Amazing NO OX ID A Special Report for Model Railroading

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  • @RonsTrainsNThings
    @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get a complete course on model railroad trackwork here: th-cam.com/video/Nu9qlIckU7Q/w-d-xo.html

  • @TommeeHawk
    @TommeeHawk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I set up an analog n scale a month ago. I used a brand new engine and it ran fine for a month. I go to run it one day recently and it just stops and stutters around the track. It wont even move by pushing it. If no ox doesn't work for me, I will have spent a bunch for a layout that doesn't work. I will be heartbroken and will have to walk away. Thanks for doing this video. I really hope I find success with No Ox. It shows up here in a week. I will update with my results
    Update: I cleaned with mineral spirits and lubed with the no-ox using cotton swabs. I have never been able to run this slowly since I first started running. The train runs perfectly now. Thanks Ron! I am now a subscriber

  • @kennedygauger4680
    @kennedygauger4680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Great follow-up. Interesting comments too. As for those who thought the first video was too long, it’s unfortunate that they don’t care for the “whys and where fores”, because that is the real benefit of the TH-cam platform. Please keep that in your videos. Not all of your viewers have short attention spans. Great video and relevant model railroad topic. Kennedy

    • @michaelsullivan3581
      @michaelsullivan3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree totally! Couldn't put it better m'self!

    • @Gregg825
      @Gregg825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well stated 😀!!

  • @raymondbarcik2593
    @raymondbarcik2593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the No Ox tip! I have 2 Kato Illuminates passenger car sets that I run and it would drive me nuts No matter what I did and cleaned the track constantly, My lights would Flicker. got the No Ox Id A special. I treated the track like you did and completely took apart all of my cars, polished all of the brass contact strips, cleaned everything with CRC electrical contact cleaner and applied the No Ox Id special A on everything ever so slightly. No Flicker ! Also takes lower voltage to move the locomotives, they crawl ever so much better! My older Locomotives fun better as well. I noticed after the track treatment, Run your train , as it gets on all of the wheels it runs better. the key is apply sparingly Awesome Tip, Great channel!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this testimonial. I have found that the vast majority of folks have a very good experience with it. I'm glad you did as well. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @ronaldfunk9428
    @ronaldfunk9428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just would like to thank you for this video,my track is fantastic. No light flickering Dcc operates smoothly.

  • @ronaldfunk9428
    @ronaldfunk9428 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been in this hobby for 50 yrs and have never found a way to clean track that comes even close to how this works. I cleaned a couple of places on my layout before Thanksgiving and I can go out and run a train without doing anything to it. Thank you very much.

  • @conrailmow
    @conrailmow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks to you my trains run wonderful now from NO OX ID. Its been 7 months and still rolling

  • @kencarrolwood7766
    @kencarrolwood7766 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ron
    Your advice concerning using mineral spirits and no ox I’d to clean your track has worked like a champ on my n scale layout! All of my engines run like new and there is no loss of connectivity in my track any longer! Your video helped me restore my layout to its original condition! Thank you so much!!🚂🚂🚂🚂

  • @EdKuligowski
    @EdKuligowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Ron! I was amazed on how thoroughly the low-odor mineral spirits cleaned the black gunk off of the tracks in preparation of applying No-Ox. The tip on wiping-down the tracks after applying the no-ox was very applicable. I applied the no-ox with the finger-dabbing technique. I then used a white soft cloth to wipe down the tracks. I could see how much extra no-ox was applied to the track. Even after wiping the extra from the tracks they remained super-smooth. The tracks feel smoother than when brand-new. I can't wait to finish and run my engines.

  • @johnarthur6302
    @johnarthur6302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m a big “why” guy. Truly, it’s how I remember things. Thanks for that video, and the follow up, Ron!

  • @TheLEMRR
    @TheLEMRR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got this stuff after seeing your previous video. Best thing ever. Trains run infinitely better.

  • @dennischerry4545
    @dennischerry4545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been looking at using No-Ox for a few years, your first video finally gave me the technical information I needed. Got the No-OX and followed your instructions. Took a while to get the track cleaned then applied No-Ox . Now my layout is running better than ever.
    BTW: The layout is over 27 years old and the track was used when I bought it for the layout.

  • @joerivers1768
    @joerivers1768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all of your explanation of the science of track cleaning and arcing. I appreciated all of it. Those people that complained about the length are the same ones that want nothing but super detailed RTRs on their layout and never built a single structure., and never installed a coupler on their own.

