@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716first of all: graphics were fine, second: gameplay is a subjective thing but we can all agree that the gaming industry is going downhill now.
I used a GTX 960 for about five years and it performed admirably too. The 9 and 10 series were strange though, because it was a rare instance of Nvidia releasing a good GPU lineup twice in a row.
The 900 Series wasn't that good actually. The 960 wasnt that much faster than the 760 and the 970 was basically a fraud with only 3,5 GB of the VRAM beeing connected with fast speed. 980 and 980 ti were okay, but so were 780 and 780ti back in their day. 10 series was exceptional though.
@@Hubwood 970 offered great performance for its price, and back then the 3½GB + 512MB crap didn't matter that much as even 2GB was fine. And in overall, Maxwell offered better efficiency than Kepler.
I remember buying a GTX 970 ASUS Strix back in 2015 as an upgrade to my GTX 570 and my god what an upgrade it was. It lasted me 8 years and is the only card i feel i got more bang for my buck. I've just upgraded to an RTX 3060 TI but I'll always have fond memories of my good ol' 970.
I upgraded to a 970 from a GTX 560 in 2015 and just upgraded it yesterday. I bet a lot of people followed similar timelines. I got a 4070 Super though.
It looks like GPU pricing on the used market has finally reached equilibrium, and we're in a good place. Good time to build a good bang-for-dollar system out of second hard parts! The only thing I'll point out is for people to also cross-shop the RX 480 or 580 8GB in this general price range as it is a better card overall, and should be very close in price. Very nice video as always, my good man.
The 970 was my first GPU purchase in 2015. This was a beast of a card back then. I had the Zotac Mini model. Had mine until 2018 when I upgraded to a 1070 and then sold the 970 for £62 on eBay when they offered me 1p final value fees. 3 years after I went to the 3060 Ti which I still use to this day.
Damn , in my country i have to pay more than 250$ to get brand new gpu with that kind of performance. Luckily i dont live in brazil where i might have to pay 500$ plus
Had this card in 2015 and remember it being good. Got an RX 7800 XT now but for some reason I felt nostalgic for the 970 and found this video, very impressed it's still a beast to this day.
Back when I also had a 970. I had wanted a Gainward Phantom and the local store actually carried that exact model by chance. I was really happy with it for as long as I had it. Sadly I'm a spender and can't get along with out of date parts in my PC for to long.
I had the exact same model back in the day, I thought it was a cool looking card too. But once the 1080 came out it got sold off but I did think it was a great card for the price
It rather depends on your definition of "out of date". Whether it be 5%, 10%, 50% or 200% performance improvements, it makes previous products outdated. Of course, businesses love customers who like to buy their products on a regular basis. One thing is certain, nothing in the world of computing stays current for very long. They get to sell "spenders" full price products months before the price drops substantially, when they bring out a slightly faster or improved version that the same customers "must have". 😁
@@finco7726 noo the fans were plenty enough gor the 970. larger cards had actually a 3 fan version of that heatsink while later the phantom cards were getting a regular heatsink with fans visible.
The main issue with the GTX 970 and cards from a similar time period is that they are very likely to lose driver support soon (within around a year from now). Granted the impact won't be immediate however this might cause issues with any game that's being actively updated (this applies to live service games especially) and it might also cause issues if you're using Windows 11 as, unlike Windows 10, it will continue to receive major updates which in the past have caused compatibility issues with older drivers. This doesn't just apply to the Nvidia 9-series of course however given the length of driver support for Kepler GPUs it's going to happen sooner rather than later.
These companies should be forced to support older tech that is still capable. A**ehole companies always saying "We are going greener" blah blah blah but force items like this into the retro scene or into landfill when they know they are still great budget options, even with a higher power draw.
@@FenrirAlter So? It is clearly still capable of playing modern games. When it comes to PC hardware what matters is whether it is still usable for its intended purpose.
@@OfWodensFolk Keeping old hardware running for as long as possible is just about the best thing we can do to minimize the damage to the environment. This wasn't a major issue in the past as PC hardware tended to become obsolete a lot faster than it does today.
Just today I bought a replacement for my venerable gigabyte gtx 970, you put this video on line. PS: she is great again today, but Rtx 3060 12Gb will be better. Hello from France ;) You deserve much more suscribers
Bought an MSI GTX 970 Gaming at launch from Microcenter. This thing has had continuous use from my main rig back then, to my son's PC, emulator rigs, and most recently added to my 10yo daughter's PC with i7-6700k to run Hogwarts Legacy. It still impresses me as I recall spending $300 for a card that still handles AAA games at 1080p almost 10 years later.
Good stuff! Got the MSI 100ME version for $350 USD way back then, and I still use it in an old PC. The cooler is a beast, very quiet, and has a nice bright green and black shroud with just a sjngle green LED for the dragon logo. I almost don't want to sell it, it was the better than entry level graphics card I ever bought!
Do RX 570 or RX 580, whichever is insanely cheap, Nitro version possibly, if you grab Nitro Pulse, ForceFlash it to Nitro+ to reduce temps, wattage and fan speed... It draws only around 95-100w instead of 150-160w just by doing that, only 40mhz less, which means stock speed basically. Silent Bios from Nitro+ of course, 1244mhz/1750mhz
My wifes pc uses that exact GPU with an i7 3770 and 16 gigs of ram. As we only play Destiny 2 this setup is great with 70 to 80 fps. Not bad at all for a quite an old system.
@@MandoMTL My PC is an x5660 which is well over a decade old now and still performs really well. With my 1080ti I can play D2 at 1440p with 60 to 80fps. Had this setup for over 5 years. Best money I ever spent on PC gear.
