It is impressive how good the used market for gaming in the UK is. Unfortunately over here people would rather hoard old tech rather than selling it for cheap.
I live in hope. because 2Gb ddr3 for laptops is currently 10p. another year (not far away now) and other computer components will cost so little, you could build a working system for probably less than £50 - less if you already have a computer case.
you can. you can upgrade the memory and the hdd - done this far too often!! my next personal memory upgrade will be my ailing vista laptop. it's 17 years old and it does what I ask of it. laptops that I acquire that lack a hdd get a hdd and a memory upgrade. then I install whichever flavour of linux best suits it. got ubuntu studio running on an old HP laptop purely because the soundcard on it is a good one and I can install cakewalk/lmms on it with no issue. the main cause for a lot of laptops getting disposed of, is because the mobo battery died (not the big bulky battery on the back of it, the small flat battery inside). there is no such thing as 'can't'. oh - and my asus all-in-one PC defo needs more ram - now that's the challenge!! (but once done, it'll be easy to do on the next one). my hobby? fixing computers. I don't usually make a song and dance about it because I don't have to. I also help people with their tech and guide them on how to use it. macs included! I love recent old tech. writing this on a 7 year old w10 craptop with a bust keyboard and other things on it starting to crap out - and I'll use it until the day it dies. and then I'll restore it. @@tatemushroom1002
@@sms-ux5klThat doesn't make much sense. My i5 is a little over 20% faster than your i5 and my GPU about 30% faster. Hard to believe your CPU was such an extreme GPU bottleneck. Unless you are playing CPU bound games. Fortnite is well known for that among others.
@@quintogala8661why not go with a ryzen 5 3600? Has a great upgrade path probably will be able to upgrade to a ryzen 9 5950x in 5 years for less than £70
You should've got a 10400f, it's not that much more expensive and it's WAAAY better in every way possible. Anyway, have a good time with you new CPU, it's not the best but it's still really capable !
Might want to list the exact processor name in the description or even title, so that people who specifically look for benchmarks of rhis CPU will find this.
the 4170 is still a capable CPU... Just not for gaming. I used this in my office machine till last year when i upgraded to 8th gen i5 PC. The biggest limitation i believe was the RAM. 8GB is not enough anymore. Not even for office work
I had this cpu fpor about half a year or so this year, it was such a big upgrade from my core 2 quad and i even made a video on it😅 recently upgraded to the i5 4570 which was also a big improvement as it can now turbo boost and has 4 cores lol
This gen has been peak for some price category basically since its release. Now we're rounding out the 1 dollar price point, and its still ruling for that price.
For minecraft you should use the sodium mod, it tends to increase performance significantly and usually fixes some of the stutter, as it allows the game to use all of the cores in your system, as opposed to just one, and most people use this mod as even with more powerful cpus the game has performance and stuttering issues
My girlfriend still uses my old i5 4570. That is her monstrous "gaming PC" :) I still think it's impressive of how much fun you can have with old hardware... She doesn't play the latest AAA single player games. But rather party games, older titles, indies and emulation. Games like, Tetris Effect, Overcooked 2, Gang Beasts, Huntdown, Stardew Valley, The Sims 4, Dirt3 (oh yeah, remember when racing games still had split screen, good times)... Even 10 year old hardware is plenty these days. And I think we will keep the computer for many years to come (just need to switch to Linux)
2023 and I have played first time RDR2 , and I am dissapointed , I was overhyped with that game , I played about 15h , and have have such slow paste is just borring , baybe I will try game again before xmas on in January when i will have more time , but now I am very sad , now I am affraid to play Cyberpunk & Starfield , I am overhyped on those games to 😔
i know some folks of the linux community can be annoying, but i actually think it would be a fun video to compare the performance of the lowest cost system between windoes and a lightweight linux distro
And an actual light and fast OS too would be a nice comparison. Linux, even the lightest weight distros really arent as efficient and fast as people suggest when compared to *actual* fast and efficient OSes (AROS for example)
On this CPU, there won't be any problems running Linux. Sandy Bridge of 2011 and newer all run Linux well. I'm not 100% sure about the generation prior, but I'm thinking it too should be okay. It's not until you go back to the Core 2 Duo / Quad era that Linux starts to struggle with video playback due to graphics drivers. The desktop versions might be able to brute force compute fast enough to make up for hardware acceleration, but the laptops definitely can't. If you have a well-supported GPU. I'm not sure how well anything before that supports 64 bit (a lot of major distributions dropped 32 bit support). You'll also start to become more limited by which instructions the CPU supports. Basically, the comparison between Windows and Linux isn't useful because if you pick Linux favorable hardware (namely supported GPU for video playback), older systems do fine with Linux up to the age that they don't, at which point they also aren't going to have a good time in Windows.
