Emily Whittington "Middle child syndrome is the feeling of exclusion by middle children (those with one younger and one older sibling).[1] This effect occurs because the first child is more prone to receive privileges and responsibilities (by virtue of being the oldest), while the youngest in the family is generally considered the baby" (Source: Wikipedia.org).
Well I'm the oldest. And that comes with responsibility to the max , being a free babysitter , and the phrase "You NEVER let me do that when I was that age" lol.
I'm the middle child. We basically have to handle things ourselves. We get bossed around by the oldest sibling. Then we have to watch the youngest sibling, because the oldest one is too lazy to do it lol.
She said she may try for another kid , but she still healing from her heath scare remember? She prob still on meds and stuff.. She can't pop the cucci and pop the baby out that easily like some have it.
I'm the youngest child and Adrienne is spot on. Going through photo albums of my family is torture. There's 1,000+ pics of my oldest sister, 300 of my middle brother and three of me...
Yes!! Was just going to comment that, haha. My parents definitely didn't let loose on me, and I definitely didn't get away with everything. If anything, they're harder on me, even if I'm the youngest. It could be because I'm their only daughter though.
You're lucky. I only have one brother but I wish I had at least 2. I'd probably fight with my sister everyday if I had one tbh. Growing up with brothers ensures that no one fucks with you!
+Melissa Evans there it is. I just left a comment about "you" (my baby sister, of 5 children also). She's so freakin spoiled. It's ridiculous! And she's 25.
lol yes I remember this from my own childhood. My grandma was the youngest of six and said her siblings got sooo mad at all the things she got away with, and then grandma continues the tradition and treats her youngest (my uncle) the best, which my mom and her older brother have complained about because every time he whines, he gets his way.
Chile I lovvvvvvvve how appreciative Tamar is of Toni, Toni really paved the way for her and I love how she respects and looks up to her. I LOVE me some Toni, I'm always bumping her joints. lol Love the Braxton's in general !
Yeah, when she cried while telling that story about her brother's dad bringing a Christmas present for her brother, but not her, my heart broke. She probably did have some childhood issues that she was trying to avoid discussing.
I've thought of this every time the ladies open up bc loni never opens up. I always thought she had a traumatizing childhood, like Jesse the cowgirl from "toy story 2"- you know that whole piece where Sarah McLaughlin is singing and Jesse gets abandoned? I think of Loni. I know it's weird hahaha
I'm an only child. I was selfish, slightly manipulative, talked to myself and spoiled when I was younger lol. Being an only child has it perks bc parents have extra money to spend on you. I would die if my parents couldn't get me something bc it was too expensive & they have to save the money for a sibling. LIES!!!! But, I have independence like loni mentioned because I didn't have older siblings to show me the way & w my parents there was a generational gap. I learned alot on my own and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I feel you I was the same way, still am a little lol. Didn't you hate when people found out you where an only child and asked if you wanted a little brother/sister? ummm...no, no I don't
actually i was the only child...although in some part i was spoiled but man i tell you my parent put me straight. well i was more spoiled in my mother family side because she is the youngest child so even if she's a grown woman and have a life of her own, they still take care of her including me and also spoil in my father side because he is the middle child but the first son so it's like all the women and cousin looked up to him so they spoiled mesometimes. but thank God for my stepmum because sometimes she didnt allow for my dad to spoil me too much and which i hated her at first but now i'm grateful and my mum was always strict if she saw me starting to get full of myself. but the only thing you are right about is learning certain things on your own it's true and be independent of yourself.
Those are some beautiful pics of them and their siblings. I have a feeling Loni does not have much of a relationship with her half brother. It felt like a touchy subject to her.
I agree with this, im the oldest of 4 its very very natural. My first instinct is always them and how to make sure they're taken care of, being good, etc.
I'm the 2nd oldest but the oldest girl. My older brother is 4 yrs older than me and 6 older than the next! There is 8 of us. I ran the house. Watched the kids! Had no social life cause my mom night shift rn & dad coached football and basketball. Went to the grocery! Took them to school and picked them up. Got them all to church and bible study. Taught my sisters how to use tampons. I am the most responsible one. I am a teacher now go figure lol I've been doing it my whole life. I'm 23 the youngest is 8.
+BexMostly Man it was rough but it does mold you into who you are in a way. All those responsibilities and schedules I had to keep up with gets stressful. Thats why I don't want kids at all!
Me and my brother are three years apart. I'm the youngest but ppl always think I'm the oldest because I guess I've always been more mature for my age. And I had to step in the older sibling role and help my older brother because he has special needs
It is rough. And although I believe in teaching children strong work ethics and responsibility, I don't think children should assume a parent's role. It's extremely unfair and selfish to put that kind of stress on a child. That's why I would never have more children than I can handle.
+Shayne Carter Amen! I made a promise to myself not to do this to my own if/when I have them. Which means I'm probably only having one and that's if God changes my heart or my significant other begs and pleads.
