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Festool Kapex KS60 review, and how to make it better!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มี.ค. 2021
- This review is about the Festool Kapex KS60. I try to address other points you normally see on reviews. When you are interested in the Zero Clearance insert, visit my site hookedonwood.o...
Subjects I discuss:
Accuracy, Dust extraction, Dado Cuts, Place in workflow
And how to make it even better!
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As someone who is in the process of building their own “black box” workshop in the garden, I would definitely enjoy seeing your build.
As somebody who would like to build their own shop, I am really looking forward to videos about your dream shop!
Construction is more or less the same regardless of a buildings purpose; what I would be most interested seeing videos about the planning and design process, like what design choices you made and why, laying out tools for efficient workflows, planning drops for power, dust, air, HVAC, etc., lessons learned when you're done, that sort of stuff.
A series covering the setup of your new workshop would be incredibly useful and interesting. Personally I would love to see you cover your thought processes around workshop layout and process flow, dust extraction and ducting, lighting, electrical point positioning especially for centre island style tools. Really enjoy your videos and find them extremely useful and informative. Keep up the great work!!
The more I read and see about the Kapex saws the more I think the price is justified. Everytime a new mitre saw comes out you ask yourself "but is it Kapex good?" So even after all these years it's still the benchmark for mobile mitre saws. This plus it's made in Germany which alone raises the cost without bringing any additional value to the table makes it more expensive. Over the years I just enjoyed working with good tools and it's hard to put a price tag on enjoying working with a good tool. After all it's a hobby for me and as we all know there are no price limits. 😂
Great review on the KS 60. I’ve recently bought one, and I noticed your zero clearance fence in the other video. An extremely clean and effective solution. I’ll certainly consider buying from you if you put them up for sale, as opposed to making my own. As your other reviews and videos, it is easy to tell your professionalism and enthusiasm. We’ll all be coloured and slightly biased from time to time, but here on YT I feel I can rely on very, very few. You’re among the very best, keep it up! Always looking forwards to your videos.
Zero clearance won't last for long. Just use the right and sharp blade. You never found zero clearance solllutions in professionel circumstances.
@@rutgerbroekman3026 You’re right about that. I bought Dennis’ ZC insert. It is very well thought out and well made. However, it interferes as with most other saws; with clamping, accessories like the Festool wings too. Every ZC fence brings the fence forward, and this throws these vital accessories out of order. I’ve a KS 120 too, which I made my own ZC fence for. I ended up dismantling it after a few cuts.
So, absolutely; a sharp blade, good technique and a very slow feed rate; despite a sharp blade! gets the results you say.
For cutting small pieces, a “sled” placed on the bed secured only with clamps is probably a better option for me.
A series about the new workshop would be amazing, hard to specify what you should focus on though. I think I'd love to see as much as humanly possible, haha. Thanks for the useful video as always!
😃😃
Agreed! 👌 👍
As someone that works in my garage (like many others), it is a dream of mine to have a purpose build workshop. Really looking forward to your build.
Me too
I would love a video of the planning, layout, cost, what stuff you had to go through coming up with the final selection, dust extraction planning, and I know you will think of every little detail that is why I love your videos you look at everything on how to improve it until it’s at the most optimized version
I’d love to see videos about your dream workshop. Congratulations! I’m 45, just moved and will be here for a long time perhaps not getting to build my dream workshop. My workshop space is 11.5 x 11.5 feet (3.5 x 3.5 m). I have to be creative as possible and will be limited on the tools I can fit. Seeing your small space solutions overtime has been very inspiring. I’d love to see more of your organization and space smart designs. I’m currently putting together a French cleat wall and have my power tools on mobile carts. Wish we were neighbors because I bet we could have some fun.
Dennis, Love your videos past and present. I find myself going back and watching your older vidoes that I missed on certain subjects like this one. I really enjoy the way you present the subject and the options you present within your presentation. Thanks for taking the time to show us your shop and workflow. I am very impressed with the new shop and will be implementing many of your ideas in my own shop as time and shop budget will allow. As we all know, none of this is inexpensive. Thanks again.
A series about the new workshop would be amazing.
One of THE best video's about this saw. What I absolutely love is the possibility to cut a height of 73mm. Luckily I found that out before buying a far more expensive 88 version.
How: set the depth stop so the saw JUST cuts through the wood and position the wood 30mm to the front and voila.