  • @kenfonda6757
    @kenfonda6757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your comments on no ox or no loc. I am a retired building inspector and for years I inspected hundreds electrical panels and switchgear. To the point, anywhere you will have dissimilar metals in direct contact, a oxidation inhibitor shall be applied to that connection.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, thank you for that info. I know that and automotive applications are what No-Ox was designed for. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @DRCRailroard
    @DRCRailroard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Ron I have been using no ox for a year now on my conventional tin o gague layout without any problems with traction on any of my locomotives whatsoever I did clean it with mineral spirits prior to applying the no ox and only applied a very light coat Even my post war steam engines run at a very consistent slow speed. I have found it does a very good job of providing consistent slow speed running with all my engines.

  • @beatlebrad5339
    @beatlebrad5339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    O wow this is just great!!! I do need to do this with my Track but didn't know how to go about it!!! Good timing lol... Are you sure you didn't come over:") LOL!!!! This is good to know what you think of it. I have been scared to do anything ... But I do trust you in it so if you like it well that is good for me too :).!!! Thank you for doing this wow this will be a big help Ron take care and God bless:")!!!

  • @ontheroadwithharveystumpf3045
    @ontheroadwithharveystumpf3045 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Ron, thank you for your tutorial and recommendation for NoOx. NoOx is phenomenal and your demonstration of how to apply it was absolutely ‘spot on’. I watched your vid in January of this year and still have not had to clean track since the initial application. Sure, i’ve had to re-do turnout switch points here and there, but that’s to be expected. I’m 69 yrs old and have been a model railroader for probably 60 yrs, and it’s no understatement to say that NoOx has been a lifesaving game changer in the headache of track cleaning.
    Thank you.

  • @colintaylor8499
    @colintaylor8499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I commented a year ago that the treatment had transformed my experience. I have a layout in a dusty garage and had to clean the track before almost every running session. My update, one year later - NO CLEANING WHATSOEVER - I’ve even undertaken substantial scenic work on the layout during the period with only minimal effort to “cover” track work, and still no cleaning.
    Can’t thank you enough Ron!!!!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing your experience. That is fantastic.

  • @TSmith-ns45
    @TSmith-ns45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ron, you are one of the very best communicators today, Sir! Don’t be discouraged by nit-picky comments. You’re a fantastic teacher; they’re just slow students 😂

  • @randygates364
    @randygates364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t wait for the 2 year update! (LOL) I took your advice and used this stuff - works as advertised. No doubt, that little tub will last several lifetimes!

  • @kkuehne45
    @kkuehne45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for following up. I've placed an order, since I intend to, at the very least, put this in my staging yard, where I need flawless train operation since it will only be 7.5" below the main deck.

  • @ricklambert2435
    @ricklambert2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used inxo on my track around the room switching layout and it works , my advice get some you won’t regret it .

  • @jhoodfysh
    @jhoodfysh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nicely done Ron. Thank you for the follow-up, I appreciate it.

  • @ozmedico
    @ozmedico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ron. I too applied No Ox ID to my track exactly the way you showed us and it works just the way you said it on here. I haven't touched it in about a year and no problems whatsoever . Thank you so much , you certainly made me enjoy this hobby alot more now 😊

  • @derekalexander4030
    @derekalexander4030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Ron. I just want to let you know that I think your first video was one of your best videos. It was very informative and needed the extra time to cover all of the data. I have recommended that video on numerous occasions to quite a few people and referred them to your channel. Thank you for doing the follow up and I’m happy that it was a great solution to a chronic problem experienced by almost every model railroader.

  • @mikedavis7733
    @mikedavis7733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching your video I ordered this product and I have to say I never have a problem with any of my engines. I’m very pleased with this product. I appreciate the time you take to share these videos.

  • @JoeG-firehousewhiskey
    @JoeG-firehousewhiskey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lengthy and wordy for the correct usage is a good thing. Nothing wrong with knowing how, and why you use a product! Great follow-up and explanation video!

  • @billbruff9613
    @billbruff9613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for the update Ron. Keep the whys and wherefores coming. May be long but certainly valuable and makes me a more intelligent model railroader! My solution for traction tire slippage is to double or triple head on the grades, and prototypically to add a helper for some trains. A friend says he solves the problem with bullfrog snot to recoat traction tire to gain geip. Again, thanks for going to the trouble to get us out of the dark ages of track cleaning.

  • @dwightcrisman3238
    @dwightcrisman3238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yup, since I started doing these processes, my track rarely gives me trouble. Polishing the rail before also helped.. this winter didn’t run trains rarely, and in this spring in my garage layout, dusty, etc., no issues when running

  • @dakotahsmith5480
    @dakotahsmith5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ron I can tell you I appreciate your videos where you go deep into detail. I found a lot of value in your track cleaning video last year! But I appreciate the update because I’m currently building my layout and forgot all about No Ox Id until this video!