Im the middle child as well (1 older bro, 1 younger sis) and I definitely flew under the radar lol I wasnt wild (at the time) or anything, I was just very introverted and kept to myself, so often times it felt like my parents didnt even know I was there because my other siblings were more outspoken and "out there" than me. It was difficult at times growing up but I wouldnt have had it any other way. I love being the middle child. And we're all three years apart (Bro=26, Me=23, Sis=20) so we're super close now.
Yea, I'm an introvert (pretty much a bookworm as a kid while my siblings were natural athletes) and I have a "fly-under-the-radar" personality so I enjoyed being a middle child. I don't like attention or people being overly concerned with what I'm doing, so I can do what I please without pressure or excess criticism. My sis is 2 years older, my brother is 3 years younger
It's not cheesy at all, Jeannie. My mom always wanted a sister so she prayed that I would have a sister to keep me company. Her prayer was answered. We are two boys and two girls.
This is a telling video:Thoughts on Tamar. I think her difference is that she has lots of experience with women, via her sisters. When you have those many sisters you don't really have a need for a lot of girlfriends,etc. Not to say she doesn't have any. But she has probably seen a lot her sisters have experienced in relationships and friendships. She can be rude or seem rude because if you ever watch how her sisters and she operate, they all talk at the same time often. And tell it straight no filter. And with Jeanie never had any sisters and is an admitted control freak with her husband and family as the older child. Nothing wrong with either dynamic, but to those watching this can look like Tamar was shading Jeanie when in fact she was being herself. And Jeanie may have been sensitive, not having the experience of this type of friend before. There is a place for acceptance of both types of folks, and I will miss the mix up of personalities. Too bad.
I agree with everything you say 100% I enjoyed the fact that they had different opinions and it could get tense sometimes, which really isn't different from the other talk shows, but you can tell that through their differences they still had a genuine friendship.
You made a very sensible point. I wouldn't say I never saw that way, more that I never really put two and two together. Their backgrounds being so different definitely brought tension but I believe both could have learned from it... Tamar's lesson being that she no longer needs to compete (get loud and interrupt ) to get her point across, let others talk especially when you disagree with them- you're not always right child. And Jeannie's, no need to take Everything to heart, it's ok to take others opinion of you with a grain of salt- everyone won't like/love/understand you right away (or at all) and that's ok. Just Continue to be respectfully assertive. Both can grow, compromise and still be true to self.
E. Khalilah I agree with your comment completely. I always thought they clashed in part because they come from such different backgrounds, but in a way it's also because they both have very competitive, strong personalities where they really want to see things turn out a certain way. When there are two type A personalities in the mix, some conflict is bound to happen.
@6:39-6:41 Jeannie : "....but that's what sisters do and I love that....always...." Adrienne :".....yeah....I love that." This was the sweetest quote from this segment because it was given in such a tender and genuine way.
This is SO true! I'm the oldest and a girl so I had ALL of the responsibilities and all of the strict rules, but my brother is the baby and a boy so he gets away with absolute murder.
I agree with what Adrienne said about the perks of being the youngest. I had to literally beg my parents to do things that other kids could do like have a sleepover or hang out with my friends. I had to beg to get a cellphone at the age of 16 bc they didn't want me to get a job. BUT my sister got whatever she wanted. I am still pissed off bc I went through hell to get what I had bc I had to work for it. My sister can just talk her baby voice and get whatever she wants. I will never be that kind of parent.
Tamera is absolutely right. I don't know how or why it happened but I'm pretty sure I worry about my brothers more than both of my parents put together.
I hate being the oldest I had to spent most of my childhood babysitting or working cause parents are so strict on first born dont wanna buy you nothing no cell phone etc and I basically am very hard on myself now when I make mistakes because my mom was hard on me. I look at how my siblings are raised now and their so lazy and and dysfunctional I feel like parents should be consistent with distributing discipline to All their kids and not allow the oldest to take all the hardship
I'm the youngest and I'm not the wild child, my oldest sister is. I'm more the of the quiet one. Also I used to wear her hand-me-downs when we were younger and my mom used to dress me and my sisters just alike but I'm glad that's over.
I agree, between me and my twin sister. I'm more of the leader, I have to take care of everyone. I'm grounded and has a outgoing side but my twin she grew up wild and still is. she try stuff I never have and like I'm more of a parent where I stay strict and she doesn't like that. she rather do her own thing on her own time and by her own. I rather stay home be a homebody, read articles and sometimes go out but prefer to study and set a good example to our youngest youngest sibling.
+Uinise Pasikala My sister isn't that wild but yeah most of the time, we spend time with our mom even though we do our own thing like hanging out with friends sometimes.
Apart from the hand me downs I feel like this statement is about my life, my middle sister is actually the responsible one, but everything else so true.
I'm an only child. It's nice being the boss, BUT it was very lonely growing up. I wish I would've had a sister. And you don't have to be the baby to get away with everything. lol
Elizabeth Roy it makes you become a loner sometimes, even when you do have friends because you got use to that time of solitude that somehow you get anxiety being around people and part of you are a loner even if you wanna try break that mold.