Yes, I would be interested in seeing your new workshop build.
I would love to see the whole process over many episodes. If you did 20 episodes of China tools, then you could make 100 for the workshop. I think it would give many people ideas on how to start from scratch. Thanks for the great work!
Thanks Peter, the comments on this subject give me some direction. I will see how that work out.
Love the review. I have had mine for a couple of years and found exactly what you did. I changed to festools 36mm hose as I too was disappointed at dust collection and did make a difference as I use in customer homes but as you say on thin pieces it can't catch it all and it still makes a mess. First day on job I did cut into fence on angle cut as I too do not read instructions and just put it to work 🤦. I have broken couple of inserts as on thin cuts the offcut slips into large groove and the saw blade catches it and timber fly's off at speed.I was doing alot of flooring and this is what they designed the saw for mostly and to be light and used on floor hence the non marking feet and a sys one to be exact height to use as extensions, this makes the handle feel right at that height. Will be looking at buying your fence guide and would be interested if you make a insert for sale. Keep up the great work.
Ahh! If only I’d seen this video in time. I would have absolutely bought the zero clearance insert & fence! If you ever think about making them again I’d absolutely buy one. And another one for my friend! 🤞🤞
Great saw especially th-cam.com/users/postUgkxxnKxcY0vm4xjW8xkPbjaHuKt10gr-wG_ considering how drastically cheaper it is than every other track saw on the market. Only things I would mention is replace the blade immediately, the 24 tooth blade supplied leaves a lot to be desired.
I've watched this video before and have to say your fence and its zero clearance insert are things of beauty.
I just used my new Kapex for the first time this week. I think it is great. Mine has a dual laser. It is a KS 120 REB. You input was helpful. Especially the dust extraction and zero clearance fence.
A video/series about the design process and layout of your new workshop would be great, Dennis - I would thoroughly enjoy that.
I would love to see the build process and machine layout. TY for another super vid.
I went to Hornbach today and saw that Bosh and Makita are now using the same handle design as festool, with the handle being inline with the blade for stability and accuracy reasons (according to the sales rep).
That is great. Safes space
Fantastic video Dennis. Love the design of the new shop and would enjoy seeing your design and build. It would be nice for us viewers in the USA to see how construction is done in your home country and how the permit process works. You would do a great job hosting a series about your homeland, it’s history and it’s progress. Thanks for all your work making this. Nice to see a good guy monetize their work and share your creativity.
Dennis 100% yes to series, you will not go wrong with "dream workshop series".
As for suggestions: I would be very interested in continental/Dutch/Your way of building so complete series from ground works and foundations to finished roof would work great for me😁... with everything in between of course like framing or bricklaying, insulation, fasade/cladding, flooring, door hanging, interior fitout etc.
I can imagine that takes time so whatever you manage to produce will be great regardless. Maybe a cameraman to help you out as I can imagine you will be project managing and working on it too.
Nice kapex review, thanks.
Great video! I've recently purchased a Hikkoki mitre saw and was extremely disappointed with the build quality (I did expect this for the price) but what I couldn't live with was how inaccurate it was. I need accurate 90 degree cross cuts and 45 degres mitres. This video has persuaded me that the KS60 is the mitre saw for me!
Dennis, ik wil alles zien mbt de bouw van je nieuwe werkplaats. Zowel de bouw zelf als de inrichting van de diverse tools. Ik weet niet of je de huidige werkplaats gaat afbreken of dat de nieuwe gekoppeld gaat worden aan de huidige. Maar ik vind jouw uitleg en wijze waarop je de informatie in beeld brengt geweldig.
Eigenlijk net zo kwalitatief als je werkstukken en jouw gereedschap vergelijkingen. Ga zo door.
Dennis, I want to see everything related to the construction of your new workshop. Both the construction itself and the layout of the various tools. I don't know if you are going to tear down the current workshop or if the new one will be linked to the current one. But I think your explanation and the way in which you visualize the information is great. Actually just as qualitative as your workpieces and your tool comparisons. Keep it up.
Very professionell and focused on every detail, thx. Can´t wait for the buildup of you´re workshop!
I've always enjoyed your videos so of course a series about you new shop would be very welcome.
From the brief glimpse you showed us there didn't seem to be any roof lights, I would certainly recommend that you design some in, natural light is great to work in!
