“The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.” Right on Sean
This is a very dangerous and slippery slope now. On the basis of being in breach of oath and inciting violence, they should be removed from parliament.
Time to ban race based political parties, enough of these ridiculous low brow morons, they take up too much precious time for parlament to do something constructive. Lbours support for all this party does is a disgrace.
TPM and Rawiri Waititi are a complete disgrace. They talk of Tikanga and mana all while spewing racist rhetoric and constantly playing the victim. To spite what they would have you believe, they DO NOT speak for all Maori!
@killerangel4613 well, I know that roughly 20 percent of NZ are maori, and they only got 3 percent of that vote, so definitely a minority. I'm maori and you couldn't pay me to vote for those clowns
@killerangel4613 I am typing this quietly because my husband who is of Ngapuhi descent gets really riled when the Maori Party is mentioned, he says those @@####***## do not speak for him.
No John Key and his 'Party' set this in motion. His clone Luxflake Luxon is continuing his legacy. Cinders just sped the rolling ball up a bit. Yet still the idiots vote National & hope things will change. Yeah Right..
exactly my Taxes are for the country, so I believe that if they want their own way then their followers must direct their taxes to their party so watch this space it will be they have all the funds, and we have none and then cry poverty. Get rid of the treaty and turn New Zealand to a Republic and all hell will break loose but at least everyone will be able to make their own mind up. to me the way I see it Māori were colonizer's as well and not indigenous either they came from Hawaii so to say we took their land is breaching on the grounds of .... they weren't the first here or the last New Zealand lets grow up and start to appreciate what we have as a country and grow and not listen to those who want power to abuse it
Let them speak. Soon some in the media will respond to what these people are saying. Sedition is a crime. The defence can therefore only be that there was no treaty. Therefore, they are saying f… the treaty. Right?
@maramadavis775 you seem to want to not comprehend the breach of trust aspect in relation to their oath of office. A man is no-thing, if his word is worth nothing. No Mana.
Separate government requires them to resign from their current position, right? Good riddance. So glad I live in Aussie now and don't have to hear about this bullsh!t on a daily basis anymore. So peaceful.
I left the country I grew up in because of Maori bullshit in the 60s I worked in a gang, logging, 17 Maori and one Pakeha, we got on fine, times changed. I was spat at in TOKOROA, We gave the bastards the written language, hell good riddence
No , you have to put up with middle eastern rubbish , gangs, murders , hoons and hoodlums . Don't think when you move somewhere else that you get away from lower socioeconomic dramas
Wanting the Māori Party to shut up just shows how little you understand about democracy. If you can’t handle different viewpoints, maybe it’s time for you to step out of the political arena. Instead of whining about their voices, try actually engaging with the issues they’re raising. It’s pathetic to demand silence just because their views challenge your comfort zone
If they wish to set up their own kangaroo parliament, they can fund it 100% themselves, without the taxpayer's involvement. Let's see how long it would last without the gravy-train of endless kiwi tax dollars propping it up.
What about the gravy train of endless kiwi tax dollars propping up a government that has been ripping you off for decades, look how hard you are working, look at what money you bring home , look at your tax, look at your rates ,look at how the big corporates pay minimal tax, look at the infrastructure. Look at everything you have worked hard for. It is not Māori that have done this. John key put 1.6 billion tax payer dollars in to Canterbury finance without asking you or any one else , and why did he do this ? To stop his very rich mates from losing their millions. Which was more than all the treaty pay outs at that time.he created the housing crisis by allowing 1 million people into this country. Do some home work. Your white government is the problem along with a few brown tongue plastic Māori.. Jerry brownly was found to have been acting illegally in the Christchurch rebuild. But got away from it by giving that portfolio. To some one else. Or don’t you care, and you just want to whinge about Māori.
Asking for a separate parliament raises more questions than answers, if they weren't trying to get protests started every few months they might seem reasonable
Enough is enough, really. New Zealanders should not tolerate separatism any longer. The Crown, the Parliament and the Government must do something to stop it.
Should be charged for Treason, Hate speech and Inciting violence. If a European that doesn't identify as Maori said even half as much they would be up for jail time.
So the Maori activists are going to have a separate Parliament, two questions, where will it be and how is going to pay, certainly not the New Zealand taxpayers.
Turangawaewae Marae in Ngāruawāhia where the Maori King resides! And we must not forget his Charitable Trust that has now been deregistered. Ururangi Trust: A trust responsible for managing the office of the Māori King being investigated by the Charities Service lent $83,000 for travel expenses of a company associated with one of its staff, documents reveal. The Herald on Sunday also found the Ururangi Trust, funded $1.6 million annually by Tainui, has purchased five new or near-new luxury four-wheel drives over the past two years while at the same time rapidly increasing its borrowing from banks and finance companies. Ururangi employs nine people full-time, but the bulk of its $860,846 salary bill is split between King Tūheitia Paki and the Trust's executive manager, Rangi Whakaruru. In Ururangi's annual report for the year to March 31, 2017, published on the Charities Register, the trust discloses it advanced $83,191 for travel expenses of a company called Māori International Limited. etc
They can have it on Turangawaewae Marae, funded by the Taxpayers that are on the Maori Roll. The can have their own Te Manatū Whakahiato Ora (Ministry of Social Development) - funded my the Taxpayers on the Maori Roll. If anyone does not know about the Turangawaewae Marae, that is where the Maori King lives. And his Charity: Ururangi Trust (was funded by Tainui) has been deregistered. NZ Herald: 8 Apr, 2018:Ururangi Trust: A trust responsible for managing the office of the Māori King being investigated by the Charities Service lent $83,000 for travel expenses of a company associated with one of its staff, documents reveal. The Herald on Sunday also found the Ururangi Trust, funded $1.6 million annually by Tainui, has purchased five new or near-new luxury four-wheel drives over the past two years while at the same time rapidly increasing its borrowing from banks and finance companies. Ururangi employs nine people full-time, but the bulk of its $860,846 salary bill is split between King Tūheitia Paki and the Trust's executive manager, Rangi Whakaruru. In Ururangi's annual report for the year to March 31, 2017, published on the Charities Register, the trust discloses it advanced $83,191 for travel expenses of a company called Māori International Limited. - google this to read the full article
@@killerangel4613 why? Because all they have is deluded shit talk with no common sense when hit with facts they have nothing to say they are just noise and when real problems are spoken about with solutions they dont want to hear it and if pakeha spoke about maori the way they do they would be imprisoned wake up
@@killerangel4613 No - because they were inciting violence, threatening violence and throw targeted racial slurs at people in order to cause a sense of being threatened. AND because they are liars and thieves. Try doing what they do or say - if you have white skin. They are disgraceful racist, power hungry, greedy idiots, that we DO NOT need in our parliament. They don't care about the TOW - unless they can spin it somehow to line their own pockets. And they sure don't care about Maori people in general. They are frauds.
The Maori ancestors had been put to prisons and jails just because they were defending their land. They were also put there because they did not want to send their wives or daughters to the Europeans to get r-ped. This is unbelievable how you guys are on the white mans side. who is trying to take away Maori rights get again. And you all get what you want because the Europeans have taken most of New Zealand anyways.
While they go on like this they are finished long term. There are only a few and do not represent Maori - so this mob should be shunted out of parliament - quick time
It is highly unreasonable for you to assume all Maori are mobsters but yet all of the Europeans came in with muskets and so much more to make this such a terrible place. Maori had lived peacefully before the Europeans and yet to this day you guys are making the false accusations from which we had started with back in the early 1800s.
It’s hilarious how people like you think you get to decide who represents Māori. Maybe educate yourself before spewing this nonsense. Dismissing a group as 'a few' just shows your ignorance. Thankfully, your opinion is irrelevant to the political process.
