BMW M57 EGR VALVE DELETE & INTAKE PORTS CLEAN
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My gosh! One of the few people I see using the wrench the correct way. You break then you motorize. Great technique. You should've mentioned that in your video. That way, you save battery and preserve the motor.
Great video as always! Who else saw the massive spider at 1:53 on the far right hand side of the engine bay 😳😳
Like i said before, on my early '05 530d i deleted everything except the catalic converter. It seems it was a car with the early egr/swirlflaps fitted but it was not registered as being a euro-4 type of car. I pay taxes for it being a filty euro-3 diesel so i'm legally allowed to delete al egr related stuff without getting in trouble with the law.
Main benefits for me are 1. the oil has a much longer life because it doesn't age as fast. 2. glowplugs last much longer 3. the car is way more reliable and needs less maintenance.
I can not enter environmental zones over here in Holland, but i'm fine with that. Only under full load it smokes a bit, and yes driving ANY car is bad for the environment.
In the end it all boils down to 1 thing: Money ;)
And the health of our children, can’t put a price on that.
I did this job recently. Getting the glow plug out for cylinder number 6 is a pain because the housing for the water sensor stopped me from getting my deep socket on. I had to grind it down then was ok to go. Keep up the content George 👍
o my god that explosion really killed me xDD i was stressing out when you put the first glow plug in aswell hahaha !!good job
Great video very detailed info. I was just wondering if deleting the egr but keeping the dpf in place would cause ant problems of course getting the egr programmed out the ecu thank you
More of this sort of stuff 👍
I suspect the tight ones were even tighter so the previous mechanic did not want a headache and though a few new ones would help - I see it alot…. Also these engine can catch fire or when the manifold get to hot the swirl flaps can fall into the engine 😮😮
Cool vid George 👌
EGR Destroyed my MB, I wish I’ve seen this video before. Now I know…thanks for video
Cracking video and good skills!
Thanks 👍
Great video - torque settings should be as follows though:
glow plugs - 15Nm
inlet manifold bolts 10Nm
inlet manifold nuts 15Nm
always enjoy your content George, keep it up
Nice, nice, just wanted to ask if you from experience have had the injectors from an n47 come off easily because mines chuffing and needing new seals but thought maybe i could pry them out instead and save some money not buying the pulling kit
That nuke drop cut got me hard boi! Halarious 😂
It’s a funny one on cars that aren’t mapped they are designed to run with the egr there is a knock on effect
Hey great video, can you please give more info on that coolant pipe, I have the same vehicle and am about to do everything in your video. Thank you
EGR it used to prevent over boost from the turbo and also serves to reduce air pollution.
Egr was invented only for a pollution prevention. A cancer for the engine and manifolds
Wastegate prevents overboost, not EGR.
It does reduce NOx pollution though.
Cleaning / replacement is much better than deleting it.
My 325d was running like a old donkey.
I put Red X in the whole bottle in half a tank of diesel and within 30 min it cleared the lot.
My blocked EGR and blocked DPF run it with Red X in for a month took the thing to bits and it was clear.
It shocked me I'm a mechanic and as it was my own motor kept putting it on the back burner as we do.
But honestly if you read this give it a go.
Every motor I get in now as I do sell a few I put Red x in and honestly it's sorted 99% of the running problems out.
Hi what’s the full name of the RedX you put in please as there’s different types? Thanking you in anticipation of your reply 😀👍
@@paulmuff9883 it's the stuff tesco do £4 a bottle. It's the black one not red liquid as red is for petrol engines
On a full tank put the whole bottle in.
You'll notice the difference within a hour
stuff tesco? is there something like this in usa
Great content, very nice job, like the lovely methodical/clean work 👍
Thanks!
Nice video . What’s the difference of blocking egr and deleting I have a bmw x5 m57 e53 2004 and I am planning doing one of them ?
Had the exact same point failure on EGR coolant thermostat on my E70, looks like its common failure at this point
Very strange!
i have personally replaced a cracked egr cooler thermostate on 2 different m57 cars so ye its a thing they always crack it on this exact end and leak, its a cheap one tho but annoying.
Hey man thank u so much for this amazing content. I did all things bymyself because of u. Now I have a stupid question : what will happen to the pipe that comes from the egr solenoid to the egr. What should I do with that part?
My egr thermostat broke the same way, unbelivable. I have 170000 km. E91 330xd 2007.
Hi George. I have a N57 35d. I also removed the intake and really well cleaned the inside and there is little to no carbon now and flaps are very free. I still get the Kinematic worn or lever broken and runner control stuck open bank 1A (P2004). Any ideas? A reply would be much appreciated
If you have a link for the egr kit that would be brilliant
You will get a very small power boost (Dyno proven) & improved throttle response by deleting/blanking the EGR.