Good point. I did not think about that. But for video shooting you do not want change in light conditions because of the Sun. So when the sun is shining. I have to block my windows. But otherwise, i agree with you. I have almost always the studio lights on because it is very nice to work with good lighting.
Great video Dennis. I have the same saw with the UG stand and wings. Fantastic piece of kit. Just wish I could buy your fence system and zero clearance plate, but us silly folk in the UK did something that makes this not possible at the moment 🙁
Sorry, Perhaps not impossible, but very hard. And not worth the administration when you only sell a few products. Sorry!
Dennis,
Ook erg geïnteresseerd in een mooie serie over jou nieuwe werkplaats! Van tekening tot ingericht.
Zet hem op!!!!!
Nice review. Thank you.
I'd also appreciate any postings about your new workshop.
I'll make a few of these modifications to my kapex too.
New Shop - The Complete Build if possible Dennis?, starting from day one ground breaking and a look over the plans you are about to start. Thanx Steve
Great video. I also have a KS60 and want to want people ...when cutting bevels, the bolt in the turn knob cross - threads really easily if overtightened. It happened on mine and was a nightmare, had to chisel out the plastic to be able to use saw again. Festool said it was quite a common issue.
Good to mention that. I did not know, so I will be careful. Better safe than sorry.
Dennis, it would be great if you could show us all the design and construction process of your shop. That render looks awesome! Cheers.
Forgetting to move the top fence when mitring!!!!!!! My Bosch has the same type of system and the first time I used it, I forgot to move it. The noise of the saw blade hitting the fence was awful but, fortunately, the only damage was to the fence and my nerves. I remember to adjust the fence now! 😀
I had the exact same experience. I only hit a tiny bit, but I was really surprised in that this was possible.
Will not happen again. :-)
Dennis great looking workshop rendering, any videos about the new shop journey will be greatfull received here .
I went for the makita Dennis, huge capacity, excellent extraction and absolutely bang on out of the box. Same capacity as the biggest Kapex but half the price
I agree, it was on my shortlist. But, again, dust control, and I think the Festool made of even higher quality.
Steve what Makita are you referring to? Been looking at the LS1018LN myself.? Cheers
Another great video, clear, precise and very well presented. Love to see a new workshop series.👍 thanks.
"A guy like me that does not read the manual" Is there some other type of guy???? LOL
😂😂
What is a manual? LoL
Please do a series on your ideas for and construction of your dream shop!
About the handle pull. Don't stick your fingers inside the handle from the start. Instead, start the pull with fingers outside the handle. This lets you put the hand further up and without bending your wrist. As the saw moves down slide your fingers around and inside the handle to reach the trigger. Easy peasy.
I understand. Great tip😀💪
I'm excited to see you build your dream work shop. I enjoy all of your videos.
Since you are a guy who likes to figure out clever solutions, with excellent fingerspitzgefühl, I believe a series on the construction of your new workshop would be very worthwhile watching indeed. Maybe not so much focus on the construction of the building shell, instead try to dive into your specialties. Planning for workflow, planning for dust extraction, ventilation, lightning, storage et c.
I would enjoy a series about your new workshop.
Hi Denis. I also had a look at the specs on the cut depts for the Kapex 60 vs the 120 after your video and I was very surprised so see how little they differ. For instance 90 deg cut on the Kapex 120 is 305mm x 88mm and on the Kapex 60 it is 305 x 60mm. Its a mere 2.8 cm difference for almost double the price.
I just though off the cuff the cut difference would be much bigger. To my surprise is practically very little.
So I agree with you I cannot justify the bigger price tag for the bigger machine with such little practical difference.
Great work all around. I have watched almost all your videos and I've learn so much.
I've even watched your first videos in Dutch and enjoyed it, cause I could understand most of what you said, as my home language is Afrikaans which originates from Dutch.
Greetings from South Africa.
Thanks Corne,
I think the 60 is perfect. Good choice!
All the best,
Dennis
28mm may not sound like much to you but it works out to be a about 47% more vertical capacity which is significant to many.
Dennis, thanks for another great review. I am having a garage suite built starting next month and am very much looking forward to your videos on the benches and layout and the various decisions you make as you design your shop. Like you I have a lot of ideas, but your experience often comes up with even better ideas! I also have to have some built in flexibility as I still need to park cars in my workshop.
Personally I cannot justify the cost for the Kapex yet - maybe one day. I keep hoping Bosch will improve their mitre saw's dust extraction and add an LED for a blade shadow line as it seems to be the only other decent mitre saw that does not require a lot of space at the back. I know Makita makes one too but it does not seem to get very good reviews.