I hope they're friends in real life still. I'm not sure if tamar is on the outs with loni and jeannie cos I think she invited adrienne to Logan's birthday.
Yeah but Jeannie was out of the country and Loni was busy as well. Loni also posted Logan wishing him a happy birthday. I think Tamar feels like Loni has something to do with her firation and Loni is trying to reach out.
I am the oldest of 4...and I really hate it sometimes.... When we were younger I was always that sibling who had the fault although I didn't do anything. Growing up with 2 brothers isn't easy. My sister came when I was 13...so it was kind of different, BUT she get away with lot of things I didn't. And although I am grown up now it is kind of unfair xD
My sister is the oldest, and my parents got an entire photo shoot arranged for her - there is a large portrait of her that used to hang in the living room, and the picture was even printed on matching coffee mugs!!! Me? No baby shower. No photo shoot. But, I always got gifts on my sister's birthday ☺️☺️☺️!!!
See I don't believe Jeannie would have said that if Tamar was bullying her. Was Tamar overbearing and conflicting with Jeannie on the show? Yes, I truly think it's down to a clash of personalities, Jeannie is head strong and challenges Tamar whereas Tamar is naturally use to taking the spotlight and Jeannie is graceful not to argue but she is definitely an alpha like Tamar. I'm sure it did not make for good TV at the best of times but let's not label people. This is just a suggestion no one knows except the producers at this stage. Blessings all x
This comment is on point. I've been saying that they don't get along because they both have that type A personality. Both of them really want things to go their way, both are control freaks. Times like this I'm so glad I'm more like my girl Adrienne where I don't care what's going on, I just let the wannabe "alpha" females duke it out 😂 The tension is just too much. I could not stand being as controlling as these two are, much as I like them both. Seems exhausting.
+Nomi Dibidi No she actually does have a show, she signed with Steve Harvey's production and now has her own show in the works. Look up her radio interview with Steve Harvey where he announced it!! You Go Glen COCO!!!
As the oldest, I had babysit all the time. Changed a lot of nappies too. When something would happen, I would always be the one held responsible "because your older". It didn't matter that my sis would act like ass, call me names, break my stuff or invade my personal space. For years, I couldn't enjoy eating treats in peace, as my sister would eat her share quickly and then expect me to give her mine too. If I was eating something, and it wasn't enough for both, then she would get it. My parents were very strict with me and my sis got away with a lot of stuff!
I have four siblings and they're all waaaaaayy older than me I'm almost 13 and my siblings are the ages of 42, 39, 34, and 24 so it's pretty much just like being the only child sometimes so I can relate to Loni
Hate being the oldest they expect sooooo much from me and are somewhat strict and the younger ones get pampered like if I was doing that I would have been beat 😂😂 but I get to do more things and my brother gets mad so ha.
In my house... I am the middle child who gets forgotten and gets no attention, the youngest does nothing in the house while the oldest takes all the credit for what the middle child does in the house and gets away with everything
Not all unfortunately. I wish I could say the same for me... I'm the youngest and I had it really bad growing up. Probably because I didn't have my mom and dad around and by the time I was 11 and finally living with my mom she had no idea how to deal with us 5. I'm 34 now and she still struggling with the relationship with us, but I want to think that it makes me a better mom today. I try not to feel sad for the little girl that I was, but some days like today it's a bit difficult and that is ok! Part of life lessons and today I'm writing a better story for my two little girls because of that with more passion. Stay blessed, hugs❤️
I have the same thing, my little brother is 14 years younger than me and he's only 18 months now. So whenever I'm out with him and my mom, I always make sure to acknowledge the fact that he is not my child
The last of three. I got away with alot. I had one or two incidents where I was blamed for things I didn't do. I always feel that my family wants to take care of me (even if I can take care of myself) My boyfriends have always been the eldest of their own family so they take care of me instinctively.
I'm the middle child so I basically am the decoy when my siblings get in trouble. I think when it comes to freedom and independence, the middle child usually gets away with that however my parents being strict and protective, I don't always get to do what I want but I bet if I did something bad, my parents would get over it quickly and not pay too much attention to it as they did with my older sibs. I do however have lots of responsibility. I think each order has its ups and downs.
As a middle child, I just wanna say we just watch the carnage go down and when it get around to who did what, we're just like 'it was them! I've been waiting for you Mum, they've been nothing but trouble!' 😂😂😂😂
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I love when Tamar says "that is Toni thee living legend Braxton" everytime she talks about Toni😊sooo true! I love Toni 😍
I LOVE the way she talks about her sister!!! She seems to be genuinely proud of her!
It's my favourite! She does it all the time.
Their relationship is my favourite!
Toni is not a living legend. Just an overrated singer.
Toni is not a living legend. Just an overrated singer.
does anyone else notice how ironic it is that they didn't even discuss the Middle Child?
😂 always forgotten
Lmfaooo
Prob bc no one on the panel is a middle child.
