Lima BR Class 55 Deltic with Tri-ang Mk1 Maroon Coaches
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2020
- A look at the Lima “L205105” BR Class 55 Deltic (c1977-87?) with a rake of Tri-ang Mk1 maroon coaches x2 R.422 Composite’s, R.423 Brake, R.424 Buffet Car, R.425 Full Parcels (C1962-69). This model seems to have great pulling power. The video opens with R.53 Princess & R.31 Tender (mid to late 1950s) with a Blood and Custard coaches R.29 Composite, R.224 Restaurant Car, and R.28 Brake (c1956-62) activating the RT.267 Fog Signal just the once on the way to the Station. All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com
I was bought this for christmas in 1979, by my parents as a full trainset.. I still have it to this day. Love it.
Hi Shane that’s great to hear it must have great memories associated with it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it’s very much appreciated.
Take care.
Oscar
Great to see this loco in action. I have been a fan of Lima locos for years. I have about six of these Deltics, both BR Blue and Green. I always keep one 'as is' but the rest I detail in some way. Like Tri-ang and the early Hornby trains I think they need preserving as part of our hobby's history; indeed, most of my models come from this early era. Once again, great stuff!
Good morning great to hear enjoyed the video. There are some terrific looking models produced by Lima I only have a couple myself so far! This was a massive period of change for the hobby I think when Lima started producing models like this, a fascinating period in the development of modern railways.
Take care.
Oscar
Still have my blue Deltic from a Lima container lift freight set my father bought me in argos 35 years ago, serviced once in that time and still flys round the layout,most of my locos are lima,thanks for sharing oscar.
Hi great to you've had the Blue Deltic all that time and she's still going strong.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
I have had my “Meld” since about 1989. She is missing a buffer and I do need to do a repair to her cab window. But by crickey, what a marvellous model it is. And what a wonderful noise 😎
Hi, Tim, glad you enjoyed the video. I too love sound of these older model's underway.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Great looking locomotive. Just got the same one. Very happy with it. thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Good morning Paul thanks for watching, great to hear you've got these.
Take care.
Oscar
The Lima range was announced in 1976 but it was 77 before they appeared . Typically less expensive than the then Hornby Trains , people forget how well they were received at the time because along with Mainline and Airfix it hugely expanded the number of models available to the OO modeller . 1977 was a very exciting year, the first year I acquired trains that weren’t Hornby .
Hi Russell, I think this must have been a worrying time for Hornby with these detailed models at very competitive prices coming into the market.
Thanks again.
Oscar
A friend brought his Lima Deltic round to try on my garden railway, I have long gradients and newish big engines struggle with any more than 10 coaches his Celtic pulled 16 round and didn't even slow up it hadn't been run for years, we haven't made that much progress if that's anything to go by, thank you for your very interesting site, there are many great memories, unfortunately my old triang Hornby stock wheel flanges are to big for my modern track.
Hi Paul that sounds terrific the Deltic on your garden railway with 16 coaches. Must have a great deal fun as well. I dose seem a shame that your newer models don't perform to that degree, but ten is still quite respectable I think and your right those wheel flanges can be a problem some more than others.
Thanks.
Oscar
Thank you for another perfect Sunday’s viewing. Much appreciated.
Thanks Phillip, its great to hear you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
In the early 1980s, I worked in a Video store in Whitechapel, London. For the Video Camera display, we had a model railway layout based on a Swiss Alps scene which was stunning, however, it had automation with reed switches and magnets attached to the underside of the locos for point switching. The loco eventually failed The problem was it was to mechanically complex and would not run for long before it jammed or tracks became dirty. I simplified it and bought the same Lima Deltic with some Mk 1 stock and ran it on a single loop. This improved reliability and captured well on VHS tape fed from a selection of 10 cameras mounted on tripod mounts. Many customers loved it as the Deltic's were very popular at that time. Traction was a problem so I glued 12x2p pieces together and with the help of double-sided pads mounted the coins onto the weight bar and it ran for very long periods. The shop closed and I wonder what happened to the Lima Deltic and my 24p?