Damn, I can't believe how well it still holds up. It used to be the most popular GPU back then. If you sacrifice FPS and lock to 30 you might be able to push graphics a bit more.
Nice find, to me it seems like the current crop of popular AAA titles is one last hurrah for the Maxwell line of graphics cards. As more ue5 titles are released, these will fade quickly.
I still have it in my pc where I play light games. This made me not even realise that I have this card from that much time, since 2014. Still rocks my needs
I have the green MSI GTX 970, it was an awesome card & im glad to have received so much out of it. Early last year I upgraded to an RX 6600 under $200 but I’ll never get rid of my 970. Put it in a guest system with 16 GB RAM & i5 2400. Phenomenal combo, most visitors assume it’s much newer than the combo really is! (Usually console only gamers) How does it compare to a PS4 Pro In general? Always curious as I’ve got one laying around but since I set up a guest PC it hasn’t been used.
The first PC graphics card I bought that surprised me was... a 3DFX Voodoo Banshee. I got a £50 discount on a £100 card, which back then was quite a lot of money. It knocked the socks off the "2D only" card I had in my PC. Quake wasn't a blocky mess anymore! 😁
The GTX 970 is still a good card for 1080p . With these cards FSR is a great feature , but nowadays they use FSR only to not optimize newer games anymore.. :'D
Another great video from my favorite Tech youtuber! I was wondering if you could tell me how you record games when you benchmark? Everytime i try to record while benchmarking i either have to decrease the quality in the recording (which makes the recording look pretty bad and pixelated) or lose significant fps while recording at a good quality. P.S. Do you think buying a 1080 ti in 2023 is a good or atleast viable choice? (in my country there's 1080 ti's for around 200 ish dollars used for sale, i was thinking of upgrading to a 1080ti from a rx 470 4gb)
I remember my strix 970 very fondly, gonna be a weird feeling the day maxwell loses support. I sold my 970 for 1070 right when it came out though 1070, was a nice upgrade in the vram department.
@@mart43 ryzen 7 1700, the cheapest 8 core ryzen at the time, doesnt post with even a 100mhz oc :'D regret not getting the fast 6 core, but young me saw the shiny extra horses without realising its all 'Power' no speed xD
Still rocking a similar GTX 970 but an ASUS Strix on a tertiary gaming PC (4690K OC'd to 4.6 Ghz) and being used by my wife's nephew for our LAN gaming. It still plays even latest games on 1080p.
I just this exact same card back from a friend on loan. I spent $30, like new condition still in the original box. The screw cover sticker is still on the back, so original paste, the originial owner took really good care of it. I can't wait to throw it into a old Dell 8700 with a i7 4790/32gb of ram. New PS of course.
I just picked up a Gigabyte Windforce 970 for 30 USD for a budget gaming rig. Have about 100 bucks into the setup altogether. Great for who I'm building it for. Mainly for Fortnite, Minecraft, Overwatch, etc. Good to know it can also stretch a little bit too if they want to.
I had an MSI GTX 970 until last month (got a new PC with a 7900XTX in November), and it was great. The only bit of that old PC that didn’t cause any major issues.
I have a 290, and now I have it in a secondary pc, I bought that card brand new in mid 2014, and it still does the job, it has been running ROCK solid for more than 9 years and it is still going! despite sometimes hitting like 92ºc (Asus DirectCu II oc R9 290). We game hard our pcs at home, and now having such a low money value I even "neglect it a bit", I have it running with just 2 case fans, I used to have it with 6 and the thing still holds on to this very day, I don't want to get rid of it, it's like part of the family 🤣. honorable mention to the Antec hcg620m PSU that powers it from almost since I bought it and it still works just fine, I even had 2 gpus on that running 2 vm's with gpu passthrough on my 4c8t xeon (290 + GTS 450/RX460)
Can we get more benchmarks without res scaling technology? Or maybe tests with and without scaling techs? Feels like every benchmark uses scaling tech these days and it feels disingenuous to the actual performance of the cards at certain resolutions. Like 1080p with FSR is not 1080p for example.
Yeah I’m thinking about doing native and FSR benchmarks in videos. I tend to use it in these budget videos as it helps get the most out of cards and would be useful to potential buyers
I owned this exact model, it was great value for money. The cooler didn't make any noise at all and had fan stop, the GPU itself ran very cool inside an ITX box with very little cooling. I picked up a 570 4gb for around the same price recently and it would be interesting to compare the two.
Used one up until last Christmas and never felt unable to play anything at all, with appropriate settings of course, still got it hanging around as an emergency spare should the situation arise.. it's still that decent!
Its because its basically a tiny bit above 1650 and because it was so popular they tried to optimise games on around this hardware very cool in my opinion
A fairly cheap way to get a decent card. I had a look there at a comparison video of a 970, 1060 & 1650 and the 970 seemed to be fairly close to the 1650. Some games for the older card, some for the new but pretty close on average.
I have an old evga 970. It's an awesome overclocker. A friend gave it to me, because he thought it killed 3 mainboards. Even though i proved it was his power supply he still wanted me to have the card.
I still have a 970 in an old backup PC that I use for streaming. Don't game with it anymore, but I think it's still a pretty good gaming card if your game settings are within the limits of the HW.
