All bikes will rust if they aren’t looked after . Either way bikes are meant to be used in all weather & it’s no big deal if they get the odd bit of rust & corrosion . If it gets a bit out of control , bikes can always be tarted up . Back in the day when we went looking for a used bike , we didn’t expect it to have below average miles & in showroom condition. It’s more important for a motorcycle to be in a mechanically sound road worthy condition, than look a pristine show Queen . The worst rust heap I ever owned was made in Italy ,& wasn’t as reliable as the cheapest Chinese no name generic bikes or scooters .
We have a 12 years old Lexmoto Arizona, that has not got a bit of rust on it, because it's cleaned, polished, dried when wet, and kept in a garage So you are 100% correct ❤
No idea if you know or not but Keeway have a tie up with Benda now, they are who build the 302 Keeway I believe, they are making a few properly interesting bikes, particularly a 500 V4 and a 500 V twin, add a 250 V twin with unique front suspension, also a 400 4 cylinder sports bike and the mad 700 cruiser with the huge back tyre and a wacky street fighter with the same engine, some of those are already available in Spain so hopefully we will get them here as well
Nice to see someone not talking 拉屎 about these bikes! I've been working on Keeways for years (and the Kymco Hipster/Zing they share the frame, engine and some parts from for even longer) and have been nothing but impressed with them when they're looked after. I've been running a 2019 Superlight LTD for a little over 15 months, and I've covered 66k km in that time, with very few problems ( a lot less than any of my Japanese, Italian, or British bikes, and a lot cheaper to repair!). In fact, most of my problems have been chronicled on the owners groups, along with the repairs lol. Other than the consumables, I've had to replace the front brake light switch and rear brake master cylinder (both upgraded from stock), and a coil which broke down (replaced with an identical virago coil). The bike lives outside 24/7, uncovered. It's ridden in all weathers (including through floods that left a water line half way up the battery), and never gets cleaned. Well, once a year maybe 😂 the worst spots for rust are the pedals, and the centrestand. Everything else is surprisingly clean!
@@GillyBikes its a fantastic little bike if you treat it right. Its also lasted better than some of my Japanese, Italian, British or American made bikes. Surprisingly comfortable over long distances too! 650 miles in a day every other weekend and this little keeway keeps soldiering on 🤣
4 years old and only 2-3k miles is hardly regular usage. Been kept in a garage more than ridden I suspect. I have a 100mile a day round commute 5 days a week so my monthly mileage is about that bikes total. I protect my bikes also as they are my transport for work so an investment in time to keep them going is essential.
You would be surprised at how many people buy bikes and just don’t look after them. I’ve seen so many bikes of all different makes and they have been rotten
You do make an excellent point, my own lexmoto ZSX bought new in 2015 properly run in, serviced every 1500 miles, and jet washed every month (twice a month in winter), parked outside as i live in a 1st floor flat, and riden 200 miles with a weeks worth of camping gear on board, after 6 years and 20,000 miles, was still getting compliments from strangers on a regular basis, i would still be riding it today, had it not been stolen, today im on my second Chinese bike, a 2022 Assault, and have already managed 170 miles in a day out and still in showroom condition. I don't mind people neglecting their machines, but at least be honest about it, and stop trying to blame the bikes. 😉
Dealer network isn't hard to find at all for the proper branded bikes, and considering most of the other main manufacturers are closing dealers they now outnumber some big brands, Honda are down to 75 or so dealers from over 300 a few.years back, it is all relative now with some dealers selling.multiole.btands but just headlining a bigger brand to draw people in
I have an {almost} 4yo {Jan '23} reg'd AJS 125 Desert Scrambler ....it has been mainly used for GreenLaning, in the fairly harsh enviroment of the Derbyshire Peak District {lots of rough limestone roads & lanes, which I believe limestone is slightly corrosive} At 3000km {1800 miles} it is showing signs of corrosion, mainly around the chain guard {which is black painted} I took the precaution when it was new, of removing all the bolts, and treating them with "Coppaslip" grease, and TBH, there is very little chrome on what is an off roader. I jet-wash it after every outing, and the only problem I have had is dirt{?} getting into the "kill button" switch, so I now give all the all the electrics & switchgear a good dosing of switchcleaner after every outing. The only other complaint {problem?} which I had was the interconnected front & rear brake ....they work great on road bikes, but can be lethal when off-roading as the front wheel can lock up on gravel when braking with the rear wheel ....and as the rear brake was pretty poor anyway, I had new seals fitted to the brake cylinders, and the interconnecting pipe blocked/blanked off.....I also intend fitting a new chain shortly, as {maybe?} Chinese chains are not as hardy as Japanese ones. Overall, my AJS, at £2800, cost less than a 4or5 year old Japanese 125 off-roader, which could have had a dubious past, and with over 55 years riding experience, I know how to care for & maintain a bike ......as my 24yo {2000reg} Yamaha Dragstar 650 will attest, as it is still almost in "mint" condition.