When I built my first custom built pc in 2015, I started with i3-4160 and 8 gigs of ram and a 750ti. It served me well up until 2019 when I upgraded to rx 580 and i squeezed two more years out of that little CPU. Good memories. Mostly played single player games so I was happy with it. Edit:- and I can confirm that this is exactly the cooler we got back in the day and it came with pre applied thermal compound which worked well.
This was the processor I bought for my wife's (or girlfriend back then) PC back in 2015 as part of a budget build, and it was a great processor for the time. Since then, I've upgraded our PC to an i7 4790, which is still great today.
Not bad for a 2 core (hyperthreaded) CPU from a few years ago, and for that price, can't complain. Maybe not a gaming CPU anymore, but if you want to fire up some of the classics, or just for day to day usage within Windows, well you can't go wrong.
I am gaming using a core i3 3220 , which is 8 years old . I paired it with a gt 1030 and i am kidda enjoying playing games like Gta 5 , CS go , rocket league and even far cry 4,5 and new dawn with it . although the 1% lows are terrible but still i am able to play with it because as we say " satisfaction is the greatest happiness" Edit - i don't know why am i so underrated
3:15 Apparently Valve doesnt remove decals from the map like blood splatter they just end up becoming transparent textures and thats probably why the performance gets worst over the course of the match
i had a optiplex with a I3-4150 not that long ago paired with a radeon HD6970. i spent about 20€ total on the system total, and i could play most of the games i liked at the time
I grabbed a 4670K for £10 for a starter build made from a gutted 3020 Optiplex for my nephew. Paired it with a 480 8GB and I am pretty impressed with how it runs.
@@RandomGaminginHD Would be awesome if you can find a 4460 or the 4670k and do a vid on their performance in 2023 though, those little quad cores were awesome back in the day
I think everyones FPS is currently going down over the course of a match in CS2. This is especially true in Deathmatch. Competitve seems to be fine or much less effected by it.
It is very weird and funny to see you play minecraft, hope to see you test gpus with minecraft with rethinking voxels as shaders because it runs bad even on my RTX 2070!
I am always impressed by Haswell. Lesser chips struggle where Haswell pulls through. It has AVX 2 and it a great starting point for any PC Gamer that wants to explore the back catalog of games. I am not a huge fan of the i3s do to lack of power, but all of the i5s and i7s are just fabulous entry level CPUs for people that want to get their feet wet but don't know if it's something they want to spend a fortune on yet. Also great for kids that already like the soft titles like Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox, Terraria and their ilk. Games like Skyrim and GTA V run great when you pair one of the aforementioned processors with an inexpensive GPU, like the $60 1070 in this video or a $40 RX 580 8GB. And now you have a great experience at 1080p High or even 4K Low. There is still life left in the chips themselves so I find it sad that one has to mod one's bios or disable features to get Win 11 to run but Win 10 is still here for a couple of years.and is a smoother experience that was designed for that hardware anyway. Then you also have Linux. Yes, these chips still have some life in them for just the right situations and games.
I'd be interested to see how you're getting on with the whole build. I'm doing a similar project myself but I'm struggling to get a PSU (even junk tier) for less than the rest of the build put together
I once got a few(like 20ish) sealed Kingston A400 240gb SSD with a HP ProDesk(2013), a HP EliteDisplay 232, a HP ProBook(2015), a Dell Latitude E6430 and a few(like 5) Dell OEM Wi-Fi cards for the Optiplex 7010. All of that was for DISCARD on the office that i used to work, they had much better hardware tough... still discarding seems a bit dumb on their part, luckily a salvaged those stuff. The relation to this video is that the ProDesk was powered by a i5 4590 and 16gb(4x4gb) of DDR3 1600mhz CL10, for 0$ i think it's not that bad...
I've got an old tin box HP z400 with an Xeon W3565 3.2 quadcore, 12GB DDR3 1333Mhz.. a GTX 1050 2GB and an ssd. It should run Warzone but I can't seem to get it loaded. Is this cause I use a diverent system? If it's a simpel fix with a Bios update.. please let me know. Bin a fan for years of your work!
