Descended through a cloud deck, in IMC maybe ten minutes in a fast Mooney 201. Landed Lake Tahoe - 1/2 inch of ice on the leading edges. Getting into icing conditions is no joke and requires immediate action to prevent an accident. Remember the Roselawn IND AT-72 crash years ago...the place was fully equipped for icing conditions, except the ice that day was supercooled ice droplets that quickly overwhelmed the aircraft AND revealed a design flaw that allowed it to accumulate ice BEHIND the protected leading edge of the wings that built up to a point that one wing stalled, and threw the aircraft out of control. They hit the ground at 375 kts.
We fly a G2 SR-22 with TKS only. It's great peace of mind but living up north, we still can't fly 4+ months out of the year so naturally I'm considering a FIKI upgrade. Hoping the new G7 Cirrus puts some downward pressure on G5 and G6 prices!
I'm sure it will. I recently sold this plane and ordered a new G7. I've already got offered a newer G6 with less hours than mine for less money than what we sold it for.
Great video I liked the the speed up in some parts, handled the flight like a professional, wonder why many GA pilots come low after catching the VASI?
When you’re doing your pre flight planning just wondering if you ever consider when in the ice what if the engine quit? What’s your thoughts? Cirrus is a very capable IFR aircraft but still only a single engine. Not sure if I’d Plan on being in the ice in any piston single for a climb.
Even if Cirrus has FIKI, it’s not meant to be in the ice. When I plan, i always plan an “out”. On this leg I knew we will be punching through a relatively mild layer to get on top of the layers. It was only for a short duration hence we made a go decision.
Love your content. Having a certified FIKI aircraft is something I would love - I've had to cancel quite a few Angel Flight missions during winter Down Under because of forecast icing.
I was IFR on top , got vectored into the soup ,entered the ILS with some pucker factor . My 172 was covered. 10 more minutes I might have made a new runway . On the way outwent through quickly , no problem .
Great video. Merry Christmas. I have about 80 hours in an sr22 and a sr20. I need to finish getting my license and prefer a 20. Where would you recommend training for ppl? I don’t mind the older pre g1000 either. Thanks. My local school lost their cirrus.
I would recommend an honest plane like the C172 for your PPL. C172 is not glamorous, but it’s built like a tank…it better have a hard landing (aka controlled crashes) on the school’s C172 than your Cirrus. If you can get one with a G1000, it will help with future transition to the Cirrus avionics. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
If you live in the Northeast US or any other cold area you basically would have to cancel any flights with a cloud in the sky if you didn't have this equipment. Basically vfr only for the winter. Depending on your use for the plane as long as it's capable and the pilot is proficient with the equipment it can be safely done. And just so you know the fiki system is more to get out of ice such as transitioning layers than to fly in it. The system is excellent.
Amazing video. I’ve flown with a friend multiple times but do not have my license. What advice would you give someone in my shoes who plans on purchasing a sr22 someday. Any specific training to focus on for this type of plane?
Please focus on the basics and get your license first. Do it in an honest plane i.e. C172 or Piper. Once you have your private, then jump on your instrument rating. Training in a Cirrus SR22 (or even the 20) is like learning to drive in a Ferrari. You should also consider joining COPA (Cirrus Owner's & Pilot's Association). Any questions feel free to reach me on IG (same name). Happy Holidays!
We actually did look into the G36. I think it’s a better built plane, however, much to our surprise it’s actually slower and has less useful load than the SR22.
@@SlowAsianDriver Well that's good to know. My older A36 has more useful load than the newer G's. But we don't have AC. I love the BO. Double doors. Beech just doesn't do the marketing right like Cirrus does, they want to sell King airs and jets. Which I have flown too. Just be super careful in the ice, please.
I have 200 hours in a SR22 and that's all I fly now, I do not believe it's a good training or beginner airplane. As others have said a Cessna 152 or 172 or the equivalent pipers is the way to start.
Freezing rain and wet snow, is a hard no. It comes down to what type of freezing layer(s) you have above. If SLD is in the forecast it's best to stay put.
Descended through a cloud deck, in IMC maybe ten minutes in a fast Mooney 201. Landed Lake Tahoe - 1/2 inch of ice on the leading edges. Getting into icing conditions is no joke and requires immediate action to prevent an accident. Remember the Roselawn IND AT-72 crash years ago...the place was fully equipped for icing conditions, except the ice that day was supercooled ice droplets that quickly overwhelmed the aircraft AND revealed a design flaw that allowed it to accumulate ice BEHIND the protected leading edge of the wings that built up to a point that one wing stalled, and threw the aircraft out of control. They hit the ground at 375 kts.
Great flight! Love your guys attention to procedures and safety
Thanks! 👍
Great job and video, glad you made it safely through the ice!
Thanks! The FIKI System worked great!
Great radio work, you sound like a pro.
Thanks bill!
Excellent job editing and flight. Thanks for sharing
Thank you very much!
Excellent videos. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you like them!
Great flight , gotta love those FIKI birds . well done .. Merry Christmas , hopefully in 2023 we can set up a TH-cam flight ..
