Say what you want, this man loved his son, but the "generational gap" was simply too big for these two. Brings me to tears that the father had "True to his Own Nature" inscribed on Jim's headstone. That's a Dad my friends. That's a true Dad.
well said. it is sad, but there is also a bonding deeper chord of unity & strength between them via his choice of inscription... jim & his father seemed very displaced from each other as jim reached manhood. yet, it actually wasnt that uncommon for proud spirits like both of them in that era to be distanced. the admiral knew of such displacement on a deeper level perhaps then his son. he came of age in the tough & lean '30's & fought w/ & saw many good men die in combat in ww2. some of them also free spirits like his son. In that era it was expected for a strong willed male to find his way thru his own wits & courage.... Thus, thats the unifying chord imo w/ his inscription. earned respect. the silent, but powerful currency thru wh/ males many times interchanged. action & willingness to stick to ones guns. the verbal bridge would have to come later. sadness obviously in him that it didnt. yet, there is also great understanding for his son's warrior spirit. unspoken pride in his son's willingness to commit w/ such passion & mark to what he felt so deep in his heart. the inner core of freedom. the balls it takes to really grasp it. his dad came to know his son had such legion in his blood as did he for his own station in life. earned respect runs very deep between father & son.
Children were not coddled, like they are, today. There was a lot of discipline and tough love. Parents were there for guidance and love, not to be their child’s best friend. Jim’s father obviously, wanted the best, for his son.
It is worth noting that Admiral Morrison, later in his life, participated with John Densmore to block Ray Manzarek and Robbie Krieger from cashing in on the Door's music by selling it for a commercial. Back in the late 60's Jim was adamant that their songs NOT be sold for commercials. In the early 2000's, both Manzarek and Krieger tried to sell the Door's catalogue for $15 million. John Densmore wrote a letter to Jim's aging father who agreed to join forces with Densmore to NOT sell the soul of the Door's to General Motors. Thank you John Densmore and Admiral Morrison!!
It was finally agreed to use"Break On Through" in only limited commercials (Cadillac) and limited number. I only saw and heard commercial once. Shocked, later read for that use 10 million dollars. That should show you what the SCUM are about. Cadillac sales are in the tank HA HA GM.
bulls-eye. the scot blood runs very deep when it comes to drawing the line in the sand for ones deeply held convictions. it takes a warriors spirit to understand that. jim's dad though miles away from understanding the music scene jim was in, nevertheless was at the center of understanding the balls it took to make the stand his son did. the old man stood up for his son's conviction. as jim himself said, when push comes to shove, soul beats money.
Breaks my heart to see. Even 40 years later, Admiral Morrison misses his boy as would any parent. Yes, his Dad was probably a hard-ass and most likely "didn't get" his son. I'm sure if they'd had more time, they could have come together once again. If there's an afterlife then I hope they're together again.
There's a hell of a lot more love for Jim evident from Admiral Morrison here then Oliver Stone would ever have people believe. Jim's Dad STILL doesn't fully realize what the eventual place in history will be for his son and The Doors. That era in music came about on the crest of a cultural wave. It was the spiritual result of a time and a place that was as unique and unrepeatable as a DNA sequence. It's for this reason that, eventually, The Doors will be spoken of in the same breath as Mozart, Beethoven. It'll take time, but it will happen.
Hard to watch this even after all that time you can see how much he hurts and still has trouble grasping the fact the his son became a true artistic legend
@@flipflop6525 Very few parents in the 60s would be happy to hear their college-educated child was going to wander around and then try singing rock, especially when they had no background in music of any kind. Rock was a new thing, and the hippie lifestyle wasnt exactly impressive to most parents, who had scraped a living through the Depression and WW2. 99% of such rock wanabees ended up unemployed.
l can tell that his Father loved him and that any parent who has to bury his son would be heartbroken. l think Jim was a gentle spirit even though he had drinking issues. The generation gap was a bit wide. However if Jim had made it he most likely would have mended his relationship with Pops. Twenty seven is just too darn young to die. Sad.
