NICHOLLS VS MULLINS AND IS DE BROMHEAD UNDERRATED? TOP 5 TRAINERS RANKED! | INSIDE TRACK: THE DEBATE

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  • Kate Tracey, Sir AP McCoy, Barry Geraghty and Nick Luck rank the Top 5 modern-day trainers on the latest episode of Inside Track: The Debate.
    1:28 Top 5s revealed
    1:58 Is Paul Nicholls ahead of Willie Mullins
    4:42 Is Henry de Bromhead underrated?
    9:58 What's it like to ride for Paul Nicholls?
    14:56 Is Barry the reason for Nicky Henderson's success?!
    20:15 What makes a great trainer?
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  • @WilliamHillRacing
    @WilliamHillRacing  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Who are your Top 5 modern-day trainers? Let us know in the comments!

    • @michaelkerr1496
      @michaelkerr1496 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Elliott is better than Henry and JJ put together ffs

  • @samcaney7200
    @samcaney7200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    No Gordon Elliot here is wild

  • @chrismiller6317
    @chrismiller6317 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Where is Elliott in this list,ridiculous him not on the list but JJ is

    • @richardsmyth9151
      @richardsmyth9151 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Elliott is sitting on a dead horse presumably 😂😂

    • @TheBLAZE6-r6r
      @TheBLAZE6-r6r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s a job trainer only

  • @WillHickman-hk4fj
    @WillHickman-hk4fj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Gordon Elliott did get his licence back in the end, didn't he?

    • @declanrichardson1761
      @declanrichardson1761 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joke O'Neil in their and debromhead over elliot

    • @stevelee4952
      @stevelee4952 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly yes

  • @markluxon5044
    @markluxon5044 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why I like Nicholls is his horses keep coming back year after year. Think that shows how he looks after them

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Markluxon does not mullens bring horses year after year too

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good show to be fair

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pipe did change the game by introducing interval training.nichols os a good trainer but struggling a bit this year

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The women does not have a clue

  • @TheChrishoughton
    @TheChrishoughton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very insightful.

  • @patrickclerkin-kz1cm
    @patrickclerkin-kz1cm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good little show!

  • @robertcairney2955
    @robertcairney2955 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nicky has to be the man ,also you know if your horse isn’t 100% Nicky will look after it.

  • @WillHickman-hk4fj
    @WillHickman-hk4fj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nicky is obviously good at getting a class horse 100% fit and ready for the big day. 9 Champion Hurdles and 6 Champion Chases tell you that. But outside of Cheltenham he probably doesn't have them as spot on. Perhaps he is a bit slow to step horses up in trip? Shishkin could have been a Gold Cup winner two years ago had he been trained by Nicholls.
    Nicholls is the best in terms of keeping a horse at the top throughout the season and its career. He's won the King George so many times because he comes back with the same horse and wins it the following season. He's also won the Tingle Creek 12 times and the Champion Chase 6 times, so it's not just three milers he's training well. But does he just not buy the Champion Hurdle type or does he not get enough speed into them?
    Willie has adapted his game the most out of any trainer. He worked out what it took to win a Champion Hurdle, then he wanted to win a Gold Cup, then he wanted to win a Champion Chase. For anyone that thinks Willie is streets ahead, remember he has had less Gold Cup winners than Nicholls, less Champion Hurdle winners than Nicky and less Champion Chase winners than either of them.
    Henry has had a few good seasons lately but it takes a lot longer to get established as one of the best. The Tizzards similarly had a great few seasons with Cue Card, Thistlecrack and Native River all coming along in quick succession.
    I can see why Gordon Elliott wasn't included. He has trained one Gold Cup winner and three Grand National winners, but not got close to winning a Champion Hurdle or a Champion Chase.

  • @dermotfox1761
    @dermotfox1761 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    im guessing a bit devilment going on here as to why no Elliott on list.
    He started himself with very little support training a couple of horses. Nicholls brilliant trainer got major financial support from Barbers. Elliott to not make the list having trained 3 national winners, before end of decade will be 2nd with cheltenham winners, will surpass nicholls 2-3 yrs. All top trainers willie, henry, paul, nicky, gordon in no particular order.

  • @grudeman
    @grudeman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ill say it straight jj o Neil is a terrible trainer, hes had the best facilities in the world and literally given every McManus horse under the sun and he done absolutely nothing. Mullins Nichols Henderson and Elliot are by far the best NH trainers, either one of them could do wonders with horses who aren't amazingly talented. I love the way Henderson takes really good ones and puts them through the program he always has the best interests of the horse in mind and they just ooze class, so Henderson is my favourite of the bunch.

  • @danpalmer7676
    @danpalmer7676 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obviously you need the owners who are prepared to spend the dough.
    Barry Geraghty made a good point that Willie Mullins would have top 2m hurdlers to 3m chasers.
    I think N.Henderson likes speedy hurdlers and P.Nicholls likes his big staying chasers.

