In PiG's twitch channel we were guessing you were playing macro without attack/defense upgrades. With the idle e-bays in game 1 looks like we were correct.
I would like to see you hunt down Zerg overlords. Maybe turn it into a denial challenge based on matchup. Terran and/or Protoss isn’t allowed to have a third base but you can’t kill any buildings but command centers and nexus. Thanks for being awesome and releasing great and consistent content.
I love the ESL cup while selecting from fun builds you've showcased so much, there are so many favorites that I love to see come up now and then. Would love to see the BC build, mass ghosts, penguins, they're all so fun and this is such a great series.
I did not guess what the challange was, but I liked the idea. In second game with Astrea you had some INSANE MICRO. He kept sending units and you just wouldn't die! Win against Astrea also deserves mention. Great video as always. Keep it up. 👍
Hey uThermal, is there anyway we could get a vid on you going back to the basics? I've got under 100 hrs in Starcraft and feel I could learn a lot from your keybinds, settings, just things you might consider second nature to do that non-pros don't. Stuck on the very-hard AI and that's with cheesing them lol! I get wiped online PvP easily
Marc, just by watching your videos, I managed to get from Silver 1 to Gold 1 in 3 days 😀 I've been watching for almost a year I believe now and I learned A TON just observing you. I am not as fast as you, but I can deal with stupid stuff a lot better. Thanks a lot, keep up the good work - maybe we will play on grandmaster one day together 😆(doubting it, since I am 32y old already)
@@kevinmcdunn8058 masters is no pipe dream, people made it into masters 1 with 60 apm (with protoss). however you gotta put in a lot of work to get a great understanding of the game.
@@kevinmcdunn8058 it is possible. I made it to Masters as well. But I think its more Important at this Point to learn proper Macro builds instead of the cheese builds from uthermal. At least if you don’t want to be the typical cheese ladder guy who plays always like a Silver league player when you stop his cheese
Very nice! First I thought it was m&m, then speed running, then I had some other ideas but didn't actually work out it was no upgrades till you said :)
Through 3 games, I don't think I've seen a single upgrade yet. So, knowing I might look like a fool for guessing before all the games, I'm going to guess no upgrades allowed.
A possibly very hard or very easy, social based challenge. Ask the opponents what unit comp they want you to make Edit: also this is more like I kinda would like to see what happens with this at the gm level, not like a guess
After 1:17 and watching the thumbnail, I believe the challenge is no medivac. Will edit after new information lol. edit : Just saw medivac so.... No scouting challenge and maybe no reaper? edit edit: emmm.... always CC first? edit edit edit: last try, no upgrade?
Last try was correct. I think. Second game had like every unit so really all you have to do is look to see what he doesn’t have. First game I thought it was marine only but then second game gave a lot away.
My guess at 20:36 is you're doing a scout/react challenge where you don't decide what build/composition until you see what you're opponent is doing. Basically being a pro gamer. LOL
0:20 just gonna wait and guess cuz there's no way im getting it at the start 6:07 drop only challenge? something about that attack at that timing seemed off to me 9:45 ok so hes going for mech play now, which means he might want to do variety while attempting the same challenge hmmm 15:10 still hasn't moved out yet... 20:16 "non-stop drops" hmmmm, tho he did tank move out last game
I'm so glad that uThermal and PiG have gotten me back into starcraft this year, I haven't played in over a decade. I'm still salty that they got rid of the protoss fighter jets (scout) from SC1 😂
@@chill_fridge Purely aesthetics, it was a cool fighter jet and I was about 8 years old lol I didn't even know how to play, I'd just spam cheat codes and fill the map with fighter jets and cannons
Here's a challenge to consider: Proxy Tech All Tech Research Buildings have to be built OUTSIDE of the Main/Natural. This means Tech Labs, Armory, Engineering Bay, Fusion Core, and Ghost Academy has to be built in "vulnerable space" (Not within the confines of your main base defenses). What do you think?