strange that the understanding in the dialogue has changed so much in the comments. even over 10 years ago when his father finally addressed the issue. My understanding was always that his father hated his choices, and was extremely hard on him. Coming from that generation, wanting his son to join the navy and follow in his footsteps. He wanted his son to be respectable, and saw this as going down the wrong path. Fearing his son like MOST of those hippies; would end up dead, homeless, or destroyed from the drugs and culture. That it took decades for his father to finally come to terms with just how many people were positively effected by his music. And that was essentially the difference in his coming to terms. I don't think he was a bad dad in any sense. But in those days if you acted out, especially with drugs, you got straightened out. And i dont think that kind of family cohesion is really very common place these days. Leaving so many to completely miss the dynamic. He loved his son sure, but An admiral of his time. dealing with the politics and hatred from the public towards vets; having his own son arrested; brings a lot of shame to the family. To everyone in washington and the blue collar hard workers.. the entire movement was a disgrace to the country. Understanding that i think really lets you understand the relationship. Honor, respect, family name and so forth.
The burial in Pere Lachaise in Paris has burnished Jim's myth, and it is touching to see his father take this as if it was a decision by the French govt to honor him. But nothing could be farther from the truth. Jim died of a drug overdose in a bar with drugs supplied to him by his girlfriend's dealer. He was then secretly carried back to the apartment by one or two friends. Then they called the police and the friends told them it was a heart attack. An autopsy would have been normal, but his friends were desperate to avoid this because it would prove drugs. They somehow convinced the police to skip the autopsy, and described him not as a rock musician (the police had never heard of him) but as a poet. Otherwise, the authorities would never agree to Pere Lachaise for a rock musician in those years, especially one barely known in France. So through clever manipulation they got him accepted for Pere Lachaise as a "poet" and buried him very quickly with virtually no one there but 3 or 4 people. You'll note this interview mentions he was already buried before they even heard he was dead.
@@nillehessy I've done quite a bit of reading on the topic and seen essentially all the interviews with people who were there. This is an accurate statement.
Mike Boguski Music Sorry if YOU had a bad experience. I’ve played for a living my whole life. I’m 66 and still doing it. I have a great life I wouldn’t trade for anything. Artists do what they do because they’re driven to. If a parent doesn’t support that then they’re full of shit. Period.
One of the saddest videos I've ever watched. I believe father and son would have been as one eventually. To see the pain in his dad's eyes that always gets right to my heart. Rog. Pacific sunset records.
The Byrds' Roger McGuinn: “David Crosby didn’t like him, but I always had a lot of respect for Jim Morrison. We played together at the Whisky but didn’t really get to know each other well then. He was very clever and artistic, into things like Kurt Weill. He was a really sharp guy, and knew a lot about how to project an image. When you talked to him he was just a regular guy, but he really played that image of his well. He was an actor.”
A Rock Star and a Navy Admiral don't occupy the same reality, so his father could not get his head around it. I don't think Jim's choice was necessarily a sane one for that matter. He did something remarkable and it destroyed him, or something about himself lead to self destruction.
In the end, as his sister illustrates, fame killed him - just as it did many others. It seems like a good choice at first for any ambitious young man or woman with talent, but in the end they would rather be rid of it the majority of the time - especially if they have deeply rooted integrity. You can see his father loved him - all fathers love their sons (mostly - ) but they didn't speak for many years and Jim died very young, so in my perception it makes it all the more sad. Both great men - I hope they are reunited somehow, now...
They werent alienated. Jim had just chosen to go off and drift around after college in a way he knew his parents wouldnt understand, so he chose not to keep in touch very much.
The movie "The Doors" happened with the best agreement Oliver Stone could get with everyone. Pam's family's were very difficult. Didn't want Pam protrayed as the one who got Jim interested/hooked on heroin.
But of course Pam was the enabler. It was she who lined up a French drug dealer in Paris and gave Jim drugs. He would have just stayed with alcohol. Both she and her dealer OD'd within a couple of years.
I wonder what jims father thought of pam just as soon as jim was put in the ground she was flying home telling everyone to say they had been together for 7 years so she could get everything.
