Gerry Brownlee Ruling: Disrespectful Maori MPs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- New Zealand 29 May 2024:
Te Pāti Māori rarely show any respect in parliament, especially Rawiri Waititi, the pretend European Maori.
Listen to the speaker’s ruling regarding yesterday’s disgraceful behaviour by Rawiri Waititi and Debbie Anne Ngarewa-Packer, another pretend European Maori.
Parliament is not a marae!
Thank you Gerry Brownlee,
WhangareiTim
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Winston said it best, All Hui no Doey. Wasting time and tax money instead of addressing the real problems.
The REAL problem is this country is being run from the top down instead of from the bottom up. The result is the bottom are being left behind. But hey, lets worry about "house rules"
They want respect but show none on a daily basis.
Just like some pakeha mate. Want respect but won’t give it
they in denial, they cannibals #LONGPIG watch out they chuck you in hangi
You see Maori are sovereign and the government is illegitimate to impose their law on tangata Whenua.
@@ZmanTace 😄
@@ZmanTace
All are sovereign or all are slaves.
Does sovereignty include slavery and canabalism?
Maori are colonising migrants from Asia.
All people are of the land, are they not?
Hipkins totally missing the point as usual.
Memo to Hipkins- The presiding speaker granted permission ONLY for a Maori song. A prayer or anything further was not permitted. That speaker ruled fairly and reasonably under the circumstances. They have a job to do. Do not push your luck.
So sick of this daily sad sorry arse maori nonsense as are a large majority of kiwis, I have many Maori in my extended family,all great hard working kiwis who state are more and more embarrassed with this pathetic shite.
Hipkin also misses the flamin toilet bowl everytime. But it doesn't bother him, as he is so used to making a right mess for others to clean up after him.
Hipkins is like Baghdad Bob
He is absolutely pathetic,still can't work out how he got dicked in the election and still struggling to work out what a woman is.He needs to step down and go and mow old ladies lawns, at least that would be of some use .
The majority of Maori are great hard working people. Wake tepati Maori
Then its time for them to reign in the idiots
I would like to know what the heck everyone is saying. Pigden language, I can't be bothered. Speak one or the other, translate both if you want to keep the interest of all people. A bunch of oversensitive idiots crying over skin color, religion and pride. Who cares, I don't, I just want some common sense to return to my country please. Racism at its best (or worst however you see it) in New Zealand imo...
@@roga8681 I hope you mean rein.
agree to a point..but then half of them are dole budging grocery stealing Crack smoking gang affiliated baby killing huck mucks...🤣🤣🤣
@@roga8681 Hmmm... and get the rest... off hand outs...!
Te Pati Maori is a separatist movement and has sympathetic supporters in Greens and Labour.
It's the only way they get seats in Parliament.
They seem to have no idea how this could end, or just dont care if country goes up in flames
total separatists and want to rule NZ with their agenda - making us subservient to their ideals and Maori culture. ain't my culture and I'm not serving their multi gods.
thats why they are not the ruling government.
@@KitKat-xq2jc I certainly hope they won't be
What a waste of time. Wasting tax payers money being disruptive. This is pathetic
What happened to our country this rubbish is not clearing our Debt
Parliament does not represent the minority or the majority. It represents democracy and ALL “ NEW ZEALANDERS” !!
😂😂😂😂
What a joke ,royalist
Bang on point!
Well said, you have captured it in a nugget.
All life’s used to matter😢
Now Mario’s live is all that matter’s and some cultures need to learn to respect nignah turtles munten nignogs?
So disrespectful, should’ve used the flax houses as kindling full stop .
There is a small portion of people here who are not new Zealanders but economic political imports.
Bring your dress code back, remove your bloody hates and sunglasses... It's a joke
Totally agree new ruleling needs to happen.
Exactly! Not even allowed to wear that getup into a bank.
Where is all that respect for the culture of the parliamentary procedure
That ain’t culture
@@blazdaoh but necessary ....
No culture for parliamentary procedure whilst The Maori Party are in the house. Ban them until rules of the house are adhered to.
@@andrewrobinson4083 👍👍 agree ...
They renamed respect to mana and used it repeatedly just in case we missed it
Once again they are asking for special treatment, rules for thee, but not for me.
We signed a treaty stating that we have equal right in ur system however we govern our own people. Therefore we signed that we can make ur law and urs does not work for us as we govern ourself. The crown acknowledged we did NOT ceed sovereignty. Kia ora
@@ZmanTace tosser
Why do so many Maori live in the past?