I think second hand/older components are still a fantastic option when it comes to pc gaming. There's so much you can get away with compared to the latest and greatest. Sure some of it starts to show it's age, but the price to performance ratio is insane. You only wanna game at 1080p and have an average of 60fps? Your options are abundant. You don't even need to buy a new computer. Just get an old dell optiplex or Lenovo Thinkstation, upgrade the power supply, throw in a graphics card and ssd, and you're golden. I myself just snagged a Lenovo Thinkstation with an i7-6700 and 8 gigs of ram for $98 and an EVGA RTX 2060 KO for $150 from ebay. It pairs for a great budget experience and you can still play the latest games just fine. Don't think you have to spend $800-$1,000 just to get into pc gaming. You can easily do it for $400 or less, especially if you're not sure you want to fully transition from console. Those fancy cases with RGB lighting are just for show and don't improve performance whatsoever.
RGB lighting add nothing but appearance it nice but the extra cash is better used on CPU or GPU if not worry save money get basic case with fans build and golden and with supply over spec as as save you in year to came and not need to upgrade it if more power hunger parts
Had a Gigabyte Windforce 970 great cards still useful now especially at that price for a quick budget build. Even more impressive when you consider it's only 4gb and after 3.5 of that is used it's a "spillover segment" of vram. Never caused me any issues but it certainly caused Nvidia a headache with the lawsuit lol.
I had an Asus strix ROG GTX970 and it was phenomenal. A fantastic card, even with just 4GB VRAM. I got it at a good price, and sold it for a good price. This was about four years ago now though. Still a solid player for a good budget rig 💯👌
Had one for solid four and a half years. It was a very good card and allowed me to play Fallout 4 on release. Bought it less than two weeks prior and it was bundled with a Samsung SSD and the total price was something like EUR 450.
I am positive most of the people would appreciate if you tested the esports games at their lowest settings. Most people play them competitively and competitive players care about frames and clarity more than graphics.
still a good budget 1080p gpu nowdays for the little money you pay for it, the only thing would be drivers support tho, im pretty sure it wont last too much since the 900 series is like 8-9 year old at this point.
Love this card, my first 70 model I could afford. I had the same MSI card. its now sitting in my nephews computer and still doing the job at 1080p. (granted you do have to do things like turn shadows down etc).A few years ago I managed to upgrade to a 1070ti, which I am still running today as I game at 1080p.
Well, that was unexpected. Such a low price vs performance. This could easily be put into a cheap first gaming PC for a kid who's interested in gaming on PC.
I your on budget build it good compromise with an eye to upgrade you GPU later on but for around $50+/-1 $10 you can now pick up an 8GB GPU ebay second hand like RX580 which is better bet due to extra Vram for 1080 gaming
really a beast of a card, had also 2 of them in SLI... 1st bought used in 2017 at like 230e with 1 year guarantee, 2nd one maybe in 2019? for 120e... sold them both in 2021 for 2x 100e
hey its me again have you seen that mi25 cards are going for 80 bucks on ebay. and doy you know how to flash one while using a different card as a display. thank you
I had a PNY 970 sitting in my desktop paired with a 4770K until just last month. I actually got a small check as part of the “only 3.5 gigabytes vram” class action lawsuit. I can’t remember how much it was for, though. Not a lot.
I play at 1080p, I'm still rocking a GTX 1060 6GB card with 32gb of ram and an AMD 5700G cpu, I have yet to play a game that this set up can't handle, I know there will be a few out there but I haven't found them yet :)
I've found locally a GTX 1060 (3GB) GPU for $26. Only problem it has is that the fan always ramps up to full speed so I hooked a case fan to the heatsink of the GPU and tested it and it's all good and quiet.
bought one for my niece and a friend each for 120€ and 130€ during the GPUcolypse in 2021 when 1050TIs and 1060s were going for 200 and 300 eurons and RX 580s for 400. The special feature was the handicaped 3.5 + 0.5 GB Vram which made those 970s completely useless for miners as they needed at least 4 full GBs. who would have thought the 970s handicapped VRAM would make them a good deal for gamers (buy side) edit: also it seems the 970 was a bit under the radar in contrast to aformentioned cards. despite its performance being on par with 1060s and superior to 1050Tis
I personally used a RX 560 4GB OC version by Asus for the longest time until I got a laptop gifted with an GTX 1060m (that I later sold in the GPU crisis times to later get an RX 6600).
You can get these for £60 straight up from CeX btw, which I find absolutely crazy for a current driver supported card, I myself owned a 970 at one time (the EVGA SC variant, RIP)
I had a 970 till only may when i jumped to 3060. Solid card. It got moved to my media centre pc so the kids can use it for some basic gaming in the loungr
Wow 50 for this card, amazing, in hindsight I really regret upgrading past my 1080ti and just accepting 60fps on 1440p, but i wanted more fps, raytracing, all that jazz, but compared to those cards they never had the same oompf.
