When to Change Brake Pads, Thickness Minimum and WHY

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  • @karlfuller6806
    @karlfuller6806 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    got play in my steering 93 vector sport do a vid for that lol

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This explains the most likely issue:
      th-cam.com/video/cAtKiEoRD-g/w-d-xo.html
      and this tells you how to replace the affected part:
      th-cam.com/video/K7CuWjN8VJk/w-d-xo.html
      Thanks for watching

  • @jims2507
    @jims2507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I've been wondering why to change brakes at 3mm. You're the first person who actually explains why! Thanks!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, a very little known thing, me thinks. One of my ex-uni mates is a subject expert in Chassis Systems!!

    • @sholomnb
      @sholomnb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had the same question; why at 3?
      Thanks and I love listening to the English English!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sholomnb Yeah, it's not at all obvious and tech manuals never seem to explain it. yet it's so important.

    • @GMoney-B
      @GMoney-B 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such a good video. Got some other work done on my car and they said to change my brakes soon that it was nearly down to the metal but saw it had tons left. Was so confused why they thought or would say that. That makes sense with the area that is bonded near the metal plate.

  • @Thomas-bs2em
    @Thomas-bs2em 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Nice trick with the allen key mate. I was going to remove the pads and measure them with a micrometer but I like your method more.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Saves a lot of effort! ✔

    • @RapIsDeadly
      @RapIsDeadly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CycloneCyd Brilliant!!

  • @sicmike2g
    @sicmike2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always thought this was a waste of brake pad material, now I know why, thank you. I will be using that Allen key trick, thanks.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I got this info from brakes Engineers at work about a decade ago. Hardly anyone outside the industry seems to know about this. Which is strange considering how important it is to safety.

  • @brarautorepairs
    @brarautorepairs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Amazing, I never realized this despite working on cars for many years. As a habit, I don't like to waste anything so I will try to make sure I wear my pads down fully before replacing them (always leaving some pad material to prevent direct contact to the rotors).

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, few outside the OEMs seem to know this.

  • @guidancefromjah
    @guidancefromjah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best video on TH-cam for this. Should be the first thing popping up when searching about brake pad wear.

  • @RapIsDeadly
    @RapIsDeadly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why 3mm....well now I know! Thank you for such a well explained video and the allen key trick.

  • @1992it
    @1992it 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who are the 2 people dislike this video? This is an awesome solid video.
    Great work and that Allen key hack is very very clutch

  • @HVACENGINEER94
    @HVACENGINEER94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From across the pond , I just want to say, Brilliant !! Excellent explanation. Cheers

  • @oahu7873
    @oahu7873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This explains why to replace when down to less than 3mm. Always wonder, thought i still had plenty of pad left.👍

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Few people outside the industry seem to know this, yet it's so safety critical.

  • @nedcramdon1306
    @nedcramdon1306 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Cyd! Good to know, and hello from Nova Scotia.

  • @CRVB7
    @CRVB7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is probably the only video with zero dislikes on TH-cam.
    Straight forward and informative.Thanks.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks CVB7, I hadn't noticed, but you're right. Quite an accolade when the 'dislike squad' seem to like it. lol lol lol

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now you've gone and done it, lol. You put the kibosh on it - it's got 2x dislikes in the last 3 months. 😂😂👎

    • @CRVB7
      @CRVB7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@Cyclone Cyd You have to factor in the pandemic. People are more tense now😂😂Bright side is that it is a history record now of 2 years without dislikes. lol

  • @stevebutler812
    @stevebutler812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DYI many car maintenance items, often learning from YT. I have a few videos too. Learned some useful info and yet, I am still not doing my own brakes. Informative & helpful, thanks

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you watch my 9-3 discs and pads video it's got all the best practices in it and is relevant whatever car you drive.

  • @kubaniski
    @kubaniski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the information. It really helps to know why im doing something.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed it does. Welcome aboard

  • @onpsxmember
    @onpsxmember 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helpful. I came here since you recommended not using copper paste. Thx.
    Always check your lens before recording. Doing the front of my Cee'd ED.
    Got the Textar Ceratec for this.

  • @abc978abc
    @abc978abc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea to check the break pad.