Good afternoon Ian, amazing the difference 24p can make. Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave this great comment.
Oscar
Very nice loco’s , I’ve got a Hornby railroad range St Paddy chassis with a Lima class 55 deltic body , both compatible as the tooling was bought out by Hornby from the old Lima factory in Italy a while ago , still excellent models . I have “ Gordon Highlander “
Hi, sounds like you have some great items in your collection.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Thank you again for sharing your enthusiasm with us.
My pleasure!
Thanks.
Oscar
My favorite BR loco is the Deltic. Thank you for sharing another great video. 😀
Thanks for watching! glad you enjoyed the video,
Oscar
Great to see Meld. I have not ever dismantled the Lima Ringfield. The Meld and Fife Forfar Yomanry both are the same. If you clean the gears and wheels they seem to be fantastic.
Great layout, love it. I have Lima, Tri ang , Airfix and Hornby and I try to keep them running. Presently building my layout so your video has great ideas and your locos etc are smashing. Cheers
Hi, Charlie, great to hear you are enjoying the videos.
Thanks.
Oscar
Thanks for your weekly video, much appreciated. My Lima Meld, bought secondhand more than 30 years ago. It came fitted with an extra steel weight 90 mm x 25 mm x 10 mm thick and weighing 427 grams in total. It is now DCC fitted with a Digitrax DZ126. Its top speed is very high but this can be tamed using DCC settings. Runs well on my layout on code 100 Peco track.
Good morning Robert, it's great to hear you've had the Lima Meld all that time and that it has successfully been converted for DCC.
Oscar
A very powerful looking locomotive, it looks like it runs runs effortlessly with those coaches. Great to see.
Hi defiantly a powerful model.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Great to see a review of a Lima loco Oscar- I had a blue deltic and just like yours it was a brilliant runner- smooth and powerful just like the real thing....
We were all obsessed with Deltics back in the Seventies and no trip to London would be complete without a pilgrimage to Kings Cross to worship the oil stained, throbbing monsters!!!
The Lima model fully captured the character of the real thing and we’d detail ours by chopping off the handrails and use a pin heated on the gas stove to make holes in the nose. We’d then add staples for the new handrails, plus slices of guitar string for the air pipes!!
The loco would then be brush painted in humbrol (sellotape to mask off the yellow ends) and rub down transfers applied of your fave loco.
The best bit was the come- the whole loco would then be painted in Matt Black enamel but before the paint had dried we’d rub most of it off using kitchen towel- leaving the black in the grills and streaked down the noses!!
The end result was just like the real thing (well it was to an obsessed 10 year old!!)
Much more fun than buying the current super detailed models with bits flying off as soon as they hit the first bend!!!
Good morning Ned, great to hear you enjoyed the video and thanks for sharing those terrific detailing tip's. It sounds like you had the most terrific time upgrading your models. Fun is what its all about at any age.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Another very enjoyable video Oscar.
I am a big fan of Lima locos and despite their faults they are good workhorses that go on forever without bits constantly falling off.
Whilst I don't currently have a Deltic in my collection I've had a couple over the years; one blue and one green but both sadly long gone.
I do remember the brass wheels being the very devil to keep clean for any length of time and the weight was simply a lump of mild steel that often came with a huge burr and metal swarf inside the body too.
I look forward to your next video!
Good morning Barney, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment with this great information.
Oscar
Superb video Oscar & Thankyou, it`s so good to see you have a Lima loco in your collection. Your model is from 1977 as I have checked the Ramsay book. Lima locomotives are fantastic, I have well over 200 and they make up around 60% of my locomotive fleet, they are so easy to service and maintain too, I`m lucky to have an endless supply of Lima spares as I bought them all up when my local model shop in Doncaster (D.C.Evans) closed down in the mid 1990`s. I find that the brass pick up that you refer to that makes contact with the axle`s usually wears out and fails before the brushes do!
Regards
Kev.
Good morning Kev, glad you enjoyed the video. Sounds like you have an excellent collection of Lima and the spares to keep them running.
Thanks again for watching and the information.
