Man, when people saw the title they going to think "He's going to dodge, shoot and keep distance forever" but nope. How about we get close and personal forever?
Haha I think the perfect parries make them take way more damage you can see when he’s flashing so it’s way faster than kiting. I changed my mind on this max difficulty possibly having a decent speedrun from learning this fight. Seemed like a 5 minute minimum to now 90 seconds
The arena is completely busted. Theres invisible barriers everywhere making dodging a gambling game and unnecessarily frustrating when on Angel of Death difficulty
Yeah dodging anything past his initial attack is rough. The 3 bull charges you have to wait until the last possible second to get perfect dodge to even avoid it let alone get the execution shot. The electric servers or whatever are definitely an unnecessary hindrance.
@FBIMichaelScarn i went in with a power hammer cause i had no idea the carnifex fight would be like that, and it was rough, spent a good 2 hours fighting it until i finally managed to get by. Those invisible barriers seriously screwed me over, but thankfully i found a good timing eventually with using the powerhammers change attack that chunked the carnifex's health
Lol having just replayed it all on a speedrun, this is probably the nastiest boss enemy. They just buffed him too it looks like from the patch notes, felt even more aggressive so good luck!
why didn't it do the quick swipe? When I tried to melee him, he would do the quick swipe spontaneously which throw me off so much. I even try to stand in front of him as much as possible but I think he would still does the quick swipe if the bots attack him from behind?
If you stand directly behind him he does the quick swipe which is very hard to react to. I think you are right in that if the bots are behind him he may do that fast 180. Lost a lot of attempts to that attack. They actually buffed him a bit last week where he does faster swipes for the last 50% of health and taunts less even from front and side.
That’s partially why I can’t replicate this because if the AI allies don’t behave the carnifex will do the quick swipe which makes it so frustrating because it’s unpredictable and unreactable
They definitely juiced him on the 2nd half of the fight, he’s more aggressive now and taunts less after the last patch, only can get 1 attack in between swipes after 50% health and difficult to read. Carnifex has been nasty during speedrun attempts but still really fun, hope you got through it!
@FBIMichaelScarn Beat him. The little twerp are most aggravating, especially during the next Carnidex fight. I'm on the last boss, work is big villain stopping me there.
Holy shit thanks a lot ! Fighting this POS in melee is a billion times easier than trying to perfect-dodge its bugged hitboxes lmao Gang on him on melee + block the easily telegraphed hits. Bonus: don't stand in front of it in melee, it will shoot a long singular salvo of needles. HOWEVER, this also means you can bait out this attack and it will be stuck in place for at least 5s Once I got it down to the last health segment, I retreated when it was in one such animation and stuck 2 Krak grenades to it. It wasn't enough and I ended up having to dodge 3 charges in a row (+ Melta) to finish it off. So yeah, sticky to melee is my go to advice for now lol
Awesome congrats! Good idea using the Krak grenades. They are awesome in this and have some crazy magentism, been using them for the floating/caster enemy types since they one shot them down to execute state on Angel of Death even instead of 100+ rounds. Avoiding those charges under pressure is really impressive too, that perfect dodge cancel is super late!
@@FBIMichaelScarn yeah, I've had to restart some missions just to have some Krak nades for the floating "psycher" tyranids. You don't get a "trajectory indicator", only a landing spot so it's a bit tricky to stick it to'em but, as you said, the magnetism is pretty generous. For my first encounter with this Carnifex, I had 1 left but the ammo boxes by the door where the Carnifex comes in (the boxes look like decoration and you have to hit/roll into them to break) drop another 2 Krak nades
Yeah it's pretty rough, much worse if you don't stay close. I did the updated post patch version here so hope that can help a bit th-cam.com/video/i2NaGD1aiw0/w-d-xo.html Good luck!
You get I-frames from catching the telegraphed blue attack from the small enemies like at 00:42. It’s actually the only way not to get hit in a situation like that with multiple attacks since if you dodge that you can’t parry in time for Carnifex actual attack and can buy you some time in a messy situation
Every time I get him low, I get stuck on those invisible walls and then get either stun locked, or as I dodge it and carnifex is clearly hitting the ground away from me, I still get hit and die. Dying to Malenia or Isshin was frustrating because of my lack of skill. Dying to carnifex every single fucking time because I step or dodge into an invisible wall and get fucked there is frustrating since I can't change the invisible walls in that room. P. S. Angel of Death for those wondering. Edit: Killed him. Learned the timing, the pattern, everything. Still got stuck on those walls or dodged into them. Brain aneurysm.