Total lie. "Morrison's command of the Fifth Carrier Division did not, as has sometimes been supposed, give him a significant role in the controversial Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August 1964, which increased the level of US involvement in the Vietnam War. The Bon Homme Richard was cruising along the coast of Japan, from Sasebo to Yokosuka, while the incidents were occurring off the coast of North Vietnam." ---Wikipedia
@@afritimm you’re wrong Ted and Wikipedia is garbage. In 1963, George Stephen Morrison took command of the Essex-class aircraft carrier, USS Bon Homme Richard (CV-31). In August 1964, he was aboard the vessel and tasked with commanding the US Naval forces in the Gulf of Tonkin.
@@darrenturcotte7799 There's no proof that the initial strike on the Maddox was deliberately mischaracterized. But even if so, it didnt matter to the ultimate decision to bomb NVietnam: 1) Following the second engagement, Morrison and his staff told the US Navy headquarters in Hawaii that the radar returns the destroyers had targeted were probably false ones generated by bad weather. This message was subsequently relayed to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, who failed to give those details to Johnson. 2) We know from taped conversations between LBJ and McNamara that LBJ suspected the initial reports were wrong. But it was well AFTER this that LBJ made the decision to bomb N. Vietnam anyway. 3) Sorry to blow your conspiracy theory.
yeh well morrison also carried that huge secret with him of his pappa pappa morrison the u.s navy youngest admiral & commander in chief of the u.s fleet that was in south east asia and even false flagged re-started the vietnam war all while jim was being at same time was propelled in rock stratospheres + that brought that layed on unofficial title of the most loved anti-anti war-movement´s figurehead / posterboy .... yeh i bet he wanted to get rid of certain people certain controlling people (handlers actually) and all the yes nodders .. yeh that can be quite ehh ... yeh and i´m not judging nobody here alright is not what i´m about and idk all the details and even then..
Total lie. "Morrison's command of the Fifth Carrier Division did not, as has sometimes been supposed, give him a significant role in the controversial Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August 1964, which increased the level of US involvement in the Vietnam War. The Bon Homme Richard was cruising along the coast of Japan, from Sasebo to Yokosuka, while the incidents were occurring off the coast of North Vietnam." --Wikipedia
He never even listened to his own sons albums and lyrics? He disowned Jim when he went to film school and never took an interest afterwards. He never even knew his son, that is not a father.
You idiot smoking heroin a few times over a couple of days does just before death does not a junkie maketh. You're a horrid creep with nothing but slander on your tongue & disprespect of the dead to do. Get a job & cut your hair! Have a shower & join the salvation army left right left right I shall destroy, I shall destroy & REPEAT IT a millionX
Say what you want, this man loved his son, but the "generational gap" was simply too big for these two. Brings me to tears that the father had "True to his Own Nature" inscribed on Jim's headstone. That's a Dad my friends. That's a true Dad.
Professor Time I agree.
Look around today. Do you ever think Jim would have lived in daddy's basement like a loser millennials. Hell No.
well said. it is sad, but there is also a bonding deeper chord of unity & strength between them via his choice of inscription... jim & his father seemed very displaced from each other as jim reached manhood. yet, it actually wasnt that uncommon for proud spirits like both of them in that era to be distanced. the admiral knew of such displacement on a deeper level perhaps then his son. he came of age in the tough & lean '30's & fought w/ & saw many good men die in combat in ww2. some of them also free spirits like his son. In that era it was expected for a strong willed male to find his way thru his own wits & courage.... Thus, thats the unifying chord imo w/ his inscription. earned respect. the silent, but powerful currency thru wh/ males many times interchanged. action & willingness to stick to ones guns. the verbal bridge would have to come later. sadness obviously in him that it didnt. yet, there is also great understanding for his son's warrior spirit. unspoken pride in his son's willingness to commit w/ such passion & mark to what he felt so deep in his heart. the inner core of freedom. the balls it takes to really grasp it. his dad came to know his son had such legion in his blood as did he for his own station in life. earned respect runs very deep between father & son.