Glad you put this out beyond the pay wall. I knew Te Pati had said from the outset of the sitting parliament that they would cause trouble but this is not democratic, it is treachery
THAT IS WHAT NEEDS CHANGING. MĀORI ARE TRADITIONALLY PUSHED OUT OF MUCH OF OUR COUNTRY 😢 Māori have been kicked down at for 200 years and STILL the anti-Māori rhetoric, the race-bating and HATRED continues, twisting words to fit the anti-Māori view point 👁️👁️🤦🤷 FYI...I am Pākehā and nearly 70!!!
@@cherylreid2964 Nah, you really need to spend a decent amount of time studying actual and real New Zealand history - including right back to the times before the Treaty was signed - not just the new modified and sweetened history that paints Māori as the poor victims. Study the writings of respected Māori leaders like Sir Apirana Ngata, Peter Buck, and others like them. See what they understood as the Treaty, what it actually said and meant - and why.
ADERN like a rat she deserted when things got tough Her makings this debacle from the HORI'S Adern's agenda was to bring no longer democracy to NZ with help from her mates in the US enough said Glad to live offshore
Well said. The degree to which I hate that woman is infinitely greater than the most abusive (and I don't use that term lightly) men I have had the misfortune of being tangled up with in my life. I wouldn't want to get anywhere near her...lest I not be able to contain myself. There is nothing good to say about her legacy WHATsoever. She was a fraud from the get-go...and she certainly gave TPM a LOT of leeway...in fact, she pretty much endorsed their behavour and intent.
@@bigthinker281the boat is about to collapse. This whole approach of trying to be an apologist & be woke is no longer working. The government needs to take a stand against the radicals. If not everyone will suffer from their actions of inciting civil unrest. That rant was calling to topple a democratically elected government.
It was totaly discraseful there behavour its time they stopped bleading tax payers money most kiwis have had a guts full they need to be held accountable for there actions.
This is why we have a "Speaker" in Parliament. A responsible person who is supposed to know the rules of Parliament forwards and backwards needs to step in to bring these people into line. Te Pati Maori have broken the rules and the Speaker should address this issue before they are allowed to come back into Parliament and in the interim their salaries and Parliamentary benefits should cease.
Interesting how you want the Speaker to step in now, but seem fine with dismissing the democratic process when it doesn't suit your view. Te Pāti Māori is representing their people within the rules of Parliament-like it or not. Calling for their pay to be stopped just because you don’t agree with them is laughable. Maybe focus your energy on understanding why they’re speaking up rather than trying to silence them
If this doesn't matter to NZ citizens or Parliament then we may as well give in entirely, but the majority of kiwis voted for our mp's within the Westminster system, and that's where they should be legally by the sound of it. A separate Maori governance will never work. They would still be using the services the gvt provides, roads, shops, businesses etc, the idea is utter stupidity and ill considered.which imo is a reflection of the mad hatter and his Te Pati
"What you say is what you are"? Is that a serious comment? Is it even remotely logical? If I say 'blue' do I turn blue? Too stupid! Here's something even deeper for you to think about? What has Te Pati Maori done to stop Maori parents murdering their own kids? The Te Pati Maori MPs throw the words tamariki and mokopuna around as if they care about Maori kids, but they don't even discuss Maori adults murdering Maori kids.
Yes and sports teams and many other examples. Totally illiberal…and I am a real liberal…I believe all people should be treated EQUALLY regardless of race or gender!
They should vacate Parliament as they are in breach by been divisive calling for their supporters to follow them. They get no funding from the taxpayer because of their Treason. The Taxpayers of the country have done the best they can to fix all past grievances and are now second class citizens with all the perks that Maori have now. There are a few who want more and more that they will keep as they have always done, very little goes to the people that need it which is disgusting. Ask your leaders where is the money as they know where it is.
It’s wild how you can call a group 'divisive' while spitting out this kind of bigoted nonsense. If you think Māori are the ones creating division, maybe take a look in the mirror. The fact that you’re whining about 'second class citizens' when Māori have been fighting for basic rights and recognition is laughable. And as for 'treason'? That’s just you throwing out buzzwords because you have no real understanding of the history or the current situation
@@Māori_proud_2_Byou didnt read all the previouswriters comments, youve taken bits from thier writing. The Taxpayer has already put in heaps of money to try and fix past grievances, and you all still think thats not enough. Stop living in the past and move forward.
What is the process for kicking them out of 'NZ' Parliament, who has to implement it, so we know who to approach Speaker of the House, Governor General, Prime Minister ?
In previous resignations they've had to give a writing letter to the speaker so yes I think Gerry might be the man regarding if they stay in parliament or not. But govt might have other related legal ramifications too from seditious actions. Be funny if Gerry came out publicly and just said he accepts the resignation of the whole party. I think we should expect an official government response soon.
It is the GG who must determine if oath of office are legitimate…it not then an election on the basis of compliance is the only pathway. All presuming that we want a representative democracy and an elected house of presentatives. If not, then King Charlie has to step aside.
Before even making this claim you should at least learn how to say the actual parties name. do you want to remove all parties with only maori in them so you can feel the white privilege coming back to you? or do you need more education to see the views on how maori are trying to take back what's theirs.
If they set up a government. The should have to pay back all the money from the settlements. It would put the country back in the black. How ironic that would be.
That’s a ridiculous and uninformed suggestion. The settlements were made to address historical injustices, not to be used as a bargaining chip for political games. Suggesting they should pay back funds just shows how little you understand about the purpose of these settlements. It’s ironic that you’d propose such an idea while completely ignoring the real issues at play. Instead of fantasizing about financial revenge, maybe educate yourself on why these settlements were necessary in the first place.
They can’t have it both ways. They either abide by their oath and do their job in parliament, or they resign (they should be dismissed) from parliament and FUND their own governance. No tax money, no Waitangi Tribunal bs. THEY and ‘their people’ can fund it
I just laugh at both sides, look at them both😂. Playing word games, cursing their own people, into this performance of dirty politics way of making a living. Extremists never win, WOKE & EXTREMISTS ENTITLEMENT is Sean's game. Or platforms 🎭 game
Calling Te Pāti Māori 'full of hate' just because you disagree with their stance is a lazy way to dismiss their concerns. Their criticism comes from a place of addressing real issues and historical injustices, not from hate. If you’re shaking your head in disbelief, maybe it’s time to actually listen and understand the root of their message instead of blindly labeling it as hate. It’s much easier to criticize than to engage with the complex issues they’re tackling
Why should tax payers pay the salary of Shane Jones when he is taking donations from mining companies so he can destroy this planet? There’s gonna be nothing left for younger people, but he won’t be around to have to deal with the impacts of his corruption and greed. More happy for my tax payer money to go towards a second parliament then I am it going towards the destruction of this planet.
@terryopines8001 I've spent a lot of time living and working in PNG. Beautiful country with lots of potential, and the vast majority of the local people I came across were decent kind people. However PNG is exactly what NZ will become like under any form of maori control. Hence we must fight with all our might.
I was fortunate enough to spend Friday night at a table with 4 Maori gentleman at the local RSA. I never said a word for ages, i just listened. All they had to say was that the Maori Party were completely nuts, and that they didn't represent them in any way whatsoever.
Most Maori would agree with those men. Halfwiti appeals to the historically ignorant, separatists, Marxists and gang members. Not the hardworking taxpaying Maori who don’t hang around Marae’s navel gazing and on the grift.
@@eileendover2468 Yes we would have left if Labour had won last election. Country infrastructure is falling apart while billions have been wasted on hand outs in the past. When you arrive here from overseas Everywhere seems so scruffy and run down. Auck CBD is an absolute mess. Had to call for an ambulance last week for an incident near the wharf and none were available, hospital less than 5km away. Eventually a fire engine showed up that looked as if it had come from MOTAT.