  • @thomascatalano6936
    @thomascatalano6936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm a believer too! Someone shared your first video on track cleaning in a FB group a couple months ago, and that was my first intro to No-ox. I learned a few friends were already using it successfully on their layouts, so I bought a little jar to try on my portable Z layout. Did one pass with mineral spirits to clean, and another pass with a VERY light touch of the No-ox. Generally my Z scale diesels ran pretty smoothly already. But I was constantly frustrated with a little Marklin powered VW bus track inspection vehicle. This thing is smaller than the tip of my pinky and lighter than a feather! In the past, it would continually stall at various points on my layout. I had boxed it up and feared it would would be doomed to the display case. But after the single treatment with No-ox, it ran like a champ! I do have to run it fast to keep it going, but it goes now, and it was a big hit with spectators at the meet last weekend. I was a little nervous to use No-ox, so I applied really sparingly - I may go back now and apply slightly more to see if I get further improvement. Thanks for sharing the tip!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First, awesome testimonial. Second, yes, you can't scale physics, so running faster is just part of Z scale. Third, sparing is the way to go. If the amount you applied works, I would go with it until it shows need for more. Thanks for your comment.

  • @VSLAModelRR
    @VSLAModelRR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Same as most of the comments, used it about a year ago, haven't had any issues with my electrical contact. I too am expanding and have been doing work down there but no issues on the side that I used your process. I will do the same on the expansion once I complete it and have all the track painted as well. Thanks for the info!

  • @bobdutka1176
    @bobdutka1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great stuff Ron. I've been using no-ox for over 30yrs on electrical connections in damp areas, electrical connections in hot rods, battery terminals of "all" kinds... absolutely no corrosion!👍😁 I'm O gauge and I also have debated the traction tire issue.. the conclusion.. changing traction tires is a lot better than non operating locomotives.👌🙂

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will be interested to know how this works for you with traction tires. Please let us know how it goes sometime.

    • @bobdutka1176
      @bobdutka1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RonsTrainsNThings Will do. I have a lot of Vision Line locomotives.. Big Boy, 3 Challengers, etc. that are all quite heavy 15lb or so if they start to slip it will show. I don't know if it possible or not (never had to install or change a traction tire yet) if they can be turned inside out... depending on a profile I guess. Still a small price to pay for having fun!👌🙂

  • @Ken4trains
    @Ken4trains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I originally watch with curiosity, your ‘Stop cleaning your track on your model railroad’ then went about my business, then forgot about purchasing some no-ox ID. Listening to your after a year testimonial pushed me to purchase from your list. Now to treat each of my modules and stop that pesky cleaning after set up at train shows and OP sessions! Thanks again for sharing!

  • @mikegillespie4212
    @mikegillespie4212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the update. We had similar results at our train club in Gilbert AZ. We did have a couple spots where the no ox was applied a little heavy. Overall we have been pleased with the results.

  • @miketate3788
    @miketate3788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a high school science teacher I greatly appreciated the role of polar and non-polar cleaning agents. I maybe a biologist, but I still get the reasoning you used. I have never learned as much as I did from the first video, Ron. Thanks!

  • @drbbhiggins
    @drbbhiggins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you did this follow up. Keep up the good work. NO OX is a good product. I tried it after your first video and it works. Have seen major performance improvements on my layout. The detailed explination in the first video you did on this subject was well done and explained allot. Thanks for these videos.

  • @ronellenhoy9341
    @ronellenhoy9341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I too started using this product after your video. Works great, contact & traction remains great. I too only had minor dust problems when I remodelled a basement stairway & some dust got into home air system. Just a light dusting was all track needed. So, now I’m adding 2 tracks around my whole room & even my wife is encouraging me!

  • @markdusza
    @markdusza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ron your suggestion about trying No-Ox-Id was a major game changer for me and I'm immensely grateful for your video. I have a shelf railroad around the entire front of my double wide, 9 inches below the ceiling and track maintenance is a major concern. I've been involved with the hobby since 1959 and am still learning. Go figure. Your videos and the work you put into them are very much appreciated. Don't stop now. Dusza

  • @Steve_B1950
    @Steve_B1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great update! Got No OX and use it... Thanks once again Ron!

  • @michaelbroshears3053
    @michaelbroshears3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You always have valuable information. You can’t be too long or wordy for me. I had applied some areas too heavily and didn’t wipe it off well. Those areas are now up to snuff and run quite well. All treated areas are running better than ever. Many thanks for this information.

