As some have pointed out at 2:40 the PC is indeed doing stuff in the background hence the high CPU usage. This little segment was a bit of a joke, but I should clarify that it doesn’t take much to get this thing to max out under Windows 10. (Like opening a browser) 😂
G'day Random Steve, 🤔Background Internet Usage, 🤨Looks like it was busy skimming all your data & sending it off to Microsoft...😂 I have a HTPC which was fine with W7 using a Pentium G4400 + 8GB 2400-DDR4 for many years, but when I upgraded it to W10 even just trying to play a Movie at 1080p it would get slow downs so now upgraded to an i3-6100 & it is happy again. Unless you are deliberately building a Retro PC I definitely agree i3 is a better buy these days as the added HT is a big help for when there are Windows Background Tasks.
Each Windows is just a bigger bloatware than previous 😁Anyway, in this case if you do not want Win 7 grab some tiny Linux distro. Basic stuff like surfing, watching videos, typing ... would work just fine.
You should use Process Explorer in this case, it can tell you a whole lot more than Task Manager..... There is a lot of unnecessary cr@p running in the background, some of which cannot be turned off in services.msc and you have to go into the registry.......
Meh, it's still better than a Celeron. Celeron CPUs have like 64kb L1 cache and no L2 or L3 cache. This cache is crucial for storing the upcoming CPU instructions. If you had (a nonexistent) 5ghz CPU with 128kb of cache, it would perform slower than a 2.5ghz CPU with 512k cache. Cache is *that important* Your whole instruction set will be bogged down, and there will be mega-stuttering with every action you perform, from right-clicking to scrolling webpages. Celeron is the bottom of the barrel, and this CPU stands above Celeron. Never underestimate the power of the CPU cache. Doesn't matter how many cores you have or how fast your clock speed is, if the CPU can't find its next instruction (which resides in the cache) quickly, then it's going to sit around twiddling its thumbs.
@@RandomGaminginHD I even had a pentium g3420 back in the days before i got an i7 and i used to play battlefield 3 and 4 on it very fine, although the i5 and i7 were clearly superior.
I live in Sweden , and here situation is just crazy with GPU majority GPU are in range of 500kr (50€) , you can buy in that range R7250x , GTX750ti , GTX760 , GTX970 , so in Sweden market is just crazy , weak GPU can cost as much decent ones ! , I dunno how are prices where you live , but in 2023 prices have droped and GPU are so cheap , 50€ GTX970 with 4gb is bare minimum in my opinion , even on lowest budget . (BTW I have missread your comment , you are right 8 years ago 750ti ruled)
I would prefer a higher core count though since I run virtualization from my TrueNAS Scale machine. For a simple file server using TrueNAS Core it might be ok as long as you don't overload it with apps and services.
But then again an i3 or even i5 of the generation is not much more expensive and has a lot more headroom whilst it'll idle at similar power consumption as a Core i CPU
@@helenHTID It actually runs well, not on 100% for no apparent reason. But, here's the catch: Arch Linux with a very light xfce4. Dual boot with Windows XP. They share the 80 gb HDD, half each. In Win XP I can play some old games maxed out.
I think the random bouts of 100% usage at “idle”/sitting on the desktop may be from Windows antivirus processes or something similar. I’ve seen it happen often on my laptop with a 7300HQ; I’d notice CPU utilization at 30-45% or more and when I’d go to check task manager it was always the Windows defender/anti-malware process(es) running in the background (especially from a first boot after a long time of being completely off or when connecting to an internet connection). So it may very well be the same for the Pentium you tested, as I’m sure booting up a “new” or different hardware combo (even if it’s the same boot drive you use with everything else) could’ve triggered Windows into running a scan or something like that
Windows checking for updates is also capable of 100% CPU usage on like a8 laptops. I know the CPUs aren't great, but Windows Update shouldn't be *that* heavy.
@@pyro226Lots of decompression and file moving/checking, that'll eat through any CPU if the power is available. They should add a resource limit on the process though, maybe pin it to half the cores or something
Nice to see old Haswell CPUs still reviewed on from you. I recently saved an old i5-4690 PC from the trash. I'm going to build a low cost, low end gaming PC for older games out of it.
Considering that the cooler is compatible up until LGA1200, £5 is a good deal for a spare, emergency cooler that’s easy to install and take off. It even comes with a free paperweight that doubles as a CPU 😂
I use that CPU in my home server running a reverse proxy, valtwarden, SMB server and Plex on a Linux OS. It has HW transcoding, it's very power efficient and fine for the job.
I'm doing the same (SMB, Plex) on a i5-4570T. About twice as fast as the Pentium but you don't need much for SMB or Plex as long as you keep the transcoding to a minimum. Running Kubuntu 22.04.
One thing to remember is that Pentiums of that era lacked even the first iteration of AVX. If a shortage of cores/threading doesn't get to them first, then the lack of any modern instruction sets will.
i hope Intel keeps the Pentium and Celeron lineups alive but turns them into more mobile-like, high-efficiency, "gets the job done" everyday CPUs. Pentiums could get 1 or 2 P-cores and 4 E-cores and Celerons E-cores only
@@nooneinpart there’s actually no physical limitation for hyperthreading on E cores more of a limitation intel sets because only higher end P cores get hyperthreading making it more enticing to step up to the a higher p core count model
@@josephdias3968hyper threading does come at a space cost. Which is why ecores don't have it since e cores aren't really about energy efficiency and more about space efficiency.
If you live in the UK, at CEX you can get an i5-4440 (or 4460 but they're almost the same minus a small base clock difference) for £5 with a 2 year warranty and that will do SO much better than this. Thats what I did, I bought an office PC with an i3-4160 on ebay for £30 and then put the i5-4440 into it with an RX 570 (also from CEX with 2 year warranty) in and I was gaming in new titles (except for unoptimised trash) at over 30fps and well over 60fps in competitive titles (100's in some like CS-Go and Rocket League). The RX 570 has 8Gb of Vram which is nice, and was only £90, which along with a new 500w PSU from amazon brought the total cost to just over £180 all in. I upgraded it to an i7-4790k recently for about £40 from CEX and the 8 threads and much higher base clock really do make a difference (especially in newer titles that want at least 8 threads). It has the same 4 cores but with the higher base clock and hyperthreading in some games I've seen upwards of 50-60% better performance and much higher 1% lows. The total cost after the i7-4790k was about £220, which considering I am playing Baldurs Gate 3 and other newer titles with around 60fps on low settings at 1080p or 30fps at 1440p with medium settings, I'm very happy with! Some titles that are well optimised like Forza Horizon 5 I have running at medium/high settings at close to 4k (I don't know the exact resolution but it has one that is about 80% of the way to 4k) at 30fps locked, which is awesome considering the price.
Decent build I've got an i7 3770, paired with an RX 560. It works wonders in all of the games I play at 1080p. I may upgrade my GPU to an RX 6600 to maximize the platform
you know, if you have kids or young adults in your family, or folks with physical limitations and they have the desire to learn about building a computer, this type of hardware would be a great place for them to start out and build their skill and confidence.