Listen to all you small minded, racist, privileged jobs that can't stand the fact that the true history stories are coming back to bite yous! Your Tipunas started this, ours will finish it, just keep hiding ya no rahos
I’m a Māori 56yrs old . I live on the Gold Coast like a lot of us. I arrived in Australia 2006. I left for a better life more opportunity. I suspect that perhaps this is the reason people are leaving NZ.
@@johnmartin7158 Just checked and Tea Party Maori got 3.08% of the vote whereas NZ First got 6.08%, ACT 8.64% and TOP 2.2%. Tea Party got 6 MPs NZ First 8, ACT 9 and TOP zero MPs . So nowhere near proportional representation! Poor old TOP! What an unfair system!
@@IanG2120 Just checked and Tea Party Maori got 3.08% of the vote whereas NZ First got 6.08%, ACT 8.64% and TOP 2.2%. Tea Party got 6 MPs NZ First 8, ACT 9 and TOP zero MPs . So nowhere near proportional representation! Poor old TOP! What an unfair system! Certainly does not suit me!
@@njd2342 It’s not a pure proportional representation, as the name suggests it’s MMP. basically a combination. Anyway if NZ 1st or Act had those numbers, more than likely you would have said nothing but because Maori did you feel compelled to say something.
What is the legal position on this now, can the Speaker/Governor General remove them from Parliament. It would be interesting to hear from the truly knowledgeable on this, in particular what course of action can be brought against them now...
Very few voted for them and they do not represent maori or anyone else.....let them set up a govt and don't give them any coverage or funds and watch it fall within a few months
We are heading down the same road that South Africa it's called APARTHEID!!!!!!! Look at the mess that country is in and especially their race relations
Surprise! Surprise ! Anyone who couldn't see this coming needs to stop living in La La Land. I'm with you Sean. No taxpayer funding and get out of parliament. What is it? 27 Maori members at the mo? Hardly under represented !
@@olliemoose2020 sore its saw I'm in high school, and English isn't even my first language-Māori is-and yet I speak better English than you. How old are you, 67? Go back to your bingo and pudding, old man. Tell your nurse you need more meds. What old home are you at? Heaven's waiting room?"
The Maori seats should be removed. It is racist to have dedicated Maori seats. I feel sorry for the fools who support TPM. They have been lied to and manipulated.
I don't think they are fools. They know EXACTLY what they voted for! TPM is all guns blazing, they don't exactly do smoke and mirrors with what they are about.
Excellent. They should have the honesty and mana to do exactly that: resign from their seats and leave Parliament. BUT the Maori seats should be abolished.
Also agree. They should be charged with Insurrection. They are stirring a pot that needs no more stirring at present. The guy with the hat should also be forbidden from wearing such Hat as it is to me, giving our Parliament "The Finger" I would not go on a Marae and disrespect to them the way he does to us. No one seems to have the BALLS to get the Hat gone!!
@@johnriley-oq9he There is a large difference between a Marae and the Parliamentary Place. The Marae is a sacred spot. and you insulting that is absurd. Parliament has never been up to Maori needs. With Maori having to pay more, or it being hard for them to find jobs because the white man has always been a leader. It wasn't hard for the Queen to admit she was sorry for the wrongs of Britain so why is it hard for you? Parliament never listens to pupils needs unless it is something to give them more privilege or money. And you guys still complain about your rights when you still have more than Maori as it goes to say. Do not comment about having 'balls' to get them gone. When having the Maori kicked out would cause much more riot and racist accusations that you will be apart of.
So now we're throwing around accusations of 'treason' like it’s a casual term? What’s actually treasonous is dismissing an entire group’s right to be heard because it doesn’t fit your narrow view. Māori, like anyone else, have every right to be represented and fight for their communities. Maybe instead of demanding apologies, you should focus on educating yourself about the actual issues.
What astounded me was the unbelievable ignorance that the Maori Party leadership demonstrated around the budget and how services are funded. I was embarrassed for the Party in terms of what it revealed in terms of its total inability to govern or even understand the workings of government.
There is no process to create a separate Parliament. How can TMP invoke it or begin it? Nonsense. If they want to try and found another one they should be suspended from this one. Goodbye and good riddance.
I agree totally. Expel them from the only legitimate parliament, cease paying them and remove their privileges. Declare their seats to be vacant and, since they have proven that they will not honour their oath, disqualify them from standing in the subsequent by-elections.
Partnership wasn't Luxon's idea. It was first introduced by the Waitangi Tribunal in 1987. But you're right - there can be only one sun in the sky - not two.
A 90% tax on everyone on the Māori electoral roll. Obviously, judging by the number of te Patty moron who got into parliament many on the Māori roll would happily do so.
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR MUM, YOUR DAD, TO YOUR SISTER, TO YOUR BROTHER, TO YOUR YEAR ONE TEACHER, TO ANYONE WHO HAS EVERY LOOKED AT YOUR FACE, AND IF YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND OR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, THEY IS SLEEPING WITH YOUR PARENTS AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY HATES YOU, YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO YOU POSTED THAT F******G COMMENT, IF YOU HATE US THIS MUCH MOVE.
Do you have a valid reason to ban them? Do you think getting rid of Maori culture is okay for your privileged self? Consider all that Maori had to go through just for them to not be accepted in today's' monarchy. Your guardians should be ashamed to raise you. The people you grown up with should be ashamed to be seen with you after this comment. Why don't you speak your thoughts with all Maori and see how they think. You will get crushed with the way you think things. It is unbelievable you can even comment this.
@@KenCrawford-n5k How the hell are they a disgrace to parliament? they are the natives of New Zealand, and to this day are people trying to take that away. The English would never admit to what they've done but cause more of a mess from when they first came here. It is because of Europeans Maori have never learnt to uphold their culture and have the opportunity to live in a free country. But yet Pakeha pretend to their faces that they appreciate the culture. But it's all a manipulation trick to bring them back to when their land was taken. They have still not given it back but instead Europeans made this the 'New Britain' it is disgusting how you feel they are a disgrace when it is just you. You should get educated.
It's ironic they were bandying around pictures of guns on their propaganda posters. The old musket is iconic of colonization. I suppose it epitomizes their ethos of take, take, take. PS: i have maori heritage and we don't appreciate the undemocratic maori party undermining all the good maori people out there
@@jobird354 yes the treaty is precious because of the fact they used to fight to regain mana and utu. you sound so uneducated using that and maybe you should go back to preschool to figure out what would happen today if they treaty was never signed. and even then the Europeans used it to try bribe them into signing they didn't know they were signing to.
The taxpayer is once again being milked by the clowns that MMP has installed in our Parliament, who are the real clowns we are too small a country to have so many clowns on the payroll. Time for a bigger change.
Excuse you but are you forgetting about national. You seem like the person to vote for them but yet they believe in their white privilege and you guys are just following like sheep
@@helenlizzystewart4908Maori tribal radical elite are worth over 70 Billion. Wonder who gets most of that. The John Tamaheres of this world. Over $500thousand per annum. Didn't he rip the waipawera trust off for thousands years ago, over 300,000, or was that just some lie. What about the nearly $200,000 for each TPM mp in the house. Just get rid of the racist Facist Aholes.
I totally agree, they wouldn't have what they've got now if it wasn't for the the tax payers of this country. They are a disgrace , we are one people. Here in NZ they'll soon miss the salary they're that full of themselves they don't have any loyalty to our Office
You are kidding right....ā Pākehā who works for the Tribunal just reported that what the government owes Māori for stolen land has the power to bankrupt the country 10x over....For instance the government gave Waikato 170 million for illegally confiscated land that's worth 12 billion. Your lucky that Waikato and the other iwi settled at a lower figure and you say were greedy!!lol
Take just about any speech by Te Pati Maori, switch the word "Maori" to "White" and you'll have yourself a "terrorist organization" according to the government. Funny how there's one set of rules for one group, and s different set of rules for another group.