  • @ricklambert2435
    @ricklambert2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ron and I am also going to get some no.ox to . Thanks bunny for the advice.

  • @johnbanicki7232
    @johnbanicki7232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching the original video and this follow up I will be ordering some of the No-Ox to apply to my layout. Ron, thanks for the follow up!

  • @steamy1225
    @steamy1225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the follow up on this item. I used it on my clubs portable 2 layouts that we take to different shows around the area and the operation of locomotives was flawless . We cleaned the track with mineral spirits and them applied the NO-ox like you described and that made a world of difference the way the trains ran . No more stopping and going , loosing power or anything like that. now if this can convince the club to use it on the new permanent layout , That would be great. I've also used it on my 3 foot test track and it 's been working great. Thanks again for this information. I will test it on Brass track as I have plenty of it. When i build my layout I will definitely use it on my track. No questions asked. I even used it on truck voltage regulator connector and car battery connections . Works great.

  • @kgee2111
    @kgee2111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I too have the same results. Thanks Ron!

  • @shortybond7546
    @shortybond7546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate, thanks for the time and effort to explain the why's and where fore's of model railroading. I was one of those who was about to pull everything up because of stopping and stutters etc, very frustrating but I persisted. I saw your video on No-OX months ago and thought it was probably the best option. However I live in the Philippines and getting that stuff here is ni on impossible, but I had a mate in Florida who just got over here yesterday with my little jar from amazon, so I cleaned my track this morning and put the No-OX on the track and wiped it again. Well I was very happy with that quick result. The train went right around the layout with no stops or stutters. So I consider that as a winner. Thanks from Shorty.

  • @joevalentine2048
    @joevalentine2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to hear these results as I immediately purchased a container
    Because of construction circumstances I have not been able to use it. It sits on the shelf awaiting its use.
    Thanks for the update and providing the assurance to use no-ox

  • @johnmiller2880
    @johnmiller2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for the update!! I am definitely trying this now that you have given the follow up. And yes I agree with most, keep the why’s in your videos. It’s how we learn so we can grow. Thank you so much

  • @Gregg825
    @Gregg825 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ron...EXCELLENT video 😀. It's because of this educational video that I purchased my own "No-Ox-Id". Thanks again and keep up the excellent work. Very educational. I enjoy your railroad group as well.

  • @terryflynn8830
    @terryflynn8830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great viedo. Your results are as I expected, even though I do not use NO-OX ID. I also have a layout under construction. I use a different product, Inox MP3 that acheives the same results for exactly the same reasons you have explained. The only difference is I apply a few drops of the Inox MP3 oil every month or 2 and it spreads itself around the layout. I have 40 years experience using the Inox method, in dusty enviroments. Minimal cleaning has been done on track or wheels in that time.

    • @birchcrafts7762
      @birchcrafts7762 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mention has been made about no-ox-I’d not being used for engines with rubber tyres. What is the reason? Is what you use safe for rubber tyres?

  • @tywright9069
    @tywright9069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started using no ox on my layout 5 months ago and I haven't had to clean my track since and I run trains everyday

  • @marvinwimbush5121
    @marvinwimbush5121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey thank you for the explanation on maintaining tracks and what effects it has on your layout thank you very much.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว

      You may want to see my latest update: th-cam.com/video/7vTI6avmYtw/w-d-xo.html

  • @joeybrownfield3143
    @joeybrownfield3143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered some. Thanks for the update.

  • @morriscrow
    @morriscrow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ron, i have really enjoyed your video's. IN THE PROCESS OF CLEANIING ALL TRACK AND WHEELS WITH MINERAL SPIRITS. I HAVE ORDERED NO OX. HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. 1. HOW DO YOU SUGGEST CLEANING TGE WHEELS AND PICKUPS ON LIONEL LIONCHIEF LOCOMOTIVES? 2. THERE ARE AREAS OF MY LAYOUT THAT I CAN'T REACH BY HAND. I USE A TRACK CLEANING CAR TO CLEAN THOSE AREAS. HOWEVER NOT SURE HOW TO APPLY NO OX TO THOSE AREAS UNLESS I APPLY A VERY SMALL AMOUNT TO CLEAN PADS ON THE TRACK CLEANING CAR. PLEASE LET ME KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS. THANKS

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว

      For wheels, I put some mineral spirits on a small piece of cloth, put it between the wheels and track one axle at a time, hold the loco in place and run it, spinning the wheels on the cloth. Pick ups you will have to do by hand, perhaps with a Q-Tip and mineral spirits. Depending on how long those hard-to-reach areas are, if you apply No-Ox to everything else, then run trains over all the track for an hour or so, the wheels of your locos will carry it to those hard-to-reach areas. I know some.guys who apply it this way anyway. Good luck.