I tried to maintain and clean the one on my Honda Civic regularly but it still ended up causing a problem at about 100k miles/10 yrs old.
Caused a very slight flat spot & hesitation in the revs where it was presumably sticking open or closed momentarily, as soon as it was deleted from the ECU and blanked off the problem was gone and 20k miles later has never returned, left it would have only got worse.
Exactly!
Your mic sounds great. What sort is it?
The engine in my 08 X5 has the air filter in a big casing on top of the engine, I can't see the same ducting positions on this one? Assuming there's different M57 engines?
just a quick one if i can .... my top hose on the inntercoole r keeps blowing off any ideas cheers sam
i laughed too hard at the edit at 17:40 hahahaha
Just a question, glow plug model is it gse108 or gse102?
Hi George is this the car you had troubles few days ago?
i think something... egr valve is vacuum opened,,,if you just take vaccum hose from it,and close it with some bolt or so,egr will be allways closed, and no dirty gases can go to intake. what do you think ?
Or just remove the EGR valve and cooler completely and create much more space. You'll also thank yourself when it comes to doing future work too!
Could my EGR fail and dump coolant in crankcase?
for m57 you do not need to delete egr. It will never gets cloged up, your car will get up to working temp a lot faster, what extend your engine life. Swirlflaps delete is a good idea.
it does howevver rob your car of boost by baffeling / damping the exhaust gasses a bit :P its never good for spoolup. and it puts some more pressure on your cooling system. witch is undesirable when driving when your engine is already hot.
What does swop it out mean ???
Great vid, good on ya. When you took the glow plug module off there was a long wire hanging off, did you fit a new wire? If you did do you have a part number please.
No, just transfer the wire over it’s just the positive cable👍🏻
@@GeorgeAusters have you ever come across the module to glow plug cable failure ? Or are they pretty indestructible?
The end of the EGR thermostat broke off exactly the same at as yours!!! 330d 2005. it’s very strange, nobody touched it!!!!
Must be a common problem!
If you take the intake manifold off and soak it in a tub of caustic soda overnight it will be like new in the morning I did it to my 330d and it also cleans swirl flaps so no need to remove either 😎
M57 swirl flaps break that’s why they get removed. Could risk a new engine or spend £10 to delete them.
@@piovo5222 not all of them the later models have a better design my car has done 155.000 miles with no issues if you remove them you lose bottom end torque but obviously it is safer to remove them if you don't want to be in any doubt
@@piovo5222 the reason they break is carbon build up seizing the rod. Metal fatigue breaks it then
I would be careful of cleaning the intake manifold with strong stuff as i have seen them crack after doing that.
So just be careful of what you clean it with.
@@Alpejohn you will obviously have to change all the rubber gaskets for the swirl flaps but it's not going to damage any of the metal or hard plastic components in 24 hours
I had egr written out of my car brain.A lot less problems now.
my thermostat has exaclty the same crack on the same place and I am replacing it on monday
Yeah it’s a common problem!
Hey man, great vid! I just had the P0401 code for the X5, I wonder if your car shows the same code before you decided to change them? TIA!
I did all this work just for preventative maintenance
Hi George can you please make a video about snapped glow plug removal on bmw?
I need to snap one first! haha
@@GeorgeAusters If you wish to make a video of a snapped glow plug being removed I would show you how or a seized injector.
What's the cost in parts there in UK please?
Is it necessary to swap the glow plug module when changing the glow plugs? Is it common to fail?
Always best to!
Do these modifications have any impact on the MOT exhaust analytics tests?. Will it fail is what i`m asking?.
Nope, I passed MOT with no cat nor egr
As a matter of interest I have just had the EGR valve on my 10 year old 640d replaced by BMW under a manufacturers recall this is the F13 model apparently this could lead to a fire in extreme cases according to BMW. Check the BMW website to see if your car is in amongst those needing this recall I was contacted by letter from BMW for this service which was at no cost to myself.
Yeah that's for the N57 and some N47s
Think it is the cooler that they replace, not the EGR itself
I’ve got a recall on my bmw f31 2014 they state it willl catch fire but cannot fix for 2 months 😢
No I don’t, I clean it and on my 173k mile Laguna 3 it still helps keep exhaust emissions down. That and a new DPF at 160k miles.