My former miter saw was a DeWalt, but it was certainly not this sturdy. Wood is luckily very forgiving. But I find it so satisfying when things fits without too many corrections. Best of luck with your garage.
@@HookedonWood It seems only the KS 120 is available in Canada for $1995 CAD. KS 60 does not seem to be an option here.
Weer een hele goede video al ben ik al 2 jaar in bezit van mijn kapex 60
Toch weer een paar hele handige tips
Dankje dennis 👍🏼
Pretty impressive little tool, Dennis! 😃
Congrats!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Quite a helpful video compared to others on the same topic - thank you kindly.
Id really enjoy seeing the shop build.
Ah. The manual. Believe or not, I am one that enjoys reading manuals. The saw is VERY nice. I agree with your vacuum system. Like a chimney, it has to be sized correctly, mmmm
Yes, would like very much to see a new wood shop. How you organize etc. what are your thoughts on radial arm saws? If someone is just starting out to build up their shop I find them to be very versatile. Appreciate any feedback
Please share everything you can through the entire process.
Dennis, this is a great video, as usual I learned a lot from your insights. Love to see you do the same kind of video for your Harvey Alpha HW110LC-36 table saw. I can find no reviews of this product anywhere. A lot of unpacking but no deep insight and analysis of the product, so no way to get a sense of whether it’s good or not. Because there’s nothing out there, I’m sure you’d get lots of views and likely a bunch of new subscribers. I look forward to what you might do. Thanks again for all your hard work.
I plan to do that at least this year
@@HookedonWood Great to hear!
i would like to know how do you plan the shop layout in the computer. Great video as always!
Workshop building videos? Yes please!!!👍😊
Hi Dennis - great video as always. Neither the room, nor the money for a C60 though :) I'd love to hear of your new shop. Who's designed it, construction methods, layout, time-frame, what new plans do you have since investing in such a beauty., is it located on your lot near your house. And of course, if not too personal, approximate cost of such a build. 60 square metres is quiete big for us in Europe. Looking forward to the next vid's. BR Claus
Super weer Dennis! Ik heb meteen het contact formulier ingevuld voor een set zero insert👍
Nice video Dennis. I think Festool is top of my mitre saw list for purchase
First thumb up - than look the video ;-) and i would LOVE to see the video's from the new workshop ! Kind regards from germany
Excellent video Maneer, I have the ks120 but watched it anyway, outstanding English too.
Its a shame you dont have a Kapex 120 REB like most Kapex owners in the USA. Id love one of your sliding dovetail fences for that saw! Perhaps when you upgrade your shop you will upgrade your Kapex at the same time! By the way, I appreciate the look of that black MDF. I know you can buy it here in the states, but its very difficult to source it locally.
Een goed en eerlijke review. De ideeën voor spintervrij zagen heb ik ook in mijn Makita ingebouwd. Voor de vertikale aanslag heb ik 8mm trespa gebruikt omdat dat vervormingsvrijer, gladder en sterker is. Maar voor de horizontale strook heb ik stevig berkenplex gebruikt. Ook heb ik een ander zaagblad erbij voor aluminium en trespa. Dit is een 60tands "vlak/daktand" zaag die ik ook in mijn invalzaag gebruik. Bij Ecotools zijn deze zaagbladen heel schappelijk geprijsd. Voor speciaal hout (Am. noten, Wengé, en andere exoten) gebruik ik een 100 tands blad voor een superfijne finnish. De Makita is niet zo geweldig qua afzuiging, maar ik zet toch altijd een stofmasker op bij het zagen en frezen. Om de stofzuiger en/of machines te bedienen heb ik een op afstand bedienbare stopkontankt (Lidl, Gamma etc.). Bedankt voor je review en succes met je mooie plannen!
Besankt voor je info. Klinkt goed😀
Looking forward to your new shop 🇨🇦
Unfortunately, you skipped something I really want to know. What fitting did you use to connect to the larger hose. I want to connect mine to 2 1/2" hose, In the US, the fittings are 1 1/4 ID. Too small for this.
dag Dennis fantastische review
ik ben opzoek naar een afkortzaag om mijn huis te verbouwen en zelf meubels te maken
ik heb veel ervaring met de kapex 88 alleen viel mij op dat de geleide stangen soms in de weg zaten bij het zagen van grotere balken onder een hoek.
heb jij dit probleem ook ondervonden ik ben zeer benieuwd omdat er heel veel afkortzagen zijn en elk merk wel zijn min en pluspunten heeft.
dus ik vroeg mij af wat jij aanraadt want ik zie door de bomen het bos niet meer.