I've just bought a Dell AIO with 16GB of ram and an i7-7500 for £85 from ebay just to use as an ebay selling rig and for connecting a microscope (for board repair). I've found that it's pretty good for esports with average frame rates, very playable, and not bad for the money so I'm tempted to whack an external GPU on it for some proper gaming🤣🤣🤣🤣
The GTX 1070 is one of the best cards for its price back in 2016/2017. Its 8 GB VRam are still useful. I used it 5 years with the Ryzen 5 1600, very good pairing. Now my RX 6700 XT has about double the performance with the R7 3700X for decent money.
my first pc was with a core i3 4130, i upgraded to a I5 4570 then now i have a ryzen 5 3600x pretty big jump but the cpu and motherboard was only 69.93 from facebook market place
I had picked up a i7-4790 paired with an OEM motherboard to build my youngest brother a gaming PC about 3 years ago now. I required making a custom cable to connect the motherboard to the case buttons. And also had to bridge a couple of pins so it would think the original case was closed. Paired it with gtx 750 ti at the time. I think it is time to upgrade his GPU to a rx 580 8gb.
btw could you do... ehem... 720p resolutions benchmark? well... with this absolute cheap price cpu will be interest for starter/low budget pc user that i think some of them will accept using 720p as long they can get smooth experience of it, also for my curiousity because nowadays people seldom benchmarking using 720p.
I bought an i7 4790k in 2014, and I still use it with a gtx 1660 super , 2x 8gb ddr3. I don't think so I need to upgrade for now. It's still buttery smooth and I don't have any issues with it
4:01 please carry out this test in the “dogtown” district. This is significantly more demanding than other parts of the city. You'll need the new DLC called "Phantom Liberty" for this, but maybe it's worth it. On my channel I uploaded a video demonstration (normally I have over 55fps).
Can't get much cheaper than 1 pound I guess. Next video - I was PAID 5 pounds to take this old CPU & mobo off someone's hands! Let's see how it performs in 2023! ;-p
Now that developers moved on from the console ports from 360 to making games based around the idea there are at least 8 threads now for most computers, all of these strong single thread intel CPUs that are under 4c will be a detriment for games going forward, aside from indie games. AAA slop will just brute force everything with MOAR CORES
4170 is still quite good for a majority of games *obviously AAA recent releases are a problem* Haswell really holds up, especially if you were like me and picked up a i7 4790k when it was new. Only retired it in 2021.
I've got e e3-1240 and a gtx 1080, 16gb ddr3 ram and 1tb of sshd, 512gb of ssd and 320gb of hdd and i spent less than £200 on it, and i-m quite happy with it : )
I agree with the cs2 issue, ihave the same issue even though i have the i5 4430 i still encounter stuttering. There will be times that it will freeze and will never work anymore and i have to reset the pc. Luckily, i have an oncoming i7 4790 hopefully the cs2 stuttering will not happen anymore. ❤
Just for some context on the CS2 result; Ever since the beta people have been experiencing frame drops in deathmatch, at this point it might be fixed but i remember on release a pro player showed that even with his top end pc, every time he reached around 40 kills in deathmatch, his fps would be roughly a quarter of what he started with. People were theorizing it's from the buildup of decals like blood and bullet holes, which is worsened by the fact that they removed the command r_cleardecals.
Hey, I have built a 'scrap-yard like pc... would be awesome to send it you and you could have a 'play' with it, and then if you see fir, change / add parts to make it better
I know this doesn't really have to do with the video, but literally 2 days after watching your video I got a motherboard (MSI h81i) motherboard for free with a intel core i3 4170. Came without ram but I have plenty myself. Will be cool to test myself! And maybe sell later on.
when benchmarking a gaming pc I had the sam issue with cs 2 where the fps declined as the game progressed, I was testing a i7 4790 with the gtx 1660 super
In my opinion for most modern games you wanna go with the core i7 or i9. Otherwise for the other two models. The i5 and i3 are more emulation and retro pc beasts. You might get away with a few modern titles from today with Newer i5 models. As for celeron... Garbage. Can't even do ps1 via duckstation with only some upscaling.
I had a PC once with an i3-4170. I ended up giving it away to a friend of mine who set it up for their kid’s Minecraft playing. How appropriate, this video says the same. 😂
There will be a time where old games will not be playable on newer chips & video cards so having a separate computer to play the older games will be necessary especially as they will eventually move away from the X86 platform.
on lower end systems CS2 framerates on deathmaches tend to start out high and then gradually drop after a minute or two. there's not much you can do about it, just wait till valve fixes the game i guess.
man i regret not buying one when i had the chance. instead i went for a ryzen 2200g spending way more when i could've bought an i3 or 5 and a gpu. also yes one thing about haswell is system response. my pentium g3250 feels way faster than my ryzen on windows 10 while using up to 12w of power lol
When i went to london to london this summer i went to cex for the first time and bought an intel 4460 for 4£ as a souvenir. I still cant try it but definetely one my favorite souvenir i ever bought
I can remember the Intel stock cooler I had with my 4790. My God that thing was TERRIBLE at cooling! I was running Final Fantasy 15 one time and the CPU was hitting 92C! BTW, I noticed on CEX that there's an i3-4160 for 25p 😂
They used thermal paste under the heatspreader instead of soldering them. You could have the beefiest cooler, but the heat simply doesn't get there. Delidding was quite popular in the community. On my 3570K I could drop 15°C under load after replacing the paste with liquid metal.