Children were not coddled, like they are, today. There was a lot of discipline and tough love. Parents were there for guidance and love, not to be their child’s best friend. Jim’s father obviously, wanted the best, for his son.
I tend to agree, yet he could have at least read some of his son's more poetic lyrics.
It is worth noting that Admiral Morrison, later in his life, participated with John Densmore to block Ray Manzarek and Robbie Krieger from cashing in on the Door's music by selling it for a commercial. Back in the late 60's Jim was adamant that their songs NOT be sold for commercials. In the early 2000's, both Manzarek and Krieger tried to sell the Door's catalogue for $15 million. John Densmore wrote a letter to Jim's aging father who agreed to join forces with Densmore to NOT sell the soul of the Door's to General Motors. Thank you John Densmore and Admiral Morrison!!
Exactly that's why McCartney and Yoko wanted his and John's music catalog.
It was finally agreed to use"Break On Through" in only limited commercials (Cadillac) and limited number. I only saw and heard commercial once. Shocked, later read for that use 10 million dollars. That should show you what the SCUM are about. Cadillac sales are in the tank HA HA GM.
bulls-eye. the scot blood runs very deep when it comes to drawing the line in the sand for ones deeply held convictions. it takes a warriors spirit to understand that. jim's dad though miles away from understanding the music scene jim was in, nevertheless was at the center of understanding the balls it took to make the stand his son did. the old man stood up for his son's conviction. as jim himself said, when push comes to shove, soul beats money.
Breaks my heart to see. Even 40 years later, Admiral Morrison misses his boy as would any parent. Yes, his Dad was probably a hard-ass and most likely "didn't get" his son. I'm sure if they'd had more time, they could have come together once again. If there's an afterlife then I hope they're together again.
There's a hell of a lot more love for Jim evident from Admiral Morrison here then Oliver Stone would ever have people believe. Jim's Dad STILL doesn't fully realize what the eventual place in history will be for his son and The Doors. That era in music came about on the crest of a cultural wave. It was the spiritual result of a time and a place that was as unique and unrepeatable as a DNA sequence. It's for this reason that, eventually, The Doors will be spoken of in the same breath as Mozart, Beethoven. It'll take time, but it will happen.
The pen is mightier than the sword as the saying goes.
Great comment 👍
Questionable how celebrated Jim would be without his early death.
Comparison with Mozart and Beethoven is idiotic.
Dad it turned out your son was a fabulous singer an you were a great father..
Hard to watch this even after all that time you can see how much he hurts and still has trouble grasping the fact the his son became a true artistic legend
Hes father seemed a very nice guy.
Yeah, now!
He started the gulf of tonkin evil fuck
@@flipflop6525
Very few parents in the 60s would be happy to hear their college-educated child was going to wander around and then try singing rock, especially when they had no background in music of any kind. Rock was a new thing, and the hippie lifestyle wasnt exactly impressive to most parents, who had scraped a living through the Depression and WW2. 99% of such rock wanabees ended up unemployed.
l can tell that his Father loved him and that any parent who has to bury his son would be heartbroken. l think Jim was a gentle spirit even though he had drinking issues. The generation gap was a bit wide. However if Jim had made it he most likely would have mended his relationship with Pops. Twenty seven is just too darn young to die. Sad.
A very impressive man, humane, careful in his observations. Old school. Impressive. Think about how people talk today.
“He was just someone who you would like to know” ):
Makes me cry 😢 for pops
Looks like the Admiral really truly regrets the time estranged from his son & loved him dearly. Vale Mr Mojo Rising RIP
Obviously very much loved by his family.
Jim was so handsome!! Love how he looks!!