  • @superhard6606
    @superhard6606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good, clearly simple and useful video, bless you

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot and welcome aboard

  • @k01yunya
    @k01yunya วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man, thank you for a great explanation but what's going on with your lenses? I had to check my monitor is not broken 😅

  • @404notfound.....
    @404notfound..... ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I'm down to 2mm, time to change!!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed, but the beauty of knowing this is it allows you to get the maximum use and value from a set of pads. Of course, you also need even wear on all four pads: watch this paying special attention to cleaning and lubing the slide pins th-cam.com/video/weNTH8dSabc/w-d-xo.html

  • @dannyf4995
    @dannyf4995 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Just a question regarding the rotors. Do I need to replace the rotors or resurfacing them when replacing the pads?

  • @mled31611
    @mled31611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks 3mm I never knew that and I've changed a lot of brake pads

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The lower limit for the MoT is 1.5mm. At that point the pads are already dangerous

  • @precool
    @precool 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Cyd!

  • @jeffburtonnottheracecardriver
    @jeffburtonnottheracecardriver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like time for new rotors too Mate!

  • @SeekingSnow
    @SeekingSnow ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the advice!

  • @nilarwin3375
    @nilarwin3375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the information this is very helpful.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so welcome!

  • @Nonegiven14582
    @Nonegiven14582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks. Your video is really helpful. I subscribed. I have a car with all round disc brakes and seems more than 3mm even on the back. But the brakes make a bit of a grinding sound when I first get in the car.
    I just had a major service. Which might have been rushed to get my car the MOT that day. So I can't complain about the garage. But when I asked them to look at the brakes at the end of last year, they said the front pads were new.
    Why am I getting that grinding noise when I get in the vehicle? But after braking hard a few times it seems to go. Have they done something or is it just dirt after having my brake fluid changed?

  • @dragosmoldoveanu6862
    @dragosmoldoveanu6862 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good explanation!

  • @Maximus-pv9ey
    @Maximus-pv9ey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your video kind Sir !

  • @eeyyaakk6801
    @eeyyaakk6801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned something from this video. Subscribed! keep it up!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the idea. Thanks and welcome aboard.

  • @chrismayhew2924
    @chrismayhew2924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the very informative video!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Chris. I learnt about the construction of pads and the interlayer as the result of a chance conversation with a pad engineer from TMD Friction (who make Mintex & Pagid brands) and thought it might be useful, because I see so many people leaving pads til they are virtually down to the metal.

  • @harrys1848
    @harrys1848 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Handy video, thanks.

  • @robbyddurham1624
    @robbyddurham1624 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At least one exception to the less than 3mm for pad replacement. Parking brake pads under disk brakes.

  • @gabydelacruz4624
    @gabydelacruz4624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you this was really helpful.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍👍👍👍👍

  • @nebojsa1976
    @nebojsa1976 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are rotors really need to be replaced often? Even if they are at minimum thickness, I have a feeling that they can last for at least 5 more years. Before rotors were not replaced that often. Just in last 20 years everyone started talking about replacing it all the time.

  • @MuhammadRaza-qc5nn
    @MuhammadRaza-qc5nn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome content thanks

  • @Chorith77
    @Chorith77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @Brararaf101
    @Brararaf101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey big debate about transmission fluid i have myself and many I know went over 300k orig fluid many years. Do you recommend changing fluid it's camry 4 cyl mostly highway 60 k miles
    toyota manual says leave it alone. Dealership says change it and my mechanic to do not touch. I like to keep driving as long as possible w out engine or transmission job

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oil degrades with use and age and condensation. OEs class "life" as 10-12 years 120-150,000 miles. There was a time it was normal to change MTF every 30-50,000 miles.
      OEs want your car to wear out so you have to scrap and buy another.
      I do the MTF every 30-40,000 miles.

    • @Brararaf101
      @Brararaf101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CycloneCyd idk my buddy for 2 cars Ford van and Toyota over 15 years prob 20 years 300k a lot city driving same w my old camry. Orig fluid

  • @kambostewart8056
    @kambostewart8056 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using an Alem key. Genius!

  • @A.A.HadiWhite
    @A.A.HadiWhite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do I know the brake pad size or type for my car? Is there a brake pad number or some sort?