Oscar
I have this exact model fantastic,smooth powerful model as you mentioned the wheels and pick ups get dirty very quickly but its my favourite.
Good afternoon Peter great to hear you have one, terrific models. They certainly do pick up the dirt. Thanks for watching.
Take care.
Oscar
Great review oscar, I have the same model with the white stripe and small yellow ends for years, runs great never let me down 👍
Hi Ciaran, glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks.
Oascr
Great video Oscar, I've liked the Deltics, Thanks for the hints on the lima model which is helpful as I have a couple of none runners.
Thanks Simon, glad you found the video inserting.
Oscar
Great review Oscar , I remember owning a Hornby Dublo Deltic in the early 60's . ..........Peter
Hi Peter great to hear you've had one of the Hornby Dublo Deltic's. Glad you enjoyed seeing this Lima version in action.
Thank again.
Oscar
Thanks Oscar, a nice variation, I bought "Meld" early this year from my second hand supplier in Stockport, and she's a lovely machine, as you say they don't have the detail and accuracy of some of todays models but Lima captured the feel of the deltic very well, as Triang did with a lot of their diesel loco's, the Lima power units are easy enough to service and run very well if kept clean, extra pick-ups on the none powered bogie would help but as you demonstrated the Deltic looks great with a rake of maroon MK1's, thanks again
Hi Paul, great to hear you have one of these, I think these were built to used and be simple to maintain by the user. A great deal of fun and as you say the look the part.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Here's a surprising video from you, Oscar!
We have a few Lima models in our collection. The Western, GWR railcar and GWR small Prairie are all worth a look. I have, unfortunately, found that the heavy weight can be quite destructive when the model is in the post.
My son requested a Lima class 27 for his birthday. I managed to find a new one! (The previous owner collected, but did not run the models). The model must have been stored 30-ish years, yet ran perfectly from the box (yes I did give it a service afterwards!)
Thank you for this morning's viewing. Excellent as always. Gord :-)
Good morning Gord, I can see how the weight could be problematic in the post! The class 27 sounds like a great find, At present I only have one other Lima model bought at about the same time the BR Black 2-6-0 Crab its missing its front steps and has been weathered and well used before my son and I picked it out at model shop.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Nice old Lima loco I never owned a Deltic until the 2000’s when Bachmann released a green one. Enjoyable video as always Oscar
Glad you enjoyed it.
Oscar
Just recently added onto my personal layout with a proper station, points, a factory, and generally more buildings! Hope I can have a layout like yours someday.
Hi, thats great to hear. I think layouts are always a work in progress and a great deal of fun along the way.
Thank again.
Oscar
Looking very nice, well done
Thanks for the visit.
Oscar
My Sunday morning Tri-ang fix turned out to be a Lima this week. As is often the case I do have one myself but it is in overall blue with yellow end panels. I use it to pull my rake of 7 blue and grey Mk 1's. They are a mix of Tri-ang/Tri-ang Hornby and a Lima restaurant coach. I also have a rake of 8 blue and grey Airfix Mk 2's which are quite heavy but the Deltic has no problem pulling them.A beautifully strong and fast loco. I bought it second hand in 2002 for £25.00
Good morning David, defiantly powerful these models. I had not used it for some time and was really surprised at the performance. I bet the Deltic looks great with those Airfix Mk 2's on the Highland Vally Railway. Back into Tri-ang territory next time.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Great , great , set up you have , takes your mind off the blooming virus for sure !!! Well done !!
Thanks Nigel, glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Hi Oscar , no probs , like a said been looking at your vids for ages , you know your stuff for sure ,,, am no train man myself it's just that my son got me a samsung tablet for my 60th birthday , at the time i was not keen , but soon got the knack , now i love it ! anyway what srarted me off was the e bay , been buying stuff for ages was thinking of setting up a track for my grandson , as i had a hornby dublo 2 rail in 1962 , it had a pullman coach , two marron , and mail coach pulled by a small deltic made of metal , marshall 3 controller , push botton lights and points , goods yard , series 2 plastic platforms , it had the lot !! all in red boxes , i left them at mams when i got married in 1977 , think they got knicked by my brother inlaw , know the prices have gone thro the blooming roof ! soon gave up the idea of building a hornby dublo , cheaper to buy new , but with all this going off , plus ebay has gone nuts ! plus i cannot seem to find anything that is not made in bloomin China ! which do you think may be best to start up with ?? all the best , Nigel ,,
These locomotives are very difficult to find now a days. Nice to see your expanding collection.