That metallic sound just sounds like mines been like that for months
Yeah think it’s the alternator
The DPF is highly dependent on everything above it working properly. A dirty inlet and/or clogged EGR will take out the DOF. Losing the EGR means more regular runs to clean the DPF. But to be fair, that just shows the crap you have not been throwing into people’s faces.
I'm in process of deleting my 23 peterbilt with cummins. I took the intake manifold off and it was covered with soot on the inside, the truck only had 20 thousand miles at the time, that is a lot of micro abrasive material going through an engine, so screw epa and all emissions bullcrap she's getting deleted!
Wise choice!
Hi George, what would happen if brake cleaner would go in through these engine holes? Happened to me but I just didn't know this trick you just showed us. Should I be concerned? What can I do if is harmfull? Oil change? Much appreciated.
I wouldn’t worry if it’s only a tiny amount but if it’s a lot then it could hydrolock the engine and that’s why I blew it out by cranking the engine
@@GeorgeAusters I think it was just a bit that went in through the glow plug hole. Actually it was one of those multi sprays that is used to losen the screws, I am not sure it fell much inside, started the engine after job was done and I didn't notice anything unusual. Much apreciated your response and hopelfully this can also answer to those in doubt.
Why not just replace the swirl flaps with new ones and remove the EGR only?
Solution to all the emissions bs equipment on cars is to delete all of them and code them out and run 5% methanol by volume to diesel will result in a clean burn no soot and reduced Nox emissions
Vous serez les bougie à combien nm? Et les vise du collecteur?en nm
I just unplugged my egr No lights on the dash at all BMW E92 😅
Just a heads up (i know this is a year later, so it might be too late). If you disable the EGR it doesn't always throw a code on the dash, BUT it will disable active DPF regeneration.
I found out the hard way after my turbo stopped working. The DPF was completely blocked and I had to replace it, which is many thousands of dollars just for the part.
I am working on a Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet diesel. It’s a really great engine 16 valves and very strongly built without excessive weight. However the EGR has seriously clogged the inlet manifold with sticky soot. It’s going to get deleted with remap.
Yep I had the same engine in a Vauxhall and the intake was clogged to death
Swirl flaps are a ticking time bomb and would implore anyone with a BMW to have them removed.
What places can do Egr mapping out in Essex ? Can i do it on my Autel mk808s ?
So can it?
Do you get fault code after removing the EGR ? 😬Thanks
Yes you will
Hi mate, don't know if you've covered this but after EGR delete kit installed getting increased emissions warning. BMW e60 m57. Has had software delete, dpf sorted and remap around 5 years ago and never had a problem. Any help would be appreciated pal 😊
I had the same problem as you, the fault came up after the EGR vacuum solenoid failed. The diaphragm had torn, so the solenoid was activating and deactivating all the time as the vacuum pressure fluctuated.
Even though the vacuum outlet to the EGR was blocked with a screw it threw the emissions code which meant that the active regen for the DPF was disabled- which ruined my DPF.
This leads me to think that the ECU will recognise an EGR fault via two separate signals- 1. The EGR valve, 2. The vacuum solenoid.
I replaced the EGR vacuum solenoid and changed the vacuum lines while I was there and the problem went away.
If you do this, don't forget to clear all the fault codes, because if there is a exhaust backpressure code present it won't run a regen either, and the first exhaust backpressure code doesn't come up on your iDrive system, it only comes up once it reaches the second (higher) pressure level. Use ISTA/INPA to clear them.
If carrying out egr delete on x5 bmw does it not need to be programmed out of the ecu aswell so that the vehicle knows its gone?
Yes
@@GeorgeAusters might i suggest you tell people this before you get a hole bunch of them carrying out this job only to find their vehicle running like a bag of 💩just saying🤷♂️
What egr delete kit did you use please thanks Barry
It’s from Darkside developments. You can use code “GeorgeAusters” to get free shipping👍🏻
Thanks George today I removed the dpf on my car and gutted it I also had to remove the downpipe to remove the broken flexi pipe which I will now need to replace. Don't think you have done a replacement flexi pipe on exhaust yet in any of your videos
Isn't it 35Nm for glow plugs?
If you want to snap them maybe
The EGR ruins your engine, the ERG ruins your county
I thought there are legal obligations to retain EGR VALVE.
There is, thats why we dont want to SCREAM OUT THAT WE ARE DOING THIS so they start CHECKING if everything is there and working..
@Bercilak de hautdesert I dont know your country but here they will probably point it out if they see it or notice it in other ways i guess. But they dont activly check it as far as i know. One of my cars is missing the cat and the whole EGR cooling system including the valve but none of that has ever been pointed out. For the cat atleast, i might have been lucky but i dont know.