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look your car make/model/type up in the Mintex Brake Book

  • @donovanm2281
    @donovanm2281 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Helpful.

  • @jjay3740
    @jjay3740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I had my car MOT’d recently (passed with NO advisories on the brakes) however, within 2-300 miles the brakes begun scraping badly and became much worse at stopping the car! Should my brakes have failed or at least been an advisory? Thank you

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing. If your pads were just about on minimum I would expect an advisory for sure. They are part of the inspection. ATEOTD though, it's your legal duty to check the pads, not theirs.
      The minimum thickness for an MoT fail is 1.5mm which is below the minimum usable thickness anyway. HTH

  • @garrid3244
    @garrid3244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks dude

  • @gaving4301
    @gaving4301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My car manual says minimum thickness is 1.5mm, should I swap them out sooner?

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The manual will be referring to the factory original brake pads. If it has original still fitted, great. If not, 3mm

  • @mytube3687
    @mytube3687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video,
    Is it necessary to surface the rotor every time you replace the pads?

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not at all, unless they need it. If they've got plenty of thickness left but are scored then surface them. If the surface is good, leave them be and fit new pads. Your decision should be DATA based, not one-size-fits-all

  • @joshuamoore24_7
    @joshuamoore24_7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I usually change my brake pads at a 1/4" minimum thickness.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1/4" = 6mm. A shade OCD, but good on yer.

  • @faithinyou7944
    @faithinyou7944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mines on about 3mm but can’t afford to get it done till two week time and need to drive it everyday till then..Will they last and be okay?I know it’s not ideal but It’s the best I can do

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're on 3mm I wouldn't think a bit more light use will cause any harm.

  • @jasminaktar8663
    @jasminaktar8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I’m a new driver here. Whenever I brake at high speeds I can hear a squeaking noise and also when I put my handbrake up, you can hear it from outside the car? Is that normal? I have no car knowledge and I’m getting very anxious, please can you reply, I’d really appreciate it!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You really shouldn't be pulling on your handbrake whilst driving. You could end up going backwards under the nearest HGV in a flash❗
      Some brake pads have a wear indicator which creates a screeching noise. Check pad wear.

    • @jasminaktar8663
      @jasminaktar8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CycloneCyd it happened when I was trying to park😭 I heard a horrible noise. Very stupid of me. How much would you say it’d cost to replace only the brake pads at a garage? And thank you so much for replying, I appreciate it!!

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasminaktar8663 £60-100 depending upon the car and pads. Did you check the pad thickness?

    • @jasminaktar8663
      @jasminaktar8663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CycloneCyd it’s a corsa 07 plate and nope I haven’t.

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasminaktar8663 Unless it's one of the 'sporty' versions, chances are it's not discs but drums at the rear. The noise could be as simple as dust that needs cleaning out, or could need new shoes.
      Take a look at videos 2 & 4 in my brakes play list to see drums.
      Unless you've got all the tools, take it to a garage, drums can be tricky

  • @eeyyaakk6801
    @eeyyaakk6801 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    one question - is it normal to not be able to see the brake pad? Is it really fully covered by the backing plate?

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the backing plate (steel) is usually slightly larger that the friction material to support it all around. You can usually see the friction material from the top, but this may mean taking off the wheel

  • @eeyyaakk6801
    @eeyyaakk6801 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi friend, I believe both my front and rear brakes are disc brakes, however it seems the front ones look different than the rear. The front ones look like they have more hardware, or maybe the hardware is bigger, or different. Any ideas?

    • @CycloneCyd
      @CycloneCyd  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, thats normal. Front brakes are usually larger than rears. Often fronts are vented but not rears. Depends somewhat on the car. Have a look at the Pagid brakebook for details.

    • @legndar1
      @legndar1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁹⁹

    • @legndar1
      @legndar1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      9⁹

  • @inthecrosshairs4480
    @inthecrosshairs4480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brake indicators are the best way to tell if you need brake pads. They squeal. "Change me now!"

  • @BruceGinkel
    @BruceGinkel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought you didn't change them until they started making horrendous noise, leaking fluid everywhere, and starting on fire. Boy, was I wrong.