It's not that hard, dozens available on ebay: www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=lima+deltic&_sacat=0&_pgn=2
Hi, there are quit a few interesting Lima models available on that well know auction site. Some in very good condition, I may possibly have to add few more...
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Looking good keep posting videos up
Thanks, will do!
Oscar
Great video, I have a lima deltic and have converted it to dcc and replaced the motor with a cd motor. I think lima are awesome models if you on a budget.
Hi, sounds like a great conversion.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
That’s was nice Oscar like myself father and son running trains superb ,hornby railroad Deltic is good compromise is the Bachman is out of some modellers reach it’s the Lima body on a dcc ready chassis
Great post Oscar see you next week mate 👍🏻😊
Hi, yes Ive noticed some of the Bachman models are priced rather high. I've see and heard a lot of good things about models in the railroad range.
Glad you enjoyed the video thanks again for watching.
Oscar
An interesting tidbit about the Lima class 55s, the design work for them began when Lima was still pursuing HO scale for the English market. The decision to change to OO came about in the middle of the development of this loco with the result of that being the chassis/bogies are scaled for HO whilst the body of the loco is to OO scale.
Hi, thanks for watching and the fascinating information. It’s amazing the range that Lima went on to develop.
Oscar
Very nice Oscar I have an old Lima deltic in the two tone green livery
Hi, David thanks for watching. Great to hear you have a Lima Deltic.
Oscar
Thanks for the video very interesting. I am surprised it runs well on your super 4 track.
Hi she seems to run fine on the Super 4, but there is that sound which comes from the centre set of wheel on each bogie. I suspect that as they float the noise is created as they shift position and drop back on the railhead.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
The bare wire is original and my first trainset was a Lima Deltic freight set with 55022. Meld was in the 79 catalogue and Lima changed the gear -train sometime in the mid 80's
Hi, Chris thanks for the information and taking the time to watch.
Oscar
Got mine Xmas 79...still have it
Not to bad for a very late 70's model - as someone has said 1979, might have been 1978 By todays standards very basic and a toy, but back then was pretty modern. Yes, the scale proportions are totally wrong but they managed to capture the 'bulkyness' of the real thing. Mechanically is is what it is, the 3-pole ringfield 'pancake' motors can be made to run very well. And yes, pick ups are one side on the trailing bogie and the opposite side to the traction tyres on the power, so points can be a little jerky at low speed.
The wheelsets themselves were factory chemically blackened. Lima models benefit from replacing the thin wire with something thicker and a more pure conductor. The brush retaining arms are designed to be soft.
Running benefits from equal lenght brushes and springs that exert roughly the same force. Trail and error can be needed when replacing them and bending the retainers back. I used a parallel paintbrush handle so at least was consistent then with the rolling road either press in or lift the arm out to obtain desired running. Bit like the real thing really.
Hi thanks for watching and the information, its hugely appreciated. As you say pretty good for the time.
Oscar
I think Lima did a good job on value for money. The detail on many of their models out done Hornby of the same age, something Hornby have picked up on with their buyout of the brand. Hornby are still producing models based on Lima tooling today though admittedly in the Railroad range. I have four Lima model all of which are DCC converted and they run better than ever, one of which is brand new old stock I got late last year. Their rolling stock is also good and have metal wheels which are very free running, the only down side is the axle length is different from the other manufacturers so wheels can't be swapped out as easily. Another minor point is the 0-6-0 steam loco's have the odd floating centre wheel set that is not connected to the con-rod meaning the wheels can go out of alignment at times.
Good morning Rob, It must have very worrying for Hornby when Lima started producing there 00 range and as you say some of these moulds have lived on with Hornby and into the Railroad range. They do seem to have been great value for money over the years.