They are not being true to the past but changing it by stealth and deceit to undermine the dignity and respect of their ancestors who signed the Treaty- disgraceful behavior! Here is hoping that those with more respect for themselves and their history do not stand with them when they seek to further disrespect all that their ancestors won for them in the coming days.
Do you have a past
you seem's to be livng in it..
@@tamaashford7196 What a dumb question without a question mark. Back to school for you.
@@zionnejaqzon4476 Living in what? And why did you put a possessive with seem. Back to school for you two too.
Hipkins is such a disgrace.
100%
what's with the swatiska?
@@carrier411 that the only symbol you gonna call out?
@@shadowbanned1999 tell me what it's about? Ive never seen it before
@@carrier411 bit of art I made to provoke everyone and gey people thinking about the similar behaviours of a desperate mob.
I'm not into National but the Speaker is 100% Correct.
We don't need singing and dancing in Parliament.
You boring as white paint 😂
Gerry has been a great speaker - I'm so grateful to all these MPs who've come out of the wood works and shown great experience and confidence - Shane Jones is another bolter. Well done
Agreed!
meanwhile no housing being sorted . to much hui no do e
good comment
Why do we hear so little about housing aye. It should be the main thing they talk about until it's bloody sorted.
Actions speak louder than words!!
in this case what we need is a good dose of don't e
i.e. don't let any more immigrants in, that's what drives the real estate market
if the Nz politicians had kiwis interest at heart GST would be removed and so forth . NZ is being replaced with others . It’s just theatre people
What a lot of bs by labour and greens
your lips are bull💩...🤣🤣
Te Pati Māori are embarrassing and help to play into the divide between Maori the rest of New Zealand. I’m not sure why they and their supporters believe they are above the rules on the house. Making exceptions just because is dangerous. NZ is heading in the wrong direction if we keep allowing TPM,the Greens and Labour’s crazy ideals to be followed.
All Crap. They were there solely to cause a disturbance. As usual
Hipkins and davidson are showing no respect to the house.... it wasn't a karakia
They should close the public gallery for ever if this BS is going to carry on, go sing on a Marae not in parliament.
Gerry is too soft on the Maori Party MPs.
Any of these hand wringers want to comment on the brutal murder of Ruthless Empire and the subsequent gutless silence by his parents ?
Well said.We all know three people for sure know what ultimately happened to that helpless child.I bet many others including family,law enforcement,and welfare services know as well.
Another one on a long list…families clamming up….sad.
Stop arse linking hipkins
No wonder this country is going backwards. So much wasted time.... 🥱
Hipkins adding another nail to his coffin.
This is Parliament not a Marae!
Marae ??
Are you dreaming ??
you mean the whare korero nui?
A basic prayer ain't jus in marae wake up
If its a prayer then isn't that bringing religion into govt. Church and state kinda deal? Id rather they got down to business rather than having christian prayer first too
Wearing that hat is pretty disrespectful and unprofessional for Parliament.
Every time I hear Willie Jackson speak claiming to be Maori I can't seem to get past his DNA Test Results 18% English, 34% Chinese, 25% Ashkenazi Jew, 0.4% African, 20% Polynesian 2% Spanish. I mean look at the make up of this Man -- More Chinese than anything else !
that's a weird mix. i presume maori is included under "polynesian"
Well spoken . 😮
did he make that public somewhere along the line? didn't know that about him
does he identify as chinese lol?
Yes he took part in a tv program .went round world met relations😮@carrier411
SIt down Willie
The Maori are the one's being respectful. They just continue to take the piss.
Today I heard on the news that there are 100.000 people identify as Maori. Well they tepati Maori got about 3 percent of that. I rest my case.
All the whinging maori supporters who voted labour are now in agreement with the maori party and hipkins knows he might lose their support.
It's actually a million people that identify as Maori, perhaps listen properly
I thought to be Maori you would need to be 50% to be Maori, if you have been in New Zealand for over 100 years you will have some Maori dna in your family tree
Respect is earned.
Agreed. Earned and not Stolen
No way respect is given always to everyone. To do otherwise is what Hitler did.
I cannot stand any of them, be it Hipkins, Labour, Greens, Te Pati Maori. I just wish they all shut up and resign, so that we can get on with making this country good again.