GGs on finishing him. Some free easy damage is to save 2 krak grenades from before encounter and then pick up the other 2 mid fight to him past half health. They need to make the arena clear of so many little obstacles, gets nasty with the adds as well. It’s surprising this is the one boss they actually buffed on the last 50% health a week ago
@FBIMichaelScarn free damage? My last 10 tries, I was hyperfocused melee. Melta? Nades? Don't know those, never heard of em. Thanks for the advice, tho.
LOL dude I did the same with melee tunnel vision here, so preoccupied with parrying and melee and forgot about the grenades. Made it much easier on the speedrun sprinkling in the krak grenades and saving melta for the adds. The skills you got from this will make the rest of the game far easier IMO, good luck!
Wtf lad.... I streamed yesterday for 4 hours the last I think hour was me fighting this abomination and dying ... I tried the heavy bolter ... The flamer the melta and everytime I got him to 3/4 he fucked me .. but everytime I got.near the melee with my power sword he swing and I did think I could parry him , not to mention all times he would charge up a red attack and still chunk half my health when he hit no where near .... I was tired at the point but I just didn't think you be able to parry the beast .. OMFG I'm going live again soon and starting at the entrance to that lair I imagine. So I'm trying my best to do how you just did.... I am on angel of death diff too
Yeah this took a good couple hours to get. His opening red leap attack you can perfect dodge but need to go to the side since his follow up will hit you even if using the special reticle execution. It seems he takes way more damage after perfect parry when flashing, you just have to be EARLY to get that parry. Half health the adds come in but if you stay close and mix in more shooting they don’t bother you as much. If directly behind him he does an almost unreactable 180 attack you have to watch for. Good luck, you should be able to get through it today!!
If you stay close it usually doesn’t do the triple charges. They have made him more aggressive in the last half of the fight after last weeks patch where you need to parry after almost every melee hit instead of getting 2 in early here. It remains a much easier fight up close
Yeah if he leaps you almost have to dodge that too and still get to his back otherwise it hits in a huge cone covering basically everywhere from his side to front. Unless you perfect dodge it forward and to the side you can’t even use execution shot safely. They made him more aggressive last 50% in the most recent patch which is where the difference is
i dont get it i have spent 4 days trynna solo .. ive done everything cleared out the room ive waited to save specials for the end . i dodge i still get hit .. i react when hes about to attack i still get hit and lose all my health... like what in the actually hell. after patch its impossible to solo it was easy on release...
Yeah definitely rougher post patch, even on the Angel of death speedrun I had I think he downed me. Considering doing a proper run of this again on the current patch since Carnifex is arguably the hardest boss in the game now
Yeah framerate dips quite a bit on my PC as well, especially if using Melta. Definitely scavenge for the krak grenades before the fight and hold them until last 50% of health for a burst. The regular grenades don’t seem to do much damage at all.
Dont you think is kind of annoying that a simple thing that should be corrected by developing could be so easily fixed? Geez ive veen here for an hour and im already tired
I’m glad you got it!! Yeah this fight is still extremely messy at range but feels good up close. The amount of extra damage you and your teammates do when they are glowing after a perfect parry is HUGE. Seems like a mechanic they should have advertised more.
Man, when people saw the title they going to think "He's going to dodge, shoot and keep distance forever" but nope. How about we get close and personal forever?
Haha I think the perfect parries make them take way more damage you can see when he’s flashing so it’s way faster than kiting. I changed my mind on this max difficulty possibly having a decent speedrun from learning this fight. Seemed like a 5 minute minimum to now 90 seconds
The arena is completely busted. Theres invisible barriers everywhere making dodging a gambling game and unnecessarily frustrating when on Angel of Death difficulty
Yeah dodging anything past his initial attack is rough. The 3 bull charges you have to wait until the last possible second to get perfect dodge to even avoid it let alone get the execution shot. The electric servers or whatever are definitely an unnecessary hindrance.