I can confirm that CoD recompiles his shaders at every new driver update or just update of the game
Ah ok thought so
It is very painful @@RandomGaminginHD
Dead Island 2 does that too. It's only painful the first time you load them, after that it takes less than 10 seconds atleast on my pc
@@devisals I found it only painful on Cold War, I have to find something to do for an hour 😂 But other Cod games it's pretty quick.
@@devisalsrofl
The 4th gen Intel CPUS were legendary I still have a couple that are still functioning. Getting this CPU for a single pound is a steal
Im boutta see 10 ppl comment random stuff to try to get likes as fast as possible
you know the drill
"Im starting with the man in the mirror"
u?😊
You kinda did it?
Kind of ironic but my point still stands
I might not watch every video when it comes out, but it's always so fun to watch modern "reviews" on just random pc parts
It is impressive how good the used market for gaming in the UK is. Unfortunately over here people would rather hoard old tech rather than selling it for cheap.
This is what is so much fun - seeing what you can get out of the cheapest hardware you can find. I wonder what the cheapest GPU CEX have in stock is.
a gt 8800
I live in hope. because 2Gb ddr3 for laptops is currently 10p. another year (not far away now) and other computer components will cost so little, you could build a working system for probably less than £50 - less if you already have a computer case.
@@audiocoffeelaptops arent viable to upgrade, my msi i7 7700 1070ti laptop only cost like $400
you can. you can upgrade the memory and the hdd - done this far too often!! my next personal memory upgrade will be my ailing vista laptop. it's 17 years old and it does what I ask of it.
laptops that I acquire that lack a hdd get a hdd and a memory upgrade. then I install whichever flavour of linux best suits it. got ubuntu studio running on an old HP laptop purely because the soundcard on it is a good one and I can install cakewalk/lmms on it with no issue. the main cause for a lot of laptops getting disposed of, is because the mobo battery died (not the big bulky battery on the back of it, the small flat battery inside). there is no such thing as 'can't'. oh - and my asus all-in-one PC defo needs more ram - now that's the challenge!! (but once done, it'll be easy to do on the next one). my hobby? fixing computers. I don't usually make a song and dance about it because I don't have to. I also help people with their tech and guide them on how to use it. macs included! I love recent old tech. writing this on a 7 year old w10 craptop with a bust keyboard and other things on it starting to crap out - and I'll use it until the day it dies. and then I'll restore it. @@tatemushroom1002
Currently, it's an ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB for £2
This CPU is what I use for 5 years of gaming 😎
Man, I'm so sorry. I've been using a i5 6600 (non-k) for 8 years. Very little bottleneck for my GTX 1070.
really? I had a i5 4460 paired with a rx 580 for a few years and it was an absolute disaster. the card was literally too fast for the i5@@SiXiam
@@sms-ux5klThat doesn't make much sense. My i5 is a little over 20% faster than your i5 and my GPU about 30% faster. Hard to believe your CPU was such an extreme GPU bottleneck. Unless you are playing CPU bound games. Fortnite is well known for that among others.
@@SiXiam Fortnite, gta 5, battlefield 1(disaster), warzone, black ops Cold War.
@@sms-ux5klBro these games struggle even on some modern CPU's, my R5 3600 Bottleneck my 6650XT on gta 5 💀
I just upgraded from this to a 10100, it served me right while it lasted
how much faster does ur pc and gaming feel
@@quintogala8661 a lot better before on rdr2 for example i was getting the fps seen in this video now i am getting 60-70
@@camillethesteelshadow1549 okay am I also exited moving from i5 3470 to a 10400f
@@quintogala8661why not go with a ryzen 5 3600? Has a great upgrade path probably will be able to upgrade to a ryzen 9 5950x in 5 years for less than £70
You should've got a 10400f, it's not that much more expensive and it's WAAAY better in every way possible. Anyway, have a good time with you new CPU, it's not the best but it's still really capable !
Might want to list the exact processor name in the description or even title, so that people who specifically look for benchmarks of rhis CPU will find this.
the 4170 is still a capable CPU... Just not for gaming.
I used this in my office machine till last year when i upgraded to 8th gen i5 PC.
The biggest limitation i believe was the RAM. 8GB is not enough anymore. Not even for office work
While it’s still capable a i5 of the same gen can be got for very little more and preforms way better
As someone who does multimedia on a Core 2, yup, the old chips are still capable, but not for high end gaming.