Now you say that but most of the Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, KTM, royal Enfield, dealers up north sell these bikes as well. In fact I would bet they are out selling all of their Japanese bikes by quite a lot.
@@GillyBikes To be honest with you I really like the look of the new voge 900 and the price. I’m looking at a mid adventure bike and it’s very tempting . I will wait until one comes up used or ex demo to see how much they depreciate before I get serious about one.
I have the sinnis hoodlum, its 2 years old, i use it daily, its been a fantastic bike, no breakdowns at all, ive even been on a 500 mile camping trip on it recently, i service and care for it meticulously and its kept in an underground car park under 2 covers with a ton of locks on for obvious reasons. The only issue is the paint underneath on the engine and some parts of the frame keep flaking off and have done from new no rust or sign of corrosion just the paint work is terrible
That’s brilliant. I’m desperate for a bike camping trip before the weather gets to bad and the sites all close. Whereabouts did you go and can you recommend any sites?
I loved my 16 plate version, would still be riding it if it wasn't for some tool that overtook me and caused an accident and fatality . I've had bikes to date,honda varado, a super light and currently a Yamaha virago 535 at a friend's recommendation. The superlight made me fall in love with riding. I'd happily go back to a superlight even with virago having bigger engine
Totally agree that if you look after something it will last. Out of interest though; where do all these rusted bikes go?? Buying a used Keeway (other brands are available) isn't the easiest thing to find.
If you live by the coast beware the salty stuff. I just give my old bike oily rag treatment once in a while and its a bit shabby but nothing lasts forever
The problem with biker gossip is that the majority of the guys doing the talking are older generation and are stuck in the past, they are out the loop of modern trends but still think they are cool and relatable to the younger market when they are not, the younger generation ride around on anything in fact many are looking at electric as the new cheap way to get around locally and are not brand snobbish. Also, many people switch bikes after they return it once their loan period runs out or before 1st MOT to avoid paying out extra costs. What i will say though is MotoGB the suppliers of some of these chinese/korean bikes do have a very bad reputation for poor service and lack of support, so if you are buying a bike, avoid a brand which deals with them
Complete nonsense son ..... I'm 68 years old and would kick your arse on CoD or Battlefield and there are many more like me , stereotyping older people is ageist and not cool ........
Sadly you're right which is why the quality of the big four Japanese brands has been in decline for many years. Todays buyers don't care about the name just whether it looks 'nice' and what the payments are over three years.
MotoGB own many dealerships. In my own experience I have come across some amazing MotoGB dealerships but I have also been let down by a couple. I genuinely believe it comes down to the people working there. That’s been my experience. The really good ones will do anything to help. I think a lot of youngsters get a bike as a stop gap as well. They plan to keep it no longer than a year or 2 or until they pass their car test. And for a lot of them they just want what ever is cheapest
@@GillyBikes The problem is not the dealership but the distributor motogb who are renowned for warranty issues, faulty bikes and parts unavailable for months on end, lack of customer care or responsibility if any problems occur, they basically act like a shady alleyway dealer soon as it means money out of their own pocket and will quickly disappear unless you pursue them, not a professional service whatsoever, if you are out for a cheaper alternative bike go with brands which do not sit under the motogb monikor and you will be fine, such as Mash, Mutt, Zontes, Bluroc etc.