Oh well i thought you do different challenge for each match, and the first is marine-medivac drops, but i couldn't recoginze the other four. I didn't realize that it's just one challenge, and one that you didn't make a series of :D
Okay so for me, I did not like not knowing what the challenge was. It kinda felt, lonely? idk it's hard to explain, but it also kept me "on" when most of the time I watch TH-cam to turn "off" if that makes sense. That said, here are my guesses when I came to them: (Potential spoilers ahead) 5:37 Buddy system. No unit can move out without a friend / attacking units must be in even numbers 12:41 Hmm, that is a single Reaper. But it does have two guns so maybe that's okay? 13:58 Another thought, all the units he has built so far have the letter e in their name. But the thumbnail has tanks. All the units also had a except hellions. I think all the units also had a letter from his opponent's name, though that's a bit of a stretch... 19:40 Okay all of my theories have sucked so far. Maybe it has something to do with his hotkeys? I don't pay attention to those so there could be something there. 27:37 No upgrades?
Hi, thanks for your videos. I know it takes time so it's your call but would love to see more often a very quick review of the game at the end, especially when even yourself has a doubt on something : for exemple last game when you're wondering how he saw you coming on the left and on the right, did he have obs or was he guessing ? Would love a quick flash-back in the replay at the end of the game just to see in few seconds that kind of stuff more often (cuz i know you already do it, sometimes). Thanks ! Cheers
@ 4:30 I guess it is no scouting challenge??? Edit: second game ... well I guess you could call that a scout. - I feel I have never seen uThermal not scouting so now I am wondering if he was just trying to confuse us!
My initial thought midway through the first game was some low gas restriction. But you eventually took more gases and it clearly wasn't a unit restriction. During the third game I was like, "maybe no upgrades, but I thought I saw thermy go double ebay game 1." I soon realized you did never make upgrades, but was like "Did this man really go double ebay to hide the challenge from us?"
For better medivac support... use P if they are in another group.. tehy will more aggressively heal... whne you bioball is move keying this way they are healed as they leave...
First, i must say that i really love your videos thermy, and that I am amazed at how you make such a great content in non-native language You get more said while playing, in english, than for example Winter while commentating a replay ;) Keep it up legend!
I agree, uThermal is a great content creator but, comparing someone commentating their own live gameplay and someone casting a replay they've never seen is kind of unfair as they are 2 completely separate skills that take an incredible amount of mental dexterity to accomplish and remain entertaining.
@@Not0bito Marc actually talks about tactics while winter makes low tier dad jokes (most of the time). Don't get me wrong, I enjoy both channels but Thermy is much better at this TH-cam stuff imo. Cheers mate.
@@Not0bito I also like Winter's channel, what i meant was that in my opinion, uThermal's style is just on another level And i guess it's because he made career in sc2 and is really on point with his commentary, all while he plays, it's like being in the brain of a pro player All of that in another language than his native one. TL:DR - Winter and Thermy should make a video together TL:DR:2 - And if they don't want to, then Thermy and Lowko
@@micaelnarper2091 I didn't intend on coming off as aggressive I promise. I was just trying to say that dumbing Winters content and casting down to "dad jokes" was a bit off the mark. I will say that he certainly does make an attempt at humor a bit too often but, he does also provide very valuable insight in most/all of his casts. I personally prefer PiG's casting over pretty much anyone else's in terms of straight game casting but, when it comes to play-casting uThermal is second to none.
I think a pretty cool challenge would be to make only two units each game, but you can change which units those are for each game. We've seen so many good series come out of that format (marine/medivac, hellion/raven, battle cruiser/widow mine, etc) that I think would be really cool to see rotating in something like an ESL cup video. You could even randomize one unit and allow yourself to choose the other or randomize both to make it even harder. 🤔🤷♂️
PLZ do a cloak units only to gm series . you could play random and dt drop. ghost, banshees. burrowed units lurker/roach /infestors or even burrowed bane lings. i would love to see some early dt drops and denying of detections!
After first game it looked like marine medivac only, but then I had no idea what challenge it could be so I am going to go with "playing normally" which is kind of a challenge for hardcore memer like you :D Update: ... you said you forgot your double ebay. Mindgame on viewers, that's not allowed :D
I guessed it right in the first game, but then you made two engineering bays and I thought "it can't be it". I never checked you actually haven't started the upgrades on them.