I have this card. I bought it off my friend for 40£ after he upgraded a while back and it’s still a decent contender. I combine it with an i5 10600k and 16gb of ddr4 memory. This is slightly overkill, but I bought these components back when GPUs were hard to come by and expensive (2019 or 2020..? When the 30 series were wreaking havoc). I went for these components as there was a good Amazon sale and it gave me room for future upgrades
actual problem was, that 980 had also 4GB Vram... and if 970 was a cut off, it couldnt have same memory, so it wasnt about "allow", it was limitation of core
I got one for £30 a while back must i must say the cooling design of these MSi cards are very flawed, for one the pressure on the die means the paste layer is so thin, (however the machining surface is one of the best ive seen for flatness) the stock fan curve and use for about 6 months constant causes pushout and a thermal runaway. MX-4, MX-2, ID cooling, cheap paste, i tried several throughout my temporary use of the card (disassembly is thankfully so easy.) Secondly the heatsink blows air out the back and front, not only causing hot air to influence the CPU, but the low RPM of the fans even at 100% for the sake of silence mean this card heatsoaks almost instantly and can't keep it under control after the time period mentioned. furthermore that lingering heat influences heavily on the power delivery circuitry and once aged and dusty like mine was, it suprises me these MSi TF variants are alive..credit to a well made card..just shame about the cooling. A graphite thermal pad and some tape around the resistors and a cranked fan curve in afterburner makes the most sense, they are still quiet even under 90-100% fan speed so if that was its target, it'll still archieve it. It is otherwise a good card but the sag and having these in SLi cries out for a bracket and the fixes i mentioned. They overclock pretty decently and gain a noticeable performance but it did shorten the paste effeciency to about 4 months as it incurred a 4-5C penalty even with a mild undervolt over stock, the benefit mostly came from memory however and most noticeably in forza horizon 5 the mid 30s drops in the outposts just about clinged to the low 50s, if you can get it for under £40 and don't mind a power eater then SLi (suprisingly) is a half decent option as most of my library for games up until 2016 will run even if unsupported, games like Doom 2016, Killing Floor 2, the games you'll probably be playing in the time this card released unless you're trying to carry one through until an upgrade, in which perhaps a heavier undervolt and a slight core drop followed by a memory overclock to make up the difference like i did towards the end of its use for me would likely be the best option..but now i run 2 1070s in SLi that i got for £90, each using 1 8 pin which allowed me to avoid a PSU upgrade and use the 6 pin on my Asus Phoebus sound card. To those who say SLi is dead..i have an almost full steam library of games tested that have woken up to it and more of them are unsupported games..and the 1070 alone is still enough to squeeze past that 60fps mark at 1080p ultra..but when 2 work together i can get the same results at 4K..shame Multi GPU trends died. Drivers clearly still support it, but developers stopped once Nvidia realised it wasn't profitable enough to market SLi technology anymore and even with Nvlink fixing its flaws with bandwidth..which i haven't ran into on games, Only saw a few more titles accept the technology before it was killed off :(
It's ridiculous how resilient this card is in 1080p. Considering its price/performance when buying used, it's hard to find an equally well-balanced upgrade; the card costs less than an AAA title after all!
Good price to performance, however, I think I'd look for a GTX 1070 for a $100 USD instead. You're getting 8GB as opposed to the 3.5GB of vram from the 970, and also about a 50% or more performance boost. But I think the biggest reason to skip the 970, and go to the 1070, is I feel that Nvidia is close to cancelling all driver support for the 900 series card, just like they did with the 700 series back in 2021!
That MSI card reminds me of simpler times
Reminds me of the RX 580 I got for my sister 2 years ago for $80.
When graphics were terrible and gameplay for games were bad
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716first of all: graphics were fine, second: gameplay is a subjective thing but we can all agree that the gaming industry is going downhill now.
Those simpler times in general were truly before 2010...way before the release of the 970.
I had the MSI 980 TI Golden Edition back in the day. Woo boy do I miss it!!!
I used a GTX 960 for about five years and it performed admirably too. The 9 and 10 series were strange though, because it was a rare instance of Nvidia releasing a good GPU lineup twice in a row.
Had a 980 Ti and upgraded to 1080 Ti, yeah, both were awesome cards.
The 900 Series wasn't that good actually.
The 960 wasnt that much faster than the 760 and the 970 was basically a fraud with only 3,5 GB of the VRAM beeing connected with fast speed.
980 and 980 ti were okay, but so were 780 and 780ti back in their day.
10 series was exceptional though.
@@Hubwood 970 offered great performance for its price, and back then the 3½GB + 512MB crap didn't matter that much as even 2GB was fine.
And in overall, Maxwell offered better efficiency than Kepler.
@@Hubwood To me power usage was an issues at idle 980ti was better than 780ti.
Have a gigabyte gtx970 still working very well...one of nvidias best cards ever for price to performance...what happened nvidia?????
I used this msi 970 until earlier this year for 7 years and it really took a while for it to reach its limits for me, great card
Yeah still doing surprisingly well at 1080p
980Ti is still doing well at 720p
I had mine since 2014, only replaced it a few months back only because I went to 1440p, ran everything I played at 1080p 70-100fps.
@@juanme555 980ti can easily support 1080p why 720p?
@fudge7534 yup you're right. Even 1060s support 1080p well and those 980ti cards are way better than the entry 1060 cards lol
What a beast of a card. Almost 10 years old and still going strong
No wayy
My daughter is still rocking my old msi gtx 970 and I can confirm it still ploughs through all the games she cares to play at 1080p in style imo
I remember buying a GTX 970 ASUS Strix back in 2015 as an upgrade to my GTX 570 and my god what an upgrade it was. It lasted me 8 years and is the only card i feel i got more bang for my buck. I've just upgraded to an RTX 3060 TI but I'll always have fond memories of my good ol' 970.
I upgraded to a 970 from a GTX 560 in 2015 and just upgraded it yesterday. I bet a lot of people followed similar timelines. I got a 4070 Super though.
It looks like GPU pricing on the used market has finally reached equilibrium, and we're in a good place. Good time to build a good bang-for-dollar system out of second hard parts! The only thing I'll point out is for people to also cross-shop the RX 480 or 580 8GB in this general price range as it is a better card overall, and should be very close in price. Very nice video as always, my good man.
100% agree, the RX 480 and 580 8GB cards are very over looked imo, still a great budget 1080p card today.
The 970 was my first GPU purchase in 2015. This was a beast of a card back then. I had the Zotac Mini model.