Excellent review, thank you.
Hello Dennis. Excellent review. Thank you.
Dear kind Sir, I am so pleased that you now are having a new large workshop. If any one deserves this; it has to be you. Thank you for what you have done for us. May Jesus bless you and yours always dear friend. I would be honored to meet you.
Thanks Pat!
I wish festool would release the KS60 to the US market.
Awesome review and possibly the best online. That fence is top notch and festool should be looking at doing that sort of thing for the money.
I have the 120 so can’t enjoy that brilliant design fence.
I tried to find how to buy the zero-clearance fence on your site. But, I could not find it for sale. Could you please post a link to it?
I love my kapex had mine about the same time as yours. I have to admit the handle does take some getting used to and think i do prefer a normal mitre saw handle instead
I agree :-)
Bosch 12” is the best in my opinion & just build a simple dust box around the back of any saw to keep it clean
I did consider the Bosch😀
Fantastic video. As you, I was a bit underwhelmed with the KS60 in terms of extraction, even though it is much better than my previous saw. I now understand why they make cuts in thick wood - seems reasonable.
I want to experiment with different hoses. What dimension of hose did you use in the end?
Thank you Dennis for all great videos. I have the Kapex KS60 but miss the workpiece Clamp KL-KS that you can buy for the bigger models. I notice you have some kind of quick release clamp on the right. What clamp is that? Is it a solution that works fine and that you would like to share? Thanks!
Did you get an answer about this?
Not yet.😉
I use a hold down clamp from Bessey. I have a link in the description. (I believe) when you have place for it, I consider it more practical then the Festool clamp. But the solution in this video is not perfect. There os some flex that I do not like. I have a better solution nowadays with these clamps
👍🙏
Good morning Dennis, after your review I decided to buy KS 60 and I'm really happy with it!
About the vacuum pipe you adapted instead of Festool vacuum system, how can it guarantee a perfect sealing on the small teeth at 120 degrees?
Thanks a lot in advance.
Emanuele
Thanks for the review Denis.
I also purchased the KS60 and had the same experience with the dust extraction. I have a 60mm hose to the bench surface from the a CT15 under in the bench to maximixe the airflow but have a 27mm from there to the saw but have been looking for a better solution. I like you idea to place the 45 deg elbow on the KS60 dust port and connect the hose outside that.
Could you let me know what diameter the 45 elbow is (ID or OD) and where you got the hose. It looks like it's ~ 50mm (ID). Thanks again
Would really like to have your fence and insert, but I see you don't ship to UK. Would you consider selling the plans for them instead?
Can you do a video on fine tuning the bevel and mitre stops? I can't find anything on the internet about this topic.
Pls make video of your dust extraction
Hi Dennis
Excellent video. I really like your thorough reviews! And also your attention to upgrades. Your remark on adjustment on the fence with the miter cuts really made me smile. Been there and done that on my metabo 😬. Regarding your new shed. Really looking forward to all aspects of your building proces. I am planning on myself. So i am really interested in you design considerations and how you go about the workflow layout.
Also i was wondering if you had any plans or videos on your sliding tv cabinet. You showed some pictures during some of you videos and i loved that design. I was thinking of building something simular. And any help on this is really helpful.
Blijf vooral doorgaan! En veel succes met je bouwproject
Regards
Remond
Thanks Remond! Ik ga er iets leuks can maken😀
Excellent, as always! Thank you.
excellent video. what diameter do you have on your dust extractor tube ?
Great review as always.
Great vid. Thanx. I have similar expirience of universal blade, tried more fine blade without noticing any difference. I'll try the a hose with bigger diameter for less dust. What clamps do you use on ks60 and are they built in somehow?
I pulling my hair out as I cant decide between the KS60E or the Makita LS002 40v.
Good job Dennis..