    • @morriscrow
      @morriscrow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonsTrainsNThings Ron, I am told that Lionchief locomotives will not run in conventional transformer mode. They have to be on powered track and run with their remote for the wheels to turn.

  • @stevehatfield6540
    @stevehatfield6540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha! Was just going to ask how No Ox was working for you Ron! ...mind reader... lol thanks for the thorough original AND this follow-up!

  • @tyrinonbrightblade
    @tyrinonbrightblade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, don't feel bad about wordy videos. I prefer knowing the 'why' behind things. Sometimes you need that info for proper use of a product and/or to get a favorable outcome. I remember watching that other video and bought a container of NO-OX to treat the track for the layout I was going to build (it's been put on hold for awhile...). Anyway, thanks for the follow up video. Your outcome is what I would have expected to see. Thanks.

  • @vitale6633
    @vitale6633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You for posting this 1 year update. I too walked away from my little dcc n-scale layout as the constant cleaning was simply too much for an afternoon of running. DCC is very sensitive to consistent electrical contact. Will definitely give this a try!!! Any feedback on outdoor use? I'm going to try this on my g-scale outdoor loop as well.

  • @rdanscale3416
    @rdanscale3416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Ron this is Ron Very good follow up I my self used some NO OX ID but on my Turnouts we're the swing bar touches the stock Rail i did after applying the NO OX have to remove any excess to stop arching, But applying this helped my Engines move through the Turnouts in my Big Yard there is no O zero power other than whats flowing off my main & my Trains Travers well through the yard this stuff is so good with conductivity you could put some on each Rail Joiner and probably not have to solder as much you can use this stuff on connectors like your coil cords on your controllers or terminal blocks on the tops of my Rails I use Inox mx3 its the same stuff that Gregg of Fish Plate films uses when I asked about cleaning track he said absolutely try & not use IPA he said clean your Track with Inox if you feel uncomfortable using mineral spirits clean it whipe it with a clean rag which I only uses Rags that you clean your glasses with since they have zero lint whipe it till you see No grey matter then re-apply the Inox which i did my metal & plastic wheels have done really well Ron I've seen little to No gunk on the Wheels and my Scaletrains Dash 9 had just a slight hiccup going through one of my Turnouts I applied some more Inox and it's hiccup went away..
    Something one's can do for there locomotives especially KATO's that use the Brass bars that connect with the Trucks put a thin coat of NO OX where the truck pivots not only will this improve conductivity it will act as slight lube allowing a smoother movement of the truck I did this on one of my Engines that the light seemed a bit dim after treating the area where truck tab meets the bar the light brightened up And it seemed to help the Engine run smoother... This was one of my older KATO Engines but all in All I'd highly recommend both products
    Allen D.. Never stop Model Railroading

  • @ronaldsmolinski8810
    @ronaldsmolinski8810 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos are very informative. Thank you!

  • @frantesorero
    @frantesorero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ron thanks for the follow up and that mirrors my experience. I have several hidden areas on my layout and I was a bit concerned how well no ox would spread and work in those areas. Well it works as good as anywhere on the layout. One mention, for those looking for some more of the science in track cleaning and what products work best, you can always check out the article Joe Fugate in Model Railroad Hobbyist wrote several years ago that scientifically compared the various cleaners people have used. Well worth the read. Thanks again and glad to know I’m in good company

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I referenced and linked that article in the original video.

  • @gil6114
    @gil6114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for video. I just ordered mine from Amazon. Cant wait to try it out.

  • @vincenthuying98
    @vincenthuying98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great edition Ron, think this particular subject is very helpful to a lot of model railroaders. Also, the feedback of your viewers added to the content is making this very item highly valuable. Definitely will start using NO-OX-ID on my layout.
    Although I understand why people would use an abrasive method after painting or otherwise adding glue or other sticky materials close to the rails, I would always prefer the wooden block method.
    Being a modeler married to my jeweler wife Camille, I’ve made our wedding rings from code 83 nickel-silver rail. When I see what kind of degeneration happens on this particular metal, just by wearing it daily, that’s almost inconceivable. First the base and top of the rail get slowly smoothed. Until they actually loose width and thickness. Eventually, even the web of the rail gets affected and thins out. I know nickel-silver isn’t the most appropriate metal to use in jewelry. But the amount of wear and tear when this material which occurs when used in other environments, really makes on think on why bright boys and other abrasives are even sold and have been so popular inside the model railroading world.
    So, your vids on micro-arcing, polar and non-polar fluids are indeed very much appreciated. This way of thinking on cleaning track is a definite game changer!
    Thanks 🙏 very much for sharing.
    Vincent

  • @davidallison976
    @davidallison976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I worked for a major telecommunications provider for 27 years. NO OX used properly will in no way affect electrical connectivity. It is a wonderful product for metal connectivity. The thin film is the key. I have used it on everything for years due to easy access to it. Only thing to say bad is, it does seem to attract dust and the dust sometimes sticks due to the film. Just a thin film will stay on for a long time!