Had mine until 2018 when I upgraded to a 1070 and then sold the 970 for £62 on eBay when they offered me 1p final value fees.
3 years after I went to the 3060 Ti which I still use to this day.
Love those zotac mini cards!
I bought a dell OEM 2060 for $50 last year. Replaced the fan and thermal paste, runs well. Good purchase.
Jammy sod
thats a EPIC deal!
Damn , in my country i have to pay more than 250$ to get brand new gpu with that kind of performance. Luckily i dont live in brazil where i might have to pay 500$ plus
Damn, a punch in the face of the 580
I just got a 4070 Super but wish I could have got a deal like that haha. Nice score.
Still rocking a GTX 970 today, and it's a great graphics card.
I jus got one
Had this card in 2015 and remember it being good. Got an RX 7800 XT now but for some reason I felt nostalgic for the 970 and found this video, very impressed it's still a beast to this day.
Back when I also had a 970. I had wanted a Gainward Phantom and the local store actually carried that exact model by chance. I was really happy with it for as long as I had it. Sadly I'm a spender and can't get along with out of date parts in my PC for to long.
I had the exact same model back in the day, I thought it was a cool looking card too. But once the 1080 came out it got sold off but I did think it was a great card for the price
It rather depends on your definition of "out of date". Whether it be 5%, 10%, 50% or 200% performance improvements, it makes previous products outdated. Of course, businesses love customers who like to buy their products on a regular basis. One thing is certain, nothing in the world of computing stays current for very long. They get to sell "spenders" full price products months before the price drops substantially, when they bring out a slightly faster or improved version that the same customers "must have". 😁
that big grill model Phantom looks awesome at first sight, but when you see those 2 tiny fans under, well "hoping it will suffice"
@@another3997 I am certain I never paid full price for any PC part
@@finco7726 noo the fans were plenty enough gor the 970. larger cards had actually a 3 fan version of that heatsink while later the phantom cards were getting a regular heatsink with fans visible.
i rate this card 3.5 out of 4, solid card
Ahaha good one! 😂
The main issue with the GTX 970 and cards from a similar time period is that they are very likely to lose driver support soon (within around a year from now). Granted the impact won't be immediate however this might cause issues with any game that's being actively updated (this applies to live service games especially) and it might also cause issues if you're using Windows 11 as, unlike Windows 10, it will continue to receive major updates which in the past have caused compatibility issues with older drivers. This doesn't just apply to the Nvidia 9-series of course however given the length of driver support for Kepler GPUs it's going to happen sooner rather than later.
These companies should be forced to support older tech that is still capable. A**ehole companies always saying "We are going greener" blah blah blah but force items like this into the retro scene or into landfill when they know they are still great budget options, even with a higher power draw.
@@OfWodensFolk Bruh, that's an almost 10-year-old GPU
like the R9 290-390 card from amd. A good card without driversupport anymore. very sad...
@@FenrirAlter So? It is clearly still capable of playing modern games. When it comes to PC hardware what matters is whether it is still usable for its intended purpose.
@@OfWodensFolk Keeping old hardware running for as long as possible is just about the best thing we can do to minimize the damage to the environment. This wasn't a major issue in the past as PC hardware tended to become obsolete a lot faster than it does today.
Just today I bought a replacement for my venerable gigabyte gtx 970, you put this video on line. PS: she is great again today, but Rtx 3060 12Gb will be better. Hello from France ;) You deserve much more suscribers
Nice mate, i still own this exact card for 10 years now. Recently upgraded to a 1080ti for a bargain (100 euro)
Bought an MSI GTX 970 Gaming at launch from Microcenter. This thing has had continuous use from my main rig back then, to my son's PC, emulator rigs, and most recently added to my 10yo daughter's PC with i7-6700k to run Hogwarts Legacy. It still impresses me as I recall spending $300 for a card that still handles AAA games at 1080p almost 10 years later.
And all of this for a decent 150W power consumption, it could be run on some OEM or low end desktop with 300+w PSU which is very neat
Good stuff!
Got the MSI 100ME version for $350 USD way back then, and I still use it in an old PC. The cooler is a beast, very quiet, and has a nice bright green and black shroud with just a sjngle green LED for the dragon logo. I almost don't want to sell it, it was the better than entry level graphics card I ever bought!
Awesome content mate! Love the older GPUs.
I love that cooler design, wanna get me an old MSI because of that
I had the same 970. I ended up upgrading a few years ago, but my sister is still using it to this day.
Do RX 570 or RX 580, whichever is insanely cheap, Nitro version possibly, if you grab Nitro Pulse, ForceFlash it to Nitro+ to reduce temps, wattage and fan speed... It draws only around 95-100w instead of 150-160w just by doing that, only 40mhz less, which means stock speed basically. Silent Bios from Nitro+ of course, 1244mhz/1750mhz
My wifes pc uses that exact GPU with an i7 3770 and 16 gigs of ram. As we only play Destiny 2 this setup is great with 70 to 80 fps. Not bad at all for a quite an old system.
The 2600 & 3770 are amazing. Talk about longevity.
@@MandoMTL My PC is an x5660 which is well over a decade old now and still performs really well. With my 1080ti I can play D2 at 1440p with 60 to 80fps. Had this setup for over 5 years. Best money I ever spent on PC gear.
Damn, I can't believe how well it still holds up. It used to be the most popular GPU back then. If you sacrifice FPS and lock to 30 you might be able to push graphics a bit more.
Nice find, to me it seems like the current crop of popular AAA titles is one last hurrah for the Maxwell line of graphics cards. As more ue5 titles are released, these will fade quickly.
