Rachel Oates SPEAKS OUT on Gabbie Hanna LIES | Exclusive Interview

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    5 years ago, Rachel Oates made a video critique of Gabbie Hanna's poetry book, Adultolescence. She then went on to review her second poetry book, Dandelion. Years later, Gabbie Hanna attacked Rachel Oates in a slew of tweets and Instagram stories. And though Gabbie has since made a video apology, Rachel is one of the people she hasn't said sorry to, despite the fact that Gabbie was recently trashing Rachel in an interview with Oxford University.
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  • @VangelinaSkov
    @VangelinaSkov  หลายเดือนก่อน +62

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    • @justanotherpiccplayer3511
      @justanotherpiccplayer3511 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Lmao friendly reminder to myself that I need to back ur book 😂 how long have we got?

    • @adamlowe8822
      @adamlowe8822 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You seem awfully silent on Keffals since that one video on her

  • @sylviafrida819
    @sylviafrida819 หลายเดือนก่อน +905

    "I don't care about her opinion"
    Proceeds to obsess over it for 5 years

    • @yorusoka2341
      @yorusoka2341 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blueismylove3128 An?

    • @blueismylove3128
      @blueismylove3128 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yorusoka2341 Lol, dude idk

    • @D_YellowMadness
      @D_YellowMadness หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      She's the sequel to Yanderedev.

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She must doing that 'in love' thing.
      Or she's jealous.
      Maybe both. To quote the one lass from Horizon Forbidden West - "Turns out there's a fine line between love and hate."

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      not a fan of gabbi at all but rachel clearly displayed LOW SOCIAL IQ to receive a book and denounce it.
      Sure if it was trash & you have any social etiquette you'd keep it to yourself.
      She clearly uploaded the critique as a way to generate clicks and money.
      Now portraying herself as a victim lol.

  • @Nikkers8
    @Nikkers8 หลายเดือนก่อน +495

    I believe the main purpose of Gabby's non-apology was to let the world know she is NOT sorry to Rachel Oates & Jessi Smiles.

    • @meredithnavin1358
      @meredithnavin1358 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      That's an excellent point.

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not a fan of Gabby but why would she apologise to someone who exploited her for clicks and money.
      No one cared about the poetry so it wasn't some public service.
      Rachel trying to play victim lol "she called me names"

  • @the_syncopated_traveler1453
    @the_syncopated_traveler1453 หลายเดือนก่อน +468

    Not that Rachel needs my opinion, but all the vitriol GH spewed at her over the years was projection. GH was, is, and will always be jealous of Rachel's talent and artistic knowledge

    • @kamin570
      @kamin570 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Exactly my thoughts

    • @idontspeakenglish827
      @idontspeakenglish827 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      And she’s beautiful, something GH can’t stand in women, especially brilliant ones

    • @debphelan-devon7928
      @debphelan-devon7928 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You are so right

    • @lisarodriguez6966
      @lisarodriguez6966 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I agree. I believe she thought highly of Rachael, and was immaturely hurt. The kids call it narcissistic injury. Followed by projection on GH's part. Rachael lives rent free in her head forever after.

    • @cailinanne
      @cailinanne หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep!

  • @mikalcarruthers
    @mikalcarruthers หลายเดือนก่อน +673

    I'm happy you made this video. Rachel had every right to stand up for herself and not accept Gabbie's apology. Why should see? Gabbie has shown she's not truly sorry and she's putting on a show. You and Rachel are the best and I'm glad you interviewed her. I'm liking this video now

    • @JogaYoe
      @JogaYoe หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Let’s not forget Gabbie never apologized to Rachel!

    • @mikalcarruthers
      @mikalcarruthers หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@JogaYoe Exactly

  • @AWindy94
    @AWindy94 หลายเดือนก่อน +381

    I am still, to this day, *blocked on Twitter by Jimmy Snow* over defending Rachel on this. I shared a great evaluation of his apology, by therapist Mickey Atkins, and he blocked me. He unblocked everyone else as he promised, except me 🙃 I was like. But why me? I'm literally no one 😂🤔

    • @ItsNicoleOkay
      @ItsNicoleOkay หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Then you’re probably not the only one he hasn’t unblocked and he was just saying it