It's the nature of metal to rust and not just on Chinese bikes .My 24 year old BMW is totaly devoid of rust Yet My 18 month Harley davidson was covered with it in the first winter .I have owned 3 Chinese motorcycles that were rusty from the factory and I have a pre first world war bicycle that that has stood outside in the garden for the 60 years since I have owned it with no rust any where .At the end of the day it seems like a matter of luck more than anything else.In my opinion if you buy a Chinese motorcycle rust will be the least of your problems .
@GillyBikes it's magnifique.. Great roads for bikes lots of harleys ,GS ,africa twins . Not seen a Nikon yet. It's 24 degrees plus. Love it here. We can do a tour here. I made few contacts too
Just a guess, but maybe young first bike owners are buying these as a way of moving up to bigger bikes, and are almost treating them as dissposable, and so, just not bothering to look after them, i mean i dont remember being too thoughtful of the future when i was a kid.
I think you are probably right. The older generation seem to look after the bikes. Once you have learnt the value of money you learn to look after your investments.
Hi, thanks for the nice vid once again! Just a quick one- what kind of spray you would use to "wipe down" your bikes? especially in winter time. Cheers
@@wombat1238marsupialACF 50 was not designed to be applied on areas subject to direct weather . It’s designed to be used in the internal parts & nooks & cranny’s in airframes to prevent corrosion from damp & condensation .
@@GillyBikes cheers mate! I wonder for how long the can lasts, I'm sure I would use it in 1 go with my ocd's :D not sure if I'm ready for the first bike...anyhow if I will get one, from in2moto for sure, I've noticed a few nice ktm's sitting and waiting for me
All the haters will hate the fact this bike is still in great condition after 4 years. Chinese bikes will dominate certain parts of the market soon, especially as more Millenials and Gen Z start buying bikes and aren't prejudice, unlike many Gen X and Boomers.
Well its obviously well looked after but for me I would without doubt, spend the 500 quid extra to have the comfort of proper warranty, and the luxury no MOTs for 3 years. Also the first few hundred Miles are critical on these old air-cooled engines, needs a bigger price difference for me.
I agree. I hate taking bikes for MOT’s and I also like knowing that the bike has been looked after from day 1. The only way to 100% know that is to buy new. But for those without the extra money this is a good second option.
Hello sir, Im interested in buying this motorcycle, not if I get a license first, but I have a big dilemma; I live in Scotland -as you know- the weather here is more wilder and colder than in England, I live in a building that has no parking or garage, and just thinking about leaving my hypothetical motorcycle outside every day facing the elements (especially in winter) makes me sad. I don't know if using a motorcycle cover is enough because if I buy this motorcycle I would take care of it like the child I dont want to have. Im looking for an alternative to get around because Im fed up with the bus and giving my money to that dreadful company that is First Bus. The car is not an alternative for me either because where I live (Aberdeen) is one of the most expensive cities in Scotland to have a car and I dont want to throw away a lot of money just for a canned comfort. Im a foreigner living in the UK for 4 years and Im looking for an alternative to have more mobility independence and the idea of a bike really appeals to me but I have many doubts and uncertainty. As I said before, I dont have a garage and I dont know if using a motorcycle cover, greasing the chain and measuring the oil is enough for the bike to survive in these lands. Also the idea of leaving the bike outside at night exposed to drunks and junkies doesnt like at all... but 2 minutes from where I live there is a 24hs police station that has a parking for motorcycles, I dont know if I should consider that something positive in my situation. I apologize in advance for the extension of my comment and I hope you can help me... because if you recommend me not to have the bike because I don't have a garage then I will have no other option than to buy those toy ebikes and accept the ridiculous law of going 15kms with a 250v motor. Thanks for your time and you have a new subscriber.
That’s quite the dilemma you have there. Any bike will show signs of corrosion living outside. A decent cover will help protect it but it won’t stop it all together. You can buy things like ACF50 which I just spray onto the exposed metal bits over the winter. When I bought my first couple of bikes I had to do the same. Just a cover and quite a few locks. It’s doable. It you have bike parking outside the police station I would hope that is a safe place to park it and lock it all up. Do any others do the same there?