You commenting this is disgusting. Do you ever complain about how the Pakeha are trying to take Maori rights again or are you implying that they're so great and fantastic because you're to busy worried about the colour of skin rather than what's really going on. Right now National is trying to take Maori rights away again and it is unbelievable how you think Te Pati Maori is the problem. Nationals behaviour is disgusting yet I see nobody complaining about how they're running things.
They're acting contrary to and not in the interests of the majority of NZer's. They are a declared(by themselves) a racist Party acting only for the supposed representation of some maori. Boot them out of Parliament and take away the benefits and responsibilities that go with that as a Party and MPs.
@@Bellxking What do you think MPs get by way of freebies? If you voted for TPM I feel sorry for you because there is nothing that that Party will do for maori people as a whole.
If it was any White MP that did this. The Maori Party would immediately call for expulsion of said MP
If Act did this it would be the end of the Act Party (as it should be)
More importantly, our media would be wailing for their expulsion
a white man can't say what maori can say.
“The paradox of tolerance states that if a society's practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.” Right on Sean
Correct...we would be called the Klu Klux Klan...
This is a very dangerous and slippery slope now. On the basis of being in breach of oath and inciting violence, they should be removed from parliament.
Harden up clown
Absolutely right and disgusting behavior from them
Time to ban race based political parties, enough of these ridiculous low brow morons, they take up too much precious time for parlament to do something constructive. Lbours support for all this party does is a disgrace.
Let them get more radical. It will be an eye opener for some, and we will also get to see if our system has the balls to put them in their place.
Said like a true hypocrite , typical whites breaking treaties where ever they go
TPM and Rawiri Waititi are a complete disgrace. They talk of Tikanga and mana all while spewing racist rhetoric and constantly playing the victim. To spite what they would have you believe, they DO NOT speak for all Maori!
100% on the point
How many Māori do they speak for ? Do you know ?
@killerangel4613 well, I know that roughly 20 percent of NZ are maori, and they only got 3 percent of that vote, so definitely a minority. I'm maori and you couldn't pay me to vote for those clowns
@killerangel4613 I am typing this quietly because my husband who is of Ngapuhi descent gets really riled when the Maori Party is mentioned, he says those @@####***## do not speak for him.
@@killerangel4613well maori make up around 18% of the country yet tpm attract 3% of the vote. Gives you something to work with.
Yes Te Pati Maori should be banned from parliament. They are treasonous
The treason of having the Atlas Network est 1981 in Co-governance by STEALTH isn't even mentioned.
Totally agree!!
Cindy opened up a Pandora's box full of hate, then promptly ran away.
Just hope she’s still running.
@@mikeholling8830 Well Cindy is still the GG and will be for a couple of years yet. So no not running from anything
Just like she was told to do.... That's why she got the job she is currently in
@@red2775 She's still the governor general, nothings changed
No John Key and his 'Party' set this in motion. His clone Luxflake Luxon is continuing his legacy. Cinders just sped the rolling ball up a bit. Yet still the idiots vote National & hope things will change. Yeah Right..
Let them go thier own way, however this party cannot be funded by the taxpayers
They can either go to Timbuktu or in Bermuda Triangle
exactly my Taxes are for the country, so I believe that if they want their own way then their followers must direct their taxes to their party so watch this space it will be they have all the funds, and we have none and then cry poverty. Get rid of the treaty and turn New Zealand to a Republic and all hell will break loose but at least everyone will be able to make their own mind up. to me the way I see it Māori were colonizer's as well and not indigenous either they came from Hawaii so to say we took their land is breaching on the grounds of .... they weren't the first here or the last New Zealand lets grow up and start to appreciate what we have as a country and grow and not listen to those who want power to abuse it
Lol so it will go no where they cant support themselfs they are useless.
@nevillemckenzie2542 well said mate spot on!
What if their supporters are taxpayers ?
The Maori party should be procecuted and removed from Parliament for this breach
Let them speak.
Soon some in the media will respond to what these people are saying.
Sedition is a crime. The defence can therefore only be that there was no treaty.
Therefore, they are saying f… the treaty. Right?
Oath.
Trustee office
Is the breach of oath, an criminal breach of Trust
Crimes act 1961.
@maramadavis775 you seem to want to not comprehend the breach of trust aspect in relation to their oath of office.
A man is no-thing, if his word is worth nothing. No Mana.
@maramadavis775 You are the racist. You are supporting a race based regime that is opposing the Govt of NZ.
Let Maori yell and dance, most people can't understand the stupidity of it!
Stop paying them
Stop all funding. Not a cent!
They’ll call that genocide
And the various tax grifts.
So does that mean act and national should be banned😅
Keep clocking the heels together, Nazi.
Completely agree. And I certainly hope the NZtaxpayer should not fund, in any way, the new Maori Parliament
Yes I do Sean! This is not what taxes are paid for! They should be removed from parliment!
ill remove your teeth for u
Separate government requires them to resign from their current position, right? Good riddance.
So glad I live in Aussie now and don't have to hear about this bullsh!t on a daily basis anymore. So peaceful.
No they will expect everything to be paid for by the taxpayer
It's coming to you soon.
Separate government means no Treaty of Waitangi go for it and they can fund them selves.
I left the country I grew up in because of Maori bullshit
in the 60s I worked in a gang, logging, 17 Maori and one Pakeha, we got on fine, times changed. I was spat at in TOKOROA,
We gave the bastards the written language, hell good riddence
No , you have to put up with middle eastern rubbish , gangs, murders , hoons and hoodlums .
Don't think when you move somewhere else that you get away from lower socioeconomic dramas
On the government dime, maybe stop paying them, and they can prove how they have been living by their "oath". DEFUND
The Minority doesn't Rule 😊
Did you see when tpm went to Paris on tax payer money there's a video on platform (I think)
what is a dime?
@@losheen262 You.... You're a dime..
How can Waititi preach sedition and get away with it? We need strong political leaders who will address his calls for revolution and separatism.
Sadly, sedition is no longer an offence under New Zealand Law. Of course, setting up a separate ''government'' might constitute treason.
Luxon is a coward traitor
They don't want to be there so stop their Pakeha Pay.
They have 3000 dollars a day I dont I look after the elderly
Definitely a Breach. It's time for the Maori Party to be told to shut up.
Wanting the Māori Party to shut up just shows how little you understand about democracy. If you can’t handle different viewpoints, maybe it’s time for you to step out of the political arena. Instead of whining about their voices, try actually engaging with the issues they’re raising. It’s pathetic to demand silence just because their views challenge your comfort zone
If they wish to set up their own kangaroo parliament, they can fund it 100% themselves, without the taxpayer's involvement. Let's see how long it would last without the gravy-train of endless kiwi tax dollars propping it up.
You sick of it too, bro?!
What about the gravy train of endless kiwi tax dollars propping up a government that has been ripping you off for decades, look how hard you are working, look at what money you bring home , look at your tax, look at your rates ,look at how the big corporates pay minimal tax, look at the infrastructure. Look at everything you have worked hard for. It is not Māori that have done this. John key put 1.6 billion tax payer dollars in to Canterbury finance without asking you or any one else , and why did he do this ? To stop his very rich mates from losing their millions. Which was more than all the treaty pay outs at that time.he created the housing crisis by allowing 1 million people into this country. Do some home work. Your white government is the problem along with a few brown tongue plastic Māori.. Jerry brownly was found to have been acting illegally in the Christchurch rebuild. But got away from it by giving that portfolio. To some one else. Or don’t you care, and you just want to whinge about Māori.
They are truly helping us who are asking for a referendum. We need to get our amazing country working together going 1 direction. Democracy
Asking for a separate parliament raises more questions than answers, if they weren't trying to get protests started every few months they might seem reasonable
democracy is a lie, that any of us have a choice
Who is helping a bunch of Gang prospectors you don't even know what your talking about
@ I wrote the above 5 months ago. I think it’s time to pull your head out of your shady area
Give them no more money, let them earn some and get a job
F up clown , most maoris work you racsist pig
You have to be realisitic @ernier..... who in their right mind would employ that rabble? Better to incarcerate the pricks for treason.