If you ever needed to carry around your mitersaw, you will appreciate a KS60. :) unbeatable in the performance per kg ratio in my opinion. So it is basically a sports car. And for a sports car, it is really cheap. 😂
I agree. :-) 😂😂
Hallo Dennis. Super om te zien hoe je alles hebt aangepast tot nog een grotere topper van een machine. Ik heb sinds kort de kapex 120. En Idd wat jij zegt met de afzuiging valt mij nu wat tegen. Wat voor maat pvc Bocht en slang heb jij er nu op gezet zodat dat beter is geworden? Mvg Sven
Hi Dennis! Great video again! As usual :) is there also gonna be a China tools episode with the honing jig you see in your cabinet at 0:14? (the black sliding one)
Hi Jorrit, You are a man of details. :-) very sharp! Yes, I plan this also in the near future. Some things I like, some things I do not. But I want to discuss with someone who is more into this sharpening if he agrees with mee, or I have to change the angle from which I look to it. But I did not find the time to do so. Will be continue.
@@HookedonWood I already had my eye on this sharpening jig, but I wondered "What would Dennis think of this" as our China Tool expert ;) I dind't want to push you to buy it to review it. But as you already have it, I was curious :) But I'll be patient, will be looking forward to any future info.
the light is a big con, i have the same problem with my 120 and it's nuts - it's one of those small things that build the festool brand and yet they've completly cocked it up. my TS55 is perfect in terms of design and while i'd like the bigger capacity or the HK rail from time to time you see what you've paid for every time you use it. Kapex on the other hand is really good and precise tool, but it's design is quite strange. In my saw for example the dado function only goes trough certain height and quite often can't handle depth that you need. also switch is hidden and it's really easy to forget which mode are you right now. strange if you compare it to tools like domino, cxs or rotex which are bang on in terms of ergonomics.
Are you still selling the zero clearance set for KS60 ?
Shame you never included what vacuum you was using to suck the dust from the saw ?
I will in next episode. Probably this Friday or next Wednesday 😀
An excellent review as per usual.
You mentioned your choice of Freud blade. What model are you using?
I have an old Hitachi 250mm sliding mitre saw. The only thing that I do not like is the just extraction. I have modified the dust port to accept my shop vac. It works ok but not perfect. The testing that you have done on the Capex's dust extraction, although interesting, appeared to be a bit hurried.
The Capex is definitely eye wateringly expensive. I rather look to spend the extra money on more dust extraction (floor or ceiling level).
I agree on the price. I had a hard time spending that money on a miter saw. I did not feel that with my planer/jointer although that cost almost 4 times more. I just think it is very expensive for a miter saw. But, it delivers, so that is good.
Sorry to do it too fast. I want to de an episode about my dust extraction in the future. If I showed too much that would have created more questions than answers on this moment.
@@HookedonWood Thank you for your reply. Your research is always excellent and much appreciated. Looking forward to your forthcoming video about dust extraction.
Could you please answer my question about the Freud blade?
Hallo Dennis,
Met veel interesse volg ik je “hooked on wood” en ben erg geïnspireerd door jouw oplossingen en de reviews die je maakt van Banggood, top en erg gedetailleerd!
Naast dit compliment wil
Ik vragen offerte aanpassing die je aanbiedt voor de Festool Kapex 60 ook geschikt zou kunnen zijn (met evt. aanpassingen) voor mijn Kapex 120?
Ik zie je reactie met belangstelling tegemoet. Groet; amateur houtbewerken uit Ede.
hoi dennis, top video.
Ik heb ook een kapex 60 maar heb er een probleem mee. Als ik de hoek heb versteld is het ontzettend lastig om de fence weer 90 haaks op het zaag blad te krijgen. Of wel als ik een plank tegen de fence leg en 90 graden wil zagen is hij elke keer iets verlopen. ook vraag ik me af of er een juiste zaag techniek is want dat lijkt ook invloed te hebben. Zoals je al zei kan je de zaag van Li naar Re bewegen als hij helemaal is uitgeschoven. Daarom vraag ik me af of je de zaag van bovenaf in het hout moet laten zakken ( soort van inval zaag) en dan naar achteren. Of eerst helemaal uitschuiven en dan terug door het hout? Hoe pak jij dit aan en met name de vraag, hoe heb je de fence afgesteld?
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Great review Dennis, If you had started with your 10 X 6 workshop would you have gone for a bigger mitre saw,, and if you discounted the money issue would a Kapex 120 add any substantial capability that you could not achieve with the KS 60 0r KS 88?