  • @SirVisigoth
    @SirVisigoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great update, Thanks

  • @MrSw9guy
    @MrSw9guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You!

  • @mikehowey4869
    @mikehowey4869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful information.

  • @stephenomeara4338
    @stephenomeara4338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Ron, as was the initial video.

  • @UneducatedEngineer444
    @UneducatedEngineer444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No ox also works great on 3 rail o scale track! It got rid of sparking and the locomotive was able to run at a much slower speed

  • @medwaymodelrailway7129
    @medwaymodelrailway7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ron enjoyed your latest video some great ideas there thanks for sharing DD.

    • @medwaymodelrailway7129
      @medwaymodelrailway7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ron thanks very much for replying to my comment. That's the great part about the hobby sharing ideas and learning new ideas from other people to improve our Channel's. Stay safe DD.

  • @bohemianh
    @bohemianh ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered no ox going to try it! Running Marklin AC

  • @yardmaster1947
    @yardmaster1947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gee, Ron, and a while back you had convinced me to change to Mineral Spirits from alcohol. (Heavy sigh) Missed your No Ox video.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was the same video. Instill use mineral spirits when I clean track, but applying NO-OX means I rarely have to clean it again.

  • @CSX_Bennett_Subdivision
    @CSX_Bennett_Subdivision 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the follow up, your last video was great too! To the people who complained, just fast forward and use a bright boy for cleaning your track next time lol! Some of us are trying to learn, think, and grow, not copy.

  • @davidcurtis5398
    @davidcurtis5398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ron, Twenty or so years ago I had a system that was called command control made by Keller Engineering. At that time it was the only DCC type control I knew about. they recommended to use Wahl Clipper Oil to keep the track good and help the trains run better. For the time I had this set up, I used this oil and never had to clean the track or had any problems at all. believe it or not, I have a friend that uses regular transmission fluid (used sparsely) and has not had to clean his layout in the past 2 years. This new stuff sounds very interesting. I don't use anything as I have no track power and I still run my trains. I totally agree with your statement that if users of any of the 3 things I have mentioned cause the road to loose a significant amount of traction, then you have used just to much. With the oil and the transmission fluid we put some on a Q tip and place short rubs along several areas of the road. Then when the train runs over these areas, it will pick up the material and distribute it along the rest of the road. It seems that the substance you are talking about didn't spread to the untreated parts of your road as much as was my experience. Since you put a thin layer on and then wipe most off, this may be why the material isn't being spread around the road on the wheels of the trains. You don't need a lot of any of the 3 materials but you do need enough for the train wheels (engine as well as the cars) to pick it up and distribute it over the road. None of the 3 items mentioned here are "track cleaners" as such.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My only caution here is with the transmission fluid. It works, but if it gets on plastic models it can damage paint and make the plastic very brittle.

    • @davidcurtis5398
      @davidcurtis5398 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonsTrainsNThings Not enough for that to happen. My friend has been using this for over 15 years and no problems have come up. How would the fluid get on any plastic in enough volume to do any problems???

  • @b1cates
    @b1cates ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got into the hobby over covid and installed a shuttle ceiling layout. it soon became apparent that frequent track maintenance would be required to keep the loco moving and considered ripping it down. With nothing to lose - even though I'm sceptical about miracle cures - thought I'd give NoOx a try. I was flabbergasted with the results; The loco hasn’t missed a beat and no more stuttering when accelerating from standstill. Admittedly it’s early days, but even in this short timeframe, the ladder would have been out at least a couple of times. Seriously, even if this reduces my track maintenance to every quarter, that’s a big win in my book!
    In case anyone else is thinking of giving it a try here’s a few of things that I learnt: 1. Less is definitely more, apply sparingly and wipe off excess 2. Allow track to dry for 24 hrs, run your loco for a few mins then lightly wipe track and wheels to ensure you have removed all excess. 3. Some of my plastic wheeled coaches derailed in reverse, I thoroughly cleaned the wheels and this fixed the problem but to avoid future issues will be replacing with metal. 4. My layout is flat and run a timed DC shuttle between stations and can confirm that the time taken to reach each end point (same speed setting) was exactly the same post application of NoOx. This indicates no loss of traction. However, If your track has gradients, people report that you will lose some traction.
    Thanks Ron, for bringing NoOx to my attention and it has definitely saved me from aborting the hobby!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the testimonial. I'm glad you had such a good experience.