Totally! When I started, a computer store had an old computer with a Cyrix cpu, 166mhz if I recall correctly. It was almost the era of the gigahertz, so it was quite cheap. And that’s what I used to get some practice with assembling a pc! And I’ve also ran the Oni demo, couple of frames per second. Amused me enough that I remember it over 20 years later lol
Many years ago, one of my then girlfriend's kids was getting interested in how computers were put together. At the time they all shared one 'family PC'. So I bought an older, but still usable PC, took it to pieces, boxed it up and gave it to him for his birthday. Back then motherboards still had jumpers for CPU and bus speeds etc, and autoconfig wasn't very advanced. I guided him as he rebuilt it and eventually got it working. He liked that PC a lot, and it cost very little, so no worries about damaging it.
I bought the g3258 pentium anniversary when it launched, and it was a huge mistake. Gaming had already moved away from dual core, requiring at least 4 threads, and soon after even an i3 2c/4t was outdated. Paired with a gt710 its probably the highest power-to-performance windows xp machine you can make
It's a budget CPU, never designed to run the latest and greatest games. But gaming is only one of many tasks computers can do, and a lot of them don't need lots of cores and threads, nor a ridiculous clock speed. That's why Intel and AMD produce and sell older tech. Unfortunately, they can't stop people buying the WRONG tool for the job they want doing.
Same here, bought it to play games thinking that overclocking it would be enough to play modern titles. But at that point a dual core was simply not enough for many of the latest games. Still, it was fun messing around with an unlocked processor, my first experience with overclocking.
@@borgestheborg Yeah. We were duped by intel and tech-youtube. I remember lots of people recommending it at a last hurrah for pentium and overclocking monster for the budget oriented gaming build. It turned out to be tech-youtube intel marketing nonsense in disguise to move some slightly borked i3 silicon
@@lopwidth7343 It was launched at an unfortunate time. The 7th gen consoles effectively had 2-3 cpu cores, so most games from that era were optimised for 2 cores and heavily offloaded to the GPU where they could. 8th gen consoles featured 8 cores that were individually even weaker than the previous gen(relative to the state of the art), so games pivoted to heavily multithreaded architectures that the g3258 couldn't handle. The result was a CPU that got headline grabbing price to performance on slightly older AAA's but had no futureproofing at all. Not sure it was overhyped though, I remember a lot of discussion about it's futureproofing at the time and benchmarks from big reviewers made it obvious that it was already struggling to run highly multithreaded games.
When testing so old CPUs it would be nice if you can do OpenSSH & Wireguard as well as a Docker build benchmark - such CPUs can be the perfect low cost homeserver.
Funny but I just replaced a bunch of these at my work. We run our sales support with on a bunch of old HPs ProDesks with 2019 LTSC. They basically answer phones and do email so nothing more was needed until recently when a combo of Outlook, the Indexer, and our anti-malware started causing issues. Ended up replacing them with a stack of 4570s that I had kicking around.
Try pairing it with a AMD Radeon. There is a known driver overhead issue with Nvidia vs AMD, quite noticeable with weak CPUs. Something to do with AMD using GPU hardware scheduling vs Nvidia doing it in CPU.
You know, in videos like that I would be super curious how these sorts of chips would do on emulations, playing like gameboy, n64, sega, stuff like that. I get if thats to dodgy for your tastes though, but it would be fun content.
It is because of the windows telemetry. I have a running currently C2Duo which runs as well as one of my i5s and guess what? No internet. Food for thought P.S. On Linux it would fly 😅
I think that might even be a bit low power for my next build, which is a "Football Manager machine"(as he put it) for a mate. Thank you for doing proper reviews of this stuff, though. It's ridiculous hard to find a video of lower cost CPUs without the entire thing being a massive pisstake.
Thanks showing how to build cheap pcs that can still play games .thanks for that.when im financially stable enough to get or build a pc ill always take ur advice. Thanks for ur time and effort. Cheers
Up to the end of 2021 I was using a G3420 based PC. It is slightly slower version of the G3440 used in the video. I used it with a HDD which was the main throttler of the system, but still it could run some games - no problem running Skyrim, World of Tanks or World of Warcraft classic. These aren't very demanding titles by today standards, but still they were perfectly playable. Unfortunately Witcher 3 was not.
That makes a decent HTPC CPU. Remembers me of buying a board, 2 GB DDR3 and some Pentium Ivy Bridge for 20 €. The Pentium was weak, but turned out to be better than my old Phenom X4 rig at a fraction of its power draw. The times were poverty, so I was still using the Phenom 9600 system as a HTPC to watch movies in bed. The machine was also terribly loud. These CPUs still run many lighter games.
Interesting results to be sure. Might be a good choice for an ultra low budget general computing system for a student running a Linux distro. I suggest Linux because you can still get some full featured distros that will run on a dual core with 2 GBs of RAM without issue.
Dual core cpus just don't cut it nowadays. Even if you are still running windows 7 like me. My secondary system is a Phenom II dual core and my mobo allows unlocking of up to 2 more cores. I got lucky and got what was actually a 3.3GHz Phenom II quad core being sold as a dual core at a dual core price. The difference in performance is palpable w/o doing any benchmarking between running it as a dual core as opposed to a quad core. As a quad core it's still usable for basic tasks(it is paired with 8GB of DDR3-1600 dual channel), but virtually the only task I use it for now is running Turbotax because it requires win10 to run and I despise any win version above 7. I still run win7 on my main system which is only slightly less ancient(FX-8350,32GB DDR3-1866). The difference between the Phenom and FX is night and day. My FX system is actually perfectly usable still for me and runs 24/7. Of course that is because it has 8 cores and 32GB of ram. I hope to be able to score some good deals on hardware this coming holiday season to build a new Ryzen system but am happy that my 10yr old system still gets the job done...
I bought an old celeron(G1840) from China for 3 euros, with postage included lol. Just to test a dumpster found 1150 mobo (9020sff). I was surpised that it could handle 1080p youtube, twitch etc. It was very responsive for office tasks, didnt try gaming ofc lol. With a crap psu the whole system(ssd+1stick of 8gb ram) was idling at 26 w. Might keep it as a server with a xeon upgrade in the future.
Lucked out finding a 1150 MSI B85M-E45 matx board earlier this Monday myself at the junkyard electronics container, thought eh I'll try the 4670k i got for free with a dead motherboard like 1.5 years ago expecting it too simply be a dead motherboard like the next one i found. it works fine outside of dual channel not working at all so single channel ram & 0 fan control together with missing the pci-e lock. Thought it was the motherboard not working as it should & was like eh whatever I'll build a test rig out of it for now. Got a Noctua nh-u12 of some variety mounted on that board, i found that also in the scrapyard on a socket 775 pc like 2 - 3 weeks before that. Below the heatsink there was no cpu which got a laugh out of me, like it was mounted down properly hooked up & everything in all 4 corners. Then yesterday i found another board A gigabyte Z87-DS3H that had a cpu in it & saw that it was a 4770k, which is a pretty nice cpu still & one of the best for socket 1150. (Though unfortunately the motherboard has a common fault causing these boards too " appear broken ".) It does actually still start shorting the 24 pin green power on pin & a ground next to it too force the powersupply on regardless which eventually will send some voltage too chipset & wake it up as it should. (It's a chip that's supposed too communicate with chipset & respond too the power on front panel header that's broken or shorted out & also send power to usb, ps2 ports, network port etc...) It's fixable but i don't have a hot air station & the Chip is gonna be like 35 - 60$ with shipping to Sweden so I'll bide my time with the matx B85 board instead as i already got an AM4 build with a Ryzen 5600.