I still have it in my pc where I play light games.
This made me not even realise that I have this card from that much time, since 2014. Still rocks my needs
I got a R9 290X Matrix Platinum for 10EUR last year. Still plays games fine as I have it on my 2nd PC with a 2500K @ 5GHz :)
I have the green MSI GTX 970, it was an awesome card & im glad to have received so much out of it. Early last year I upgraded to an RX 6600 under $200 but I’ll never get rid of my 970. Put it in a guest system with 16 GB RAM & i5 2400. Phenomenal combo, most visitors assume it’s much newer than the combo really is! (Usually console only gamers)
How does it compare to a PS4 Pro In general? Always curious as I’ve got one laying around but since I set up a guest PC it hasn’t been used.
yeah Green one was Limited edition, there was also an Orange one as Gold edition
Would you consider making a video about the 980Ti on a CRT monitor running 1280x800 resolution? it would be awesome content.
The GTX 970 was the first card I bought that really surprised me. I had a GTX 660 Ti, HD 6870 CF before it.
The first PC graphics card I bought that surprised me was... a 3DFX Voodoo Banshee. I got a £50 discount on a £100 card, which back then was quite a lot of money. It knocked the socks off the "2D only" card I had in my PC. Quake wasn't a blocky mess anymore! 😁
The GTX 970 is still a good card for 1080p .
With these cards FSR is a great feature , but nowadays they use FSR only to not optimize newer games anymore.. :'D
You always make great content with beautiful Thumbnail ❤
970 is useful to cook some eggs, at around 160w! No way I would find it attractive in any other gaming way!
Another great video from my favorite Tech youtuber!
I was wondering if you could tell me how you record games when you benchmark?
Everytime i try to record while benchmarking i either have to decrease the quality in the recording (which makes the recording look pretty bad and pixelated) or lose significant fps while recording at a good quality.
P.S. Do you think buying a 1080 ti in 2023 is a good or atleast viable choice? (in my country there's 1080 ti's for around 200 ish dollars used for sale, i was thinking of upgrading to a 1080ti from a rx 470 4gb)
I remember my strix 970 very fondly, gonna be a weird feeling the day maxwell loses support. I sold my 970 for 1070 right when it came out though 1070, was a nice upgrade in the vram department.
jesus christ, i meed to upgrade my cpu! im getting similar results with a ssc 1080 @2088mhz D: ....... amazing video, eye opening 😅😂❤
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What cpu do you have?
@@mart43 ryzen 7 1700, the cheapest 8 core ryzen at the time, doesnt post with even a 100mhz oc :'D
regret not getting the fast 6 core, but young me saw the shiny extra horses without realising its all 'Power' no speed xD
Still rocking a similar GTX 970 but an ASUS Strix on a tertiary gaming PC (4690K OC'd to 4.6 Ghz) and being used by my wife's nephew for our LAN gaming. It still plays even latest games on 1080p.
Always fun to see my GPU, the first PC I ever built.
I just this exact same card back from a friend on loan. I spent $30, like new condition still in the original box. The screw cover sticker is still on the back, so original paste, the originial owner took really good care of it. I can't wait to throw it into a old Dell 8700 with a i7 4790/32gb of ram. New PS of course.
I just picked up a Gigabyte Windforce 970 for 30 USD for a budget gaming rig. Have about 100 bucks into the setup altogether. Great for who I'm building it for. Mainly for Fortnite, Minecraft, Overwatch, etc. Good to know it can also stretch a little bit too if they want to.
I had an MSI GTX 970 until last month (got a new PC with a 7900XTX in November), and it was great. The only bit of that old PC that didn’t cause any major issues.
I have a 290, and now I have it in a secondary pc, I bought that card brand new in mid 2014, and it still does the job, it has been running ROCK solid for more than 9 years and it is still going! despite sometimes hitting like 92ºc (Asus DirectCu II oc R9 290). We game hard our pcs at home, and now having such a low money value I even "neglect it a bit", I have it running with just 2 case fans, I used to have it with 6 and the thing still holds on to this very day, I don't want to get rid of it, it's like part of the family 🤣. honorable mention to the Antec hcg620m PSU that powers it from almost since I bought it and it still works just fine, I even had 2 gpus on that running 2 vm's with gpu passthrough on my 4c8t xeon (290 + GTS 450/RX460)
Can we get more benchmarks without res scaling technology? Or maybe tests with and without scaling techs? Feels like every benchmark uses scaling tech these days and it feels disingenuous to the actual performance of the cards at certain resolutions. Like 1080p with FSR is not 1080p for example.
Yeah I’m thinking about doing native and FSR benchmarks in videos. I tend to use it in these budget videos as it helps get the most out of cards and would be useful to potential buyers
I owned this exact model, it was great value for money. The cooler didn't make any noise at all and had fan stop, the GPU itself ran very cool inside an ITX box with very little cooling. I picked up a 570 4gb for around the same price recently and it would be interesting to compare the two.
Used one up until last Christmas and never felt unable to play anything at all, with appropriate settings of course, still got it hanging around as an emergency spare should the situation arise.. it's still that decent!
I still have my 970 in my server. Fun fact, it was the last GPU that I ever bought brand new. Every card since then has been second hand.
Its because its basically a tiny bit above 1650 and because it was so popular they tried to optimise games on around this hardware very cool in my opinion
A fairly cheap way to get a decent card. I had a look there at a comparison video of a 970, 1060 & 1650 and the 970 seemed to be fairly close to the 1650. Some games for the older card, some for the new but pretty close on average.