I meant when Tamar first introduced the topic, she didn't even define the typical qualities of the middle child, only the oldest and youngest.
Emily Whittington "Middle child syndrome is the feeling of exclusion by middle children (those with one younger and one older sibling).[1] This effect occurs because the first child is more prone to receive privileges and responsibilities (by virtue of being the oldest), while the youngest in the family is generally considered the baby" (Source: Wikipedia.org).
i'm the middle child and this segment is fitting because like always, we're forgotten lmao
😂😂 for real
Same here lol
Middle child here but responsibility as the oldest 🙄
I'm the middle but I'm always treated as the youngest because I'm the last girl yet again I'm very caring of everyone
"Don't speak stuff over my life you ain't ready to help out with" 😂😂
A message!
Facts lol
Well I'm the oldest. And that comes with responsibility to the max , being a free babysitter , and the phrase "You NEVER let me do that when I was that age" lol.
Completely relatable!
SOO ACCURATE
Oh the accuracy
yuuuup
yes
I'm the middle child. We basically have to handle things ourselves. We get bossed around by the oldest sibling. Then we have to watch the youngest sibling, because the oldest one is too lazy to do it lol.
So accurate.
oh Jan
omg..you are damn right..middle child end up very independent and rebellious too
omg so true
yep.
and as usual they left the middle child out, we always be forgotten how sad, smh
Right! Lol
I'm saying lol😂
Rigtttt. That didn't even discuss middle child syndrome. Lol
Sucks to be you lol
Tamar: "I hate that Logan is the only child." Well, Tamar, you are the ONLY person that can change that!
true
She has health issues..
+Cassandra Muzik ikr
She said she may try for another kid , but she still healing from her heath scare remember? She prob still on meds and stuff.. She can't pop the cucci and pop the baby out that easily like some have it.
@DAJAH BERRY I honestly think that if Tamar actually wanted another spoiled child she would've already had it by now I mean she's rich rich .
Even when birth order is talked about, the middle child is still forgotten 😪
I love how much Tamar supports her sister. Seems she's very proud
"No sister for you!" lol I love Jeanie, i love them all!
I'm the youngest child and Adrienne is spot on. Going through photo albums of my family is torture. There's 1,000+ pics of my oldest sister, 300 of my middle brother and three of me...
It's ten times worse when your the youngest and the only girl. Not only do they baby you but they're OD protective too
Yes!! Was just going to comment that, haha. My parents definitely didn't let loose on me, and I definitely didn't get away with everything. If anything, they're harder on me, even if I'm the youngest. It could be because I'm their only daughter though.
+Ellen Phetsa yep but it had its perks too. if anyone messed with me I just told my brothers and they would handle it lol
You're lucky. I only have one brother but I wish I had at least 2. I'd probably fight with my sister everyday if I had one tbh. Growing up with brothers ensures that no one fucks with you!
+Dee Jay tuh I fight with my brothers all the time lol but I always wanted a sister to hang with and share clothes with lol
OMG YESSSSSS!
Tamar knows damn well she plays her baby of the fam role well.
Lol Adrienne said about Tamar in the pic "your face says try me not said the Lord" 😂😂😂
Anyone remember when Tamar found some of her clothes and stuff that Towanda stole and she called Towanda a kleptomaniac on Braxton Family Values?😭
I think it’s so cute that Jeannie said she always wanted a sister and now she has a baby daughter 😊
Yeh at least she'll always have a daughter.......❤️
Ahhh Jeezy,🙄😭 can't believe he divorced her!😭
Lol yes I'm the oldest and I have albums up on albums of when I was a baby but my sister who's right after me only has a couple of pictures lol
You don't seem like you are ❗️
Michie Oo Bye
***** you changed your initial statement
Michie Oo Yeah but I changed it before I read your reply. My initial comment was I'm the first of seven but I don't consider myself the leader. So bye
And my reply still stands tho. You can say bye all you want
I'm the baby of 5 children and my older siblings got so upset at my mom because I got away with a lot of stuff lol.
***** Well damn now I don't got it like that lol!
+solstice. Same I'm gonna get house also . My older brother got mad about that lol
+Melissa Evans there it is. I just left a comment about "you" (my baby sister, of 5 children also). She's so freakin spoiled. It's ridiculous! And she's 25.
That's how k feel with my brother, he gets away with soo much. If I were to have done what he's done, I would've gotten beatingssss.
lol yes I remember this from my own childhood. My grandma was the youngest of six and said her siblings got sooo mad at all the things she got away with, and then grandma continues the tradition and treats her youngest (my uncle) the best, which my mom and her older brother have complained about because every time he whines, he gets his way.
6:06 Jeannie accent kills me 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Jeannie makes me laugh when she says "Whai people" (white people)
Chile I lovvvvvvvve how appreciative Tamar is of Toni, Toni really paved the way for her and I love how she respects and looks up to her.
I LOVE me some Toni, I'm always bumping her joints. lol Love the Braxton's in general !
Loni was awfully quiet during this segment. It seems like she has some repressed childhood memories that she still needs to deal with.