@@HappyBeezerStudios which core 2 Duo,Quad,Extreme or centrino
@@CollynPlayz more precisely a Xeon
@@HappyBeezerStudios cool
I had this cpu fpor about half a year or so this year, it was such a big upgrade from my core 2 quad and i even made a video on it😅 recently upgraded to the i5 4570 which was also a big improvement as it can now turbo boost and has 4 cores lol
This gen has been peak for some price category basically since its release. Now we're rounding out the 1 dollar price point, and its still ruling for that price.
Love the principle of this build and video. Not everyone can afford to do more. Inspires folks to make do and be challenged by it.
For minecraft you should use the sodium mod, it tends to increase performance significantly and usually fixes some of the stutter, as it allows the game to use all of the cores in your system, as opposed to just one, and most people use this mod as even with more powerful cpus the game has performance and stuttering issues
My girlfriend still uses my old i5 4570. That is her monstrous "gaming PC" :) I still think it's impressive of how much fun you can have with old hardware... She doesn't play the latest AAA single player games. But rather party games, older titles, indies and emulation. Games like, Tetris Effect, Overcooked 2, Gang Beasts, Huntdown, Stardew Valley, The Sims 4, Dirt3 (oh yeah, remember when racing games still had split screen, good times)... Even 10 year old hardware is plenty these days. And I think we will keep the computer for many years to come (just need to switch to Linux)
2023 and I have played first time RDR2 , and I am dissapointed , I was overhyped with that game , I played about 15h , and have have such slow paste is just borring , baybe I will try game again before xmas on in January when i will have more time , but now I am very sad , now I am affraid to play Cyberpunk & Starfield , I am overhyped on those games to 😔
I think a revisit to AMD's FX series processors would be cool to watch and see if they are capable of anything in 2023.
No it wouldn't, and they weren't even capable when new
Makes for a pretty decent keychain imo. In all seriousness though, they're not quite obsolete, but they're well on their way.
They were already pretty terrible back then.
I'd rather revisit 1st gen Ryzen
hey, I'm using a AMD A8-7600 paired with RX580, maxed ram of 32GB 2133 ddr3, and most games play high settings 1080p 65+fps
To be honest anything AMD before Ryzen was trash
i know some folks of the linux community can be annoying, but i actually think it would be a fun video to compare the performance of the lowest cost system between windoes and a lightweight linux distro
And an actual light and fast OS too would be a nice comparison. Linux, even the lightest weight distros really arent as efficient and fast as people suggest when compared to *actual* fast and efficient OSes (AROS for example)
@@beezle1976Interesting, but when the best it can do is a text-based browser, it's not very practical.
On this CPU, there won't be any problems running Linux. Sandy Bridge of 2011 and newer all run Linux well. I'm not 100% sure about the generation prior, but I'm thinking it too should be okay. It's not until you go back to the Core 2 Duo / Quad era that Linux starts to struggle with video playback due to graphics drivers. The desktop versions might be able to brute force compute fast enough to make up for hardware acceleration, but the laptops definitely can't. If you have a well-supported GPU. I'm not sure how well anything before that supports 64 bit (a lot of major distributions dropped 32 bit support). You'll also start to become more limited by which instructions the CPU supports. Basically, the comparison between Windows and Linux isn't useful because if you pick Linux favorable hardware (namely supported GPU for video playback), older systems do fine with Linux up to the age that they don't, at which point they also aren't going to have a good time in Windows.
The comparison would obviously come down to tasks people would to with them. Including gaming.
A sweet jew'o core paired with a glorious jew'o channel ram while playing some nice call of jew'ty!
When I built my first custom built pc in 2015, I started with i3-4160 and 8 gigs of ram and a 750ti. It served me well up until 2019 when I upgraded to rx 580 and i squeezed two more years out of that little CPU. Good memories. Mostly played single player games so I was happy with it. Edit:- and I can confirm that this is exactly the cooler we got back in the day and it came with pre applied thermal compound which worked well.
Ladies and gentlemen. We are now in a world where retro is running 95%+ of the best games ever made using a one quid CPU.
This was the processor I bought for my wife's (or girlfriend back then) PC back in 2015 as part of a budget build, and it was a great processor for the time. Since then, I've upgraded our PC to an i7 4790, which is still great today.
how does that dinosaur of an i7 hold up today
@@GewelReal It's not bad, but with it being combined with a GTX 970, it's certainly showing its age
@@RedBeardedGriff yeah a lot of games nowadays really want at least 6-8 cores or else you get nasty stutter
@@Nintenboy01 That's why I tend to avoid playing most newer AAA games with it today.
Not bad for a 2 core (hyperthreaded) CPU from a few years ago, and for that price, can't complain. Maybe not a gaming CPU anymore, but if you want to fire up some of the classics, or just for day to day usage within Windows, well you can't go wrong.