I rarely seen motorcycles in the parking of the police station, usually you see patrol cars and cars. I dont want to give up looking for an alternative of movement autonomy and I found one that caught my attention, the Honda Dax 125; I really liked how practical it looks and the size because can fit in a small storage room that exists in my building. What do you think of the Honda Dax? Do you recommend it? Do you have any video about this motorcycle? If I buy it I would like to put wheels more bigger and an exhaust for have more presence on the streets. Kind regards sir.
@PesimistaErudito I’ve not tried a Dax, but I’ve been on a few Honda Monkey bikes which I’m sure has the same engine. But physically a very small bike. I’ve done a review on one recently. That might be even better for you? Here’s the link th-cam.com/video/d9EM4UDuAnM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EQizRDPGXJTav_PO
All bikes will rust if they aren’t looked after . Either way bikes are meant to be used in all weather & it’s no big deal if they get the odd bit of rust & corrosion . If it gets a bit out of control , bikes can always be tarted up . Back in the day when we went looking for a used bike , we didn’t expect it to have below average miles & in showroom condition. It’s more important for a motorcycle to be in a mechanically sound road worthy condition, than look a pristine show Queen . The worst rust heap I ever owned was made in Italy ,& wasn’t as reliable as the cheapest Chinese no name generic bikes or scooters .
We have a 12 years old Lexmoto Arizona, that has not got a bit of rust on it, because it's cleaned, polished, dried when wet, and kept in a garage
So you are 100% correct ❤
I really appreciate you sharing that. 😁😍
No idea if you know or not but Keeway have a tie up with Benda now, they are who build the 302 Keeway I believe, they are making a few properly interesting bikes, particularly a 500 V4 and a 500 V twin, add a 250 V twin with unique front suspension, also a 400 4 cylinder sports bike and the mad 700 cruiser with the huge back tyre and a wacky street fighter with the same engine, some of those are already available in Spain so hopefully we will get them here as well
Yes. The vcruise 125 and 302 are my favourites in the UK. I really hope we see more over here. A 700 cruiser / sports bike 🥰
Nice to see someone not talking 拉屎 about these bikes! I've been working on Keeways for years (and the Kymco Hipster/Zing they share the frame, engine and some parts from for even longer) and have been nothing but impressed with them when they're looked after.
I've been running a 2019 Superlight LTD for a little over 15 months, and I've covered 66k km in that time, with very few problems ( a lot less than any of my Japanese, Italian, or British bikes, and a lot cheaper to repair!). In fact, most of my problems have been chronicled on the owners groups, along with the repairs lol. Other than the consumables, I've had to replace the front brake light switch and rear brake master cylinder (both upgraded from stock), and a coil which broke down (replaced with an identical virago coil). The bike lives outside 24/7, uncovered. It's ridden in all weathers (including through floods that left a water line half way up the battery), and never gets cleaned. Well, once a year maybe 😂 the worst spots for rust are the pedals, and the centrestand. Everything else is surprisingly clean!
That’s impressive miles on the clock. If you listen to a lot on here these bikes will be dust before they reach 10k 😂
@@GillyBikes its a fantastic little bike if you treat it right. Its also lasted better than some of my Japanese, Italian, British or American made bikes.
Surprisingly comfortable over long distances too! 650 miles in a day every other weekend and this little keeway keeps soldiering on 🤣
@the_mad_ratter wow. 🤩
4 years old and only 2-3k miles is hardly regular usage. Been kept in a garage more than ridden I suspect. I have a 100mile a day round commute 5 days a week so my monthly mileage is about that bikes total. I protect my bikes also as they are my transport for work so an investment in time to keep them going is essential.