Random challenge is at worst, likely a heavy unit restriction build but doable. A random unit challenge could often be impossible. Do we mean literally 1 unit type? Definitely spells doom. Do we mean roll 2 times, 3 times to pick our army comp? Don't know if that's what you were intending but even so the likelihood that it would be a build that doesn't work is high. But hey, if uTh thinks he can pull it off, I say why not. Just watch him roll Medivac and MULE though
Stim is an addiction and a scourge on our communities. Try telling all the medivac mommies who’ve lost loved ones to stim pack that it is an “upgrade.”
I think your challenge is blind strategies. I noticed first game you didn’t scout. Second game I noticed you didn’t either. You’re also not attacking first, waiting before scouting or countering. CC first for first two games as well
My guess at 25 minutes in, is if you're playing against Zerg, you're playing like a Zerg, if you're playing against a Protoss, you're playing like a Protoss, based on the many units swarming in the first two games, and the raven following your units in the third like an observer might do.
My guess for your challenge will be, God you have so many.... Ghost widow mine medivac..? Tryin to think of ones maybe you haven't done or slightly different from previous challenges.
The challenge is to play without any challenge, because THAT would be challenging for you at this point :D
When Catz did hold position on all his lurkers you should have lifted all your command centers as a salute.
In PiG's twitch channel we were guessing you were playing macro without attack/defense upgrades. With the idle e-bays in game 1 looks like we were correct.
the micro 😮 37:38
how thermy can micro that well while explaining in detail everything he's doing is way beyond me. incredible stuff
For the homies that like to read comments when the video starts: Today there are spoilers, so don't! ❤
Thanks!
I would like to see you hunt down Zerg overlords. Maybe turn it into a denial challenge based on matchup. Terran and/or Protoss isn’t allowed to have a third base but you can’t kill any buildings but command centers and nexus. Thanks for being awesome and releasing great and consistent content.
hunting overlords was part of a Viking and something mission he did before. not facing the army but instead constantly supply blocking them.
@@mh1593 And there's also the new harass only challenge, which is similar as well
thats a cool idea ofr a challenge. i like that genre of challenge too (e.g,. max worker kills, aggressive expo etc
I love the ESL cup while selecting from fun builds you've showcased so much, there are so many favorites that I love to see come up now and then. Would love to see the BC build, mass ghosts, penguins, they're all so fun and this is such a great series.
I did not guess what the challange was, but I liked the idea. In second game with Astrea you had some INSANE MICRO. He kept sending units and you just wouldn't die! Win against Astrea also deserves mention. Great video as always. Keep it up. 👍
Hey uThermal, is there anyway we could get a vid on you going back to the basics? I've got under 100 hrs in Starcraft and feel I could learn a lot from your keybinds, settings, just things you might consider second nature to do that non-pros don't. Stuck on the very-hard AI and that's with cheesing them lol! I get wiped online PvP easily
Yes please!
Have you given his Terran school series a look? There's likely a lot there that you're looking for!
"I thought we were going to die. Never mind, we are going to die." LOL
Marc, just by watching your videos, I managed to get from Silver 1 to Gold 1 in 3 days 😀
I've been watching for almost a year I believe now and I learned A TON just observing you.
I am not as fast as you, but I can deal with stupid stuff a lot better.
Thanks a lot, keep up the good work - maybe we will play on grandmaster one day together 😆(doubting it, since I am 32y old already)
I'd like to add, that I was stuck in Silver 1 ever since I started laddering at SC2. 😆
Good luck! I’m 43 and trying to break into Diamond, and am worried that Masters is a pipe dream. 😅
@@kevinmcdunn8058 good luck to you too! 😀
@@kevinmcdunn8058
masters is no pipe dream, people made it into masters 1 with 60 apm (with protoss).
however you gotta put in a lot of work to get a great understanding of the game.
@@kevinmcdunn8058 it is possible. I made it to Masters as well. But I think its more Important at this Point to learn proper Macro builds instead of the cheese builds from uthermal. At least if you don’t want to be the typical cheese ladder guy who plays always like a Silver league player when you stop his cheese
Very nice! First I thought it was m&m, then speed running, then I had some other ideas but didn't actually work out it was no upgrades till you said :)
I didn’t realize the challenge until the last game, well done 😊
Through 3 games, I don't think I've seen a single upgrade yet. So, knowing I might look like a fool for guessing before all the games, I'm going to guess no upgrades allowed.