I have one of these sitting in a bin of misc. It's literally not worth the hassle of shipping to sell it, haha. If I happen upon a cheap/free mobo for it maybe I'll see if it's enough for a basic NAS or DNS-blackhole. With something hardly more powerful than a SBC (and weaker than some) those type of projects are likely the only things that make sense. Lots of cheap or free bare-bones optiplex systems which are compatible though thankfully.
I wonder how this CPU would do under Linux, as opposed to Windows 10? I’m not talking about gaming, but maybe things like TH-cam video playback would work better?
2:40 windows update does this. i have no idea what requires so much processing power and memory but windows update has always been like this so don't be surprised. actually its not as bad on windows 10 as it was on windows 7 believe it or not, it just requires more hard drive clicking nowadays. edit: pro tip: go to windows update -> advanced options -> delivery optimization -> advance options -> select absolute bandwidth -> check both boxes and type 999 on both text boxes as well. this will make windows update use up to 999Mb of internet transfer to download updates and will get them done way faster since it only uses 20Mb by default.
@@nooneinpart i believe some features were turned on by default but i can't remember anymore. the defender on windows 10 automatically runs virus scans when user is inactive or uppon new install, which is dumb, honestly, considering it only scans the os's files and folders.
Don't worry about the CPU usage, it's just Windows sending you telemetry to 3rd parties for "usage anylsis". Scary, but true...😮 O&O Shutup helps with this b.s. ...
3:00 looking at the graphs you can see the SSD useage spiked with the cpu usage so windows was probably installing some updates in the background, which usually does not take a lot of cpu power on a normal cpu
I have an even older Pentium e5300(2-core in an hp s5220y, 4gig ram) from 2008. I use it as a local Linux server that runs Apache, php, mysql, docker etc. It's perfect as a simple home/test server. Don't discount these old systems... you can still find a use for them... just not gaming.
Hey man, Would love to see a 1060 6gb graphics card in 2023. I'm still running one and I'm so tempted to upgrade to 6700xt or 7700xt, but it still plays all my games at 1080p easily. would love to get your thoughts.
I think you mentioned great point how much more multiheaded games have become, i remember when oc'd Pentium g3258 (lga1150) could compete against 4670k and 4790k in quite few games, but that chip aged like milk only couple years later it got demolished by higher core count chips and in some cases it either couldnt boot and just had unplayable performance
My uncle is running windows 10 perfectly well on a core 2 duo E8400. He has a little HP sff PC which had gotten painfully slow with W7 on a dying HDD. Since he only uses it to browse the web and make Excel spreadsheets I told him not to waste money on a new computer. So he spent only 25€ on a 480GB ssd and Bob's your uncle. E8400, 4GB ddr3 and an ssd works a charm for a boomer PC. I noticed those 100% spikes when windows was installing updates but since then all is fine and dandy. Even the serial on the windows 7 sticker on the case activated windows 10 pro seamlessly. So two old cores can still be plenty for someone before becoming toxic waste in a landfill.
For stuff like this it would be cool to show a few old games that actually do run. I’m sure even with GT 710 you could run some old games like portal half life KOTOR Morrowind
You make it sound as though the GT710 was a graphics card from the dawn of PC gaming. 😉 If you combined the power of my first 5 PC graphics cards in to 1, a GT710 would still trounce it. Those games you mentioned aren't "old"... I bought my first (IBM compatible) PC mainly to play the original, just released, Doom games. They were so far beyond anything I'd played on my previous computers, but even a 486 DX2/66 struggled at times. Doom probably counts as old. 😁
Nice video! But wouldn't it be better to pair this cpu with an AMD gpu, to eliminate Nvidia's cpu driver overhead? in a such cpu limitied scenario it would be a better match
If you set the 30 fps limit in Riva Tuner, then most of the friezes will disappear. CPU will not need to prepare more frames and there will be a small margin. I used to play like this on AMD Athlon 635 in most games of 2016-2019 :D
Intel Pentiums are primarily meant for office use - MS Word or Excel are less demanding than 3D games. Celerons are intended for POS systems as well as advertising screens. So gaming is a bonus, if you can run the games you want to play!
Just recently bought a HP Laptop model 14-dk1025wm but mine has a different processor for some unknown reason. That model of laptop should come with a Ryzen 3 3250U with Vega 3 which is a 2 Core 2 Thread processor. For some reason my model 14-dk1025wm has a Ryzen 3 3300U with Vega 6 which is a 4 Core 4 Thread processor. Only thing I can come up with is there was a error at the factory when the motherboard in my laptop was created. I ended up trading a TV soundbar which I bought for $50 dollars for the laptop. Turned around upgraded the memory in the laptop to 16GB even though 32GB was the max it supported. Then turned around removed the stock 1TB HDD and installed a SSD. After the upgrades the laptop has wakened up and is a little power house that capable of doing some gaming on it if I wanted. So overall I only have $75 dollars invested in the laptop. If you figure the cost of the soundbar I traded and the cost of the memory upgrade. I all ready had the SSD laying around so I did not include that in the overall price invested in it.
I guess that, even with postage, it's still cheaper than a decent pair of pliers to pull your own teeth out (sans anæsthetic), although the pliers would have other uses, too, so... 🤷 😂
This is strange to me.. I just set up an old Core 2 Duo E8500 rig with windows 10, with the intention of running it with MAME on an arcade stand.. Even with that old thing, i'm not seeing 100% CPU usage in windows, not even when running basic tasks.. I would have thought that this Pentium would be less bottlenecked than an ancient Core 2.. god i hate that term btw.. Heck, i'm running an AMD FX8350 on another arcade rig, and the Core 2 Duo seems to be more snappy than that.. I haven't tried modern gaming on the E8500 though, the rig is just running an equally old nvidia 280 GTX, so modern titles would probably be a waste of time, assuming they would even run. It would probably have been a pretty great rig for its time though.. It's been running all the arcade games i've thrown at it just fine, even more demanding 3D titles, which i wouldn't have expected..
1:38 Oh wow, the mention of DDR3 support tells you exactly what you need to know. This would probably date from around 3rd gen - 4th gen Intel (going off a complete guess) and won't perform very well at all. At least it can be used as a general desktop use CPU, for an Office box or similar, if you manage to get cheap MB/RAM etc... Oh wait, it doesn't support Windows 11. So not a good idea. Might as well get an i3 10100 or 12100 if you can find one about at a good price.
I had to adapt a computer with a G3420 with Windows 10 to make it play games and edit media. Pretty decent tbh, the PlayStation 2 emulator can work with the integrated graphics. Impressive.
What do you think about this CPU MB combo? An intel xeon E5 2690v4 x2 with Mb x99 I found this on Aliexpress with 32 gigs ram included. I appreciate your opinion is why out of the blue I ask about this combo.
Pentiums usually are not so bad. I remember the G4560 and it was a great cpu with a great value for not much money. And the G7400 is capable of kick some asses to some i3 and i5 from past generations.