  • @michaeldixon5144
    @michaeldixon5144 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you recommend a glue for free cork under track please

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you mean for gluing track to the cork, I use a gray latex caulk, flatten it with a putty knife. If you mean for gluing the cork to the layout, if gluing to wood I use Elmer's wood glue. If gluing to foam I use Styrogoo from Hotwire Foam Factory or Liquid Nails for Projects. It is foam safe, where regular Liquid Nails is not.

  • @bigsby2076
    @bigsby2076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do plastic freight car wheels have any negative effect on the no-ox-id treatment?

  • @IMRROcom
    @IMRROcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Ron, Hard to believe that was a year ago.

  • @RichsModelingTrains
    @RichsModelingTrains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Review. Thanks

  • @SteamingPriest
    @SteamingPriest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I followed your cleaning advice followed by using no ox on the whole layout. It is still an incomplete layout. Before I used it my trains were sputtering throughout. Since I have used it, I can run the complet track at 1 on my NCE Powercab. This is the way to go for me and will be my advice to anyone who asks my opinion.

  • @Mr._Darby
    @Mr._Darby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I also use No Ox on my locomotives when I service them.

    • @donaldkormos5529
      @donaldkormos5529 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was wondering about No Ox on the track AND the locos (or cars with track power pickups for sound or lighting). Did you put a little No Ox on the pickup wheels?

    • @Mr._Darby
      @Mr._Darby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not on the wheels

  • @mikegibson7193
    @mikegibson7193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info!! I'm in the process of rebuilding my model railroad and was going to reuse the track from the previous layout. After listening to these two videos I'm not so sure. I had used extensively the bright boy and IPA to clean my track. I'm sure I have many "deep" grooves in the older track. Would it be best to use new track (which I have!!) or can I salvage some or most of the old track??

  • @TOPWOP999
    @TOPWOP999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hahaha too wordy and long, whiners. Was a great vid ron. Don’t apologize. I use the same product and it works awesome. I run a ton of trains on my 600 sq ft 2 deck layout. I’m at the point now after a year where I have to to a full clean or the units and cars and then the track and reapply nonox. Thanks for your vid.

  • @williamflowersrailfannerpr3808
    @williamflowersrailfannerpr3808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Video Ron great job 👏 👍 😀

  • @georgeott584
    @georgeott584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using Maas metal polish on my HO and N scale switching layouts. It cleans and protects the rails against oxidation and all my locos have never run smoother! I've used every method you could imagine for decades with mixed results and NOTHING comes close to the results I've had with the polish. Dab a little on the railheads and buff them off...It's amazing all the black residue that comes off. Just be careful around the switch points. I used to have to clean my track about every 3 operating sessions and now I haven't had to do it for 4 months so far. And I run both layouts a LOT. I just lightly run a soft cloth over the rails to remove any possible dust. Flitz is another brand I hear works just as well. That said, I may try the NO-OX at some point just to compare...

  • @mgb074
    @mgb074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I followed your advice a year ago and totally agree with your assessment. I have lost a little traction in my helix but probably put too much on initially.
    Reg
    Adelaide Australia

  • @herbstein8356
    @herbstein8356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just watched the follow-up video on NO OX and I think I am one of those who used too much NO OX and as a result, none of my 5 locos that had been running wil now run. My question is, what the remedy? Clean the NO OX off with isopropyl aclcohol or some other cleaner ad the reapply a much ligther coating of NO OX ? Or something else? Thanks for this follow-up video. Good to know if the NO OX is applied correctly, track-cleaning ther than dusting can be a thing ofd thepast.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, if your over applied you will need to clean it off the track and loco wheels. Personally, I would just use a lint-free clothe and wipe it down as you will eventually get to that thin layer needed and shouldn't need to reapply.

  • @SammoKarm
    @SammoKarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have started to use this product however, I cannot get access to all of the track but I do have 2 of the CMX track cleaners. I have used INOX MX3 so I need to clean that off first. I am thinking of using the CMX's with fresh cut pads first, and then use the NO OX ID A Special, on fresh cut pads to apply it. do you have any better solutions? Thanks.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depending on how much track you are having trouble reaching, I would apply some no ox on each side at the farthest place that you can reach and then run locomotives back and forth through the area to apply the no walks to the track using their wheels.