I was literally just thinking this. She NEVER contributes to the conversation unless they ask her what are her thoughts
Yeah, when she cried while telling that story about her brother's dad bringing a Christmas present for her brother, but not her, my heart broke. She probably did have some childhood issues that she was trying to avoid discussing.
Girl...she's just trying not to spill the tea about Tamar.
I've thought of this every time the ladies open up bc loni never opens up. I always thought she had a traumatizing childhood, like Jesse the cowgirl from "toy story 2"- you know that whole piece where Sarah McLaughlin is singing and Jesse gets abandoned? I think of Loni. I know it's weird hahaha
+peanutjelly Yeah doesn't it seem like many comedians have dark pasts? I feel like they use their humor to deal with the pain.
I just ended my relationship with my BF of 2 years and this show is keeping me together @ work.... thank God for these ladies! God Bless!
I hope you are still happy that you aren't with your ex! Unless you got back together 🤣
I'm an only child. I was selfish, slightly manipulative, talked to myself and spoiled when I was younger lol. Being an only child has it perks bc parents have extra money to spend on you. I would die if my parents couldn't get me something bc it was too expensive & they have to save the money for a sibling. LIES!!!! But, I have independence like loni mentioned because I didn't have older siblings to show me the way & w my parents there was a generational gap. I learned alot on my own and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I feel you I was the same way, still am a little lol. Didn't you hate when people found out you where an only child and asked if you wanted a little brother/sister? ummm...no, no I don't
Flor Marie Mota Rojas right, lmao.
#OnlyChildUnited I love it
actually i was the only child...although in some part i was spoiled but man i tell you my parent put me straight. well i was more spoiled in my mother family side because she is the youngest child so even if she's a grown woman and have a life of her own, they still take care of her including me and also spoil in my father side because he is the middle child but the first son so it's like all the women and cousin looked up to him so they spoiled mesometimes. but thank God for my stepmum because sometimes she didnt allow for my dad to spoil me too much and which i hated her at first but now i'm grateful and my mum was always strict if she saw me starting to get full of myself. but the only thing you are right about is learning certain things on your own it's true and be independent of yourself.
This was a lot of truth wow lol.
I loved this segment, so much harmony.
God I'm gonna miss this dynamic
Me too! They ruined the show by letting go of Tamar. The way these ladies all interacted is what made the show for me. Oh well.
Those are some beautiful pics of them and their siblings. I have a feeling Loni does not have much of a relationship with her half brother. It felt like a touchy subject to her.
+Esther Grace The first few shows we thought Tamera was gonna have a hard time finding her voice but she found it. I feel like Loni lost hers...:(
I agree with this, im the oldest of 4 its very very natural. My first instinct is always them and how to make sure they're taken care of, being good, etc.
so true.
I'm the 2nd oldest but the oldest girl. My older brother is 4 yrs older than me and 6 older than the next! There is 8 of us. I ran the house. Watched the kids! Had no social life cause my mom night shift rn & dad coached football and basketball. Went to the grocery! Took them to school and picked them up. Got them all to church and bible study. Taught my sisters how to use tampons. I am the most responsible one. I am a teacher now go figure lol I've been doing it my whole life. I'm 23 the youngest is 8.
+BexMostly Man it was rough but it does mold you into who you are in a way. All those responsibilities and schedules I had to keep up with gets stressful. Thats why I don't want kids at all!
Me and my brother are three years apart. I'm the youngest but ppl always think I'm the oldest because I guess I've always been more mature for my age. And I had to step in the older sibling role and help my older brother because he has special needs
It is rough. And although I believe in teaching children strong work ethics and responsibility, I don't think children should assume a parent's role. It's extremely unfair and selfish to put that kind of stress on a child. That's why I would never have more children than I can handle.
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+Shayne Carter Amen! I made a promise to myself not to do this to my own if/when I have them. Which means I'm probably only having one and that's if God changes my heart or my significant other begs and pleads.
I'm a middle child (1 older sis, 1 younger bro) and I love it. I've gotten away with a lot b/c no one is really paying attention lol
im a middle child, it sucks. black sheep, left out, blamed for everything..
oh and 7 kids smh
Im the middle child as well (1 older bro, 1 younger sis) and I definitely flew under the radar lol I wasnt wild (at the time) or anything, I was just very introverted and kept to myself, so often times it felt like my parents didnt even know I was there because my other siblings were more outspoken and "out there" than me. It was difficult at times growing up but I wouldnt have had it any other way. I love being the middle child. And we're all three years apart (Bro=26, Me=23, Sis=20) so we're super close now.
Yea, I'm an introvert (pretty much a bookworm as a kid while my siblings were natural athletes) and I have a "fly-under-the-radar" personality so I enjoyed being a middle child. I don't like attention or people being overly concerned with what I'm doing, so I can do what I please without pressure or excess criticism. My sis is 2 years older, my brother is 3 years younger
Haha I am a middle child too. But I act more as the oldest n my older sister acts as if she is the youngest in the family. lol
As a middle child I can say we are the forgotten and ignored ones.