This CPU is what I use from 2014 -2024 . i3 -4170 + GT 730
I paired this CPU with a 750 ti back in the day, matched up really well.
Same here, but with its little brother, the i3-4150. Great budget build for the time!
@@Rockden Same here, as living room PC in a low profile case with the graphics card having it's loud fans swapped for more silent ones
I love clicking autoplay when i am drunk on your videos because they are so entertaining to listen to
How does it compare to the 14900k….
….if you disable all but 2 e-cores!! 😂
Pound shop pc challenge 😀
I am gaming using a core i3 3220 , which is 8 years old . I paired it with a gt 1030 and i am kidda enjoying playing games like Gta 5 , CS go , rocket league and even far cry 4,5 and new dawn with it . although the 1% lows are terrible but still i am able to play with it because as we say " satisfaction is the greatest happiness"
Edit - i don't know why am i so underrated
Well I never lost hope
3:15 Apparently Valve doesnt remove decals from the map like blood splatter they just end up becoming transparent textures and thats probably why the performance gets worst over the course of the match
esports ready
Above expectations for 1.00 pound CPU for sure. I'm sure it won't be too bad for a Minecraft PC to give to a kid or something like that 😂
Im looking to upgrade my gpu i have a i5 3570 and 8gb ram and a 500watts powersuply can i upgrade my gpu to rx580?
I used a r5 3600 and rx580 on a cheap 450w psu for for almost a year no issues, and when you google it, it recommends atleast 450w for a rx580
A cheapest build video would be pretty cool.
i had a optiplex with a I3-4150 not that long ago paired with a radeon HD6970. i spent about 20€ total on the system total, and i could play most of the games i liked at the time
Banger vid as always Steve! Brings back memories, I had one of these back when they first released but upgraded to 4670K not too long afterwards
Nice upgrade, I had the 4460 myself. Loved it!
I grabbed a 4670K for £10 for a starter build made from a gutted 3020 Optiplex for my nephew. Paired it with a 480 8GB and I am pretty impressed with how it runs.
@@RandomGaminginHD Would be awesome if you can find a 4460 or the 4670k and do a vid on their performance in 2023 though, those little quad cores were awesome back in the day
I think everyones FPS is currently going down over the course of a match in CS2. This is especially true in Deathmatch. Competitve seems to be fine or much less effected by it.
It is very weird and funny to see you play minecraft, hope to see you test gpus with minecraft with rethinking voxels as shaders because it runs bad even on my RTX 2070!
Interesting video, like!
I am always impressed by Haswell. Lesser chips struggle where Haswell pulls through. It has AVX 2 and it a great starting point for any PC Gamer that wants to explore the back catalog of games. I am not a huge fan of the i3s do to lack of power, but all of the i5s and i7s are just fabulous entry level CPUs for people that want to get their feet wet but don't know if it's something they want to spend a fortune on yet. Also great for kids that already like the soft titles like Minecraft, Fortnite, Roblox, Terraria and their ilk. Games like Skyrim and GTA V run great when you pair one of the aforementioned processors with an inexpensive GPU, like the $60 1070 in this video or a $40 RX 580 8GB. And now you have a great experience at 1080p High or even 4K Low. There is still life left in the chips themselves so I find it sad that one has to mod one's bios or disable features to get Win 11 to run but Win 10 is still here for a couple of years.and is a smoother experience that was designed for that hardware anyway. Then you also have Linux. Yes, these chips still have some life in them for just the right situations and games.
MEDION review please 😊
The Uk is the only place somebody will sell something for 1 dollar and not J give it to them for free. “ I need that pound.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Awesome performance from this CPU 😮
I had i3 4170 with 750ti 2018-2022 it served me good for my needs and in 2022 i finally decided to upgrade to i5 11400f and rtx 3050
I'd be interested to see how you're getting on with the whole build. I'm doing a similar project myself but I'm struggling to get a PSU (even junk tier) for less than the rest of the build put together
I once got a few(like 20ish) sealed Kingston A400 240gb SSD with a HP ProDesk(2013), a HP EliteDisplay 232, a HP ProBook(2015), a Dell Latitude E6430 and a few(like 5) Dell OEM Wi-Fi cards for the Optiplex 7010. All of that was for DISCARD on the office that i used to work, they had much better hardware tough... still discarding seems a bit dumb on their part, luckily a salvaged those stuff. The relation to this video is that the ProDesk was powered by a i5 4590 and 16gb(4x4gb) of DDR3 1600mhz CL10, for 0$ i think it's not that bad...