    • @janecarothers4851
      @janecarothers4851 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      I am also still blocked for asking him a legitimate question about this whole thing like bruh 💀

    • @viktorija214
      @viktorija214 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      That is so anfair but probably means your right since they did not anblock you and your profile picture is kul☺️

    • @AWindy94
      @AWindy94 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@ItsNicoleOkay Apparently not! Its nice to know I'm not alone 😆 He really just like, unblocked a couple people n was like "I uNbLoCkEd evErYoNe LiKe I sAiD I wOuLd" 🙃

    • @itsjustshelbs
      @itsjustshelbs หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      oh same. he and I were mutuals on Twitter for a couple years I think until the whole GH bullying Rachel thing happened, then he just disappeared off my list never to be seen again. not upset about it by any means though 😂

  • @martymcflown3707
    @martymcflown3707 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

    Reviews are for the readers, not for the writers. The amount of times an author has had a tantrum about someone giving a poor review of their work is ridiculous at this point, but in Gabby's case it feels especially egregious as she was already a public figure who should have an understanding that critique is part of the job. I really just don't think she's suited for any kind of fame, since she responds to any criticism in the same way.

    • @coyoteartist
      @coyoteartist หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That Rachael reads or what ever her name is loves to say writers should stay out of review spaces. Got a good point.

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      it wasn't a review. It was a video using her name to clout chase and make money and get views.
      Like let's be honest ain't noone reading gabi's poetry or cares about a review of such a work.

  • @kelly-annmaddox
    @kelly-annmaddox หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    Shaking my head as Rachel says it makes no sense to be paranoid that Gabbie befriended Jimmy with a malicious, pre-planned agenda. Nodding vigorously as Vangelina says Gabbie is calculated and the friendship was suspiciously timed. 😅😅 Lots of love to Rachel. ❤

    • @ealusaid
      @ealusaid หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Yes! As theories go, it's actually the one that properly accounts for all the data, when a random occurrence would actually be harder to believe. It's a really common form of social aggression ("bullying" as Gabbie would say) to co-opt someone's support system and isolate them before attacking directly.

    • @kelly-annmaddox
      @kelly-annmaddox หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ealusaid You said it perfectly. 👏

  • @rosemulet
    @rosemulet หลายเดือนก่อน +308

    I forgot about Gabbie Hanna honestly. INSANE how she has 5 million subs, yet struggles to hit 10K views per upload.

    • @ihatemickiegee
      @ihatemickiegee หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      omg i didn’t know that that’s hilarious 😅 you get what you give … shouldn’t have made fun of rachel’s “Miss 4k views on your fuckin makeup tutorial” 🙄🙄🙄

    • @gioi_a
      @gioi_a หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      the way rachel’s 3h video about the apology has twice the views as her apology video is HILARIOUS. oh, irony….

    • @valvihk3649
      @valvihk3649 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont get that, why are there such a contrast? why be subscriber if you dont like it

    • @leishathanthou9161
      @leishathanthou9161 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think its kinda sad that she alienated everyone to the point that thats the case, and its all bc of her own behavior

  • @annepoler4710
    @annepoler4710 หลายเดือนก่อน +254

    Jimmy Snow acted so terribly in all of this. I had weird feelings about him before and this made it clear that he's a smug jerk. Some friend.

    • @mikalcarruthers
      @mikalcarruthers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jimmy Snowflake deserved his downfall. No lie

    • @CatBarefield
      @CatBarefield หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      I stopped following him after this debacle. His nice guy shtick started feeling less and less sincere. I wonder if he’s reached out to Rachel after all this…

    • @whiteraven562
      @whiteraven562 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Yeah, I'd started drifting from his content after he started to move from informative videos about the dangers of Mormonism into smug reddit atheism. And then the Gabbi hannah stuff happened

    • @sleepysmartboy6287
      @sleepysmartboy6287 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Same here. It got strange around this time to me and then the thing about what he did with fans happened and it went downhill fast. Was kind of sad as an ExMo to see others in the same boat take insane turns

    • @TheEnthusiasticHobo
      @TheEnthusiasticHobo หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I honestly forgot he even existed until this video but am I remembering correctly that it was after he started to get backlash when he started to talk about his autism diagnosis almost as a way to deflect blame and avoid taking any responsibility for his actions? Or have I completely created a false memory here??