Azul azul Azul
Only briefly. Got fat.
strange that the understanding in the dialogue has changed so much in the comments. even over 10 years ago when his father finally addressed the issue. My understanding was always that his father hated his choices, and was extremely hard on him. Coming from that generation, wanting his son to join the navy and follow in his footsteps. He wanted his son to be respectable, and saw this as going down the wrong path. Fearing his son like MOST of those hippies; would end up dead, homeless, or destroyed from the drugs and culture. That it took decades for his father to finally come to terms with just how many people were positively effected by his music. And that was essentially the difference in his coming to terms. I don't think he was a bad dad in any sense. But in those days if you acted out, especially with drugs, you got straightened out. And i dont think that kind of family cohesion is really very common place these days. Leaving so many to completely miss the dynamic. He loved his son sure, but An admiral of his time. dealing with the politics and hatred from the public towards vets; having his own son arrested; brings a lot of shame to the family. To everyone in washington and the blue collar hard workers.. the entire movement was a disgrace to the country. Understanding that i think really lets you understand the relationship. Honor, respect, family name and so forth.
Beautiful family
The burial in Pere Lachaise in Paris has burnished Jim's myth, and it is touching to see his father take this as if it was a decision by the French govt to honor him. But nothing could be farther from the truth. Jim died of a drug overdose in a bar with drugs supplied to him by his girlfriend's dealer. He was then secretly carried back to the apartment by one or two friends. Then they called the police and the friends told them it was a heart attack. An autopsy would have been normal, but his friends were desperate to avoid this because it would prove drugs. They somehow convinced the police to skip the autopsy, and described him not as a rock musician (the police had never heard of him) but as a poet. Otherwise, the authorities would never agree to Pere Lachaise for a rock musician in those years, especially one barely known in France. So through clever manipulation they got him accepted for Pere Lachaise as a "poet" and buried him very quickly with virtually no one there but 3 or 4 people. You'll note this interview mentions he was already buried before they even heard he was dead.
so u were there too right otherwise how could u speak of it with such air of certainty i mean i do not assume and hope yr some kind of parrot
@@nillehessy
I've done quite a bit of reading on the topic and seen essentially all the
interviews with people who were there.
This is an accurate statement.
@@afritimm yeh reading counting
i wouldn´t count on it
He obviously loved his son. But when a parent doesn't support their child's dreams it can have a devastating impact on them even as adults. Very sad.
Mike Boguski Music Sorry if YOU had a bad experience. I’ve played for a living my whole life. I’m 66 and still doing it. I have a great life I wouldn’t trade for anything. Artists do what they do because they’re driven to. If a parent doesn’t support that then they’re full of shit. Period.
Mr Morrison you should be proud of Jim.
Louis Pulice
And Jim should have been proud of his father, a very impressive humane person.
He is, just listen what he says...
He is!
One of the saddest videos I've ever watched. I believe father and son would have been as one eventually. To see the pain in his dad's eyes that always gets right to my heart. Rog. Pacific sunset records.
Yes...he is so sad and bewildered
Admiral Morrison looks just like Marshall Applewhite from the Heaven's Gate Cult. I think it's his twin brother.
The Byrds' Roger McGuinn:
“David Crosby didn’t like him, but I always had a lot of respect for Jim Morrison. We played together at the Whisky but didn’t really get to know each other well then. He was very clever and artistic, into things like Kurt Weill. He was a really sharp guy, and knew a lot about how to project an image. When you talked to him he was just a regular guy, but he really played that image of his well. He was an actor.”
Cool. Very interesting.
A Rock Star and a Navy Admiral don't occupy the same reality, so his father could not get his head around it. I don't think Jim's choice was necessarily a sane one for that matter. He did something remarkable and it destroyed him, or something about himself lead to self destruction.
In the end, as his sister illustrates, fame killed him - just as it did many others. It seems like a good choice at first for any ambitious young man or woman with talent, but in the end they would rather be rid of it the majority of the time - especially if they have deeply rooted integrity. You can see his father loved him - all fathers love their sons (mostly - ) but they didn't speak for many years and Jim died very young, so in my perception it makes it all the more sad. Both great men - I hope they are reunited somehow, now...
I think it's horrific that this man was so alienated from his son that he had to find out about his death on the radio....
They werent alienated. Jim had just chosen to go off and drift around after college in a way he knew his parents wouldnt understand, so he chose not to keep in touch very much.
I think, he loved his son very much, but he didn't know how to show it.