4:39 Adrienne had me dying 😂😂😂 wen she said "it ain't right'' and her facial expression
It's not cheesy at all, Jeannie. My mom always wanted a sister so she prayed that I would have a sister to keep me company. Her prayer was answered. We are two boys and two girls.
This is a telling video:Thoughts on Tamar. I think her difference is that she has lots of experience with women, via her sisters. When you have those many sisters you don't really have a need for a lot of girlfriends,etc. Not to say she doesn't have any. But she has probably seen a lot her sisters have experienced in relationships and friendships. She can be rude or seem rude because if you ever watch how her sisters and she operate, they all talk at the same time often. And tell it straight no filter. And with Jeanie never had any sisters and is an admitted control freak with her husband and family as the older child. Nothing wrong with either dynamic, but to those watching this can look like Tamar was shading Jeanie when in fact she was being herself. And Jeanie may have been sensitive, not having the experience of this type of friend before. There is a place for acceptance of both types of folks, and I will miss the mix up of personalities. Too bad.
I agree with everything you say 100% I enjoyed the fact that they had different opinions and it could get tense sometimes, which really isn't different from the other talk shows, but you can tell that through their differences they still had a genuine friendship.
You made a very sensible point. I wouldn't say I never saw that way, more that I never really put two and two together. Their backgrounds being so different definitely brought tension but I believe both could have learned from it... Tamar's lesson being that she no longer needs to compete (get loud and interrupt ) to get her point across, let others talk especially when you disagree with them- you're not always right child. And Jeannie's, no need to take Everything to heart, it's ok to take others opinion of you with a grain of salt- everyone won't like/love/understand you right away (or at all) and that's ok. Just Continue to be respectfully assertive. Both can grow, compromise and still be true to self.
E. Khalilah I agree with your comment completely. I always thought they clashed in part because they come from such different backgrounds, but in a way it's also because they both have very competitive, strong personalities where they really want to see things turn out a certain way. When there are two type A personalities in the mix, some conflict is bound to happen.
I know this old but this comment is great. You summed up what so many people failed to realize
It's weird knowing these episodes were taped so long ago, I feel like talk shows should be filmed 2-3 days prior to airing
@6:39-6:41 Jeannie : "....but that's what sisters do and I love that....always...."
Adrienne :".....yeah....I love that." This was the sweetest quote from this segment because it was given in such a tender and genuine way.
*”NO SISTA FO YOU!”* Jeannie 😂😂😂
This is SO true! I'm the oldest and a girl so I had ALL of the responsibilities and all of the strict rules, but my brother is the baby and a boy so he gets away with absolute murder.
I agree with what Adrienne said about the perks of being the youngest. I had to literally beg my parents to do things that other kids could do like have a sleepover or hang out with my friends. I had to beg to get a cellphone at the age of 16 bc they didn't want me to get a job. BUT my sister got whatever she wanted. I am still pissed off bc I went through hell to get what I had bc I had to work for it. My sister can just talk her baby voice and get whatever she wants. I will never be that kind of parent.
Common now Tamar, you know damn too well that you ARE the epitome of the baby of the family!
Tamera is absolutely right. I don't know how or why it happened but I'm pretty sure I worry about my brothers more than both of my parents put together.
I am ❤️ing Loni's shade toward Tamar!😂
"Whatchu mean!" followed by the annoying whine. "Look at your face. Look at that face" lmao😂
I hate being the oldest I had to spent most of my childhood babysitting or working cause parents are so strict on first born dont wanna buy you nothing no cell phone etc and I basically am very hard on myself now when I make mistakes because my mom was hard on me. I look at how my siblings are raised now and their so lazy and and dysfunctional I feel like parents should be consistent with distributing discipline to All their kids and not allow the oldest to take all the hardship
i feel you 10000%!
hahahahaha I am the youngest sibling one sister and one brother
hahahahaha I am the youngest sibling one sister and one brother
YES!! I am an eldest. I ended up HATING the female parent. She was horrrrribbble!
+Pretty Candy so you hate your mom??
Tamar is LIFE. That girl can do anything, people!
I loved when loni did her makeup like this she looks so beautiful
Yeah I'm the oldest and that sounds about right with what Jeannie and Tamera said
Adrienne saying "no way" so happily like she has never heard of a twin being born 2 minutes apart 😩😩. Honey, that's so normal
I think she said no way because she didn't think Tamera was older. I was surprised too even though they are twins
+DeathGodPain96 oh please, this is not the first time Tamera has said she was older by 2 mins
First time I heard it. I really thought Tia was older.
+Michie Oo First time I hard she was older..she said they were two minutes apart before but didnt say she was the older one.
This makes me so sad that Tamar is out :(
I know right!
me too 😣
Glad she is long gone. Bye! She triiiiied it
I'm the youngest and I'm not the wild child, my oldest sister is. I'm more the of the quiet one. Also I used to wear her hand-me-downs when we were younger and my mom used to dress me and my sisters just alike but I'm glad that's over.