  • @rosemulet
    @rosemulet หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    OMG the way that gabby completely insulted and tried to discredit her instead of actually listening to the criticism…yikes…

  • @chellyfishing
    @chellyfishing หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    Jimmy messaging Rachel to soften her review was so inappropriate. If you don’t want people to say “mean” things about your work then don’t publish it. You don’t get to put something out there, FOR MONEY, and demand everyone shower you with praise or else face years of harassment and abuse. Authors shouldn’t be engaging with reviews of their work anyway, but if you’re going to subject yourself to it, you cannot blame anyone else for the way it makes you feel.
    Anyway, other than the terrible topic, this is such a lovely interview. Rachel is so kind and thoughtful, Doggolescence is such a sweet little project, and the more coverage of her side of the story, the better. Gabbie has massive reach that she’s consistently been heinously irresponsible with.
    Also, Reads With Rachel mention 🎉🎉 another excellent TH-cam Rachel.

  • @jilllime3824
    @jilllime3824 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    On the inequality between men and women on TH-cam - Cody Ko was wicked harsh with some of the channels he commentated on and still ended up being supported by the people he dunked on. Several of them, I can think of at least three, even went on to collaborate with him. Meanwhile, Rachel, with her much more respectful and technical videos has been vilified online and attacked by multiple creators she’s spoken about.

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah cody didn't receive a gift and have it spat back in his face.

  • @Catie_Joy
    @Catie_Joy หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    Jimmy Snow is what happens when you deconstruct your religion but neglect to deconstruct ego/exceptionalism, patriarchy/misogyny, power/fame, etc. I have so much respect for post-religious people who have really unpacked not just their previous religious ideology, but also all of the baggage that comes along with it that doesn’t necessarily harm them personally. It’s a bummer that Jimmy (who I’m still blocked by on Twitter because I corrected something sexist he said during the Gabbie drama) stopped short and became an ass instead.

    • @lakriz116
      @lakriz116 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      I also believe he was desperate to be part of the TH-camr community and choose popular youtubers over anyone else

    • @tjrune3432
      @tjrune3432 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Oh? Did something happen with Jimmy? I fell off when his anxiety in videos began to just trigger my anxiety. He just never seemed in an okay mood, everything seemed to always be exploding. Or unless he was insulting someone or something.

    • @AWindy94
      @AWindy94 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      He really unblocked like four people and then was like "I uNbLoCkEd eVeRyOnE" 😂 I'm so glad I'm not alone.

    • @meatofmink
      @meatofmink หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      jimmy snow always seemed like a deeply insecure man and his sky daddy seemed needlessly nasty to spout constantly. im an agnostic who had to deal with deep religious trauma but jimmys way of presenting his points were just juvenile after a while.

    • @Lucifersfursona
      @Lucifersfursona หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yeah :/ Jimmy was one of my first intros to survivors of American cults, I found Zelph on the Shelf (legendary, did the work Jimmy didn’t with deconstructing) through watching him when they used to collab.
      How he handled this situation especially after how much he spoke about processing his own experiences as being an abusive partner was… really depressing and infuriating. I felt like he was returning to patterns of abuse by aligning with and prioritizing another abuser, Gabbie, over seemingly everything he had built, and that view made it easier to empathize with him. But the ways he doubled down, and how he switched from processing his own trauma to an amazing atheist style call in show, where he and usually Mormon cult members just screamed at each other and did debate bro zingers with no actual conversation happening at all, a style of content I find deeply unappealing and tbh, useless… it was time to let him go.
      I do hope he’s able to move past the state of self that made all this shit okay in his mind. But it’s really, really not okay.

  • @TwinkTwankTwonk
    @TwinkTwankTwonk หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    I forgot about the Jimmy Snow part of the whole situation, despite it being the reason I stopped watching him years ago. This was a really good interview and I'm so happy to see Rachel sharing her side. Gabbie hasn't changed, at all. This new religion arc is just a mask and she is using religion as a shield to avoid accountability -- there is nothing truly spiritual or Christian about the way she is behaving.

    • @RomeroRomeral
      @RomeroRomeral หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I unsubbed for the same reason.