We don't need a divided
New Zealand.
And, what precisely do they want.
Gravy
they should be banned. 100% in breach of their oaths. NO ifs or buts. So disgustingly unprofessional and a stain on the name of all maori
Enough is enough, really. New Zealanders should not tolerate separatism any longer. The Crown, the Parliament and the Government must do something to stop it.
Trouble is you something about this issue then your labelled as racist
This woke BS needs to stop
@@zhanghawley787they have already told us we are racists, so saying it again has little impact.
what a stupid comment!
Or maybe you should be a bit more kind to maori instead of all the unwanted comments and looks got it my whole life and I'm sick of it
Should be charged for Treason, Hate speech and Inciting violence. If a European that doesn't identify as Maori said even half as much they would be up for jail time.
I totally agree with you. I have been called white trash. But I can’t reply to that as I would be jailed
Bull shit
Umm, ur wrong.
@@brandonhepi282 Check your facts mate
@@Stoneynz please enlighten me
Treason...plain and simple.
I think you mean sedition
@@cyberfish6849 Sedition is not a crime
@@MartinCraig-zt2sv Oh yes it is - Crimes Act 1961 No43
@@cyberfish6849 Oh no it isn't - Crimes (Repeal of Seditious Offences) Amendment Act 2007
@@cyberfish6849I think they passed a bill in 2007 that decriminalised sedition.
Which was really dumb.
So the Maori activists are going to have a separate Parliament, two questions, where will it be and how is going to pay, certainly not the New Zealand taxpayers.
Turangawaewae Marae in Ngāruawāhia where the Maori King resides! And we must not forget his Charitable Trust that has now been deregistered. Ururangi Trust: A trust responsible for managing the office of the Māori King being investigated by the Charities Service lent $83,000 for travel expenses of a company associated with one of its staff, documents reveal.
The Herald on Sunday also found the Ururangi Trust, funded $1.6 million annually by Tainui, has purchased five new or near-new luxury four-wheel drives over the past two years while at the same time rapidly increasing its borrowing from banks and finance companies.
Ururangi employs nine people full-time, but the bulk of its $860,846 salary bill is split between King Tūheitia Paki and the Trust's executive manager, Rangi Whakaruru.
In Ururangi's annual report for the year to March 31, 2017, published on the Charities Register, the trust discloses it advanced $83,191 for travel expenses of a company called Māori International Limited. etc
They can have it on Turangawaewae Marae, funded by the Taxpayers that are on the Maori Roll. The can have their own Te Manatū Whakahiato Ora (Ministry of Social Development) - funded my the Taxpayers on the Maori Roll. If anyone does not know about the Turangawaewae Marae, that is where the Maori King lives. And his Charity: Ururangi Trust (was funded by Tainui) has been deregistered. NZ Herald: 8 Apr, 2018:Ururangi Trust: A trust responsible for managing the office of the Māori King being investigated by the Charities Service lent $83,000 for travel expenses of a company associated with one of its staff, documents reveal.
The Herald on Sunday also found the Ururangi Trust, funded $1.6 million annually by Tainui, has purchased five new or near-new luxury four-wheel drives over the past two years while at the same time rapidly increasing its borrowing from banks and finance companies.
Ururangi employs nine people full-time, but the bulk of its $860,846 salary bill is split between King Tūheitia Paki and the Trust's executive manager, Rangi Whakaruru.
In Ururangi's annual report for the year to March 31, 2017, published on the Charities Register, the trust discloses it advanced $83,191 for travel expenses of a company called Māori International Limited. - google this to read the full article
Sean i absolutely agree with you on this, they are selfish and small minded. They should be banned from parliament permanently in my opinion.
6:48 They broke their allegience oath... need to be sacked, let them have their own govt, but no pakeha money!!! Perhaps they need re-colonising😅
Banned and prosecuted
absolutly. if we all used that language and targeted rscial slurs we would be in prison
Why ? Because their view differs from yours ?
@@killerangel4613 why? Because all they have is deluded shit talk with no common sense when hit with facts they have nothing to say they are just noise and when real problems are spoken about with solutions they dont want to hear it and if pakeha spoke about maori the way they do they would be imprisoned wake up
@@killerangel4613 No - because they were inciting violence, threatening violence and throw targeted racial slurs at people in order to cause a sense of being threatened.
AND because they are liars and thieves.
Try doing what they do or say - if you have white skin. They are disgraceful racist, power hungry, greedy idiots, that we DO NOT need in our parliament.
They don't care about the TOW - unless they can spin it somehow to line their own pockets. And they sure don't care about Maori people in general.
They are frauds.
@@killerangel4613I 💯 agree with you
These IDIOTS are definitely
Spreading RACISM aren't they?
they need to be charged with inciting terror and band from parliament and jailed
The Maori ancestors had been put to prisons and jails just because they were defending their land. They were also put there because they did not want to send their wives or daughters to the Europeans to get r-ped. This is unbelievable how you guys are on the white mans side. who is trying to take away Maori rights get again. And you all get what you want because the Europeans have taken most of New Zealand anyways.
May as well a good time to scrap the Maori electorate seats.
I reckon they don't deserve being in parliament..
I don’t think pakeha deserve to be in New Zealand but they used guns to kill my ansectors
While they go on like this they are finished long term. There are only a few and do not represent Maori - so this mob should be shunted out of parliament - quick time
It is highly unreasonable for you to assume all Maori are mobsters but yet all of the Europeans came in with muskets and so much more to make this such a terrible place. Maori had lived peacefully before the Europeans and yet to this day you guys are making the false accusations from which we had started with back in the early 1800s.
It’s hilarious how people like you think you get to decide who represents Māori. Maybe educate yourself before spewing this nonsense. Dismissing a group as 'a few' just shows your ignorance. Thankfully, your opinion is irrelevant to the political process.
Waititi te pati Maori have broken their pledge, the speaker should kick them out, taxpayers getting fleeced.
And the taxpayers are getting fed up with their nonsense
And now, enough is enough the longer they stay in government the more damage they will do.
The government has never honored TeTiriti, so this goes hand in hand,what's good for the government is also good for Te Pati Maori 😅
No need for a Racist Party.
Who act
Shut up sheep@@reganstark7818
Nicely said.
why? we now have an openly racist government
@reganstark7818 if anything act are fundamentally against racism.
Glad you put this out beyond the pay wall.
I knew Te Pati had said from the outset of the sitting parliament that they would cause trouble but this is not democratic, it is treachery
No to sepratism. No to the Aphartide state.
What on earth is Aparthide…😂
THAT IS WHAT NEEDS CHANGING.
MĀORI ARE TRADITIONALLY PUSHED OUT OF MUCH OF OUR COUNTRY 😢
Māori have been kicked down at for 200 years and STILL the anti-Māori rhetoric, the race-bating and HATRED continues, twisting words to fit the anti-Māori view point 👁️👁️🤦🤷
FYI...I am Pākehā and nearly 70!!!
@@cherylreid2964You're not the brightest, are you? These people want apartheid.
@@cherylreid2964 Nah, you really need to spend a decent amount of time studying actual and real New Zealand history - including right back to the times before the Treaty was signed - not just the new modified and sweetened history that paints Māori as the poor victims. Study the writings of respected Māori leaders like Sir Apirana Ngata, Peter Buck, and others like them. See what they understood as the Treaty, what it actually said and meant - and why.
@@cherylreid2964 With Dementia?
Yes, and where’s Jacinda Ardern’s Christchurch Call with that revolting call to arms by Kiri Tamahere-Waititi?