Thanks for the information and taking the time to watch.
Oscar
As you say Oscar unusual for your set up but a nice change , don't have Liam items myself but they were known in there day to be a good manufacturer keeping up with the modern traction as and when it appeared in real life. If only they ran a bit better they would have been even better, none the less a nice informative video and enjoyable to thanks.
Regards Paul osman
Thank you Paul, glad you enjoyed the slightly different subject in the video. Lima seems to have tried very hard to with there range of models over the years, some more successful than others. A bit of a challenge for Hornby at the time from what I've been reading.
Oscar
Nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
Oscar
Hi oscar another great video mate I still have two lima class47 locomotives on my layout today I have replaced lima class47 with heljam/Bachmann/ vitrains class47 locomotives ever the last 10 years I did not have a lima class47 locomotives on my layout as I model the British rail west coast main line in the 1980s the lima class55 came out in the late 1970s mate I still run lima dmus on my layout today class117/ 121/156s goodbye for now clive
Good morning, sounds like you've had a few Lima models over the years.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
I know some people don't like them, but I do love the sound and torque of the Ringfields, especially the 5 poles, but even the 3 pole ringfields were impressive.
Your model looks like it could be an 80's version, or the suppressor cap was replaced as that little .047 looks like a newer cap than used in the earlier models.
Good afternoon Brendan and thanks again for watching and the information about the age of the model, much appreciated.
Take care
Oscar
Thanks Oscar. The Lima Deltic was a significant advance in the value performance equation at the time. Lima went from strength to strength in the OO UK marketplace from this early beginning after the "expert" advice that HO British was the way to go was ditched.
1977 introduction I beleive. I happened to have nearby, when watching, a set of Railway Modellers from 1977. In these is the answer to when introduced. The March 1977 issue on page 92 has a revue of the newly introduced Lima Deltic priced at £8.25. On page (vi) Railmail of Watford has them already discounted to £6.99. Also has the Lima J50 at £4.99. £6.99 was also the price they had they Hornby R751 class 37 at in the same ad. The R.060 class 47 having similar power to the Deltic model was £9.75. The 37 is likely to be the older early 1960s bogie design that could give problems with melting brush holders. Simulated bumps for centre wheels too, to my annoyance in later years.
So how many were influence by this pricing and power delivered?
RM also saw the Lima King and OO class 33 as they noted reporting on the 1977 Toy and Hobbies Fair at Birmingham. The bigger news from the fair was the addition to the Palitoy Mainline range of Royal Scots and Class 45. Airfix had their Royal Scot and 14xx Autotank. Jouef launched into OO with a class 40 and scale length Mk 3 coaches. On review were the Airfix big prairie tanks and B set coaches. Also reviewed was the Fleischmann HO scale class 42 Warship at a substantial £34.56. Quite a flood of new models for the time.
These Lima OO scale models also sold well in Australia as Lima had been well established here. Starting with them making, about 1971, a NSWGR 44 class soon followed by a correct re paint into a South Australia 930. A steam outline NSWGR 38 class Pacific had a large market. A bit later a VR S class and repaints to Commonwealth railways GM-12 version and NSWGR 42 class variation. The Indian Pacific passenger cars were scale models not the generic types offered by Hornby from the 1962 Transcontinental range. Some scale freight additions too. All this substantially eroded Hornby's market share here, helped by even lower Lima pricing here for both the HO and OO models. Hornby losing to those going Australian HO and also to Lima OO.
My Lima GM-12 I also have to hand, has a similar mechanism with that bare solid wire electrical connection you asked about. Almost certainly the standard Lima design. I think Lima were clever doing things for pennies what any fool could do for pounds. The definition of an engineer. Lots of the Lima mechs are still going, but can be improved by Marklin higher quality traction tyres and arranging some extra pickup from the wheels. A small firm here offered CD motor replacements for more controllable power and refinement. I was surprised when I found they were located in the next suburb to me.