I have an old evga 970. It's an awesome overclocker. A friend gave it to me, because he thought it killed 3 mainboards. Even though i proved it was his power supply he still wanted me to have the card.
I still have a 970 in an old backup PC that I use for streaming. Don't game with it anymore, but I think it's still a pretty good gaming card if your game settings are within the limits of the HW.
I think second hand/older components are still a fantastic option when it comes to pc gaming. There's so much you can get away with compared to the latest and greatest. Sure some of it starts to show it's age, but the price to performance ratio is insane. You only wanna game at 1080p and have an average of 60fps? Your options are abundant. You don't even need to buy a new computer. Just get an old dell optiplex or Lenovo Thinkstation, upgrade the power supply, throw in a graphics card and ssd, and you're golden. I myself just snagged a Lenovo Thinkstation with an i7-6700 and 8 gigs of ram for $98 and an EVGA RTX 2060 KO for $150 from ebay. It pairs for a great budget experience and you can still play the latest games just fine.
Don't think you have to spend $800-$1,000 just to get into pc gaming. You can easily do it for $400 or less, especially if you're not sure you want to fully transition from console. Those fancy cases with RGB lighting are just for show and don't improve performance whatsoever.
RGB lighting add nothing but appearance it nice but the extra cash is better used on CPU or GPU if not worry save money get basic case with fans build and golden and with supply over spec as as save you in year to came and not need to upgrade it if more power hunger parts
I still remember the 970 when it was new and just how much of a beast it was at the time.
This is honestly pretty amazing.
Had a Gigabyte Windforce 970 great cards still useful now especially at that price for a quick budget build. Even more impressive when you consider it's only 4gb and after 3.5 of that is used it's a "spillover segment" of vram. Never caused me any issues but it certainly caused Nvidia a headache with the lawsuit lol.
A solid budget card. It struggled with ARMA 3, but that was due to limitations of my then i5 6600.
Hey! You should add Dead Island 2 to the benchmark games! It seems to be very well optimized, even for older generations.
I had an Asus strix ROG GTX970 and it was phenomenal. A fantastic card, even with just 4GB VRAM. I got it at a good price, and sold it for a good price. This was about four years ago now though. Still a solid player for a good budget rig 💯👌
Owl eyes' shroud model :)) nice
Had one for solid four and a half years. It was a very good card and allowed me to play Fallout 4 on release. Bought it less than two weeks prior and it was bundled with a Samsung SSD and the total price was something like EUR 450.
Your voice sounds so marvelous in this video.
I still have this card and I love it. Super good card
That Last of Us benchmark, the ram usage went into the slower bus ram. If the 970 hadn't been built that way, the frames could have been higher.
I am positive most of the people would appreciate if you tested the esports games at their lowest settings. Most people play them competitively and competitive players care about frames and clarity more than graphics.
Crazy value especially if you got it back in the day.
still a good budget 1080p gpu nowdays for the little money you pay for it, the only thing would be drivers support tho, im pretty sure it wont last too much since the 900 series is like 8-9 year old at this point.
Love this card, my first 70 model I could afford. I had the same MSI card. its now sitting in my nephews computer and still doing the job at 1080p. (granted you do have to do things like turn shadows down etc).A few years ago I managed to upgrade to a 1070ti, which I am still running today as I game at 1080p.
Well, that was unexpected. Such a low price vs performance. This could easily be put into a cheap first gaming PC for a kid who's interested in gaming on PC.
I your on budget build it good compromise with an eye to upgrade you GPU later on but for around $50+/-1 $10 you can now pick up an 8GB GPU ebay second hand like RX580 which is better bet due to extra Vram for 1080 gaming
I had the exact same card, unfortunately it died. But I still keep it around for decoration, I really love this GPU
This red Gaming X design has always been my favorite besides Asus Strix
really a beast of a card, had also 2 of them in SLI... 1st bought used in 2017 at like 230e with 1 year guarantee, 2nd one maybe in 2019? for 120e... sold them both in 2021 for 2x 100e
hey its me again have you seen that mi25 cards are going for 80 bucks on ebay. and doy you know how to flash one while using a different card as a display. thank you
saw last night that R9 270x are going for 15-30 dollars if your lucky enough to not fall asleep during the bidding, Might buy one for a older machine.
I am impressed. GTX 970 still has chops. Even if you need FSR. But i'd want to see it with the 4790 it usually comes with.
I had a PNY 970 sitting in my desktop paired with a 4770K until just last month. I actually got a small check as part of the “only 3.5 gigabytes vram” class action lawsuit. I can’t remember how much it was for, though. Not a lot.
I just got a 1060 6gb for 50 dollars shipping included. The performance is incredible for the cost.
I play at 1080p, I'm still rocking a GTX 1060 6GB card with 32gb of ram and an AMD 5700G cpu, I have yet to play a game that this set up can't handle, I know there will be a few out there but I haven't found them yet :)
back in the days where nVidia actually made well priced products. crazy.
I've found locally a GTX 1060 (3GB) GPU for $26. Only problem it has is that the fan always ramps up to full speed so I hooked a case fan to the heatsink of the GPU and tested it and it's all good and quiet.
bought one for my niece and a friend each for 120€ and 130€ during the GPUcolypse in 2021 when 1050TIs and 1060s were going for 200 and 300 eurons and RX 580s for 400. The special feature was the handicaped 3.5 + 0.5 GB Vram which made those 970s completely useless for miners as they needed at least 4 full GBs.
who would have thought the 970s handicapped VRAM would make them a good deal for gamers (buy side)
edit: also it seems the 970 was a bit under the radar in contrast to aformentioned cards. despite its performance being on par with 1060s and superior to 1050Tis
Curious, will you add Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart to the games benchmarks list? Be interesting to see how it runs on older cards, even if slow
It's kinda bugged atm, frame generation for example adds tons of stuttering.