ADERN like a rat she deserted when things got tough Her makings this debacle from the HORI'S Adern's agenda was to bring no longer democracy to NZ with help from her mates in the US enough said Glad to live offshore
"The Christchurch call" was designed specifically to silence White dissent.
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr yes key word Designed
Vote Ray Chung for wellington mayor hic hic got to go imo
Well said. The degree to which I hate that woman is infinitely greater than the most abusive (and I don't use that term lightly) men I have had the misfortune of being tangled up with in my life. I wouldn't want to get anywhere near her...lest I not be able to contain myself. There is nothing good to say about her legacy WHATsoever. She was a fraud from the get-go...and she certainly gave TPM a LOT of leeway...in fact, she pretty much endorsed their behavour and intent.
If that rant had been Luxons wife all hell would be breaking loose!
Exactly
Yes! Totally! But we have authorities and politicians who don’t want to ‘rock the boat.’ That’s why it has gotten this bad for 50 years…
@bigthinker281 maori are only as bold as our Govt is weak
@@bigthinker281the boat is about to collapse. This whole approach of trying to be an apologist & be woke is no longer working. The government needs to take a stand against the radicals. If not everyone will suffer from their actions of inciting civil unrest. That rant was calling to topple a democratically elected government.
@@MandySam13 Aided and abetted by the left wing media who have done nothing but attempt to undermine this government since the election.
Broken oath..therefore removal from sitting in parliament ..AND ..stop the $200K salary they each get!!
It was totaly discraseful there behavour its time they stopped bleading tax payers money most kiwis have had a guts full they need to be held accountable for there actions.
If we need to be held accountable for our actions ( standing up for our rights) then the government need to be held accountable for theirs.
banned them out of the New Zealand Parliament. and cut off all funding to them
This is why we have a "Speaker" in Parliament. A responsible person who is supposed to know the rules of Parliament forwards and backwards needs to step in to bring these people into line. Te Pati Maori have broken the rules and the Speaker should address this issue before they are allowed to come back into Parliament and in the interim their salaries and Parliamentary benefits should cease.
He’s better than Mallard he pissed in their racist pockets
Hahaha no one person is responsible in government let alone the speaker hahaha
And they all break the rules hahaha
Interesting how you want the Speaker to step in now, but seem fine with dismissing the democratic process when it doesn't suit your view. Te Pāti Māori is representing their people within the rules of Parliament-like it or not. Calling for their pay to be stopped just because you don’t agree with them is laughable. Maybe focus your energy on understanding why they’re speaking up rather than trying to silence them
Gerry is weak
@@Māori_proud_2_B theyre idiots
Can't have it both ways. Im in favour of the taxpayer withdrawing their continued financial support and voice in parliament.
Then you have a dictatorship like Iran or China and you’ve now censored everyone who says things you disagree with ? 🤫
If this doesn't matter to NZ citizens or Parliament then we may as well give in entirely, but the majority of kiwis voted for our mp's within the Westminster system, and that's where they should be legally by the sound of it. A separate Maori governance will never work. They would still be using the services the gvt provides, roads, shops, businesses etc, the idea is utter stupidity and ill considered.which imo is a reflection of the mad hatter and his Te Pati
Love that comment!! Lol; but true!!
Yes they should. Imagine these are the people that Ardern wanted to give co government powers to. Unbelievable
Time wasting racists..
ACT are indeed hahaha
Time and taxpayer-funds wasters
What you say is what you are!
"What you say is what you are"? Is that a serious comment? Is it even remotely logical? If I say 'blue' do I turn blue? Too stupid!
Here's something even deeper for you to think about? What has Te Pati Maori done to stop Maori parents murdering their own kids? The Te Pati Maori MPs throw the words tamariki and mokopuna around as if they care about Maori kids, but they don't even discuss Maori adults murdering Maori kids.
Problem started when you created a party based on race in the first place. Will a Pakeha Party be frowned upon?? Of course Duh
Yes and sports teams and many other examples. Totally illiberal…and I am a real liberal…I believe all people should be treated EQUALLY regardless of race or gender!
THERE IS A PAKEHA PARTY ITS CALLED ACT NZ FIRNST AND NATIONAL
@@Māori_proud_2_B EXACTALY
@@Māori_proud_2_B and @JessicaTahiwi WHAT CULTURE IS CALLED ACT, NZ FIRST AND NATIONAL?? YOU MISSED THE POIINT.
Time to get tough on those racists at Te Pati Maori
And the racists in government?
ACT and National have been race-bating against Māori for YEARS 😮
😂😂😂😂
@@percyharris5714 🤣🤣😂
if you think Te pati Moari is rasist, then you should take a long hard look at the people you are supporting through this comment.
@@JessicaTahiwi TAUTOKO, HE TIKA TAU, TAUTOKO
It's treason and i have been saying this for the last few days since i heard of Te Pati Maori's agenda.
Ardern and Hipkin et-al committed treason...This lot have committed open sedition - Take a look at the 'Crimes Act 1961 No 43'
Exactly 💯
In a democracy you are allowed to say stupid shit but that's all they have done. They haven't done anything
Have a look at a document called He Puapua. That will enlighten a few.
@@Jugsy77yes it Will
Why are we talking about this as though TPM is driving this? It's Stuff News and TVNZ that have been setting the stage for this for years...
Along with there one-eyed woke reporter’s.
They should vacate Parliament as they are in breach by been divisive calling for their supporters to follow them. They get no funding from the taxpayer because of their Treason. The Taxpayers of the country have done the best they can to fix all past grievances and are now second class citizens with all the perks that Maori have now. There are a few who want more and more that they will keep as they have always done, very little goes to the people that need it which is disgusting. Ask your leaders where is the money as they know where it is.
It’s wild how you can call a group 'divisive' while spitting out this kind of bigoted nonsense. If you think Māori are the ones creating division, maybe take a look in the mirror. The fact that you’re whining about 'second class citizens' when Māori have been fighting for basic rights and recognition is laughable. And as for 'treason'? That’s just you throwing out buzzwords because you have no real understanding of the history or the current situation
Well said AndrewJackson
@@Māori_proud_2_Byou didnt read all the previouswriters comments, youve taken bits from thier writing. The Taxpayer has already put in heaps of money to try and fix past grievances, and you all still think thats not enough. Stop living in the past and move forward.
So how will they fund their "Separatist" Government.
Iran!!!!
China, as has been the case for a while now.
By their % contribution of tax, going by Rawiri's % approach
I think they expect us to fund them. Thats where I draw the line.
They would have no idea, they don’t think that far ahead.
Hell yes.they corrupt and do nothing for moari
Just like national clown
spelling a problem ?, IQ low ? go to aussie
They’re getting there though what’s good for European has got to benefit Maui
What is the process for kicking them out of 'NZ' Parliament, who has to implement it, so we know who to approach Speaker of the House, Governor General, Prime Minister ?
In previous resignations they've had to give a writing letter to the speaker so yes I think Gerry might be the man regarding if they stay in parliament or not. But govt might have other related legal ramifications too from seditious actions. Be funny if Gerry came out publicly and just said he accepts the resignation of the whole party. I think we should expect an official government response soon.
It is the GG who must determine if oath of office are legitimate…it not then an election on the basis of compliance is the only pathway. All presuming that we want a representative democracy and an elected house of presentatives. If not, then King Charlie has to step aside.
The people of NZ that’s who, so we need to start lobbying the government to get this done.
Maori party should be removed.
No, No they provide some comedy in parliament, no body takes them for real!
Before even making this claim you should at least learn how to say the actual parties name. do you want to remove all parties with only maori in them so you can feel the white privilege coming back to you? or do you need more education to see the views on how maori are trying to take back what's theirs.
thats what we think of you
@@raymondlogan7807 yet you are shitting your pants - now thats funny
If they set up a government. The should have to pay back all the money from the settlements. It would put the country back in the black. How ironic that would be.