Hi Ross, Has not that much to do with the size of the shop, although because of the bigger size I can do bigger projects and perhaps with thicker wood. You can cut much thicker wood with the 120. The 120 cost more than double the price and that is a lot of money. So far I needed two times more capacity than the 60 delivered. By flipping it around was a good solution. But at that moment, I wish I had the 120. From an accuracy point of view, the 60 deliver what I need.
I don't own the Festol miter saw so unfortunately I will not be able to take advantage of your offer to purchase your fence/inserts. BUMMER! To have something designed & built from THE Dennis from Hooked on Wood!? 🤩 LOL. I wish I had something built from that gorgeous black material you use.
You should seriously consider selling some of your other designs/projects/etc (like your kickass H. O. W table saw insert) but figuring out a way to be able to do so without it becoming to big of a headache for you- No custom sizes/cuts. If you could make it and design it to be almost universal... Or basically once received we'd have to trim some or make the slightest of cuts to tune it just right to our set up. Not sure if that makes sense? I know I'd definitely be a top customer! Lol
Well, I am busy talking to Banggood if we can develop some tools ourselves. So perhaps In the future, you can buy a Hooked On Wood tool. 🤩
good tip about remembering to move the fence. does the kapex come with a laser? found laser very useful on my evolution saw for lining up cuts, although cutting metal will sandblast the laser lens and make it useless.
question about your insert - now you have a product that you spent a lot of thought, time and energy on, would you trust chinese companies to mass produce it and not make their own knock offs?
would also be interesting to see plans for new workshop and hear reasoning behind layout. workflow is something not a lot of woodworking channels go into
Hi, The Kapex 60 does not. I believe the 88 and 120 do use Laser.
About the Chinese. I am busy to see if I can develop some products with them. But I understand your question and to be clear. I do not like that they make copies. But like I told you, I want to make some products. And because of that I studied some patents company's have because I do not want to copy products. But it is almost impossible to make something because even the most "stupid and basic" things are patented. This has nothing to do with innovation, but more with protection. So, to be very clear, if there are some innovative ideas, this should be protected to a certain level. But it should not make it impossible for other company's to produce something similar or develop a product even further. Look at cars, Solar panels, but also a table saws our restaurants. There are a lot of different brands and the models are all look the same, just small changes. I do not know how they manage to do that, because if you want make a square, it is almost impossible to do that without violating a patent.
@@HookedonWood I have a patent on typing the word square. Please could you remove that word from your reply? Thank you.
Great video!
@@HookedonWood patents have an expiry date, after which your idea can be used by anyone (hence cars, solar panels etc). have no problems with the chinese or anyone else doing that. when someone steals and sells your idea when the patent is still active, that's when i really do have a problem. i have two patents i'm trying to turn into products. why should anyone else get a chance to "copy or improve" (read steal or plagiarise) my ideas and make money from them before i do? fine, you might not be able to patent your zti as there is nothing particularly new in it, but you put in the hard work to get the dimensions, tolerances, functionality and ergonomics right. would you be happy with someone profiting from your hard work while you get nothing from it? just be careful with your designs, and should have a look at working with someone like 3dhubs.com who will help you keep your ideas yours
@@padraicoceallaigh8390 Hi Padraic, don't get me wrong, I think we are on the same level on this subject. Thanks for your suggestions.
Thanks a lot Dennis for this detailed review, always super precise and professional!
I'd like to ask you a question before buying KS 60 because I would like to design properly my bench top.
Your bench is narrow and it doesn't support the knob in front of the machine even if theoretically Festool designed it in order to be placed on the bench. Do you have any problem of machine frame bending or it is very stiff and such knob is not needed at all?
Great question. Although with straight cuts and miter cuts it is not that much of an issue, but for bevel cuts there is a bit more flex. In mu new workshop I will place it fully on the bench. Also to be sure. Now I sometimes walk against it a little and when it shifts slightly I do not notice.
@@HookedonWood many thanks Dennis for you answer, I really appreciate your approach.
Emanuele
I am in total admiration of all Festool products but at 10X the price on most their tools, I'd have to be a serious professional in need of bragging rights to justify paying so much for them. I'd simply save by going with lesser quality and a less empty wallet. But thank you for giving such an excellent review of it. However an 8 inch blade capacity would never be my choice for general shop use. I'd have to get larger to handle the occasional 10 quarter by 6 inches or 6x6 and larger or 200 2X6 rafters or ... this saw would not do.
Hi Clyde. It has indeed its limitations.