After your first game with astrea and something you mentioned during a ling attack Vs Catz I think you're playing :
No attack or armor upgrades
A possibly very hard or very easy, social based challenge. Ask the opponents what unit comp they want you to make
Edit: also this is more like I kinda would like to see what happens with this at the gm level, not like a guess
"A combination of any units that can build structures, harvest minerals, and collect gas"
After 1:17 and watching the thumbnail, I believe the challenge is no medivac.
Will edit after new information lol.
edit : Just saw medivac so.... No scouting challenge and maybe no reaper?
edit edit: emmm.... always CC first?
edit edit edit: last try, no upgrade?
Last try was correct. I think. Second game had like every unit so really all you have to do is look to see what he doesn’t have.
First game I thought it was marine only but then second game gave a lot away.
in the last game, he saw your hellion medivac when he shaded his adept against your wall while it was leaving your base.
My guess at 20:36 is you're doing a scout/react challenge where you don't decide what build/composition until you see what you're opponent is doing. Basically being a pro gamer. LOL
0:20 just gonna wait and guess cuz there's no way im getting it at the start
6:07 drop only challenge? something about that attack at that timing seemed off to me
9:45 ok so hes going for mech play now, which means he might want to do variety while attempting the same challenge hmmm
15:10 still hasn't moved out yet...
20:16 "non-stop drops" hmmmm, tho he did tank move out last game
this last game was completely of a "TH-camMan was arrested for everything" vibe
(google for "man arrested for everything meme" for the reference)
SPOILER WARNING (kind of)
7:03 Actual trickster thermy.
I'm so glad that uThermal and PiG have gotten me back into starcraft this year, I haven't played in over a decade. I'm still salty that they got rid of the protoss fighter jets (scout) from SC1 😂
@@chill_fridge Purely aesthetics, it was a cool fighter jet and I was about 8 years old lol
I didn't even know how to play, I'd just spam cheat codes and fill the map with fighter jets and cannons
That last game almost felt like he could see everything.
Hey Thermy! That first game against Astrea was really a work of art from Leonardo Da Vinci: amazing!
Here's a challenge to consider: Proxy Tech
All Tech Research Buildings have to be built OUTSIDE of the Main/Natural. This means Tech Labs, Armory, Engineering Bay, Fusion Core, and Ghost Academy has to be built in "vulnerable space" (Not within the confines of your main base defenses). What do you think?
Fun video! Loved the concept.
At a some point you said "Ebay ...for turrets." in a way that clued me in lol.
Oh well i thought you do different challenge for each match, and the first is marine-medivac drops, but i couldn't recoginze the other four. I didn't realize that it's just one challenge, and one that you didn't make a series of :D
Man I hate seeing you lose! Team uthermal! Keep up the videos. Checking for them daily
Okay so for me, I did not like not knowing what the challenge was. It kinda felt, lonely? idk it's hard to explain, but it also kept me "on" when most of the time I watch TH-cam to turn "off" if that makes sense.
That said, here are my guesses when I came to them: (Potential spoilers ahead)
5:37 Buddy system. No unit can move out without a friend / attacking units must be in even numbers
12:41 Hmm, that is a single Reaper. But it does have two guns so maybe that's okay?
13:58 Another thought, all the units he has built so far have the letter e in their name. But the thumbnail has tanks. All the units also had a except hellions. I think all the units also had a letter from his opponent's name, though that's a bit of a stretch...
19:40 Okay all of my theories have sucked so far. Maybe it has something to do with his hotkeys? I don't pay attention to those so there could be something there.
27:37 No upgrades?
Excellent first game against Astrea!
That last game gave us a taste of what uThermal’s opponents must feel like when he out big brains them. 😂
You absolutely gave your all and I am HERE FOR IT!
Hi, thanks for your videos. I know it takes time so it's your call but would love to see more often a very quick review of the game at the end, especially when even yourself has a doubt on something : for exemple last game when you're wondering how he saw you coming on the left and on the right, did he have obs or was he guessing ? Would love a quick flash-back in the replay at the end of the game just to see in few seconds that kind of stuff more often (cuz i know you already do it, sometimes). Thanks !