That’s a ridiculous and uninformed suggestion. The settlements were made to address historical injustices, not to be used as a bargaining chip for political games. Suggesting they should pay back funds just shows how little you understand about the purpose of these settlements. It’s ironic that you’d propose such an idea while completely ignoring the real issues at play. Instead of fantasizing about financial revenge, maybe educate yourself on why these settlements were necessary in the first place.
They can’t have it both ways. They either abide by their oath and do their job in parliament, or they resign (they should be dismissed) from parliament and FUND their own governance. No tax money, no Waitangi Tribunal bs. THEY and ‘their people’ can fund it
Woke and entitled.
Just like whites 😂
I just laugh at both sides, look at them both😂. Playing word games, cursing their own people, into this performance of dirty politics way of making a living. Extremists never win, WOKE & EXTREMISTS ENTITLEMENT is Sean's game. Or platforms 🎭 game
Bye bye 200k salaries! Bye bye 301million for the Te waiwera trust etc. Bye bye 500k salary..... soon stop all this separatist crap won't it
Why is the Te Pāti Māori so full of hate?? I shake my head in total disbelief!
Chip on the shoulder and they think the white man owes them
Because they think they have been hard done by😂, and because they think there’s a dollar in it.
Calling Te Pāti Māori 'full of hate' just because you disagree with their stance is a lazy way to dismiss their concerns. Their criticism comes from a place of addressing real issues and historical injustices, not from hate. If you’re shaking your head in disbelief, maybe it’s time to actually listen and understand the root of their message instead of blindly labeling it as hate. It’s much easier to criticize than to engage with the complex issues they’re tackling
Yes they have broken the allegiance so Ban Māori party from Parliament for this breach. ONE NEW ZEALAND, ONE PEOPLE
Absolutely. They are a disgrace. Why should the taxpayer pay their salaries if tbey hate the parliamentary system and wish to over throw it.
Why should tax payers pay the salary of Shane Jones when he is taking donations from mining companies so he can destroy this planet? There’s gonna be nothing left for younger people, but he won’t be around to have to deal with the impacts of his corruption and greed. More happy for my tax payer money to go towards a second parliament then I am it going towards the destruction of this planet.
The Maori Party should start their own Parliament it'd be hilarious. Funds will go missing and they'll be begging taxpayers for more money 🤣
They'll spend lots of money on flash cars, food, and travel, but would be totally incompetent.
You forgot beer and dope@schlookie
yup I would watch their Parliamentary Tv comedy gold
@terryopines8001 I've spent a lot of time living and working in PNG. Beautiful country with lots of potential, and the vast majority of the local people I came across were decent kind people. However PNG is exactly what NZ will become like under any form of maori control. Hence we must fight with all our might.
@@schlookie You forgot designer underpants‼
They should be brought before the courts and suspended from parliament. Heinous inappropriate members of the house.
I was fortunate enough to spend Friday night at a table with 4 Maori gentleman at the local RSA. I never said a word for ages, i just listened. All they had to say was that the Maori Party were completely nuts, and that they didn't represent them in any way whatsoever.
Most Maori would agree with those men. Halfwiti appeals to the historically ignorant, separatists, Marxists and gang members. Not the hardworking taxpaying Maori who don’t hang around Marae’s navel gazing and on the grift.
RSA says it all...those Maori arent gonna tell the truth there- thats whities pub and you know it
Maori just one more reason why people are leaving this country in droves and these are people we can't afford to lose.
YES I'M ONE OF THEM A LOT BETTER
I would say all this maori crap is the main reason people are leaving NZ. They can see the writing on the wall. The next south africa......
@@eileendover2468 Yes we would have left if Labour had won last election. Country infrastructure is falling apart while billions have been wasted on hand outs in the past. When you arrive here from overseas Everywhere seems so scruffy and run down. Auck CBD is an absolute mess. Had to call for an ambulance last week for an incident near the wharf and none were available, hospital less than 5km away. Eventually a fire engine showed up that looked as if it had come from MOTAT.
Listen to all you small minded, racist, privileged jobs that can't stand the fact that the true history stories are coming back to bite yous! Your Tipunas started this, ours will finish it, just keep hiding ya no rahos
I’m a Māori 56yrs old .
I live on the Gold Coast like a lot of us. I arrived in Australia 2006. I left for a better life more opportunity. I suspect that perhaps this is the reason people are leaving NZ.
With less than 5% of the vote, Tea Party Maori should not be in Parliament.
MMP. They won their seats fair and square.
They won their electorate seats fairly squarely and democratically. Do you only like democracy when it suits you?
@@johnmartin7158 Just checked and Tea Party Maori got 3.08% of the vote whereas NZ First got 6.08%, ACT 8.64% and TOP 2.2%. Tea Party got 6 MPs NZ First 8, ACT 9 and TOP zero MPs . So nowhere near proportional representation! Poor old TOP! What an unfair system!
@@IanG2120 Just checked and Tea Party Maori got 3.08% of the vote whereas NZ First got 6.08%, ACT 8.64% and TOP 2.2%. Tea Party got 6 MPs NZ First 8, ACT 9 and TOP zero MPs . So nowhere near proportional representation! Poor old TOP! What an unfair system! Certainly does not suit me!
@@njd2342 It’s not a pure proportional representation, as the name suggests it’s MMP. basically a combination. Anyway if NZ 1st or Act had those numbers, more than likely you would have said nothing but because Maori did you feel compelled to say something.
What is the legal position on this now, can the Speaker/Governor General remove them from Parliament. It would be interesting to hear from the truly knowledgeable on this, in particular what course of action can be brought against them now...
Very few voted for them and they do not represent maori or anyone else.....let them set up a govt and don't give them any coverage or funds and watch it fall within a few months
We are heading down the same road that South Africa it's called APARTHEID!!!!!!! Look at the mess that country is in and especially their race relations
Ours ain't a whole lot better if you look around.
Surprise! Surprise ! Anyone who couldn't see this coming needs to stop living in La La Land. I'm with you Sean. No taxpayer funding and get out of parliament. What is it? 27 Maori members at the mo? Hardly under represented !
I sore it 40 years ago, but everyone just said I was exaggerating.
@@olliemoose2020 sore its saw I'm in high school, and English isn't even my first language-Māori is-and yet I speak better English than you. How old are you, 67? Go back to your bingo and pudding, old man. Tell your nurse you need more meds. What old home are you at? Heaven's waiting room?"
Absolutely. My thoughts exactly. Lets start a petition to follow democracy
The Maori seats should be removed. It is racist to have dedicated Maori seats.
I feel sorry for the fools who support TPM. They have been lied to and manipulated.
I don't think they are fools. They know EXACTLY what they voted for! TPM is all guns blazing, they don't exactly do smoke and mirrors with what they are about.
Excellent. They should have the honesty and mana to do exactly that: resign from their seats and leave Parliament. BUT the Maori seats should be abolished.
And this is exactly why we don’t want Māori ward’s, if this isn’t a warning I don’t know what is.
Totally agree with you Shaun. They have committed treason and should be banned from Parliament until they withdraw their actions and apologise
Sean.
Also agree. They should be charged with Insurrection. They are stirring a pot that needs no more stirring at present. The guy with the hat should also be forbidden from wearing such Hat as it is to me, giving our Parliament "The Finger" I would not go on a Marae and disrespect to them the way he does to us. No one seems to have the BALLS to get the Hat gone!!
@@johnriley-oq9he There is a large difference between a Marae and the Parliamentary Place. The Marae is a sacred spot. and you insulting that is absurd. Parliament has never been up to Maori needs. With Maori having to pay more, or it being hard for them to find jobs because the white man has always been a leader. It wasn't hard for the Queen to admit she was sorry for the wrongs of Britain so why is it hard for you? Parliament never listens to pupils needs unless it is something to give them more privilege or money. And you guys still complain about your rights when you still have more than Maori as it goes to say. Do not comment about having 'balls' to get them gone. When having the Maori kicked out would cause much more riot and racist accusations that you will be apart of.