  • @johnsnow6220
    @johnsnow6220 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's a proper chat, nice and loose...
    Like c4 back in the day

    • @declanshanks3003
      @declanshanks3003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes comedy gold as c4 was

  • @defcon92
    @defcon92 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is brilliant

  • @nc3music920
    @nc3music920 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mullins has clearly surpassed Nicholls. He dominates horse racing completely

  • @jamesbarbour7657
    @jamesbarbour7657 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jonjo?? FFS!
    Rank who is the fastest ever runner. Carl Lewis, Christie, Bolt, Bailey or Barry from Eastenders.
    Not having Elliott in the discussion is a disgraceful to be honest.

    • @niall3973
      @niall3973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣

  • @peterhodge570
    @peterhodge570 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with nick

  • @gavinblack450
    @gavinblack450 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nicholls can be a bit pompous but I admire way he attacks the program when he has a good one , hard to say Willie isn’t number 1, guys a joke how good he is at placing and training them.

  • @danmurphy5819
    @danmurphy5819 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a stupid list why would you have jonjo o neill and not gordon elliot

  • @jamesmorton4443
    @jamesmorton4443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jonjo no chance, come on.

  • @mikebarry2461
    @mikebarry2461 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is John Joe doing on this list

  • @michaelmcginley7930
    @michaelmcginley7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did luck not pick martin pipe then

  • @user-bw8vj2km5r
    @user-bw8vj2km5r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nicholls couldn’t get a win out of Stormy Ireland and and when Willie got her back he won a grade 1!!! Paul isn’t in the same planet as Willie….

  • @Davesaquatics
    @Davesaquatics 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Gordon streets ahead of Jonjo and can be argued ahead of any English trainer at the moment. Joke of a list

    • @michaelmulhall5007
      @michaelmulhall5007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you see the jockey list Johnson ahead Walsh 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @johnwhite7306
    @johnwhite7306 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Henderson's chasers are always schooled to jump a fence.

  • @markspeirs8779
    @markspeirs8779 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only reason Jonjo was on the list was to appease AP.....funnily enough AP did more for Gordon Elliotts street cred by constantly bigging him up, Mullins gets the lions share of cracking horses so he is obviously going to stick out.....years ago Paul Nicholls had the benefit of a having superstars in his yard, unfortunately he hasn't had too many top class horses in the last 10yrs.....Silvinaco & Clans were good animals and won their fair share of grade ones but they were a class below the likes of Kauto, Denman, Big Bucks & Masterminded

  • @anthonymccarthy4935
    @anthonymccarthy4935 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Willie nicky Nicholls debromhead olly Murphy 😅

  • @user-bw8vj2km5r
    @user-bw8vj2km5r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Willie, Nicky, Henry, Paul, Gordon Elliot….. JJ your arse

  • @dennisnorton6914
    @dennisnorton6914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicholls is frightened to death to run them

  • @TomLeach-dd8cl
    @TomLeach-dd8cl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jonjo has been pants for nearly a decade . Especially with the horses he gets

  • @michaelmulhall5007
    @michaelmulhall5007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It’s clear now nick luck hates Willie Mullins there isn’t a hope in hell anyone is ahead of Willie on this list. Every week on his show on Sunday he complains about Willie it’s ridiculous

    • @timcomley5948
      @timcomley5948 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does he heck

  • @thecritic81
    @thecritic81 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The reason Niick Luck chose Nicholls is because Nicholls is English

    • @markluxon5044
      @markluxon5044 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yet he puts mullins above Henderson. How Elliott ain't on the list but jonjo is is beyond me

  • @martinafitzgerald6995
    @martinafitzgerald6995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elliott??? I do like Nicky Henderson but, it is one top trainers, not personalities.

  • @madforit2
    @madforit2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jonjo 😅😅. No chance. Gordon not in id ridiculous

  • @alanpage3973
    @alanpage3973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oniel couldn't train my dog

    • @declanshanks3003
      @declanshanks3003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Couldn't train grass to grow

  • @TomLeach-dd8cl
    @TomLeach-dd8cl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nowadays Henderson doesn't get the praise he deserves its all mullins mullins mullins .
    Nicky Henderson is the greatest jumps trainer of the last 30 years

  • @declanshanks3003
    @declanshanks3003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why on earth is Elliott not included an absolute shit show jj O'Neill gey a grip ffs

  • @paulbest2203
    @paulbest2203 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t like Nicholls methods

  • @kevinrendell203
    @kevinrendell203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why has kate tracey named her top 5???!!!! bit out of your league love!!

    • @timcomley5948
      @timcomley5948 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simpleton

    • @timcomley5948
      @timcomley5948 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You not her

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@timcomley5948 she does not have the knowlege.better woman presenters than her with more knowledge.nina cabury or katie walsh or jane magnun

  • @MyCharlesgreen
    @MyCharlesgreen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is Gordon...bizarre omission.

  • @user-bw8vj2km5r
    @user-bw8vj2km5r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Willie, Nicky, Henry, Paul, Gordon Elliot….. JJ your arse

  • @user-bw8vj2km5r
    @user-bw8vj2km5r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Willie, Nicky, Henry, Paul, Gordon Elliot….. JJ your arse