Cheers
That defensive reaper mine timing was epic! That's the point of StarCraft, to feel that you are the greatest! :D
Timestamp please
@@nadademamaditas @22:45 :)
@@Gracefullcadence thanks!
Why dont you target the battery?
Dont target the batteries challenge 😂
bro the longer I watch you the more impressed I am
Awesome episode. 👌 very soothing
guessing at 10:37 challenge could be No gas before 2nd CC placed? Edit: apparently not
@ 4:30 I guess it is no scouting challenge???
Edit: second game ... well I guess you could call that a scout. - I feel I have never seen uThermal not scouting so now I am wondering if he was just trying to confuse us!
Would love to see “double:triple prong attack” challenge. Any units allowed, as long as you attack at multiple places at once
nice idea
I like. Also can u do only two supply depots allowed
@@flipmode46 what about 1? ;)
@@PhuVinh030609 lets try it
Zoinks
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.....guessed no ebay upgrades at around @20:52
My initial thought midway through the first game was some low gas restriction. But you eventually took more gases and it clearly wasn't a unit restriction. During the third game I was like, "maybe no upgrades, but I thought I saw thermy go double ebay game 1." I soon realized you did never make upgrades, but was like "Did this man really go double ebay to hide the challenge from us?"
Once I saw two ebays with no upgrades - it was obvious. Why build ebays is another question... probably to make it harder to guess!
I love how for the first match youre just hype about how much of a rascal your opponent is being lol
For better medivac support... use P if they are in another group.. tehy will more aggressively heal... whne you bioball is move keying this way they are healed as they leave...
If the challenge doesn't involve a fast triple CC I'm eating a swarm host. But if that is the only challenge or there is more, that I don't know...
Wooo! new Uthermal video
That reaper nade in gsme 1 vs astra was insane
I thought I remembered the single gas cc first opening. Aggressive terran when pros have been playing turtley 2 gas openings
No siege mode? Or like, no abilities?
First, i must say that i really love your videos thermy, and that I am amazed at how you make such a great content in non-native language
You get more said while playing, in english, than for example Winter while commentating a replay ;)
Keep it up legend!
I agree, uThermal is a great content creator but, comparing someone commentating their own live gameplay and someone casting a replay they've never seen is kind of unfair as they are 2 completely separate skills that take an incredible amount of mental dexterity to accomplish and remain entertaining.
@@Not0bito Marc actually talks about tactics while winter makes low tier dad jokes (most of the time). Don't get me wrong, I enjoy both channels but Thermy is much better at this TH-cam stuff imo. Cheers mate.
@@Not0bito I also like Winter's channel, what i meant was that in my opinion, uThermal's style is just on another level
And i guess it's because he made career in sc2 and is really on point with his commentary, all while he plays, it's like being in the brain of a pro player
All of that in another language than his native one.
TL:DR - Winter and Thermy should make a video together
TL:DR:2 - And if they don't want to, then Thermy and Lowko
@@micaelnarper2091 I didn't intend on coming off as aggressive I promise. I was just trying to say that dumbing Winters content and casting down to "dad jokes" was a bit off the mark. I will say that he certainly does make an attempt at humor a bit too often but, he does also provide very valuable insight in most/all of his casts. I personally prefer PiG's casting over pretty much anyone else's in terms of straight game casting but, when it comes to play-casting uThermal is second to none.
@@Not0bito 🙄
Just had a cone and im excited to see whats in store! Lets have some good games 🤘🤘🤘🤠
Pizza and pickles.
Around 5:00 - Doom drops?
Around 19:00 - CC first?
Burrow Bros, burrowed roaches and lurkers.
I think a pretty cool challenge would be to make only two units each game, but you can change which units those are for each game. We've seen so many good series come out of that format (marine/medivac, hellion/raven, battle cruiser/widow mine, etc) that I think would be really cool to see rotating in something like an ESL cup video. You could even randomize one unit and allow yourself to choose the other or randomize both to make it even harder. 🤔🤷♂️
🎲🎲 gives uThy...
Medivac!
&
MULE!
Good luck!