I agree, between me and my twin sister. I'm more of the leader, I have to take care of everyone. I'm grounded and has a outgoing side but my twin she grew up wild and still is. she try stuff I never have and like I'm more of a parent where I stay strict and she doesn't like that. she rather do her own thing on her own time and by her own. I rather stay home be a homebody, read articles and sometimes go out but prefer to study and set a good example to our youngest youngest sibling.
+solstice. Right and Thanks to my mom, me and my oldest sister have a similar sense of style but we don't dress alike most of the time.
+Uinise Pasikala My sister isn't that wild but yeah most of the time, we spend time with our mom even though we do our own thing like hanging out with friends sometimes.
Apart from the hand me downs I feel like this statement is about my life, my middle sister is actually the responsible one, but everything else so true.
Tamar had me cracking up. Adrienne's sister looks like a Spanish Liz Gillies
I'm an only child. It's nice being the boss, BUT it was very lonely growing up. I wish I would've had a sister. And you don't have to be the baby to get away with everything. lol
it was wasnt it? even if you have cousins but the people you see were your parents.
Yh same it get real lonely at times
Elizabeth Roy it makes you become a loner sometimes, even when you do have friends because you got use to that time of solitude that somehow you get anxiety being around people and part of you are a loner even if you wanna try break that mold.
Jeanie looked a little bothered when Adrienne said “I ain’t giving her shirt back either “ 😂
But did you see Adrienne’s face when Jeanie was like “ she wore it 4 different times !! 6:30 lmaoooo 😭😩🤣😭😭😭😭🤣
that choker choking adrienne 😩😩
I hope they're friends in real life still. I'm not sure if tamar is on the outs with loni and jeannie cos I think she invited adrienne to Logan's birthday.
+You Tried It! What she do?
Yeah but Jeannie was out of the country and Loni was busy as well. Loni also posted Logan wishing him a happy birthday. I think Tamar feels like Loni has something to do with her firation and Loni is trying to reach out.
+Amiemie Ya OK Wendy Williams *firatation* 😂😂😂
+Amiemie Ya Tamera and Adrienne were there. Loni needs to leave Tamar alone and accept she threw the friendship away by backstabbing Tamar.
but how did Loni back-stab Tamar?
As soon as someone mentions Tamar having another child she's like "Hold up cuz...." lol
I am the oldest of 4...and I really hate it sometimes.... When we were younger I was always that sibling who had the fault although I didn't do anything. Growing up with 2 brothers isn't easy. My sister came when I was 13...so it was kind of different, BUT she get away with lot of things I didn't. And although I am grown up now it is kind of unfair xD
My brother was the wild child and I'm the one who is 20 and never gone to a party in my life. ( my brother is the oldest)
Maybe because you are a female
Jeannie and Tamera look gorgeous! Jeannie seems to be closer to Adrienne than the rest, love their bond.
Toni looks amazing for her age! So beautiful!
When tamar said the legendary toni braxton and no one clapped she cut her eyes at the audience so quick lmaaao
My sister is the oldest, and my parents got an entire photo shoot arranged for her - there is a large portrait of her that used to hang in the living room, and the picture was even printed on matching coffee mugs!!! Me? No baby shower. No photo shoot. But, I always got gifts on my sister's birthday ☺️☺️☺️!!!
See I don't believe Jeannie would have said that if Tamar was bullying her. Was Tamar overbearing and conflicting with Jeannie on the show? Yes, I truly think it's down to a clash of personalities, Jeannie is head strong and challenges Tamar whereas Tamar is naturally use to taking the spotlight and Jeannie is graceful not to argue but she is definitely an alpha like Tamar. I'm sure it did not make for good TV at the best of times but let's not label people. This is just a suggestion no one knows except the producers at this stage. Blessings all x
+Chelsea Harris ☺️
This comment is on point. I've been saying that they don't get along because they both have that type A personality. Both of them really want things to go their way, both are control freaks. Times like this I'm so glad I'm more like my girl Adrienne where I don't care what's going on, I just let the wannabe "alpha" females duke it out 😂 The tension is just too much. I could not stand being as controlling as these two are, much as I like them both. Seems exhausting.
+Helena 👏
I love this show.They are so real.Wish I could meet them all some day.
Ooh I'm early! No comments about Tamar yet
There really shouldn't be. It's time to move on. She has her own show now. I'm happy for her. #shewon #thereal'sloss
+RoyalMasterpiece doubt it but okay #sheaintwintho
+Nomi Dibidi No she actually does have a show, she signed with Steve Harvey's production and now has her own show in the works. Look up her radio interview with Steve Harvey where he announced it!! You Go Glen COCO!!!
Lmmfao at the Glen COCO. That was my favorite part on Mean Girls lmao
As the oldest, I had babysit all the time. Changed a lot of nappies too. When something would happen, I would always be the one held responsible "because your older". It didn't matter that my sis would act like ass, call me names, break my stuff or invade my personal space.