I love the second hand market tbh because of how much variety i can find. A guy selling a "gaming pc" without a gpu, and a gaming pc without a cpu too. Another guy selling a gaming pc with a glorified hdmi port (710).
A 1150 mobo is a good platform for a cheapo rig. You can get an i5 4460 for under a tenner, 8gb ddr3 for a tenner or 16gb for 20 quid. Couple that with a used rx570 for £60 and you've got something pretty useable. Though Starfield or a ue5 game will cripple it.
Trying turning off Windows Search in the services. Some super low end CPUs get slammed by it indexing and caching files in the background, and every little bit helps. It's not super necessary with an SSD in my experience.
might not be bad for a cheap emulation and classic game box. Most pre-2013 or 2014 games should run decently paired with a used 750 Ti (which still gets driver updates)
i used to own g4560.. dude made its best to do 60 (and sometimes 70 and 75 in some areas) in forza horizon, minecraft used to run pretty fine too.. if I wanted a smooth gta 5 experience, I had to lock the fps at 30 (it still can do 60, but it would be at 100% most of the times, causing drops) and it would be at 80% (almost maxed out) the G processors remind me of gt cards (gt 210, gt 710, gt610), you'd have display on the screen, till you consider a gpu upgrade lol
@@RandomGaminginHD The G4560 was pretty good value for office PCs back then (I got one for €50 in 2018). My father still uses one today and is perfectly happy with it, but he's not the most demanding user when it comes to PCs.
I used to play GTA V with the g3220 and an r7 260 back in 2014 and even though the game ran fine for a few months, somehow that processor got physical damage due to the game's 100% cpu usage all the time and the game became a slideshow after that!. Luckily, I was able to sell it for half of what I paid for ,and I got the I3 4160 that was able to run GTA V without breaking a sweat.
My company still uses alot of dell optiplexs' with Pentium G850s, 2gb ram and an ssd. It runs Windows 10 22H2 just fine but they only use Citrix workspace to access their virtual desktops
I still have an FX8320 with a Radeon HD 7950 3GB and 16GB of DDR3 RAM sitting in my garage. I just need to add a PSU and storage to get it back up and running. I may upgrade the GPU to something a little more powerful and overclock the CPU in order to improve performance. At some point I'll work on it so I can gift the PC to someone.
i would just buy one just for the giggles but sadly i would pay atleast 2-3 the price for postage to eu. i have a second pc that has a g3420. so this would be a small bump up. i don't really do much with it so no really point to spend to much on that pc. have thought to throw an i3/i5 or even a xeon in it but looking at prices im paying the same that like an older ryzen would go for. so id be better off just selling the combo and with the money get something newer. only reason i leave it as is is cuz that pc is mostly used to just afk run gmod or simple tasks id rather not hog up my main pc by doing them
@@83Bongo Minecraft can't use all of it, but it can use all of a G3258, and you can't get a 4590 to match a 5.2Ghz G3258 for Minecraft. In fact no other LGA1150 chip could ever match a golden sample G3258 for hosting Minecraft. The closest is the i7-5775C if you can find one that goes to 4.4Ghz (really hard) AND 2200Mhz L4 cache
It would be cool if you'd actually test these slower parts on the OS they had at the time. You can just use the unregistered versions, so you don't need a license.
It's a good way to make a budget system for older titles but for newer titles you want at least a 6 core cpu. Even with emulation you benefit way more with higher core count and higher clock frequency CPUs.
As some have pointed out at 2:40 the PC is indeed doing stuff in the background hence the high CPU usage. This little segment was a bit of a joke, but I should clarify that it doesn’t take much to get this thing to max out under Windows 10. (Like opening a browser) 😂
G'day Random Steve,
🤔Background Internet Usage, 🤨Looks like it was busy skimming all your data & sending it off to Microsoft...😂
I have a HTPC which was fine with W7 using a Pentium G4400 + 8GB 2400-DDR4 for many years, but when I upgraded it to W10 even just trying to play a Movie at 1080p it would get slow downs so now upgraded to an i3-6100 & it is happy again.
Unless you are deliberately building a Retro PC I definitely agree i3 is a better buy these days as the added HT is a big help for when there are Windows Background Tasks.
Each Windows is just a bigger bloatware than previous 😁Anyway, in this case if you do not want Win 7 grab some tiny Linux distro. Basic stuff like surfing, watching videos, typing ... would work just fine.
Might work fine with Puppy Linux...but to be honest a used i5 3470 m/board and ram bundle makes more sense than a new build.
You should use Process Explorer in this case, it can tell you a whole lot more than Task Manager..... There is a lot of unnecessary cr@p running in the background, some of which cannot be turned off in services.msc and you have to go into the registry.......
You truly are a ccpupu, checking cpu processing unit
This is a CBPU at this point. Central Barely Processing Unit.
Central maybe gonna get by Processing unit, might have to yield too.
Meh, it's still better than a Celeron.
Celeron CPUs have like 64kb L1 cache and no L2 or L3 cache.
This cache is crucial for storing the upcoming CPU instructions. If you had (a nonexistent) 5ghz CPU with 128kb of cache, it would perform slower than a 2.5ghz CPU with 512k cache.
Cache is *that important*
Your whole instruction set will be bogged down, and there will be mega-stuttering with every action you perform, from right-clicking to scrolling webpages.
Celeron is the bottom of the barrel, and this CPU stands above Celeron.
Never underestimate the power of the CPU cache.
Doesn't matter how many cores you have or how fast your clock speed is, if the CPU can't find its next instruction (which resides in the cache) quickly, then it's going to sit around twiddling its thumbs.
BCPU rolls off the tongue easier 😂😂😂
When this cpu came out this cpu was actually pretty capable of playing games paired with a gtx 750 ti, many games of the time run on it just fine
Yeah the g3258 certainly did a good job for me back then, and I’m sure this would have too
Yes I had it overclocked to like 4.5ghz and an r9 270x, it was a good little gaming machine back then
@@RandomGaminginHD I even had a pentium g3420 back in the days before i got an i7 and i used to play battlefield 3 and 4 on it very fine, although the i5 and i7 were clearly superior.
I live in Sweden , and here situation is just crazy with GPU majority GPU are in range of 500kr (50€) , you can buy in that range R7250x , GTX750ti , GTX760 , GTX970 , so in Sweden market is just crazy , weak GPU can cost as much decent ones ! , I dunno how are prices where you live , but in 2023 prices have droped and GPU are so cheap , 50€ GTX970 with 4gb is bare minimum in my opinion , even on lowest budget .
(BTW I have missread your comment , you are right 8 years ago 750ti ruled)
Yeah true, one of the truly budget builds back then. Pentium + GTX 750 should run many games just fine
that cooler is probably worth more than the cpu
Just thinking the same thing :)
it is worth about much or more than the cpu
Buy a cooler, get a free CPU!
Packaging is probably more than the fan and cpu combined.
@@frugalfun2.07not a bad idea… intel stock coolers for LGA 1155 era cost around $5 to $10 where I love lol😅
You know with this CPU, you can just make it run TrueNAS as a NAS Storage
Yea, I run of those old Celerons in a Linux File Server. More than enough and with very low power consumption.