You would be surprised at how many people buy bikes and just don’t look after them. I’ve seen so many bikes of all different makes and they have been rotten
You do make an excellent point, my own lexmoto ZSX bought new in 2015 properly run in, serviced every 1500 miles, and jet washed every month (twice a month in winter), parked outside as i live in a 1st floor flat, and riden 200 miles with a weeks
worth of camping gear on board, after 6 years and 20,000 miles, was still getting compliments from strangers on a regular basis, i would still be riding it today, had it not been stolen, today im on my second Chinese bike, a 2022 Assault, and have already managed 170 miles in a day out and still in showroom condition. I don't mind people neglecting their machines, but at least be honest about it, and stop trying to blame the bikes. 😉
Thanks for sharing that. 100% correct. 😎
We got these Chinese scooters and bikes but the dealer network is hard to find if anywhere so most are considered throw away machine
Dealer network isn't hard to find at all for the proper branded bikes, and considering most of the other main manufacturers are closing dealers they now outnumber some big brands, Honda are down to 75 or so dealers from over 300 a few.years back, it is all relative now with some dealers selling.multiole.btands but just headlining a bigger brand to draw people in
Depends where you live I suppose. In the UK in particular the northwest there are loads of shops selling them.
I have an {almost} 4yo {Jan '23} reg'd AJS 125 Desert Scrambler ....it has been mainly used for GreenLaning, in the fairly harsh enviroment of the Derbyshire Peak District {lots of rough limestone roads & lanes, which I believe limestone is slightly corrosive}
At 3000km {1800 miles} it is showing signs of corrosion, mainly around the chain guard {which is black painted}
I took the precaution when it was new, of removing all the bolts, and treating them with "Coppaslip" grease, and TBH, there is very little chrome on what is an off roader.
I jet-wash it after every outing, and the only problem I have had is dirt{?} getting into the "kill button" switch, so I now give all the all the electrics & switchgear a good dosing of switchcleaner after every outing.
The only other complaint {problem?} which I had was the interconnected front & rear brake ....they work great on road bikes, but can be lethal when off-roading as the front wheel can lock up on gravel when braking with the rear wheel ....and as the rear brake was pretty poor anyway, I had new seals fitted to the brake cylinders, and the interconnecting pipe blocked/blanked off.....I also intend fitting a new chain shortly, as {maybe?} Chinese chains are not as hardy as Japanese ones.
Overall, my AJS, at £2800, cost less than a 4or5 year old Japanese 125 off-roader, which could have had a dubious past, and with over 55 years riding experience, I know how to care for & maintain a bike ......as my 24yo {2000reg} Yamaha Dragstar 650 will attest, as it is still almost in "mint" condition.
Take it to a Honda Suzuki dealership and try to part ex a Chinese bike I doubt you would be happy with the outcome.
Now you say that but most of the Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, KTM, royal Enfield, dealers up north sell these bikes as well. In fact I would bet they are out selling all of their Japanese bikes by quite a lot.
@@GillyBikes To be honest with you I really like the look of the new voge 900 and the price. I’m looking at a mid adventure bike and it’s very tempting . I will wait until one comes up used or ex demo to see how much they depreciate before I get serious about one.
The new 900 is awesome. It’s pretty much a BMW - F850GS. Most places seem to have demo bikes on now. You should go and try one.
They are Cheap to Buy Look after them .. sell Private & in Total you
Will get Your Money's Worth
I have the sinnis hoodlum, its 2 years old, i use it daily, its been a fantastic bike, no breakdowns at all, ive even been on a 500 mile camping trip on it recently, i service and care for it meticulously and its kept in an underground car park under 2 covers with a ton of locks on for obvious reasons. The only issue is the paint underneath on the engine and some parts of the frame keep flaking off and have done from new no rust or sign of corrosion just the paint work is terrible
That’s brilliant. I’m desperate for a bike camping trip before the weather gets to bad and the sites all close. Whereabouts did you go and can you recommend any sites?
I loved my 16 plate version, would still be riding it if it wasn't for some tool that overtook me and caused an accident and fatality . I've had bikes to date,honda varado, a super light and currently a Yamaha virago 535 at a friend's recommendation. The superlight made me fall in love with riding.
I'd happily go back to a superlight even with virago having bigger engine
if you use it only in summer dry weather and garage it does not rust but use it normal riding 1 year rust away
I’m so tempted to buy one for research now 😂
Totally agree that if you look after something it will last. Out of interest though; where do all these rusted bikes go?? Buying a used Keeway (other brands are available) isn't the easiest thing to find.