Hi, John thanks for the information. That was quite a discount Railmail were offering. That motor bogie in the 751's and others could have been so good! and those Railway Modeller's are like time capsules. I used to get them as a child when I could, sadly all gone now with the rest of the railway I had then.
I had no Idea that Lima had served the Australian market so well.
Thanks again fo all the information.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Some of the Lima locomotives from Australia and other smaller markets like Sweden, South Africa, Belgium, Holland and Japan covered to an extent here :
lima-modeltrain-collectors.xobor.de/f9-Locomotives-Locomotori-Locomotive-Lokomotiven.html
However Lima made so much that many items I have seen for regular shop sale in Australia are not covered. eg Japanes Bullet trains, French TGV. My club second hand stall had mid sixties very crude Lima pass through. eg a steam 2-8-0 with just one traction tyered wheelset powered. I think to the only one connected to the cylinders.
Lima's British Outline Ho gauge may be the route cause of some dimensional issues especially the bogie on this and the 50. The 33 appeared first in Ho and its claimed the Deltic was also planned for this scale, the Bogies on this and the 50 certainly seem closer to Ho. Meld however does give a good impression of the Deltic shape wise and as with many early Hornby a green livery often made the models appear less toy like than the self coloured blue with yellow ends. Mikes Movies has some wonderful Lima motor maintenance how to's, often fixing small faults present from production which caused the grinding running noise. The motors and maintenance do vary from model to model and he has covered many of the variations and certainly worth trying before attempting the CD motor replacement route. I believe Hornby produced a railroad version of this model along with many other ex-Lima models so perhaps not such an odd choice after all. I have the blue version of this model acquired as a swap and yet to run, but my earliest memories are of these Triang Hornby maroon mk1's in both BR and LMS branding. Thanks for sharing.
Good afternoon Graham thanks for the great information. I’ve seen a number of Mikes videos. As you say they are very informative.
Stay safe.
Oscar
i dont care about the common snobbery involved when mentioning lima engines.. this looks and sounds great :) its not about cost and value its about enjoyment thats what a lot of modelers have forgotten sadly :) ty for a great video
Great point! these items are all about having fun. And these models I think have brought a lot enjoyment to many over the years.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
My Dad bought me a Meld in the late 70s. 77? Still runs nice
Hi Stephen, thats great to hear you have your original model.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
I have a couple of locos with Ringfield motors and they scream like crazy. Damn autocorrect🤣
Will you ever expand your collection to the early Hornby Thomas and friends range?
Good morning Lettuce Trains, that's an interesting question. At present my collecting interest's lie between the early 1950s to 1980. That covers the early Tri-ang Railways models the Tri-ang Hornby Period and safely into the Hornby Railway's era at about the time they started introduce paint finish's to there models across the range (plus the odd bit of Hornby Dublo, Lima, Playcraft, Jouef). The Thomas and Friends ranges began to appear in the mid to late 80s so at present they do fall outside of my period of interest. However, there was a time when I did not collect anything after 1972 as that seemed a logical point when the Tri-ang Hornby Brand name was dropped and ownership of the companies underwent complicated change's.
So as you see I have moved the goalposts before! They may well move again! but for now 1980...
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. Just bought this model, so interested to see how it performs.
Hi Adrian, glad you found the video interesting.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Oscar, how do you keep your Super-4 track in such great running order? I have to ask, have you ever done a video on track maintenance? Thank you for the continuing stream of interesting videos.
Good afternoon Claire, I have covered track cleaning briefly in past. I've included a link below. I think everyone has there own preferred method. I took a great deal of care preparing the track before putting it down as this stuff is at best about 50 years old, some work is needed as most of it has had a life before. On an ongoing basis I use the track cleaning car with lighter fuel as the fluid and light targeted use of a Peco track rubber when needed. This method works well for me and wheel cleaning I think is very important.
I think perhaps I should cover it again soon in a video.
Thanks again for watching and taking the to comment its hugely appreciated.
Oscar
th-cam.com/video/yIJI7CkmTxc/w-d-xo.html
I have the exact same loco Oscar. Bought it second hand but not very old in 1977, still mint condition now. No trouble with Lima motors unlike the Hornby Ringfield motor. If you Google the head code you can find exactly where that was from and what time on the East Coast Main Line. May I ask what grease you use on the cogs?