I would prefer a higher core count though since I run virtualization from my TrueNAS Scale machine. For a simple file server using TrueNAS Core it might be ok as long as you don't overload it with apps and services.
I guess you could call this an industry baby
It's quite a bit better than the stock celeron CPU in the Gen8 Microserver from HP and even that was largely fine for the likes of TrueNAS and Unraid.
But then again an i3 or even i5 of the generation is not much more expensive and has a lot more headroom whilst it'll idle at similar power consumption as a Core i CPU
This needs an equivalent AMD CPU comparison test like maybe an old A4 APU.
the first build i ever did was a a4 lol, ran gmod and thats all i cared about
Athlon 3000g would crush any pentium
@@Player_g1maybe thanks to the way better iGPU but in single core a G7400 would annihilate the 3000G
@@helenHTID Dude, I have here Phenom 2 X2, HD 4550 and 2.5 gb ram and 80gb hdd.
@@helenHTID It actually runs well, not on 100% for no apparent reason. But, here's the catch: Arch Linux with a very light xfce4. Dual boot with Windows XP. They share the 80 gb HDD, half each. In Win XP I can play some old games maxed out.
I just liking his videos as they are so calming ❤
Thanks :)
I think the random bouts of 100% usage at “idle”/sitting on the desktop may be from Windows antivirus processes or something similar. I’ve seen it happen often on my laptop with a 7300HQ; I’d notice CPU utilization at 30-45% or more and when I’d go to check task manager it was always the Windows defender/anti-malware process(es) running in the background (especially from a first boot after a long time of being completely off or when connecting to an internet connection). So it may very well be the same for the Pentium you tested, as I’m sure booting up a “new” or different hardware combo (even if it’s the same boot drive you use with everything else) could’ve triggered Windows into running a scan or something like that
Even with a 5900X, with a good nvme drive and gigabit internet I'll see usage spikes around that level
Windows checking for updates is also capable of 100% CPU usage on like a8 laptops. I know the CPUs aren't great, but Windows Update shouldn't be *that* heavy.
@@pyro226Lots of decompression and file moving/checking, that'll eat through any CPU if the power is available. They should add a resource limit on the process though, maybe pin it to half the cores or something
not the most relevant situation but i nuked windows defender and my nvme pc boots up in 3x less time its crazy
@@resneptacle I'm guessing it's an 8 thread limit, ex 30-35% usage with the decompression and defender checking the files on a Ryzen 9
Nice to see old Haswell CPUs still reviewed on from you.
I recently saved an old i5-4690 PC from the trash. I'm going to build a low cost, low end gaming PC for older games out of it.
Considering that the cooler is compatible up until LGA1200, £5 is a good deal for a spare, emergency cooler that’s easy to install and take off. It even comes with a free paperweight that doubles as a CPU 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
or put it in a 10400F as that chip is the maximum that can operate with ass-tier coolers without massive throttling
I'd still get a better cooler. Tower cooler with more thermal headroom for a 10400f. @@baoquoc3710
Any PC can runs games, all you need is some RTX 4060 card, use the old Pentium is enough for games !
@@baoquoc3710 Games only need 2 Cores, on 5 Ghz
any 6800k and up will do that !
I use that CPU in my home server running a reverse proxy, valtwarden, SMB server and Plex on a Linux OS. It has HW transcoding, it's very power efficient and fine for the job.
I'm doing the same (SMB, Plex) on a i5-4570T. About twice as fast as the Pentium but you don't need much for SMB or Plex as long as you keep the transcoding to a minimum. Running Kubuntu 22.04.
One thing to remember is that Pentiums of that era lacked even the first iteration of AVX. If a shortage of cores/threading doesn't get to them first, then the lack of any modern instruction sets will.
Steve Pentium was 1994,
this is just a Core Design, too cheap !
i hope Intel keeps the Pentium and Celeron lineups alive but turns them into more mobile-like, high-efficiency, "gets the job done" everyday CPUs. Pentiums could get 1 or 2 P-cores and 4 E-cores and Celerons E-cores only
I been saying the exact thing for a while pentium should be 2 p cores 4 e cores. Celerons should be 4 e core with hyper threading
@@nooneinpart there’s actually no physical limitation for hyperthreading on E cores more of a limitation intel sets because only higher end P cores get hyperthreading making it more enticing to step up to the a higher p core count model
celerons should die they only make sense in laptops/mini pcs
@@josephdias3968hyper threading does come at a space cost.
Which is why ecores don't have it since e cores aren't really about energy efficiency and more about space efficiency.
If you live in the UK, at CEX you can get an i5-4440 (or 4460 but they're almost the same minus a small base clock difference) for £5 with a 2 year warranty and that will do SO much better than this.
Thats what I did, I bought an office PC with an i3-4160 on ebay for £30 and then put the i5-4440 into it with an RX 570 (also from CEX with 2 year warranty) in and I was gaming in new titles (except for unoptimised trash) at over 30fps and well over 60fps in competitive titles (100's in some like CS-Go and Rocket League). The RX 570 has 8Gb of Vram which is nice, and was only £90, which along with a new 500w PSU from amazon brought the total cost to just over £180 all in.
I upgraded it to an i7-4790k recently for about £40 from CEX and the 8 threads and much higher base clock really do make a difference (especially in newer titles that want at least 8 threads). It has the same 4 cores but with the higher base clock and hyperthreading in some games I've seen upwards of 50-60% better performance and much higher 1% lows.
The total cost after the i7-4790k was about £220, which considering I am playing Baldurs Gate 3 and other newer titles with around 60fps on low settings at 1080p or 30fps at 1440p with medium settings, I'm very happy with! Some titles that are well optimised like Forza Horizon 5 I have running at medium/high settings at close to 4k (I don't know the exact resolution but it has one that is about 80% of the way to 4k) at 30fps locked, which is awesome considering the price.
Decent build I've got an i7 3770, paired with an RX 560. It works wonders in all of the games I play at 1080p. I may upgrade my GPU to an RX 6600 to maximize the platform
rx 570 is solid, only game it doesn't seem to work well with is starfield, but I suspect that's a bug.
you know, if you have kids or young adults in your family, or folks with physical limitations and they have the desire to learn about building a computer, this type of hardware would be a great place for them to start out and build their skill and confidence.
Yeah great point
I agree. It wouldn't cost much to put one of these systems together.
Yes learn kids how to build PC , they will save loot of cash , prices at service can be ridiculus sometimes .
Totally! When I started, a computer store had an old computer with a Cyrix cpu, 166mhz if I recall correctly. It was almost the era of the gigahertz, so it was quite cheap. And that’s what I used to get some practice with assembling a pc! And I’ve also ran the Oni demo, couple of frames per second. Amused me enough that I remember it over 20 years later lol
Many years ago, one of my then girlfriend's kids was getting interested in how computers were put together. At the time they all shared one 'family PC'. So I bought an older, but still usable PC, took it to pieces, boxed it up and gave it to him for his birthday. Back then motherboards still had jumpers for CPU and bus speeds etc, and autoconfig wasn't very advanced. I guided him as he rebuilt it and eventually got it working. He liked that PC a lot, and it cost very little, so no worries about damaging it.
Love the gpu in the background had to go watch your video on it, that's a really cool lil story about it
So you get an Intel stock cooler for a tenner and processor you can use for testing motherboards. Not bad.