How to respect a ruling without respecting a ruling.
Always making up the rules as they go to suit their views. Always excuses.
This country is stuffed
It's an island not country
@@ttm2609 'An' island? Which one, lol?
@@ttm2609first of all you donkey its islands because it's more than one....lol..basic math.
Secondly a country is defined as a nation that has its own government that occupies a territory regardless if it's an island, islands, peninsula or a landmass on a continent.
Go back to school.
Well then the rest of us,aka non maori should stand up for our democratic governance and not remain silent. If we don't stand soon we will be complicit in the changes which have already begun.
@sandypike2431 some would call that racism
why's that guy allowed to wear a cowboy hat in parliament??
He's got on Jordans too hahaha , love it
Because he is rude.
He is an idiot and a joke for Maoridom, and NZ.
No body brave enough to tell him dress to rule or get out what a bloody disgrace
cultural appropriation ?
Is this a national Parliament or a concert hall? What a clown show.
I dislike Hipkins. There is a job that has to be done. There ought not to be special privileges offered to any time-wasting.
What a waste of time. The viewing gallery is for the public and shouldn't be used by any group to push their political agenda.
Can TPM be expelled from the House, also Willie Jackson? Their ructions and actions appear contrary to the workings of the house, it's not a maori parliament it's a Parliament for NZers, the kiwi people.
What's a kiwi ? 😂😂😂 pakeha
Speakers job to control the house sometimes he lets things go to far ....
willie trying to be a big man but shows his true self and his mouth runs away with him
Brownlee needs to be firmer.
Why are they wasting time arguing about rules set out that they all agreed to by signing a legal document?
Why arent they discussing relevant topics like how to get the family of baby Ruthless to talk about how they killed a defenceless baby?
The opposition parties are a pack of self referencing, windbags without any initiative or ideas to improve our country.
So from now on all visitors in the gallery will be able to speak, sing, or dance. Did the Maori invent the cowboy hut and are free to wear it in the house? How does that respect the Mana of the house?
Next they will have someone doing the moonwalk.
A couple of rotten apples.... 🍎 🍎
Well said Shane also sounds like someone people want to turn parliament into a church service 🤔
Davidson should speak 100% English, otherwise how does EVERYONE know what they are saying. LESS than 8% of NZ speak Maori, I am sure if someone stood up and started speaking there home country language IE: Chinese, Hindu etc they would be shut down, and TAKE THAT COWBOY HAT OFF!....NO RESPECT
Davidson can't speak any maori unless she has it on a piece of paper in front of her.
There is a team of interpreters who are ready at all times to interpret any Māori language being spoken whilst the house is sitting is how EVERYONE knows what they are saying. They also have every right as it is a formal language of the country
@@PapaBaushpiss off and stop encouraging idiots to waste our tax dollars
that's the whole point. they've always got a grievance, always got moral superiority if nobody can understand what they're saying. nobody can contradict them because it would be raccist to keep asking them to translate their speech into english
That's the whole point. they've always got a grievance, always got moral superiority if nobody can understand what they're saying. nobody can contradict them because it would be raccist to keep asking them to translate their speech into english.
Pity Jackson didn't go on with his list of changes and mention silly hats.
Hes a dick and im maori bloody embarassment to nz
Chris Hipkins and Marama Davidson, you try to rebutt the Speaker's ruling with a point of order?!? Brownlee must have the patience of a saint.
Rawiri Waititi should learn to remove his hat whilst indoors - that, in my culture, is incredible disrespect.
Shane Jones makes a good point and Willy Jackson doesn't disappoint with some utterly contemptuous commentary.
Marama Davidson finishes with fine piece of tortured logic trying to claim that the Speaker is responsible for the lack of order. Clearly Marama has not yet developed full understanding of objective reality, the nature of events and causality.
Banging on in another language a massive population of the country can’t understand just seems smooth brained
Keep quiet in the gallery at all times everybody
Our hard earned money goes into these bullshit.
The hat sir is disrespectful.
Given the mana that house please remove it.
The speaker is the final authority not your flaming tikanga
Is it a marae or our house of parliament? I'm sick of the arrogance of speaking a language people don't understand. Make them sit down until they learn to respect the benefits they have as New Zealanders.
Oh go see a doctor ffs. If you're too ignorant to learn a second language then that's your problem. Typical pakeha
You be happy with the benefits that you have here in Aotearoa
@@blazdaoh Its you guys on the bloody benefits.