Father love your son
The movie "The Doors" happened with the best agreement Oliver Stone could get with everyone. Pam's family's were very difficult. Didn't want Pam protrayed as the one who got Jim interested/hooked on heroin.
But of course Pam was the enabler. It was she who lined up a French drug dealer in Paris and gave Jim drugs.
He would have just stayed with alcohol. Both she and her dealer OD'd within a couple of years.
they and you all need to read the book Jim Morrison: Life, Death, Legend by Stephen Davis
this was on When You're strange
scott jensen no it wasn't
sad what happened to him
I wonder what jims father thought of pam just as soon as jim was put in the ground she was flying home telling everyone to say they had been together for 7 years so she could get everything.
I thought they were married?
No but she did took his last name
Reading "Neitze" will really screw you UP!! Not to mention, the Drug culture in general....
Very bizarre that the son of a navy admiral was buried without family consent or a proper autopsy?
His father was the admiral of the the ship in the gulf of tonkin wake up people!
Total lie.
"Morrison's command of the Fifth Carrier Division did not, as has sometimes been supposed, give him a significant role in the controversial Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August 1964, which increased the level of US involvement in the Vietnam War. The Bon Homme Richard was cruising along the coast of Japan, from Sasebo to Yokosuka, while the incidents were occurring off the coast of North Vietnam."
---Wikipedia
@@afritimm you’re wrong Ted and Wikipedia is garbage.
In 1963, George Stephen Morrison took command of the Essex-class aircraft carrier, USS Bon Homme Richard (CV-31). In August 1964, he was aboard the vessel and tasked with commanding the US Naval forces in the Gulf of Tonkin.
@@darrenturcotte7799
There's no proof that the initial strike on the Maddox was deliberately mischaracterized. But even if so, it didnt matter to the ultimate decision to bomb NVietnam:
1) Following the second engagement, Morrison and his staff told the US Navy headquarters in Hawaii that the radar returns the destroyers had targeted were probably false ones generated by bad weather. This message was subsequently relayed to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, who failed to give those details to Johnson.
2) We know from taped conversations between LBJ and McNamara that LBJ suspected the initial reports were wrong.
But it was well AFTER this that LBJ made the decision to bomb N. Vietnam anyway.
3) Sorry to blow your conspiracy theory.
Mr Mojo Risin.
Very sad
yeh well morrison also carried that huge secret with him of
his pappa pappa morrison the u.s navy youngest admiral &
commander in chief of the u.s fleet that was in south east asia and even false flagged re-started the vietnam war
all while jim was being at same time was propelled in rock stratospheres + that brought that layed on unofficial title of the most loved anti-anti war-movement´s figurehead / posterboy
.... yeh i bet he wanted to get rid of certain people certain controlling people (handlers actually) and all the yes nodders
.. yeh that can be quite ehh ... yeh
and i´m not judging nobody here alright is not what i´m about and idk
all the details and even then..
Gulf of tonkin commander. Not nice
Total lie.
"Morrison's command of the Fifth Carrier Division did not, as has sometimes been supposed, give him a significant role in the controversial Gulf of Tonkin Incident in August 1964, which increased the level of US involvement in the Vietnam War. The Bon Homme Richard was cruising along the coast of Japan, from Sasebo to Yokosuka, while the incidents were occurring off the coast of North Vietnam."
--Wikipedia
He never even listened to his own sons albums and lyrics? He disowned Jim when he went to film school and never took an interest afterwards. He never even knew his son, that is not a father.
Rubbish. He didnt "disown" him, whatever that means. The father encouraged the film studies. Did you even listen?
Looks like when Jim flew the coop mommy and daddy weren't around had no idea their son turned into a junkie.
Dave Goffredo
you are a fuckin idiot how dare you speak so ROTTEN OF THE DECEASED......
You idiot smoking heroin a few times over a couple of days does just before death does not a junkie maketh. You're a horrid creep with nothing but slander on your tongue & disprespect of the dead to do. Get a job & cut your hair! Have a shower & join the salvation army left right left right I shall destroy, I shall destroy & REPEAT IT a millionX