I bought the g3258 pentium anniversary when it launched, and it was a huge mistake. Gaming had already moved away from dual core, requiring at least 4 threads, and soon after even an i3 2c/4t was outdated. Paired with a gt710 its probably the highest power-to-performance windows xp machine you can make
It's a budget CPU, never designed to run the latest and greatest games. But gaming is only one of many tasks computers can do, and a lot of them don't need lots of cores and threads, nor a ridiculous clock speed. That's why Intel and AMD produce and sell older tech. Unfortunately, they can't stop people buying the WRONG tool for the job they want doing.
Same here, bought it to play games thinking that overclocking it would be enough to play modern titles. But at that point a dual core was simply not enough for many of the latest games. Still, it was fun messing around with an unlocked processor, my first experience with overclocking.
@@borgestheborg Yeah. We were duped by intel and tech-youtube. I remember lots of people recommending it at a last hurrah for pentium and overclocking monster for the budget oriented gaming build. It turned out to be tech-youtube intel marketing nonsense in disguise to move some slightly borked i3 silicon
It would run many games of previous generations, tho
@@lopwidth7343 It was launched at an unfortunate time. The 7th gen consoles effectively had 2-3 cpu cores, so most games from that era were optimised for 2 cores and heavily offloaded to the GPU where they could. 8th gen consoles featured 8 cores that were individually even weaker than the previous gen(relative to the state of the art), so games pivoted to heavily multithreaded architectures that the g3258 couldn't handle.
The result was a CPU that got headline grabbing price to performance on slightly older AAA's but had no futureproofing at all. Not sure it was overhyped though, I remember a lot of discussion about it's futureproofing at the time and benchmarks from big reviewers made it obvious that it was already struggling to run highly multithreaded games.
Loving the new renovation btw!
The hilarious thing to me is the cost of shipping that CPU would probably be about as much if not more than the CPU itself 🤣
Haha yeah that did make me laugh
Yeah, the shipping on it cost me £4.79, so that was funny
Actually quite surprising in terms of how cheap it could be built despite the low tier components ! And quite a nicely mannered review ! 👍
Looks like it'd make an excellent £5 paperweight.
been watching you for years and damn i must say, you look like an absolute chad nowadays
As someone who suffered through a Pentium G2030, this is nostalgic.
When testing so old CPUs it would be nice if you can do OpenSSH & Wireguard as well as a Docker build benchmark - such CPUs can be the perfect low cost homeserver.
Funny but I just replaced a bunch of these at my work. We run our sales support with on a bunch of old HPs ProDesks with 2019 LTSC. They basically answer phones and do email so nothing more was needed until recently when a combo of Outlook, the Indexer, and our anti-malware started causing issues. Ended up replacing them with a stack of 4570s that I had kicking around.
Try pairing it with a AMD Radeon. There is a known driver overhead issue with Nvidia vs AMD, quite noticeable with weak CPUs. Something to do with AMD using GPU hardware scheduling vs Nvidia doing it in CPU.
You know, in videos like that I would be super curious how these sorts of chips would do on emulations, playing like gameboy, n64, sega, stuff like that. I get if thats to dodgy for your tastes though, but it would be fun content.
I had a Core2Duo that couldn't handle 1080p video, worked when I upgraed to quad core though, you should see if this CPU can handle 4K.
Core 2 duo should be able to handle 1080p if you have GPU acceleration.
my workplace still use C2D e7500. It can stream 1080p youtube, but will start to stutter if i switch to fullscreen mode.
It is because of the windows telemetry. I have a running currently C2Duo which runs as well as one of my i5s and guess what? No internet. Food for thought
P.S. On Linux it would fly 😅
Be interesting to see how it does with Holo or another gaming type Linux distro.
I think that might even be a bit low power for my next build, which is a "Football Manager machine"(as he put it) for a mate.
Thank you for doing proper reviews of this stuff, though. It's ridiculous hard to find a video of lower cost CPUs without the entire thing being a massive pisstake.
Thanks for watching :)
Thanks showing how to build cheap pcs that can still play games .thanks for that.when im financially stable enough to get or build a pc ill always take ur advice. Thanks for ur time and effort. Cheers
If you have an LGA1150 platform it would be a good idea to just buy something like a used Xeon E3 1270 v3, can get some pretty cheap.
Oh, cool. I have a G3258 and G3450 that I use for a everyday use PC and a NAS/Plex. Built both in 2015. Ubuntu and BSD
SOOO many processes when it's just sitting there! You gotta put on a copy of Tiny10 or Tiny11 to get those processes down.
Up to the end of 2021 I was using a G3420 based PC. It is slightly slower version of the G3440 used in the video. I used it with a HDD which was the main throttler of the system, but still it could run some games - no problem running Skyrim, World of Tanks or World of Warcraft classic. These aren't very demanding titles by today standards, but still they were perfectly playable. Unfortunately Witcher 3 was not.
*Nice, a free CPU with your cooler!*
😂
That makes a decent HTPC CPU. Remembers me of buying a board, 2 GB DDR3 and some Pentium Ivy Bridge for 20 €. The Pentium was weak, but turned out to be better than my old Phenom X4 rig at a fraction of its power draw. The times were poverty, so I was still using the Phenom 9600 system as a HTPC to watch movies in bed. The machine was also terribly loud. These CPUs still run many lighter games.
Interesting results to be sure. Might be a good choice for an ultra low budget general computing system for a student running a Linux distro. I suggest Linux because you can still get some full featured distros that will run on a dual core with 2 GBs of RAM without issue.
Dual core cpus just don't cut it nowadays. Even if you are still running windows 7 like me. My secondary system is a Phenom II dual core and my mobo allows unlocking of up to 2 more cores. I got lucky and got what was actually a 3.3GHz Phenom II quad core being sold as a dual core at a dual core price. The difference in performance is palpable w/o doing any benchmarking between running it as a dual core as opposed to a quad core. As a quad core it's still usable for basic tasks(it is paired with 8GB of DDR3-1600 dual channel), but virtually the only task I use it for now is running Turbotax because it requires win10 to run and I despise any win version above 7. I still run win7 on my main system which is only slightly less ancient(FX-8350,32GB DDR3-1866). The difference between the Phenom and FX is night and day. My FX system is actually perfectly usable still for me and runs 24/7. Of course that is because it has 8 cores and 32GB of ram. I hope to be able to score some good deals on hardware this coming holiday season to build a new Ryzen system but am happy that my 10yr old system still gets the job done...
Ah yes the 3440, good memories of this and the 4560. Keep up the good work!
G4560 was a great budget CPU, practically an i3 with just lower price.
I bought an old celeron(G1840) from China for 3 euros, with postage included lol. Just to test a dumpster found 1150 mobo (9020sff). I was surpised that it could handle 1080p youtube, twitch etc. It was very responsive for office tasks, didnt try gaming ofc lol. With a crap psu the whole system(ssd+1stick of 8gb ram) was idling at 26 w. Might keep it as a server with a xeon upgrade in the future.
Lucked out finding a 1150 MSI B85M-E45 matx board earlier this Monday myself at the junkyard electronics container, thought eh I'll try the 4670k i got for free with a dead motherboard like 1.5 years ago expecting it too simply be a dead motherboard like the next one i found.
it works fine outside of dual channel not working at all so single channel ram & 0 fan control together with missing the pci-e lock.