@FBIMichaelScarn i went in with a power hammer cause i had no idea the carnifex fight would be like that, and it was rough, spent a good 2 hours fighting it until i finally managed to get by. Those invisible barriers seriously screwed me over, but thankfully i found a good timing eventually with using the powerhammers change attack that chunked the carnifex's health
Nice dude! I’m on attempt 40 something I think 😅
Lol having just replayed it all on a speedrun, this is probably the nastiest boss enemy. They just buffed him too it looks like from the patch notes, felt even more aggressive so good luck!
Definitely buffed. By far hardest boss in game @FBIMichaelScarn
why didn't it do the quick swipe? When I tried to melee him, he would do the quick swipe spontaneously which throw me off so much. I even try to stand in front of him as much as possible but I think he would still does the quick swipe if the bots attack him from behind?
If you stand directly behind him he does the quick swipe which is very hard to react to. I think you are right in that if the bots are behind him he may do that fast 180. Lost a lot of attempts to that attack. They actually buffed him a bit last week where he does faster swipes for the last 50% of health and taunts less even from front and side.
That’s partially why I can’t replicate this because if the AI allies don’t behave the carnifex will do the quick swipe which makes it so frustrating because it’s unpredictable and unreactable
Parry god.
Haha thanks trying to get there!
@@FBIMichaelScarn Just beat the boss last night.
This boss took me 30 minutes to beat solo on AOD.
The AI squad is actually worse than me. 🤣
Nicely Done!!!
Thank you!
Finally did it. Thanks
Awesome, GGs!!
SICK!!!
Thanks!!!
The carnifex is still clapping my cheeks something fierce. But being in melee is so much easier
They definitely juiced him on the 2nd half of the fight, he’s more aggressive now and taunts less after the last patch, only can get 1 attack in between swipes after 50% health and difficult to read. Carnifex has been nasty during speedrun attempts but still really fun, hope you got through it!
@FBIMichaelScarn Beat him. The little twerp are most aggravating, especially during the next Carnidex fight. I'm on the last boss, work is big villain stopping me there.
Holy shit thanks a lot ! Fighting this POS in melee is a billion times easier than trying to perfect-dodge its bugged hitboxes lmao
Gang on him on melee + block the easily telegraphed hits. Bonus: don't stand in front of it in melee, it will shoot a long singular salvo of needles. HOWEVER, this also means you can bait out this attack and it will be stuck in place for at least 5s
Once I got it down to the last health segment, I retreated when it was in one such animation and stuck 2 Krak grenades to it. It wasn't enough and I ended up having to dodge 3 charges in a row (+ Melta) to finish it off. So yeah, sticky to melee is my go to advice for now lol
Awesome congrats! Good idea using the Krak grenades. They are awesome in this and have some crazy magentism, been using them for the floating/caster enemy types since they one shot them down to execute state on Angel of Death even instead of 100+ rounds. Avoiding those charges under pressure is really impressive too, that perfect dodge cancel is super late!
@@FBIMichaelScarn yeah, I've had to restart some missions just to have some Krak nades for the floating "psycher" tyranids. You don't get a "trajectory indicator", only a landing spot so it's a bit tricky to stick it to'em but, as you said, the magnetism is pretty generous.
For my first encounter with this Carnifex, I had 1 left but the ammo boxes by the door where the Carnifex comes in (the boxes look like decoration and you have to hit/roll into them to break) drop another 2 Krak nades
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Died like 6 times watched this first try thank you.
Awesome congrats! I’m happy it could help a bit since it seems backwards to get in his face but it does limit his nastier attacks
@@FBIMichaelScarn completely the range attacks and his charge was just putting me in the dirt
This boss is completely busted. The area, the hit boxes, everything.
Yeah it's pretty rough, much worse if you don't stay close. I did the updated post patch version here so hope that can help a bit th-cam.com/video/i2NaGD1aiw0/w-d-xo.html Good luck!
Please explain to me how you don’t get hit when it swings its spike arm right through you?
You get I-frames from catching the telegraphed blue attack from the small enemies like at 00:42. It’s actually the only way not to get hit in a situation like that with multiple attacks since if you dodge that you can’t parry in time for Carnifex actual attack and can buy you some time in a messy situation
Every time I get him low, I get stuck on those invisible walls and then get either stun locked, or as I dodge it and carnifex is clearly hitting the ground away from me, I still get hit and die. Dying to Malenia or Isshin was frustrating because of my lack of skill. Dying to carnifex every single fucking time because I step or dodge into an invisible wall and get fucked there is frustrating since I can't change the invisible walls in that room.