Hi, Philip Thanks for the information. Great to hear you have one of these. The grease I have been using is a Woodland Scenics product HL657.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley Thanks Oscar.
BR green and the stripe really work on the Deltics. As they do on the Hymeks. The white window surrounds help too.I wonder if Lima sold their British type Loco's in Italy? I assume not.
I came across Lima collectors seeing Australian Lima locomotives for sale in Italy. Also seen were UK models with the Euro couplers. Likely some shops in Italy would get every main range non collector Lima types.
Hi, it would be interesting to know about that. John has mentioned in the comments others seeing the Lima British locomotive available with euro couplers in Italy.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Good morning John, thanks for the information.
Oscar
From a Lima collectors site a comment from a German based collector of Lima :
As per 1983 (general catalogue):
W = British (Hornby Style) hook & loop coupling
M = 1/76 scale (locomotives only)
In 1983 all models (coaches and freight wagons, too) with British couplings had a "W" behind the item number. Ohter catalogues don't show the "W" even with British couplings. Generally I like the idea to distinguish between the different couplings, as many British models were made with continental couplings for european and overseas markets.
Lots of information but never enough to satisfy our thirst for knowledge on Model Railway topics. Lots of model from all around the world but have seen many Lima items not covered in this website :
lima-modeltrain-collectors.xobor.de/
In answer to the question as to whether British Lima OO was sold in Europe, the following video may confirm that it was :
th-cam.com/video/itS5gjTSaAY/w-d-xo.html
Showing a Lima GWR King and Mk 1 coaches with European couplings for the European markets and others that prefer this coupling. I understand that certain number codes in the long model code on the boxes and in catalogues indicated the scale of the model and the type of couplings fitted.
Hi Oscar ,, i just today received exactly the same that you have there running on your railway that i got from western australia(over 4000k's away). Its in near perfect condition and runs like a clock fpr its age.
Ok so these were made in the late 1970s early 80's but im confused as to something i have noticed with these trains.
I have here a few lima locos and running gear but they have the lima couplers on them yet this one i have here and the one you showed have the hornby D style couplers on them ,, do you know why this is so ? (or anyone for that matter).
Hope you can help.
Cheers from John in Australia.
Hi John great to hear you have one of these, I'm unsure about the couplings. I remember Lima models in the UK having a D style couplers on them as a child here in the UK, the two I own do. They made a massive range of models especially for the European markets in H0 which had different style coupler, maybe they made some of the British outline models with the European style coupling for those markets?
Take care.
Oscar
Hi, Oskar this loko do it LIMA?
Oscar, In answer to the question raised as to whether British Lima OO was sold in Europe, the following video may confirm that it was :
th-cam.com/video/itS5gjTSaAY/w-d-xo.html
Showing a Lima GWR King with European couplings for the European markets and others that prefer this coupling. I understand that certain number codes in the long model code on the boxes and in catalouges indicated the scale of the model and the type of couplings fitted.
The TH-cam channel of Chico Barra has a huge range of models shown and tested. Perhaps none as basic as the following rarely seen Lima early model :
th-cam.com/video/MkpXN6HIdeI/w-d-xo.html
So basic it truly makes any Tri-ang model look like a precision scale model. It does have a sort of lifting safety valve that I have never seen before though.
Lots of high end models on his site too. Proud to see our local AD-60 Garratt upgraded and showcased : th-cam.com/video/dElWmo5oFPI/w-d-xo.html
One of the few model railways that goes to the effort of fitting working catenary like some other highly regarded sites.
Good morning John, thanks for the links, the Garratt looks great in action with smoke and sound, a very interesting channel with a terrific collection. I think that early Lima model with the lifting safety valve is just wonderful.
Thanks again.
Oscar
The wire is original
Thanks for the information.
Safe safe Oscar
Lima Models are Noisy and I owned Class 33 think Name Burma Star
Hi Arran, thanks for the info.
Oscar