Thought it was the motherboard not working as it should & was like eh whatever I'll build a test rig out of it for now.
Got a Noctua nh-u12 of some variety mounted on that board, i found that also in the scrapyard on a socket 775 pc like 2 - 3 weeks before that.
Below the heatsink there was no cpu which got a laugh out of me, like it was mounted down properly hooked up & everything in all 4 corners.
Then yesterday i found another board A gigabyte Z87-DS3H that had a cpu in it & saw that it was a 4770k, which is a pretty nice cpu still & one of the best for socket 1150.
(Though unfortunately the motherboard has a common fault causing these boards too " appear broken ".)
It does actually still start shorting the 24 pin green power on pin & a ground next to it too force the powersupply on regardless which eventually will send some voltage too chipset & wake it up as it should.
(It's a chip that's supposed too communicate with chipset & respond too the power on front panel header that's broken or shorted out & also send power to usb, ps2 ports, network port etc...)
It's fixable but i don't have a hot air station & the Chip is gonna be like 35 - 60$ with shipping to Sweden so I'll bide my time with the matx B85 board instead as i already got an AM4 build with a Ryzen 5600.
My First CPU was G3240. Paired with a 1050ti was bottlenecking a lot. But will remain as my best OG memory
I have one of these sitting in a bin of misc. It's literally not worth the hassle of shipping to sell it, haha. If I happen upon a cheap/free mobo for it maybe I'll see if it's enough for a basic NAS or DNS-blackhole. With something hardly more powerful than a SBC (and weaker than some) those type of projects are likely the only things that make sense. Lots of cheap or free bare-bones optiplex systems which are compatible though thankfully.
I wonder how this CPU would do under Linux, as opposed to Windows 10? I’m not talking about gaming, but maybe things like TH-cam video playback would work better?
You should try using Atlas OS mod on windows 10 for these parts. Even my core 2 duo build is managing to be impressively snappy with it
2:40 windows update does this. i have no idea what requires so much processing power and memory but windows update has always been like this so don't be surprised. actually its not as bad on windows 10 as it was on windows 7 believe it or not, it just requires more hard drive clicking nowadays.
edit: pro tip: go to windows update -> advanced options -> delivery optimization -> advance options -> select absolute bandwidth -> check both boxes and type 999 on both text boxes as well. this will make windows update use up to 999Mb of internet transfer to download updates and will get them done way faster since it only uses 20Mb by default.
@@nooneinpart i believe some features were turned on by default but i can't remember anymore. the defender on windows 10 automatically runs virus scans when user is inactive or uppon new install, which is dumb, honestly, considering it only scans the os's files and folders.
Don't worry about the CPU usage, it's just Windows sending you telemetry to 3rd parties for "usage anylsis".
Scary, but true...😮
O&O Shutup helps with this b.s. ...
3:00 looking at the graphs you can see the SSD useage spiked with the cpu usage so windows was probably installing some updates in the background, which usually does not take a lot of cpu power on a normal cpu
Yes, its also downloading stuff (looking at the ethernet receive rate)
Its a windows 10+ thing. Its either updating or windows defender scanning
@@lopwidth7343exactly, thats what I thought
I have an even older Pentium e5300(2-core in an hp s5220y, 4gig ram) from 2008. I use it as a local Linux server that runs Apache, php, mysql, docker etc. It's perfect as a simple home/test server.
Don't discount these old systems... you can still find a use for them... just not gaming.
Hey man, Would love to see a 1060 6gb graphics card in 2023. I'm still running one and I'm so tempted to upgrade to 6700xt or 7700xt, but it still plays all my games at 1080p easily. would love to get your thoughts.
I think you mentioned great point how much more multiheaded games have become, i remember when oc'd Pentium g3258 (lga1150) could compete against 4670k and 4790k in quite few games, but that chip aged like milk only couple years later it got demolished by higher core count chips and in some cases it either couldnt boot and just had unplayable performance
My uncle is running windows 10 perfectly well on a core 2 duo E8400. He has a little HP sff PC which had gotten painfully slow with W7 on a dying HDD. Since he only uses it to browse the web and make Excel spreadsheets I told him not to waste money on a new computer. So he spent only 25€ on a 480GB ssd and Bob's your uncle. E8400, 4GB ddr3 and an ssd works a charm for a boomer PC. I noticed those 100% spikes when windows was installing updates but since then all is fine and dandy. Even the serial on the windows 7 sticker on the case activated windows 10 pro seamlessly. So two old cores can still be plenty for someone before becoming toxic waste in a landfill.
For stuff like this it would be cool to show a few old games that actually do run. I’m sure even with GT 710 you could run some old games like portal half life KOTOR Morrowind
You make it sound as though the GT710 was a graphics card from the dawn of PC gaming. 😉 If you combined the power of my first 5 PC graphics cards in to 1, a GT710 would still trounce it. Those games you mentioned aren't "old"... I bought my first (IBM compatible) PC mainly to play the original, just released, Doom games. They were so far beyond anything I'd played on my previous computers, but even a 486 DX2/66 struggled at times. Doom probably counts as old. 😁
Nice video! But wouldn't it be better to pair this cpu with an AMD gpu, to eliminate Nvidia's cpu driver overhead?
in a such cpu limitied scenario it would be a better match
A £5 Intel stock cooler. Free CPU included.
Pretty much lol
If you set the 30 fps limit in Riva Tuner, then most of the friezes will disappear. CPU will not need to prepare more frames and there will be a small margin. I used to play like this on AMD Athlon 635 in most games of 2016-2019 :D
I always wanted one of these, to relive the pentium 4 days
you masochist.
Dude i am using the same processor in win 10. I am happy
Intel Pentiums are primarily meant for office use - MS Word or Excel are less demanding than 3D games. Celerons are intended for POS systems as well as advertising screens. So gaming is a bonus, if you can run the games you want to play!
Just recently bought a HP Laptop model 14-dk1025wm but mine has a different processor for some unknown reason.
That model of laptop should come with a Ryzen 3 3250U with Vega 3 which is a 2 Core 2 Thread processor. For some reason my model 14-dk1025wm has a Ryzen 3 3300U with Vega 6 which is a 4 Core 4 Thread processor. Only thing I can come up with is there was a error at the factory when the motherboard in my laptop was created.
I ended up trading a TV soundbar which I bought for $50 dollars for the laptop. Turned around upgraded the memory in the laptop to 16GB even though 32GB was the max it supported. Then turned around removed the stock 1TB HDD and installed a SSD. After the upgrades the laptop has wakened up and is a little power house that capable of doing some gaming on it if I wanted.
So overall I only have $75 dollars invested in the laptop. If you figure the cost of the soundbar I traded and the cost of the memory upgrade. I all ready had the SSD laying around so I did not include that in the overall price invested in it.
I hope you test TINY11 on these budget hardware.