So now we're throwing around accusations of 'treason' like it’s a casual term? What’s actually treasonous is dismissing an entire group’s right to be heard because it doesn’t fit your narrow view. Māori, like anyone else, have every right to be represented and fight for their communities. Maybe instead of demanding apologies, you should focus on educating yourself about the actual issues.
What is the gov general and the speaker doing about this?!?! Do something!!! 😤
Funded by the Iwi's, Te Pati, Greens and Labour. I hope, not the New Zealand Taxpayers
The ones you mention are all paid by us.
Iwi = I want it
What astounded me was the unbelievable ignorance that the Maori Party leadership demonstrated around the budget and how services are funded. I was embarrassed for the Party in terms of what it revealed in terms of its total inability to govern or even understand the workings of government.
Totally agree, let's see if there's any reaction from the coalition goverment.
There is no process to create a separate Parliament. How can TMP invoke it or begin it? Nonsense. If they want to try and found another one they should be suspended from this one. Goodbye and good riddance.
I agree totally. Expel them from the only legitimate parliament, cease paying them and remove their privileges. Declare their seats to be vacant and, since they have proven that they will not honour their oath, disqualify them from standing in the subsequent by-elections.
I wonder what Luxon this of his partnership idea now
David Lange and other said there can be no partnership in a parliamentary democracy
The word partnership is not in the Treaty, at all.
Partnership wasn't Luxon's idea. It was first introduced by the Waitangi Tribunal in 1987. But you're right - there can be only one sun in the sky - not two.
If we have a Maori Parliment who is going to finance it? We cannot afford two parliaments with a 5 million population. Crazy!
No one will fund this bs😂
A 90% tax on everyone on the Māori electoral roll. Obviously, judging by the number of te Patty moron who got into parliament many on the Māori roll would happily do so.
They want the so called white supremacist racist pakia people of New Zealand to find them what's Too faced about that
Yes ban them.
Yes with out a dought they are a disgrace to parliament
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR MUM, YOUR DAD, TO YOUR SISTER, TO YOUR BROTHER, TO YOUR YEAR ONE TEACHER, TO ANYONE WHO HAS EVERY LOOKED AT YOUR FACE, AND IF YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND OR SIGNIFICANT OTHER, THEY IS SLEEPING WITH YOUR PARENTS AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY HATES YOU, YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO YOU POSTED THAT F******G COMMENT, IF YOU HATE US THIS MUCH MOVE.
Do you have a valid reason to ban them? Do you think getting rid of Maori culture is okay for your privileged self? Consider all that Maori had to go through just for them to not be accepted in today's' monarchy. Your guardians should be ashamed to raise you. The people you grown up with should be ashamed to be seen with you after this comment. Why don't you speak your thoughts with all Maori and see how they think. You will get crushed with the way you think things. It is unbelievable you can even comment this.
@@KenCrawford-n5k How the hell are they a disgrace to parliament? they are the natives of New Zealand, and to this day are people trying to take that away. The English would never admit to what they've done but cause more of a mess from when they first came here. It is because of Europeans Maori have never learnt to uphold their culture and have the opportunity to live in a free country. But yet Pakeha pretend to their faces that they appreciate the culture. But it's all a manipulation trick to bring them back to when their land was taken. They have still not given it back but instead Europeans made this the 'New Britain' it is disgusting how you feel they are a disgrace when it is just you.
You should get educated.
@@5xff1rx Dont you think its time to move forward and stop living in the past?
It's ironic they were bandying around pictures of guns on their propaganda posters. The old musket is iconic of colonization. I suppose it epitomizes their ethos of take, take, take. PS: i have maori heritage and we don't appreciate the undemocratic maori party undermining all the good maori people out there
imagine the infighting of the separatist government?? it would be iwi versus iwi!!
Back like old times before their precious treaty. It's hilarious.
@@jobird354 exactly, just what I was thinking.
@@jobird354 Queen Victoria was Deceived.'
What's on the menu tonight dad?
@@jobird354 yes the treaty is precious because of the fact they used to fight to regain mana and utu. you sound so uneducated using that and maybe you should go back to preschool to figure out what would happen today if they treaty was never signed. and even then the Europeans used it to try bribe them into signing they didn't know they were signing to.
I think the only thing saving the Maori Party is the fact that no one takes the bunch of clowns seriously.
Unfortunately the world is full of fools gaining headlines.
The taxpayer is once again being milked by the clowns that MMP has installed in our Parliament, who are the real clowns we are too small a country to have so many clowns on the payroll. Time for a bigger change.
PM needs to be tough.. unfortunately dont think he is
And the speaker too.
He's too scared.
He letting Winston and Shane do it...
Outstanding.. you've nailed it..
Bann them
Race based parties should not be allowed
Excuse you but are you forgetting about national. You seem like the person to vote for them but yet they believe in their white privilege and you guys are just following like sheep
Where are they getting yhe f..cking money from.. us white folks.
Tainui have billions get it from them
@@helenlizzystewart4908Maori tribal radical elite are worth over 70 Billion. Wonder who gets most of that. The John Tamaheres of this world. Over $500thousand per annum. Didn't he rip the waipawera trust off for thousands years ago, over 300,000, or was that just some lie. What about the nearly $200,000 for each TPM mp in the house. Just get rid of the racist Facist Aholes.
They are getting it from everyone in this country paying tax. But they only spend it on themselves and their agenda.
From Adhern via Soros ???
So from I can gather only white people pay tax? That's a very racist thing to say regardless of the circumstances
I totally agree, they wouldn't have what they've got now if it wasn't for the the tax payers of this country. They are a disgrace , we are one people. Here in NZ they'll soon miss the salary they're that full of themselves they don't have any loyalty to our Office
You are kidding right....ā Pākehā who works for the Tribunal just reported that what the government owes Māori for stolen land has the power to bankrupt the country 10x over....For instance the government gave Waikato 170 million for illegally confiscated land that's worth 12 billion. Your lucky that Waikato and the other iwi settled at a lower figure and you say were greedy!!lol
To put that in context...Your paying more tax to landlords alone than to Māori lol
Take just about any speech by Te Pati Maori, switch the word "Maori" to "White" and you'll have yourself a "terrorist organization" according to the government.
Funny how there's one set of rules for one group, and s different set of rules for another group.
Cry me an ocean looser
So agree with you, Sean, they should be kicked out of Parliament....their behaviour is disgusting..!!
You commenting this is disgusting. Do you ever complain about how the Pakeha are trying to take Maori rights again or are you implying that they're so great and fantastic because you're to busy worried about the colour of skin rather than what's really going on. Right now National is trying to take Maori rights away again and it is unbelievable how you think Te Pati Maori is the problem. Nationals behaviour is disgusting yet I see nobody complaining about how they're running things.
jailed....recover all monies and assets.....back to the nz public.
They're acting contrary to and not in the interests of the majority of NZer's. They are a declared(by themselves) a racist Party acting only for the supposed representation of some maori. Boot them out of Parliament and take away the benefits and responsibilities that go with that as a Party and MPs.
What benefits? Pls let us Maori know?
@@Bellxkingyou've heard of parliamentary expenses right, travel accommodation etc
@@Bellxking What do you think MPs get by way of freebies? If you voted for TPM I feel sorry for you because there is nothing that that Party will do for maori people as a whole.
How do they get away with it?
Their salaries should be stopped too.
Will the fund their own tax and welfare systems
They all should be band from parliament now. And their pay and expenses stopped imedeatly.. they are not contributing to the country..
Maori are the country hello!!
@@Bellxking You need help love!
@@Bellxking 😂😂😂 you really have got the brains of a potato LOL
@@onepup-pr3yl what it’s true! Maori are what make this country unique and special!!
Ban the cheaty