Hello, I do not know your language. I am writing in language translation. what I just don't understand is why the intake manifold is changed
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Thanks a lot !
Hi George , just a quick question if you don’t mind .
Should I buy a new intake manifold when I delete EGR or enough if I clean old intake manifold . Can old swirl flaps fall off after this . Thanks in advance
Hi does the egg delete bring a eml light on please
Not on every vehicle you’d have to try it and see
Not on this one, it does depend if the EGR valve has a sensor for its position, the one in the video does not.
Remaped and all be fine.
the most important reason to delete the egr = the cooler can leak water into your engine. . . . . . and thats never good
Removing a emission device is illegal and the car will fail the inspection and can not be driven. Unless this is certified by the government. So, does it meet all the smog requirements?
Pass 100% on MOT is impossible to detect. 3 cars without EGR delete and all pass with good emissions.
Just wondering if anyone has removed the anti shudder valve?
Do not do it
@@GeorgeAusters does it make any difference by having it in place? I’ve seen some kits which delete it, hence why I was wondering, would make things a lot cleaner in the engine bay too if removed?
Tried blanking off the egr on my Nissan Micra 1.5dci and the engine would barely run. Go figure.
Are you sure you didn’t blank the air inlet?
You have to remapped to Egr delete
So then , to understand this correctly , the EPA is ACTIVELY making our Engines Blow Up prematurely.......... Yes ?
What happened with the e46?
Still have it
@@GeorgeAusters any updates?
Did you work out what that one loose bolt at the back of the bay was supposed to be bolted into?
I didn't
wow 17:40 got my ass!! lol
What do you do to code out the 'warning increased emissions' and 'egr valve fault' you will keep getting after doing this job? I tried reconnecting the EGR valve electrical connector and zip tying the valve into the engine bay (to trick the ecu to stop giving fault) but it made no difference. It doesn't affect the way the car drives but it really gives me the sh#$ts
Have you had a new remap after the work was carried out?
Wouldnt this throw a code? How can i fix the code?
Needs mapping out
@@GeorgeAusters i live in the us can i send the ecu to uk or they can they do it remotely?
you have got some nice videos but I sometimes can't see what are you showing us cuz its to dark
Yeah the plan is to build a garage this year so I can work in any weather / light and have much brighter videos
Fyi that's the original bmw intake
Well worth doing the delete, but fitting a ‘delete kit’ is just asking for trouble! Just the delete via a code is sufficient.
What kind of place does that mate?
@@markymark7200 There’s lots, just google it for your area. The ‘delete’ via a code also removes any eml so it’s completely invisible.
@@TheGreatestBeyonder cheers mate
thanks for the video....Why do you have to buy a kit for this? If the EGR is unplugged and coded out of the ECU it will remain shut and not be in use? I don't understand why people buy these kits? What am I missing?
To get rid of something not being used in the engine bay. It gets rid of the thermostat that was leaking and makes it much easier to wok on the engine with all that junk out of the way!
Question George, how can you promote removing the EGR and cooler etc when it is illegal to use on the road with it removed
isn't the EGR valve a benefit to the environment ??
It is a benefit for the engine. 😉 so do not remove EGR valve.
Ahhh your hand fed warped idea that we can save the planet by paying more taxes and hopping on the lets go electric and green agenda. Its all a con to make us poor and controlled by the world economic forum. They dont care about the environment because they fly everywhere and own Bugattis. Meanwhile your dumb ass is worried about deleting a fucking egr valve. You MELT !
Its keep the combustion temp low so NOX levels remain low, but the cat normally gets rid of that aniways...
Long term the egr clogs tge engine intake up and causes power issues. Removed em all from my golf tdi years ago. Never have to wory about it nomore.
Also the NOX gasses are created at high rpm aniways, with all these speed cameras, u aint going over 30 aniways so that answers that question 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@runelund5600 Simply not true, do you breathe x% of your own farts all day?
No I didn't think so, wouldn't be good for you
No but it not so good in lungs so I’m told
If you are using the car on the road, it's better to keep the EGR system well maintained instead of deleting it. In addition to obvious and legal reasons, I think it might also bring a longevity benefit since recirculating the exhaust gases helps keep cylinder temperatures down, thus possibly reducing some amount of wear and tear on the head and whatnot (if anyone knows one way or another, I'd appreciate a reply on that topic).
Swirl flaps and EGR valve itself clogging are a real problem, of course, but they can be cleaned at some interval, right? Also, the soot buildup should be pretty slow if your PCV valve is working properly (thus no oil to mix with the recirculated gas in a sticky way) and your EGR cooler is clean enough to be effective (thus the recirculated gas would not be too hot by the time it gets to the EGR valve, again reducing stickiness).