P. S. Angel of Death for those wondering.
Edit: Killed him. Learned the timing, the pattern, everything. Still got stuck on those walls or dodged into them. Brain aneurysm.
The boss is completely broken
GGs on finishing him. Some free easy damage is to save 2 krak grenades from before encounter and then pick up the other 2 mid fight to him past half health. They need to make the arena clear of so many little obstacles, gets nasty with the adds as well. It’s surprising this is the one boss they actually buffed on the last 50% health a week ago
@FBIMichaelScarn free damage? My last 10 tries, I was hyperfocused melee. Melta? Nades? Don't know those, never heard of em. Thanks for the advice, tho.
LOL dude I did the same with melee tunnel vision here, so preoccupied with parrying and melee and forgot about the grenades. Made it much easier on the speedrun sprinkling in the krak grenades and saving melta for the adds. The skills you got from this will make the rest of the game far easier IMO, good luck!
@FBIMichaelScarn Thanks man
Wtf lad.... I streamed yesterday for 4 hours the last I think hour was me fighting this abomination and dying ... I tried the heavy bolter ... The flamer the melta and everytime I got him to 3/4 he fucked me .. but everytime I got.near the melee with my power sword he swing and I did think I could parry him , not to mention all times he would charge up a red attack and still chunk half my health when he hit no where near .... I was tired at the point but I just didn't think you be able to parry the beast
.. OMFG I'm going live again soon and starting at the entrance to that lair I imagine. So I'm trying my best to do how you just did.... I am on angel of death diff too
Yeah this took a good couple hours to get. His opening red leap attack you can perfect dodge but need to go to the side since his follow up will hit you even if using the special reticle execution. It seems he takes way more damage after perfect parry when flashing, you just have to be EARLY to get that parry. Half health the adds come in but if you stay close and mix in more shooting they don’t bother you as much. If directly behind him he does an almost unreactable 180 attack you have to watch for. Good luck, you should be able to get through it today!!
@@FBIMichaelScarn That is - unless you hit the invisible walls...
why isnt it doing the unblockable attacks
If you stay close it usually doesn’t do the triple charges. They have made him more aggressive in the last half of the fight after last weeks patch where you need to parry after almost every melee hit instead of getting 2 in early here. It remains a much easier fight up close
this is a different game to what I'm playing I get stuck in his heavy attack loop which I dodge but still take damage anyway absolute bs
Yeah if he leaps you almost have to dodge that too and still get to his back otherwise it hits in a huge cone covering basically everywhere from his side to front. Unless you perfect dodge it forward and to the side you can’t even use execution shot safely. They made him more aggressive last 50% in the most recent patch which is where the difference is
i dont get it i have spent 4 days trynna solo .. ive done everything cleared out the room ive waited to save specials for the end . i dodge i still get hit .. i react when hes about to attack i still get hit and lose all my health... like what in the actually hell. after patch its impossible to solo it was easy on release...
Yeah definitely rougher post patch, even on the Angel of death speedrun I had I think he downed me. Considering doing a proper run of this again on the current patch since Carnifex is arguably the hardest boss in the game now
LFG 💯
This part sucks in ps5, is like 20 fps so you cant act fast and they only give you 1 medkit
Yeah framerate dips quite a bit on my PC as well, especially if using Melta. Definitely scavenge for the krak grenades before the fight and hold them until last 50% of health for a burst. The regular grenades don’t seem to do much damage at all.
This part on xbox runs horrible
Yeah game still needs performance patch all around. Would get into 30s on PC if I restarted encounter a few times even though it’s 60 first shot.
This isn’t angel of death
01:31 I’ve only played and streamed on Angel of Death
Dont you think is kind of annoying that a simple thing that should be corrected by developing could be so easily fixed? Geez ive veen here for an hour and im already tired
Okay, I got it lol carnifex down, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MELEE IS THE KEY FIR THIS MF!
I’m glad you got it!! Yeah this fight is still extremely messy at range but feels good up close. The amount of extra damage you and your teammates do when they are glowing after a perfect parry is HUGE. Seems like a mechanic they should have advertised more.
WTF is this CHEARER
Lol if that’s “cheater”no, even have an updated video of this fight post patch after they buffed him
@@FBIMichaelScarn I don't care. the mob was swinging and not hitting you, MULTIPLE times.