I guess that, even with postage, it's still cheaper than a decent pair of pliers to pull your own teeth out (sans anæsthetic), although the pliers would have other uses, too, so... 🤷 😂
This is strange to me.. I just set up an old Core 2 Duo E8500 rig with windows 10, with the intention of running it with MAME on an arcade stand.. Even with that old thing, i'm not seeing 100% CPU usage in windows, not even when running basic tasks.. I would have thought that this Pentium would be less bottlenecked than an ancient Core 2.. god i hate that term btw.. Heck, i'm running an AMD FX8350 on another arcade rig, and the Core 2 Duo seems to be more snappy than that..
I haven't tried modern gaming on the E8500 though, the rig is just running an equally old nvidia 280 GTX, so modern titles would probably be a waste of time, assuming they would even run. It would probably have been a pretty great rig for its time though..
It's been running all the arcade games i've thrown at it just fine, even more demanding 3D titles, which i wouldn't have expected..
first super quick love the videos keep up the good work
1:38 Oh wow, the mention of DDR3 support tells you exactly what you need to know. This would probably date from around 3rd gen - 4th gen Intel (going off a complete guess) and won't perform very well at all. At least it can be used as a general desktop use CPU, for an Office box or similar, if you manage to get cheap MB/RAM etc...
Oh wait, it doesn't support Windows 11. So not a good idea. Might as well get an i3 10100 or 12100 if you can find one about at a good price.
I had to adapt a computer with a G3420 with Windows 10 to make it play games and edit media.
Pretty decent tbh, the PlayStation 2 emulator can work with the integrated graphics. Impressive.
What do you think about this CPU MB combo? An intel xeon E5 2690v4 x2 with Mb x99 I found this on Aliexpress with 32 gigs ram included. I appreciate your opinion is why out of the blue I ask about this combo.
Pentiums usually are not so bad. I remember the G4560 and it was a great cpu with a great value for not much money. And the G7400 is capable of kick some asses to some i3 and i5 from past generations.
Nice man, is use these coolers a lot, to cool ssr relais, and scr. For a beer brewing installation. I just toss the cpu away.
Hey do you think it would make good XP gaming cpu?
I love the second hand market tbh because of how much variety i can find. A guy selling a "gaming pc" without a gpu, and a gaming pc without a cpu too. Another guy selling a gaming pc with a glorified hdmi port (710).
A 1150 mobo is a good platform for a cheapo rig. You can get an i5 4460 for under a tenner, 8gb ddr3 for a tenner or 16gb for 20 quid. Couple that with a used rx570 for £60 and you've got something pretty useable. Though Starfield or a ue5 game will cripple it.
Even better save 30$ more and get 1070
when gaming have you tried capping the FPS using Rivatuner Statistics?
Trying turning off Windows Search in the services. Some super low end CPUs get slammed by it indexing and caching files in the background, and every little bit helps. It's not super necessary with an SSD in my experience.
Free cooler with a diy key ring
might not be bad for a cheap emulation and classic game box. Most pre-2013 or 2014 games should run decently paired with a used 750 Ti (which still gets driver updates)
i used to own g4560.. dude made its best to do 60 (and sometimes 70 and 75 in some areas) in forza horizon, minecraft used to run pretty fine too.. if I wanted a smooth gta 5 experience, I had to lock the fps at 30 (it still can do 60, but it would be at 100% most of the times, causing drops) and it would be at 80% (almost maxed out)
the G processors remind me of gt cards (gt 210, gt 710, gt610), you'd have display on the screen, till you consider a gpu upgrade lol
Yeah, I really liked the g4560 too 😁
@@RandomGaminginHD The G4560 was pretty good value for office PCs back then (I got one for €50 in 2018). My father still uses one today and is perfectly happy with it, but he's not the most demanding user when it comes to PCs.
If you have the LGA1150 board, CEX will sell you an i3-4130 for 25p (the postage is more than 10 times that)
An i5 for £3
Or an i7 for £28-30
I used to play GTA V with the g3220 and an r7 260 back in 2014 and even though the game ran fine for a few months, somehow that processor got physical damage due to the game's 100% cpu usage all the time and the game became a slideshow after that!. Luckily, I was able to sell it for half of what I paid for ,and I got the I3 4160 that was able to run GTA V without breaking a sweat.
You could try it with that Tiny 11 OS that people are talking about. It might appreciate the stripped down OS.
My company still uses alot of dell optiplexs' with Pentium G850s, 2gb ram and an ssd. It runs Windows 10 22H2 just fine but they only use Citrix workspace to access their virtual desktops
I still have an FX8320 with a Radeon HD 7950 3GB and 16GB of DDR3 RAM sitting in my garage. I just need to add a PSU and storage to get it back up and running. I may upgrade the GPU to something a little more powerful and overclock the CPU in order to improve performance. At some point I'll work on it so I can gift the PC to someone.
Nice :)
Make another Review of cheap brand "new" motherboard for Intel Haswell CPU that has M.2 NVMe SSD slot on it
i would just buy one just for the giggles but sadly i would pay atleast 2-3 the price for postage to eu. i have a second pc that has a g3420. so this would be a small bump up. i don't really do much with it so no really point to spend to much on that pc. have thought to throw an i3/i5 or even a xeon in it but looking at prices im paying the same that like an older ryzen would go for. so id be better off just selling the combo and with the money get something newer. only reason i leave it as is is cuz that pc is mostly used to just afk run gmod or simple tasks id rather not hog up my main pc by doing them
I remember one of my first cpu was a pentium g3258 on the same socket and was capable to achieve 4,5GHZ
Wow, I remember paying about £35 for one of those about a decade ago just to diagnose Socket 1150 motherboards.
RDR2 is so detailed and runs so well it’s like a once in a lifetime deal some exec made with Mephisto it’s more detailed than Starfield
This CPU could do fine with some Windows tweaks that disables all the spyware
Might as well get a G3258 for €5, mine overclocked to 5.2Ghz and is spun up as a Minecraft server if I need one. Probably the ideal CPU for that.
You can get an i5 4590 for about £5 used. No point going any lower.
@@83Bongo Minecraft can't use all of it, but it can use all of a G3258, and you can't get a 4590 to match a 5.2Ghz G3258 for Minecraft. In fact no other LGA1150 chip could ever match a golden sample G3258 for hosting Minecraft. The closest is the i7-5775C if you can find one that goes to 4.4Ghz (really hard) AND 2200Mhz L4 cache
On a different note, when you actually gonna paint your walls - the've been patchy brown for as long as i can remember 😱
I had g620 for 10 years
And it ran fine with windows 7 and linux
Should run fine for games like Diablo II and Starcraft: Broodwar. :D On iGPU as well! :D
It would be cool if you'd actually test these slower parts on the OS they had at the time. You can just use the unregistered versions, so you don't need a license.
Or just run the Windows 10 debloat script. That will dumb down the OS to close to Windows 7 overhead.
have you tried the g3258 anniversary edition i heard they are unlocked pentium processor
2013-2014 was peak intel. Devil's Canyon has insane longevity.
Your ethernet was around 25mbps. Network takes a toll on the cpu. Given the age of the cpu that is what was causing it to peak at 100%?
Yeah :)
It's a good way to make a budget system for older titles but for newer titles you want at least a 6 core cpu. Even with emulation you benefit way more with higher core count and higher clock frequency CPUs.
i3 13100f is good quad core enough for new titles
You could try with tiny 11 (OS) and see the performance