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
We fly a G2 SR-22 with TKS only. It's great peace of mind but living up north, we still can't fly 4+ months out of the year so naturally I'm considering a FIKI upgrade. Hoping the new G7 Cirrus puts some downward pressure on G5 and G6 prices!
I'm sure it will. I recently sold this plane and ordered a new G7. I've already got offered a newer G6 with less hours than mine for less money than what we sold it for.
Thanks! Merry Christmas to you and your family!🎄
Merry Christmas to you and family Randy! ✌️
Nice IWC 😄 great video!
Thanks pal! Nice to see a fellow pilot and horological. 🤙✌️
Just found your handle today. Great content and awesome video, merry Christmas !!
Thanks Luis! Happy Holidays to you and your family!
Love your vids. I flew 238RS thru icing fIKi. Nothing but adrenalin.
Thanks pal!
Great video I liked the the speed up in some parts, handled the flight like a professional, wonder why many GA pilots come low after catching the VASI?
Good stuff.
Thanks!
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it.
When you’re doing your pre flight planning just wondering if you ever consider when in the ice what if the engine quit? What’s your thoughts? Cirrus is a very capable IFR aircraft but still only a single engine. Not sure if I’d Plan on being in the ice in any piston single for a climb.
Even if Cirrus has FIKI, it’s not meant to be in the ice. When I plan, i always plan an “out”. On this leg I knew we will be punching through a relatively mild layer to get on top of the layers. It was only for a short duration hence we made a go decision.
Love your content. Having a certified FIKI aircraft is something I would love - I've had to cancel quite a few Angel Flight missions during winter Down Under because of forecast icing.
Thanks pal!
I was IFR on top , got vectored into the soup ,entered the ILS with some pucker factor . My 172 was covered. 10 more minutes I might have made a new runway . On the way outwent through quickly , no problem .
🤙✌️💪
Did the job, got through it, and nothin' to it!
FIKI on the rocks. Shaken, not stirred.
FIKI works great, however, I always prepare for an “Out”.
I’m an instrument student. Great videos
Thanks and good luck with your training.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Enjoyed your video and am learning everyday. Hope we can meet up in 2023. Regards Ajit Mahida
Merry Christmas to you and family!
Great video. Merry Christmas. I have about 80 hours in an sr22 and a sr20. I need to finish getting my license and prefer a 20. Where would you recommend training for ppl? I don’t mind the older pre g1000 either. Thanks. My local school lost their cirrus.
I would recommend an honest plane like the C172 for your PPL. C172 is not glamorous, but it’s built like a tank…it better have a hard landing (aka controlled crashes) on the school’s C172 than your Cirrus. If you can get one with a G1000, it will help with future transition to the Cirrus avionics.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
Nice video - is ‘high’ anti-ice setting necessary for the amount of ice you were getting you think?
Looking back…not necessary at all. This was my first time PIC in icing conditions, I didn’t know what to expect and i just wanna play it safe.
Amen to that brother….was just curious
Once again, you have class. Merry Christmas!
Thanks and Happy Holiday to you and family!
I don't understand why you would fly into known icing conditions.
b/c the plane is FIKI (Flight Into Known Icing) equipped.
If you live in the Northeast US or any other cold area you basically would have to cancel any flights with a cloud in the sky if you didn't have this equipment. Basically vfr only for the winter. Depending on your use for the plane as long as it's capable and the pilot is proficient with the equipment it can be safely done. And just so you know the fiki system is more to get out of ice such as transitioning layers than to fly in it. The system is excellent.
Awesome video! How long does a tank of TKS last?
8 Gal of TKS fluid will last about 2.5 hrs in normal mode.
Hopefully I get my partners on board and I can avoid getting bumped from Nassau flyers and get my owner SR22
Feel free to hit me up on IG and let’s grab lunch. My office is 5 min from the airport.
@@SlowAsianDriver will do. I'm on 110 in Melville myself.
Amazing video. I’ve flown with a friend multiple times but do not have my license. What advice would you give someone in my shoes who plans on purchasing a sr22 someday. Any specific training to focus on for this type of plane?
Please focus on the basics and get your license first. Do it in an honest plane i.e. C172 or Piper. Once you have your private, then jump on your instrument rating. Training in a Cirrus SR22 (or even the 20) is like learning to drive in a Ferrari. You should also consider joining COPA (Cirrus Owner's & Pilot's Association). Any questions feel free to reach me on IG (same name). Happy Holidays!
Buy a Beechcraft
We actually did look into the G36. I think it’s a better built plane, however, much to our surprise it’s actually slower and has less useful load than the SR22.
@@SlowAsianDriver Well that's good to know. My older A36 has more useful load than the newer G's. But we don't have AC. I love the BO. Double doors. Beech just doesn't do the marketing right like Cirrus does, they want to sell King airs and jets. Which I have flown too. Just be super careful in the ice, please.
I have 200 hours in a SR22 and that's all I fly now, I do not believe it's a good training or beginner airplane. As others have said a Cessna 152 or 172 or the equivalent pipers is the way to start.
Like your screen name
Thx :)
Am curious what are the capabilities of it, like can you depart in snow or freezing rain?
Freezing rain and wet snow, is a hard no. It comes down to what type of freezing layer(s) you have above. If SLD is in the forecast it's best to stay put.