For years, I couldn't enjoy eating treats in peace, as my sister would eat her share quickly and then expect me to give her mine too.
If I was eating something, and it wasn't enough for both, then she would get it.
My parents were very strict with me and my sis got away with a lot of stuff!
literally the story of my lofe. It's tough being the oldest child
I have four siblings and they're all waaaaaayy older than me I'm almost 13 and my siblings are the ages of 42, 39, 34, and 24 so it's pretty much just like being the only child sometimes so I can relate to Loni
"No sister for you" 😭 gets me everytime
Hate being the oldest they expect sooooo much from me and are somewhat strict and the younger ones get pampered like if I was doing that I would have been beat 😂😂 but I get to do more things and my brother gets mad so ha.
In my house... I am the middle child who gets forgotten and gets no attention, the youngest does nothing in the house while the oldest takes all the credit for what the middle child does in the house and gets away with everything
Only one girl chat video today?
potato
So agree with Adrienne. Got my first phone at 13 and my brother was 10 and he got a phone too. Oh my other brother was 3 and got a tablet. Was so mad
loni seems like the loneliest person. she tries to shield it by being "funny"
1:12, you can just tell tears were about to come lol!
I'm like loni because my brother is 7 years older than me. So instead of a brother he's like another dad.
yassss Adrienne!!!! I never got any pictures. my brother has more than enough
I'm the baby and yes we do get away with a lot lol
Not all unfortunately. I wish I could say the same for me... I'm the youngest and I had it really bad growing up. Probably because I didn't have my mom and dad around and by the time I was 11 and finally living with my mom she had no idea how to deal with us 5. I'm 34 now and she still struggling with the relationship with us, but I want to think that it makes me a better mom today. I try not to feel sad for the little girl that I was, but some days like today it's a bit difficult and that is ok! Part of life lessons and today I'm writing a better story for my two little girls because of that with more passion. Stay blessed, hugs❤️
Adrienne, these "babies" GET AWAY WITH MURDER!! And I'm so OVER IT! For a good week now, this issue has been talked about in my family.
I'm a whole decade and a half older than my little sister. people think she's my daughter when we go out
same with me except I'm 20 years older then my youngest sibling and she looks just like me so people think she's my child.
I have 3 sisters I'm the only guy and both my older siblings are 17/18 years older than me. I have a younger sister that's 3 years younger.
I have the same thing, my little brother is 14 years younger than me and he's only 18 months now. So whenever I'm out with him and my mom, I always make sure to acknowledge the fact that he is not my child
i’m the middle child! my siblings say that i was my moms favorite. Not true. i just spent more time with her.
Guys is it me: Adreinne is SOOO beat these days.
She is positively glowing. Like everytime I looked at her face during this segment she just dazzled. (Her sister is prettier though, overall.)
Jeannie said the best four sisters. Bless her heart!
Why are they acting like Tamera doesn't have other siblings, in which she is the oldest..
What?
+Thurnis Haley she did mention him
She said that she cares for her whole family. So its presumed that yes she is talking about her brothers
And once again, the middle child has been forgotten... Story of my life😂😂😂🌚
Am I the only one who didn't want a sister growing up? 😂
I was glad with one brother, no sharing at all lol
The last of three. I got away with alot. I had one or two incidents where I was blamed for things I didn't do. I always feel that my family wants to take care of me (even if I can take care of myself) My boyfriends have always been the eldest of their own family so they take care of me instinctively.
Awww Jeannie !
Not Loni saying, "What you mean?" to Tamar like she would to them😂😂😂 @0:07
Tamar is the baby and acts like it
I'm the middle child so I basically am the decoy when my siblings get in trouble. I think when it comes to freedom and independence, the middle child usually gets away with that however my parents being strict and protective, I don't always get to do what I want but I bet if I did something bad, my parents would get over it quickly and not pay too much attention to it as they did with my older sibs. I do however have lots of responsibility. I think each order has its ups and downs.
jeannie's hair 😍😍😍
Adrienne was hilarious "your face says tryith me not sayth the lord"🤣🤣🤣
I'm exactly like Tamera and Jeannie. I'm the oldest of 4 and I'm like the second mommy
I am the youngest, my older sisters feel a sense responsibility towards.. When I was younger, my head was in the clouds..
I do know that when you are the older sibling (cuz I am the older one) you are obligated to grow up a little faster.
I'm here for Tamar 😍❤️😍
in Psychology I learned that after five years of separation between siblings it starts all over the cycle of older sibling being the leader
Tamara has the best hairline
As a middle child, I just wanna say we just watch the carnage go down and when it get around to who did what, we're just like 'it was them! I've been waiting for you Mum, they've been nothing but trouble!' 😂😂😂😂
"go get your second hole"
m kay ma
Watching this 2 years later but I’m the oldest girl with 2 younger brothers😭
Don't speak stuff over my life that you ain't ready to help me out with! That's right. I need that on a tee shirt. For real though.
Jeannie-No that young buck on the right Daniel! A whole lot of trouble!
😆!