And it's your bloody thirsty ancestors who tried to kill our culture our voice plus your kind is on it too hilarious 😂
It is very much a Parliament and a 'House of Representatives' and therefore official languages are often used within it. New Zealand has three official languages: English, Maori (from 1987) and New Zealand Sign Language (from 2006). As Parliament is 'The House of Representatives' it is not at all an issue of 'arrogance' to speak a language of those a Member of Parliament is there to represent. Some will speak in the language, or even other official languages, of those who put them in to Parliament from the outset. It is an enduring element of New Zealand democracy that Maori and English have been spoke within Parliament in New Zealand since 1868. New Zealand parliament is about governance of the people by the people. Simultaneous language interpretation occurs as part of standard practice within Parliament, so any and all of the Members of Parliament have access to understanding at any time what is spoken. Those in the Parliamentary Gallery can request a receiver and earpiece also. Should anyone other than a Member Of Parliament or Gallery observer listen in and watch parliamentary proceedings occur and not understand themselves one of the official languages being used, they can rest assured that ALL of New Zealand's House of Representative MP's and those in the actual House of Representatives at the time do have continual simultaneously interpretation available to them. The process of using an official language is legal and a good one to operate within Parliament, in order to honour the democratic structure and system of Governance for New Zealand. You can learn both English, Te Reo and Sign Language via many local community groups and their classes. Doing so may well prove to be the very key to help resolve any personal frustration over not knowing official languages that others themselves in fact know and fluidly engage in.
It is either Westminster rules or it is not. There cannot be a "blending" of 2 governments.
Why not?
Why not? Westminster rules aren't carved in granite atop a mountain in Tibet.
All these clowns standing up and stating they wont challenge the speakers ruling... and then proceeding to challenge the ruling.
These people should be getting paid minimum wage.
Can we get on with getting the business of the house done! This is a complete nonsense and misuse of tax payer dollars
A couple of Māori words and a whinge does nothing to heal. I rather suspect that some of the Māori we have in our current parliament, especially those from the Green Party, the Māori Party and the Labour Left, have neither pride in themselves or pride in the way they present to the Nation. Neither do they seemingly have any desire whatsoever to be judged by history as anything other than disruptive and childish in the way they conduct themselves within the Parliament. It is sad to think that people such as these are the best that Māori can offer for the serious business of governing our Nation.
the house of parliament is now a marae
You must earn respect by showing others respect which is want TPM don't do at all. So it works both ways
Words don't count as work and getting on with the job should be the focus.Can't move forward whilst looking back all the time.
not so. for parliament words are their work
Māori encroachment into the rules of parliament should not be aloud !full stop! For that matter No Discrimination should be alloud either in respect to any one ethnic group over another . ONE people ONE New Zealand !
No, many people, one New Zealand.
Imagine if the Maori said "one people, one Aotearoa", meaning that all Europeans had to leave, what would your response be? Why is turn-about not fair play in this instance?
They say whatever they want and then just get a slap on the wrist and continue saying whatever they want
Hipkins just hates following the rules of the house and thinks its ok to make them up and expect everyone else to follow them. What else would you expect from someone who cannot say what a woman is.
Waste of money
Yes, things are changing in the house, but sadly not for the better. The once respectful dress has noticeably changed from suite and ties to cowboy hats and jeans. There is foul language and aggressive, almost violent behavior. Labour, greens ,maori are dragging the house to depths never seen before.
These Marxists are exposing themselves. They will lose more seats in the next election.
Love your work, but couldn't sit through this one, to even make a sensible comment. How normal pollies sit and listen to this ongoing dribble is beyond me.
It is a place of business not a place for natives running around dancing thinking they hard done by
Bet you are hoot to hang out with , racist comments by the dozen
Take your hat off when your inside.
They want flexibility in The House but yet they are inflexible on the marae.
It's not a flamin marae
Davidson, you dribble.
The left parties of Nz continue to be an absolute laughing joke
Shane Jones oration of sensible logic is second to none including his own party leader whom i also hold in the highest regard.
Sad that these real men of the people have to wade through the dross that is the opposition and te pati reps.
As for jackson, the opposite end of the scale to Mr Jones and Mr Peters and yes, the caps and lack of are deliberate.