If you live by the coast beware the salty stuff. I just give my old bike oily rag treatment once in a while and its a bit shabby but nothing lasts forever
Yes that salt in the air destroys all cars and bikes. 🥹
Everything made of steel rusts if you dont look after it.
Very true.
The problem with biker gossip is that the majority of the guys doing the talking are older generation and are stuck in the past, they are out the loop of modern trends but still think they are cool and relatable to the younger market when they are not, the younger generation ride around on anything in fact many are looking at electric as the new cheap way to get around locally and are not brand snobbish. Also, many people switch bikes after they return it once their loan period runs out or before 1st MOT to avoid paying out extra costs. What i will say though is MotoGB the suppliers of some of these chinese/korean bikes do have a very bad reputation for poor service and lack of support, so if you are buying a bike, avoid a brand which deals with them
Complete nonsense son ..... I'm 68 years old and would kick your arse on CoD or Battlefield and there are many more like me , stereotyping older people is ageist and not cool ........
Sadly you're right which is why the quality of the big four Japanese brands has been in decline for many years. Todays buyers don't care about the name just whether it looks 'nice' and what the payments are over three years.
MotoGB own many dealerships. In my own experience I have come across some amazing MotoGB dealerships but I have also been let down by a couple. I genuinely believe it comes down to the people working there. That’s been my experience. The really good ones will do anything to help.
I think a lot of youngsters get a bike as a stop gap as well. They plan to keep it no longer than a year or 2 or until they pass their car test. And for a lot of them they just want what ever is cheapest
@@GillyBikes The problem is not the dealership but the distributor motogb who are renowned for warranty issues, faulty bikes and parts unavailable for months on end, lack of customer care or responsibility if any problems occur, they basically act like a shady alleyway dealer soon as it means money out of their own pocket and will quickly disappear unless you pursue them, not a professional service whatsoever, if you are out for a cheaper alternative bike go with brands which do not sit under the motogb monikor and you will be fine, such as Mash, Mutt, Zontes, Bluroc etc.
😂😂😂. Only one way to settle this CoD match 👍👍👍
My wife's Honda Rebel is 5 years old with 24,000 miles on the clock, and, not a speck of rust....
And does she look after it?
@@GillyBikes serviced once a year, she washes it.
@barriewilliams4526 👍
It's the nature of metal to rust and not just on Chinese bikes .My 24 year old BMW is totaly devoid of rust Yet My 18 month Harley davidson was covered with it in the first winter .I have owned 3 Chinese motorcycles that were rusty from the factory and I have a pre first world war bicycle that that has stood outside in the garden for the 60 years since I have owned it with no rust any where .At the end of the day it seems like a matter of luck more than anything else.In my opinion if you buy a Chinese motorcycle rust will be the least of your problems .
😂. With the really cheap crap I agree. Some of those won’t last no matter how much you look after them.
Great video. We arrange for you to get my Harley on ur channel asap when im back from France lad.
How’s France? You should definitely have taken me instead. I’m well more fun than T.
@GillyBikes it's magnifique.. Great roads for bikes lots of harleys ,GS ,africa twins . Not seen a Nikon yet. It's 24 degrees plus. Love it here. We can do a tour here. I made few contacts too
Glad to hear. You should definitely have taken me.
I’ve never seen a Chinese bike look so good after a few years. That’s definitely been looked after better than Taffy2wheels Harley 😂
Much better than his. He’s just lazy I think.
If you live by the sea, say, and don't have a garage, any Japanese bike would rust.
I remember buying a used car that had been owned by someone by the sea. It was rotten. The rust was shocking. That salt just destroys anything metal.
Just a guess, but maybe young first bike owners are buying these as a way of moving up to bigger bikes, and are almost treating them as dissposable, and so, just not bothering to look after them, i mean i dont remember being too thoughtful of the future when i was a kid.
I think you are probably right. The older generation seem to look after the bikes. Once you have learnt the value of money you learn to look after your investments.
Hi, thanks for the nice vid once again! Just a quick one- what kind of spray you would use to "wipe down" your bikes? especially in winter time. Cheers
I use ACF50 which is a renowned rust inhibitor, worked for me for years
@@wombat1238marsupialACF 50 was not designed to be applied on areas subject to direct weather . It’s designed to be used in the internal parts & nooks & cranny’s in airframes to prevent corrosion from damp & condensation .