0:53 camera movement is spot on
I personally used a RX 560 4GB OC version by Asus for the longest time until I got a laptop gifted with an GTX 1060m (that I later sold in the GPU crisis times to later get an RX 6600).
You can get these for £60 straight up from CeX btw, which I find absolutely crazy for a current driver supported card, I myself owned a 970 at one time (the EVGA SC variant, RIP)
I recently picked up a GTX 980 ASUS Strix for £65 from cex. Not sure what I'm gonna use it for yet, but I'll figure it out in sure.
I had a 970 till only may when i jumped to 3060. Solid card. It got moved to my media centre pc so the kids can use it for some basic gaming in the loungr
I’ve owned this exact GTX 970 and it’s a good card.
Wow 50 for this card, amazing, in hindsight I really regret upgrading past my 1080ti and just accepting 60fps on 1440p, but i wanted more fps, raytracing, all that jazz, but compared to those cards they never had the same oompf.
GTX 970 . Legend never die.
I have this card. I bought it off my friend for 40£ after he upgraded a while back and it’s still a decent contender.
I combine it with an i5 10600k and 16gb of ddr4 memory. This is slightly overkill, but I bought these components back when GPUs were hard to come by and expensive (2019 or 2020..? When the 30 series were wreaking havoc). I went for these components as there was a good Amazon sale and it gave me room for future upgrades
Yeah, bit of a nostalgic card at this point honestly, really was quite a hardware-transitory era of PC and Console gaming at the time.
i have that same msi card , cool thing with 970 is you can get a second one a run sli , some games still suport it ,
That 3.5gb scandal was absolutely baffling. How did nvidia managed to a. allow it to happen and b. convinced everyone that it's not a big deal.
actual problem was, that 980 had also 4GB Vram... and if 970 was a cut off, it couldnt have same memory, so it wasnt about "allow", it was limitation of core
@@finco7726 then they should've just released it as a 3gb. Not 4 gb, 0.5gb of which barely have any bus.
I got one for £30 a while back must i must say the cooling design of these MSi cards are very flawed, for one the pressure on the die means the paste layer is so thin, (however the machining surface is one of the best ive seen for flatness) the stock fan curve and use for about 6 months constant causes pushout and a thermal runaway. MX-4, MX-2, ID cooling, cheap paste, i tried several throughout my temporary use of the card (disassembly is thankfully so easy.) Secondly the heatsink blows air out the back and front, not only causing hot air to influence the CPU, but the low RPM of the fans even at 100% for the sake of silence mean this card heatsoaks almost instantly and can't keep it under control after the time period mentioned. furthermore that lingering heat influences heavily on the power delivery circuitry and once aged and dusty like mine was, it suprises me these MSi TF variants are alive..credit to a well made card..just shame about the cooling. A graphite thermal pad and some tape around the resistors and a cranked fan curve in afterburner makes the most sense, they are still quiet even under 90-100% fan speed so if that was its target, it'll still archieve it. It is otherwise a good card but the sag and having these in SLi cries out for a bracket and the fixes i mentioned.
They overclock pretty decently and gain a noticeable performance but it did shorten the paste effeciency to about 4 months as it incurred a 4-5C penalty even with a mild undervolt over stock, the benefit mostly came from memory however and most noticeably in forza horizon 5 the mid 30s drops in the outposts just about clinged to the low 50s, if you can get it for under £40 and don't mind a power eater then SLi (suprisingly) is a half decent option as most of my library for games up until 2016 will run even if unsupported, games like Doom 2016, Killing Floor 2, the games you'll probably be playing in the time this card released unless you're trying to carry one through until an upgrade, in which perhaps a heavier undervolt and a slight core drop followed by a memory overclock to make up the difference like i did towards the end of its use for me would likely be the best option..but now i run 2 1070s in SLi that i got for £90, each using 1 8 pin which allowed me to avoid a PSU upgrade and use the 6 pin on my Asus Phoebus sound card.
To those who say SLi is dead..i have an almost full steam library of games tested that have woken up to it and more of them are unsupported games..and the 1070 alone is still enough to squeeze past that 60fps mark at 1080p ultra..but when 2 work together i can get the same results at 4K..shame Multi GPU trends died. Drivers clearly still support it, but developers stopped once Nvidia realised it wasn't profitable enough to market SLi technology anymore and even with Nvlink fixing its flaws with bandwidth..which i haven't ran into on games, Only saw a few more titles accept the technology before it was killed off :(
50 bucks. REMARKABLE card! Solid choice in 2023.
Still rocking one 😊
It's ridiculous how resilient this card is in 1080p. Considering its price/performance when buying used, it's hard to find an equally well-balanced upgrade; the card costs less than an AAA title after all!
Yeah good point. Costs less than most games haha
Indeed it is a nice card. But be aware, that driver support may end any day. Kepler's (2012) support ended in 2021, Maxwell launched in 2014.🤔
Had this exact MSI model before building a new rig about a month ago but damn has it stood through the test of times with me😂
Good price to performance, however, I think I'd look for a GTX 1070 for a $100 USD instead. You're getting 8GB as opposed to the 3.5GB of vram from the 970, and also about a 50% or more performance boost. But I think the biggest reason to skip the 970, and go to the 1070, is I feel that Nvidia is close to cancelling all driver support for the 900 series card, just like they did with the 700 series back in 2021!