That being said, I have a 120d with a M47 engine, and when I bought it second hand at around 100k miles, its intake manifold and surrounding parts were so clogged that it had an EGR valve actuation error and, as it turned out, the air path in the intake tubes were about 1/3 the original diameter. That was fixed with a bit of cleaning effort. I don't know what the state of the PCV valve and EGR cooler were at that time.
Nah mate. My intake is full of crap . It does the opposite
I have seen evidence this significantly increases warm up time on both engine and tranmission by a factor of 3 or 4.
To me logically an EGR is going to destroy the engine.
Clean air (via air filter) mixes with fuel and is compressed in diesel engines. Imagine then introducing air already burnt into the combustion chambers. You will have clean air, dirty carbon air and fuel. It will wear the engine premiturely in my opinion. I service my n57 330d every 8k ish but imagine people who leave it for 17k/2 years. Oil will be like sludge.
Mine is also not standard. Dpf out,swirl flaps out (bar and flaps) and egr blanked.remap 330bhp, 695nm torque. ☺️
Only remove this if you want to break down on side of the road in middle of the night…
😂😂
Dude are you serius? Keeping the Egr after 50k miles and your will break down.😂
Although it is not illegal to remove the EGR from your vehicle, it is an offence under the Road vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3))1 to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way that it no longer complies with the air pollutant emissions standards it was designed to meet. Removal of the EGR will almost invariably contravene these requirements. The potential penalties for failing to comply with Regulation 61a are fines of up to £1,000 for a car or £2,500 for a light goods vehicle.
illegal number plate.....
If you own a diesel you need to keep the EGR in the UK, this is the section is cut and pasted out of the MOT manual
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You only need to check components that are visible and identifiable, such as diesel oxidation catalysts, diesel particulate filters, exhaust gas recirculation valves and selective catalytic reduction valves.
If a diesel particulate filter has clearly been cut open and rewelded, you should reject it unless the vehicle presenter can show evidence that there was a valid reason to cut it open, such as for filter cleaning.
Defect Category
(a) Emission control equipment fitted by the manufacturer missing, obviously modified or obviously defective Major
(b) An induction or exhaust leak that could affect emissions levels Major
(c) Evidence that the diesel particulate filter has been tampered with Major
"
The problem is not the EGR its the wrong use of the car, that short journey on the school run kills diesels, white van man has the right idea when it comes to diesels.
short journey does not kill diesels. the egr won't open until the engine is warmed up. Short journeys in diesels is a myth - its no different to short journeys in petrol car.
Why don't remove also butterfly valves on intake mainfold? These are called butterfly of death because get cracked and pieces of them will be sucked by the engine basically destroying it damaging severely valve seats and also cylinders and pistons...diesel engines don't need intake air partialization like petrol counterparts (expecially if egr is no longer present so there is no need at all to partialize fresh air flow in order to create a precise proportion mix with egr air that is no longer present)....so better say goodbye to these evils ticking clockwork bombs asap. 😎
New intake manifold
It is an offence under the road vehicles (Construction & use) Regulations (Regulation 61a(3)to use a vehicle which has been modified in such a way it no longer complies with air pollution regulations & a family relative got a ticket & had to take the car for an Mot after being stopped on a dual carriage way hard shoulder due to the car smoking from a fuel air fault so is it still legal what your saying?
EGR delete is a bit dangerous on some cars, you risk a total engine meltdown in certain high load conditions where the recirulated exhaust gas is used to tame the combustion temperatures.
I remember one of my old bosses having to cough up the money to replace a engine on a mazda after it completely destroyed itself after we blocked the egr. (dont remember why exactly the egr got deleted, it was 20 years ago)
And its highly illegal, but thats besides the point
EGR delete is an offence in EU. Your numberplates will be confiscated on the spot. And you could be fined. Don't know how it is in UK. I have seen that oil spillage underneath the manifold before. Comming from swirl flap gasket leaks.
It’s £1000 fine for a car, and £2500 for van, lorry bus
Fuck the EU
Dude. What confiscated? Maybe your brain.
@@Tony-fh2wi He said number plates.
Guessing it means vehicle registration / MOT equivalent revoked.
You are the one that's come across as mentally challenged.
It’s an mot (annual test) fail in uk. Police will stop you if your car is smoking excessively. But I’ve seen dome terrible stinkers that never get stopped.
EGR's are the dumbest things ever put on diesel cars.
Agree.
Don't remove your egr .. the car won't pass it's next MOT
It will