I wonder much of Parliaments time is taken up with this all this hand wringing and debate to appease maters solely about Maori's perceived injustice. On the subject of respect, only one person is sitting in parliament wearing a cowboy hat, it is considered respectful to remove your hat when sitting indoors.
"it is considered respectful to remove your hat when sitting indoors."
Not according to everybody. There are thousands of cultural beliefs on this planet regarding hatwear, not just the Anglo-Saxon ones.
If a person is showing what they sincerely deem to be respect, then that is respect, regardless of how the receiver takes it.
I would love one of the MP's to learn sign language and use it and see how no one understands what they are say, how many are struggling with other languages in parliament
Mana there, mana here, mana whatever everywhere 😂 its the government not the Marae
Now allowing gregorian chanting whenever family values are upheld.
While I agreed with all of the speakers, apart from Shane Jones, this is my point. A Komatua can be interrupted midway through his waiata by the Assistant Speaker, but a Minister is allowed to cross the floor, wave her hands around aggressively & shout at a another colleague, & people watching smile & think it's funny. The bias is quite clear. The Assistant Speaker needs guidance in the protocol of Te Maori ways & an apology should have been forthcoming.
About time, manners makes a man. Something very rear among some Maori. European people have customs as well as the Maori people. We seem not to value many European customs, we keep giving way to the others.
Reading between the lines with a lot of the comments,it seems people are very upset that after decades of subjugation Maori are finally allowed to have a voice and the inherent racism that a lot of white people seem to hold to find equality very hard to deal with
did you mean rare? not that it matters, both versions fit.
Julie Ann Genters recent behaviour in the House disqualifies the Greens from pointing their finger at anyone.
These Greens really are insane!
Labours wako, lost in space commentary from hipkis and jackson, not worth an ear.
Maori MP’s. All Hui no Doey.
The Public gallery is there to listen and observe, not partake
Exactly.
Since when should antics in the Public Gallery have any effect on Parliamentary procedure?
"A creeping change" infections do the same. There are those who continually attempt to inflict change that serves their narrative. Like a drop of dye dropped into a cup of water.
My white grandmother always told me “treat people how they treat you” when you give disrespect you get it back. “Half European Māori” great way to make a point overstayer
Be nice to understand what's even being said...
I accept that Maori have their culture, their religion, because that's what it is, karakia/prayer, waiata/hymn. If I as a Christian demanded prayer in the house (if I was an MP) would that be accepted? No I don't think so. Draw a line for all please. No waiata/hymn, no karakia/prayer, in parliament for anyone. We should all be equals, one person is no better or worse than another, we are equals or should be and not treated by the colour of our skin.
I thought the waiata was just a cultural song, I didn’t know it had religious significance.
@@quralwilliams9716 the culture is based on spiritual things. Gods of the sky, earth, water, forests, taniwha and spirits of ancestors. Basically Pantheism.
A prayer is said at the beginning of each session so it is accepted
@@puawaiherewini5993 in what language and said by who. It might sound like splitting hairs but you could have any of 4 or 5 languages from different belief systems and not everyone would know which God was being prayed to, they’re not all the same. Would every religion be accepting of a Muslim prayer or a prayer said by someone representing a Satanist church? And there is such a church. I don’t believe any prayers should be said in parliament for that reason, they’re all worshiping or following different deities. Religion and politics should not be practiced in the same forum imo.
This information is readily available if you look it up. It is in English.
For example I just quickly looked this up.
TUESDAY, 6 JUNE 2023
The Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.
KARAKIA/PRAYERS
Hon JENNY SALESA (Assistant Speaker): Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations, that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility, for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen.
Who would have thought Gerry Brownlee would make such a good speaker of the house? I know I didn't, but I'm glad to be proven wrong.
Parliament has its own Westminster Tikanga and thats it, Maori Tikanga has no place there the speakers need to emphasise this.
Parliament is no place for tikanga, waiata, hakas etc.
Disrespecting parliamentary procedure is disrespecting the crown.
Parliament was established by the crown. It is not a Maori custom. There wasn’t a parliament before colonisation.
Non Maori cannot step on a marae and start changing the rules.
" I accept the ruling"........BUT...
If there is a BUT then you are NOT supporting the ruling!
What is 'marna', does this apply to every individual in the country, or only to certain individuals. And can any man be a 'cowmartua', or is this term only for addressing certain individuals. Just another curious onlooker.
Marama is off this planet. If I did a chant from the gallery I would be removed.
The Maori Party members have no Mana