I've got an old tin box HP z400 with an Xeon W3565 3.2 quadcore, 12GB DDR3 1333Mhz.. a GTX 1050 2GB and an ssd. It should run Warzone but I can't seem to get it loaded. Is this cause I use a diverent system?
If it's a simpel fix with a Bios update.. please let me know.
Bin a fan for years of your work!
I've just bought a Dell AIO with 16GB of ram and an i7-7500 for £85 from ebay just to use as an ebay selling rig and for connecting a microscope (for board repair). I've found that it's pretty good for esports with average frame rates, very playable, and not bad for the money so I'm tempted to whack an external GPU on it for some proper gaming🤣🤣🤣🤣
The GTX 1070 is one of the best cards for its price back in 2016/2017.
Its 8 GB VRam are still useful.
I used it 5 years with the Ryzen 5 1600, very good pairing.
Now my RX 6700 XT has about double the performance with the R7 3700X for decent money.
GTX 1060 3/6gb, GTX 1050 ti, GTX 970, RX 470/480/570/580
its slightly slower brother the i3-4130 was Digital Foundry's budget PC champ circa 2014 paired with the 750 Ti
my first pc was with a core i3 4130, i upgraded to a I5 4570 then now i have a ryzen 5 3600x pretty big jump but the cpu and motherboard was only 69.93 from facebook market place
My mom was using an i3 4130 until I got her a Ryzen 5 2600x. She can finally play and watch a movie at the same time xD
What game she's playing
@@ulfricstormcloak7142 7 days to die, Minecraft with mods and shaders, grounded and sims
I had picked up a i7-4790 paired with an OEM motherboard to build my youngest brother a gaming PC about 3 years ago now. I required making a custom cable to connect the motherboard to the case buttons. And also had to bridge a couple of pins so it would think the original case was closed. Paired it with gtx 750 ti at the time. I think it is time to upgrade his GPU to a rx 580 8gb.
Its a 40w cpu
Add hd 6350 graphics or gt 1650
16 gb ram
PASSIVE COOLING - cheap arctic
And U got 100% silent pc for media - 0 fans + power efficient
btw could you do...
ehem...
720p resolutions benchmark? well... with this absolute cheap price cpu will be interest for starter/low budget pc user that i think some of them will accept using 720p as long they can get smooth experience of it, also for my curiousity because nowadays people seldom benchmarking using 720p.
I bought an i7 4790k in 2014, and I still use it with a gtx 1660 super , 2x 8gb ddr3. I don't think so I need to upgrade for now. It's still buttery smooth and I don't have any issues with it
4:01 please carry out this test in the “dogtown” district. This is significantly more demanding than other parts of the city. You'll need the new DLC called "Phantom Liberty" for this, but maybe it's worth it. On my channel I uploaded a video demonstration (normally I have over 55fps).
Can't get much cheaper than 1 pound I guess. Next video - I was PAID 5 pounds to take this old CPU & mobo off someone's hands! Let's see how it performs in 2023! ;-p
i used i5-4760k for really long time and i couldnt say it was bad
cs2 was completly playable but i do use 1024x768, so... yeah
Now that developers moved on from the console ports from 360 to making games based around the idea there are at least 8 threads now for most computers, all of these strong single thread intel CPUs that are under 4c will be a detriment for games going forward, aside from indie games. AAA slop will just brute force everything with MOAR CORES
4170 is still quite good for a majority of games *obviously AAA recent releases are a problem* Haswell really holds up, especially if you were like me and picked up a i7 4790k when it was new. Only retired it in 2021.
I've managed to play a few games pretty well on an old Xeon 4C/8T DDR3 setup I've bodged together off Ebay bits and paired with my RX 6600.
I've got e e3-1240 and a gtx 1080, 16gb ddr3 ram and 1tb of sshd, 512gb of ssd and 320gb of hdd and i spent less than £200 on it, and i-m quite happy with it : )
bro in poland you can buy a Intel Pentium G3260 3.3 GHz for 0,50 zł (50 gr) , thats 10p (0,098 pound) bet it can run crisis
my first desktop cpu (back in 2014) was a similar i3 4130, was great for gaming. I'm still on the same platform with an i7 4790K xD
I agree with the cs2 issue, ihave the same issue even though i have the i5 4430 i still encounter stuttering. There will be times that it will freeze and will never work anymore and i have to reset the pc. Luckily, i have an oncoming i7 4790 hopefully the cs2 stuttering will not happen anymore. ❤
I got a free pc with an i3 6100 in I can upgrade it to a i5 but won't be free. pc even had ddr4 ram 8gb
This is probably the best price to performance CPU lol, keeping in mind that this can get on Avg 46 FPS in RDR2 just for £1
Just for some context on the CS2 result; Ever since the beta people have been experiencing frame drops in deathmatch, at this point it might be fixed but i remember on release a pro player showed that even with his top end pc, every time he reached around 40 kills in deathmatch, his fps would be roughly a quarter of what he started with.