@@chill_fridge 😂😂😂
5:56 Guessing now that it's marine medivac challenge?
12:25 I'm wrong
PLZ do a cloak units only to gm series . you could play random and dt drop. ghost, banshees. burrowed units lurker/roach /infestors or even burrowed bane lings. i would love to see some early dt drops and denying of detections!
Was just refreshing my TH-cam to see if there's a new upload :)
Crazy challenge! (I refuse to spoil it) 😁
After first game it looked like marine medivac only, but then I had no idea what challenge it could be so I am going to go with "playing normally" which is kind of a challenge for hardcore memer like you :D
Update: ... you said you forgot your double ebay. Mindgame on viewers, that's not allowed :D
I guessed it right in the first game, but then you made two engineering bays and I thought "it can't be it". I never checked you actually haven't started the upgrades on them.
I have no idea what you're doing, but I'd watch the hell out of Mass Lurker Drop to GM
Mass Random Unit challenge would be almost the same as random challenge? Or am I wrong?
Random challenge is at worst, likely a heavy unit restriction build but doable.
A random unit challenge could often be impossible. Do we mean literally 1 unit type? Definitely spells doom. Do we mean roll 2 times, 3 times to pick our army comp? Don't know if that's what you were intending but even so the likelihood that it would be a build that doesn't work is high.
But hey, if uTh thinks he can pull it off, I say why not. Just watch him roll Medivac and MULE though
@@chill_fridge
Maybe 2 random units but making sure that all bases are covered
And you can always make médicas right?
Does stim not count as an upgrade?
well marines are just garbage without it so... lol not, its standard equipment lol
Stim is an addiction and a scourge on our communities. Try telling all the medivac mommies who’ve lost loved ones to stim pack that it is an “upgrade.”
yeah
No attack/armor upgrades?
He built two engineering bays.
I guessed no upgrades on the 3rd game start but remembered you put down 2 engineering bays in game 1. Didn't jibe.
DAmn, I thought that it wont be a challenge that you already did, but i was a new challenge
I mean ITS nice too to See U Play "normal" as well in These tournaments
You can't claim the challenge is no upgrades when you consistently grabbed upgrades during the entire thing, stim and combat shields are all upgrades
The Byun challenge? Marine/medevac/marauder?
Edit: hellion says no deal
"Actually" count: 99
Mr. Actually (aka uThermal) used the word "actually" 99 times in this video (a new record!)
Literally everyone wants guitar hero controller with your feet to GM.
I think your challenge is blind strategies. I noticed first game you didn’t scout. Second game I noticed you didn’t either.
You’re also not attacking first, waiting before scouting or countering. CC first for first two games as well
I thought it was a 5:1:1 challenge all the way up until the end haha xD guess it just happened to be that way each game.
I guessed it's no upgrades but then i saw the combat shields and discarded it.
The first game to me, looked like Marine medevac.
5 minutes into game 1, I guess no scout, no leaving base in first 5 mins.
I was wondering if it's no EBay/Armory upgrades or medivac drops :P
I love your never give up attitude
at 10:12 guess is CC first only challenge
some sort of snowball challenge? Or just no lategame challenge
Guesses after game one: no reapers, expo before production?
My guess at 25 minutes in, is if you're playing against Zerg, you're playing like a Zerg, if you're playing against a Protoss, you're playing like a Protoss, based on the many units swarming in the first two games, and the raven following your units in the third like an observer might do.
at 5:00 first game, my guess is no scouting
My guess for your challenge will be, God you have so many.... Ghost widow mine medivac..? Tryin to think of ones maybe you haven't done or slightly different from previous challenges.
You may not be competing as a pro, but you are definitely top 15, and lately, I'd say ur getting higher (without even trying/having a blast:). 🎉
1st game 5:56 sounds like marine medivac...
Marine only?
I’m 5 minutes into game 1, and I think the challenge is no scouting.
Gotta do the challenge wheel in a tourney
TH-camMan is on TH-cam again going ham.
Love the guess the challenge game
Funny that you beat Astraea with a misplaced third
after game 1 its m&M&M build for sure
Your vids are so entertaining.
No scouting??
Can't go over 3 cc's?
For me it looks like CC first challenge so far.