I was beaten to it. I use ACF50 on them all 👍
@@GillyBikes cheers mate! I wonder for how long the can lasts, I'm sure I would use it in 1 go with my ocd's :D not sure if I'm ready for the first bike...anyhow if I will get one, from in2moto for sure, I've noticed a few nice ktm's sitting and waiting for me
@@wombat1238marsupial TA mate!
All the haters will hate the fact this bike is still in great condition after 4 years. Chinese bikes will dominate certain parts of the market soon, especially as more Millenials and Gen Z start buying bikes and aren't prejudice, unlike many Gen X and Boomers.
I agree. I think these bikes are definitely more appealing than the expensive Japanese bikes.
Well its obviously well looked after but for me I would without doubt, spend the 500 quid extra to have the comfort of proper warranty, and the luxury no MOTs for 3 years. Also the first few hundred Miles are critical on these old air-cooled engines, needs a bigger price difference for me.
I agree. I hate taking bikes for MOT’s and I also like knowing that the bike has been looked after from day 1. The only way to 100% know that is to buy new. But for those without the extra money this is a good second option.
Can the electrics stand to be power washed, no one wants water ingress into vital components.
Shouldn't power wash a bike, quickest way to wreck bearings and wiring on any bike known to man
Taffy Harley has more rust than the superlight. . 😂
I thought it was a great comparison 😂😂
Hello sir, Im interested in buying this motorcycle, not if I get a license first, but I have a big dilemma; I live in Scotland -as you know- the weather here is more wilder and colder than in England, I live in a building that has no parking or garage, and just thinking about leaving my hypothetical motorcycle outside every day facing the elements (especially in winter) makes me sad. I don't know if using a motorcycle cover is enough because if I buy this motorcycle I would take care of it like the child I dont want to have. Im looking for an alternative to get around because Im fed up with the bus and giving my money to that dreadful company that is First Bus. The car is not an alternative for me either because where I live (Aberdeen) is one of the most expensive cities in Scotland to have a car and I dont want to throw away a lot of money just for a canned comfort. Im a foreigner living in the UK for 4 years and Im looking for an alternative to have more mobility independence and the idea of a bike really appeals to me but I have many doubts and uncertainty. As I said before, I dont have a garage and I dont know if using a motorcycle cover, greasing the chain and measuring the oil is enough for the bike to survive in these lands. Also the idea of leaving the bike outside at night exposed to drunks and junkies doesnt like at all... but 2 minutes from where I live there is a 24hs police station that has a parking for motorcycles, I dont know if I should consider that something positive in my situation. I apologize in advance for the extension of my comment and I hope you can help me... because if you recommend me not to have the bike because I don't have a garage then I will have no other option than to buy those toy ebikes and accept the ridiculous law of going 15kms with a 250v motor. Thanks for your time and you have a new subscriber.
That’s quite the dilemma you have there. Any bike will show signs of corrosion living outside. A decent cover will help protect it but it won’t stop it all together. You can buy things like ACF50 which I just spray onto the exposed metal bits over the winter. When I bought my first couple of bikes I had to do the same. Just a cover and quite a few locks. It’s doable. It you have bike parking outside the police station I would hope that is a safe place to park it and lock it all up. Do any others do the same there?
I rarely seen motorcycles in the parking of the police station, usually you see patrol cars and cars. I dont want to give up looking for an alternative of movement autonomy and I found one that caught my attention, the Honda Dax 125; I really liked how practical it looks and the size because can fit in a small storage room that exists in my building. What do you think of the Honda Dax? Do you recommend it? Do you have any video about this motorcycle? If I buy it I would like to put wheels more bigger and an exhaust for have more presence on the streets. Kind regards sir.
@PesimistaErudito I’ve not tried a Dax, but I’ve been on a few Honda Monkey bikes which I’m sure has the same engine. But physically a very small bike. I’ve done a review on one recently. That might be even better for you? Here’s the link th-cam.com/video/d9EM4UDuAnM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EQizRDPGXJTav_PO