People were theorizing it's from the buildup of decals like blood and bullet holes, which is worsened by the fact that they removed the command r_cleardecals.
Im currently running r5 5600 with a amd stock cooler. While gaming it averages 80c under 24% usage. Is this normal?
About cs2. That's just how deathmatch works now. Doesn't matter the specs, you'll end up at sub 100 by the end of the match.
2 cores 4 threads of Haswell. More equal to an i5 2400 than anything else which is hilarious. i5 2400 with AVX 2!
bro my dad bought a prebuilt pc with i3 4170 for 250$ (no gpu, just basic optilex) last year and you got the cpu for 1 pound ;_;
awesome vid as always, have you given intel presentmon a try for benchmarking? its really a nice new tool for show cpu/gpu bottlenecks
Pentium g4560 is also £1 at CEX...perhaps worth a look at for your next video?
Hey, I have built a 'scrap-yard like pc... would be awesome to send it you and you could have a 'play' with it, and then if you see fir, change / add parts to make it better
CS2 has a memory leak issue or something like that. The performance indeed degrades over time. The fix is to restart the game every now and then.
I know this doesn't really have to do with the video, but literally 2 days after watching your video I got a motherboard (MSI h81i) motherboard for free with a intel core i3 4170. Came without ram but I have plenty myself. Will be cool to test myself! And maybe sell later on.
I have an i3-4160 in an old optiplex I bought for $10 and it can run Fallout New Vegas without a GPU.
when benchmarking a gaming pc I had the sam issue with cs 2 where the fps declined as the game progressed, I was testing a i7 4790 with the gtx 1660 super
CS2 clearly suffers from resource leaks, if performance degrades over time. Reddit suggests it's related to decals not disposed properly.
In my opinion for most modern games you wanna go with the core i7 or i9. Otherwise for the other two models. The i5 and i3 are more emulation and retro pc beasts. You might get away with a few modern titles from today with Newer i5 models. As for celeron... Garbage. Can't even do ps1 via duckstation with only some upscaling.
How nice. CEX blocks you if you are not in the UK. Though they don't tell you a real reason.
Text-to-speech bot needs more voltage. That intro was barely English.
I had a PC once with an i3-4170. I ended up giving it away to a friend of mine who set it up for their kid’s Minecraft playing. How appropriate, this video says the same. 😂
these chips have still a purpose for lighter tasks, for an office pc they're great
" its unrealistic to use a 4th gen cpu with rtx"
my friend is using i5-2400 with 2080 super lol
It's a budget build alright - pick up the £1 CPU in person to save on postage.😅😅
There will be a time where old games will not be playable on newer chips & video cards so having a separate computer to play the older games will be necessary especially as they will eventually move away from the X86 platform.
on lower end systems CS2 framerates on deathmaches tend to start out high and then gradually drop after a minute or two. there's not much you can do about it, just wait till valve fixes the game i guess.
man i regret not buying one when i had the chance. instead i went for a ryzen 2200g spending way more when i could've bought an i3 or 5 and a gpu.
also yes one thing about haswell is system response. my pentium g3250 feels way faster than my ryzen on windows 10 while using up to 12w of power lol
How about i9 7900X? It's ending this year I mean the updates for it.Also anyone else interested feel free to like so he can see ig
Would be more realistic to pair that CPU with a 1050 Ti, and that's on a good day.
As someone with an overclocked 3570K and a 1060 I would say the 1050 Ti is optimistic.
Plays S.T.O. good, the gyx 1070 is a good match for such games
Honestly i dunno how people even had this cpu when you literally can grt a i5 2400 for like 3$
How can you find these so cheap? In Turkey that cpu almost worth 10 pounds second hand.
if playing MC with ancient hardware, sodium makes the game wayyyyy playable and most of the people use it even with beefy hardware.
When i went to london to london this summer i went to cex for the first time and bought an intel 4460 for 4£ as a souvenir. I still cant try it but definetely one my favorite souvenir i ever bought
I can remember the Intel stock cooler I had with my 4790. My God that thing was TERRIBLE at cooling!
I was running Final Fantasy 15 one time and the CPU was hitting 92C!
BTW, I noticed on CEX that there's an i3-4160 for 25p 😂
They used thermal paste under the heatspreader instead of soldering them. You could have the beefiest cooler, but the heat simply doesn't get there.
Delidding was quite popular in the community. On my 3570K I could drop 15°C under load after replacing the paste with liquid metal.
when you test minecraft, are you using java or bedrock?