massive initial losses is a testament to the difference of their resolve compared to south vietnam, which fell apart as soon as they started to lose ground.
South vietnam didnt even have to face the direct military intervention from the nations that sponsor north vietnam like the koreans did, just the NVA and communists from their own land. South Korea and the UN had to fight off both North Korea AND China, so what was their excuse? They couldn't beat north vietnam even with the help of the strongest super power in the world and the full commitment of its military, even though the only help other communists gave north vietnam were just in the form equipment, and never direct military intervention? Its doubtful south vietnam lost because of mere guerilla tactics.
In some countries poor treatment of veterans continue today. The Canadian government is still in courts contesting long term medical and physiological treatment along with basic pensions for many of it's disabled veterans.
Strange how one can shed so many tears whilst watching an animation.
“In Flanders field the poppy grow.”
The poem that i hear everytime i think about ww1
Some of the younger boys to enlist we’re actually 12. Some were actually executed for “desertion”
Bruh that’s kinda sad
The youngest was 8 from serbia
Well people still had the idea of running from battle or from the army as desertion and deriliction of duty and as it had been for thousands of years they would be executed however most were actually pardoned in ww1
@@archravenineteenseventeen wasn’t he more so “adopted” by the army that found him?
war truly does "Hurt everyone but the people who declare it." As well as "where the young and naïve are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other."
It is because of events like this that people from every nation need to ensure that their veterans are well taken care of, they put their own freedoms on the line for the nation they call home. Watching this video and reading some truly moving comments brings great sorrow and motivation to care for my nation's veterans.
Please, I ask that everyone reading this, take care of your veterans whether they be family or strangers, they've earned it
God bless all those who've served
My great grand uncle served in ww1 in the American army. He got gased and his lungs were permanently damaged.
F. Im sorry for your loss
I don't know if I had any relatives that were around during that time that suffered injuries or other body damage
Motto of the US Veterans Administration:
Giving Service Members a second chance to die for their country.
I dread going to my yearly physical. I hate the VA with a passion.
@@johnarnold7984 i hate going to that physical too, especially when I have to get a blood test or vaccine.
The VA; making the war the second worst experience in your life.
If you didn’t die for your country, the VA will make damn sure you wish you had
Cringe
My great great uncle fought and died in WW1. He was a private in the British army serving in Flanders, Belgium. He got wounded in the Battle of Passchendaele in 1917 and was sent to a frontline hospital tent for recovery. However, a rogue artillery shell hit the tent, killing everyone inside including my great great uncle. Lest we forget the sacrifices made
It’s sad how this is kind of happening today
The French Side of my family was heavily impacted by the wars. WW1 my great great grandfather fought at Verdun and Chemain de Dames, forgot to strap a bayonet to his rifle and was saved by a friend in hand to hand combat. Went over the top and was one of the only 2 remaining soldiers from his battalion. Came home and lived in poverty with little support on a small farm. My great grandparents in WW2 had it worse. 1 was killed, idk my grandad never told me how, but because of that my grandad ended up growing poor with an abusive stepdad. The other was captured early on in the war and sent to work on a farm until the Germans demanded that he work in a munitions factory, he refused and subsequently ended up in a labour camp. In 1944 he was returned home but looked like a skeleton, the only thing he ever told my mum about the war was that he "could see the fear in the Germans eyes".
Citizens during war: *Plz don't go!*
Citizens after the war: *Why are u here?*
Soldiers: Just to suffer
@BoS Sentinel that's ironic on so many levels
@BoS Sentinel I was actually talking about the BoS pfp, because 1950s ya know? I don't care if your a communist or socialist or whatever, as long as your happy
@BoS Sentinel sir if military not there you would not be here and communism and military are not related and sometimes militaries need to exist us is capitalist why does it have a military i know so the country don't break apart and to make sure there is no threat for the countries survival
@Comrade Karim The communist system sucks lmao
Thank you for highlighting this People forget these heroes.
Sad thing is, this still happens today in our country. (UK)
Ohhhh shot really
The country that puts Foreigners First, thus spitting on our ancestors and what they fought to preserve.
It's unfortunate. But at least UK veterans have a good sense of maintaining proper order. in the US disgruntled Civil War Veteran Confederate Soldiers formed the KKK. Disgruntled US WWII veterans formed the Hell's Angels.
Ah, I see white nationalism is prevalent in your country as well.
@@joshuaclark1719 Its a problem in the majority of the first world.