  • @michaelsullivan3581
    @michaelsullivan3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Here is an old and well proven technique for cleaning rubber. As a sound engineer I was trained to use 409 to clean the rubber pucks that pull the tape through a tape recorder. The reason for using 409 is that, by design, it goes into the pores of the rubber and LIFTS dirt, grime and oils up out of the rubber. I have had very good luck rejuvenating model locomotive traction tires using 409. You apply the 409 sparingly to a swab or towel and very lightly clean the traction tire while still on the wheel. The best way I've found to do this is to put a piece of thin cloth with a minimal amount of 409 on it across a piece of track and run the loco over it. I prefer to hold the loco at one end on the track while lowering the other end (truck) onto the towel. With a little practice one can get clean, rejuvenated traction tires easily. Of course this doesn't rebuild a worn traction tire. The traction tire has to be in great condition to start with! This technique just cleans the traction tire of dirt and other contaminates! Hope this helps!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is a fantastic tip. Thanks so much for sharing it.

    • @michaelsullivan3581
      @michaelsullivan3581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RonsTrainsNThings Great choice of words. I was taught that "Fantastic" works the same way, but I have never used it!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelsullivan3581 LOL Yes I thought of that pun, but left it alone. 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @sharpenflat6002
      @sharpenflat6002 ปีที่แล้ว

      ArmourAll works very good also.

  • @mastervoni1285
    @mastervoni1285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered no-ox before even building My new layout

  • @tazcountry4828
    @tazcountry4828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Laying new track what process do you recommend when putting down brand new track from scratch what would you recommend here

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would treat with a very light coat of no-ox right off the bat. If you paint track later, clean the rail heads after and then reapply.

  • @redwoodcityintheuknscalera7179
    @redwoodcityintheuknscalera7179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no ox id just ordered it non polar track cleaner good ol lighter fluid in a cmx track cleaning car

  • @DrEpicPhD
    @DrEpicPhD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have NO-OX on the Midwest Model RR site because of you.

  • @sscalercourtney5486
    @sscalercourtney5486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I'm not clear on. Did you put a tiny bit of No-Ox on all of your lower track. Or just the bit shown in the video and then spread with your locomotives.

  • @honestgbfan5324
    @honestgbfan5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great follow up video! I have one question? On my railroad roster of cars, I have not switched all of them over to metal wheels as of this time. Can it harm the plastic wheels on those I have not switched over yet? Or can the plastic ruin the NO OX already applied to the track?

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A good question, and no, it will not damage plastic wheels.

    • @honestgbfan5324
      @honestgbfan5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you very much :)

  • @ricklambert2435
    @ricklambert2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hay “ do you put it just in one spot or do you treat the whole layout with a thin layer of the no-ox

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've seen it done both ways, but I prefer to treat all the track with a very thin film. That way I know exactly how much I have applied everywhere.

    • @ricklambert2435
      @ricklambert2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok thanks I’ll do it like u did Ron ya have a good day and god bliss talk later

  • @michaeldixon5144
    @michaeldixon5144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you use it with traction tyres?

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  ปีที่แล้ว

      You CAN, it will not attack the tires, BUT it will tend to coat them and make them less effective.

  • @patrickmurphy6775
    @patrickmurphy6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have enjoyed both of these videos. When Fishplate Films first published his video on no longer using the well known track cleaning products, I immediately switched to CRC as he reccomended. Your videos have been even more informative, which I appreciate. I do have a question: I am running a Marklin layout with 3 rail track (not the center stud type). Will No Ox help with my 3 rail system? I am not running digital. Thank you and keep up the good work!!!

  • @michaeldixon5144
    @michaeldixon5144 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking for handheld Hoover for scenery can u advise how powerful so don't DESTROY grass shrubs ect thanks

  • @antoniojmnogueira
    @antoniojmnogueira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Ron. Thank you for this update. I'm from Portugal and I'm following some of your videos. My layout is with Peco code 55 track (N scale) and cleaned my track with 1000 grade sand paper, then 2000 grade sand paper and finelly with 5000 grade sans paper. Then I pollished with some metal grease and finally I clean it with WD-40 Specialist (for eletrical contacts). I'm thinking of give a new treatmant with NO-OX-ID special to have a more permanent cleaned track. On you advice, is this to much? Other rhing: I plan to paint the track. Would I paint before or after the treatmant with NO-OX-ID special? Thank you. Best Regards, António Nogueira

  • @jlvaviation9140
    @jlvaviation9140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content. Subscribed! What would be your recommendation for cleaning agents? I remember you mentioning “mineral spirits” in your original video. Which would be the good ones? Thx!