    • @PucaFlea
      @PucaFlea หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s still the same nasty person. No hate like Christian love as they say

    • @lindseystein9676
      @lindseystein9676 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I stopped watching him after this whole situation.

    • @KelseyLovato
      @KelseyLovato หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same!

    • @caseyw.6550
      @caseyw.6550 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@lindseystein9676 Me, too! I only just remembered he even existed. 😂

  • @gh0stcup
    @gh0stcup หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    I find it interesting the way Rachel considers her memory to be an age issue. I personally believe trauma could have a lot to do with it. She's an autistic woman who was in an abusive relationship, had a turbulent upbringing, AND lived through the height of a global pandemic. If that's not trauma, I don't know what is...

    • @Aelffwynn
      @Aelffwynn หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yeah, I'm having memory issues at a similar age to Rachel. I joke that it's age, but it's not. It's a lot of things.

    • @bettyunicorn6132
      @bettyunicorn6132 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That might explain my memory issues as an autistic teen who’s early childhood has marred by an abusetive mother figure

    • @sypherthe297th2
      @sypherthe297th2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Let's not forget being targeted by an online hate mob fomented by a wretched human being named Peter/Ethel (this may have changed) who goes by EssenceofThought TH-cam.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here. Almost years of my life have been suppressed; my active memory is dedicated for everything else, like random baseball statistics and the first few pages of the Hobbit.

    • @LammyHowl
      @LammyHowl 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same

  • @plantedinwv9043
    @plantedinwv9043 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    I don’t think you’re paranoid at all. As soon as Gabby pulled the Jimmy thing I said myself that seemed planned.

    • @taylors445
      @taylors445 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      I agree. Why else would she go to their only mutual friend to complain? Also she clearly neglected to tell Jimmy that she sent Rachel the book in the first place. Obviously she wanted someone to take her side and Jimmy played right into her hand. His refusal to believe that Gabbie could manipulate him only hurt him further. The way he doubled down and defended Gabbie was the end of his channel. Sad to see but his refusal to listen to anything his audience was saying, only cemented people to stop watching him entirely.

  • @gp6736
    @gp6736 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I just want to say this: After the whole ‘drama’ began, I started watching Rachel’s videos because so many people came out saying she’s a great person. Since then I’ve began studying racism & feminism in uni and I’ve been thinking a lot about what kindness and community means. Rachel time and time and time again shows her kindness, her goodness, & her strength that informs her passion to fight for the right thing. Gabbie had to turn to religion to be perceived as a good person, but Rachel just is a good person and doesn’t have to fear god in order to be one. From everything she has experienced, Rachel could have turned out like Gabbie yet her goodness pushes her in the opposite direction. When talking about ‘how far Gabbie has come’ we must also mention how strong Rachel is. I’m really happy to hear Rachel’s side about this because you can see that what Gabbie did had an effect on her, yet here she being so so so so so respectful while saying her peace. I steer clear of parasocial relationships but my god it makes me so upset that Gabbie did this to Rachel! Rachel, I love your videos, I love how you promote education & kindness and I’m excited to see more! 🙏🏼

  • @Sugar735
    @Sugar735 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Gabbie should feel lucky to have someone as intellectual as Rachel reciew her poetry. I'd love to hear from rachel how my poetry could improve!

    • @ShinSeul
      @ShinSeul หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Honestly, I am with you. Such an opportunity would that be.

  • @menigh123
    @menigh123 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    It still appalls me that Gabby felt like it was okay to use ad hominem attacks against Rachel that were not only juvenile, but completely baseless.

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes it was a tantrum but the central tenet holds. Rachel a talentless hack used Gabi's name to get views and clicks and money.

  • @Lynsey17
    @Lynsey17 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    I don't think Gabbie's rage at Rachel's review was rooted in misogyny as much as the fact that Rachel's criticism was valid vs people who just made fun of the book. She had to vilify Rachel to justify dismissing the criticism.
    Insincere apologies & mental health events aside, I think Gabbie's talk at Oxford really shows how she feels about Rachel. She said some vile, unnecessary things just a few months ago.

    • @CatBarefield
      @CatBarefield หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      I think its both

    • @michelledawn7446
      @michelledawn7446 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t know why Gabbie cares.. her poetry books have good audience reviews on Amazon from what I’ve seen.

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      ​@@michelledawn7446Because she doesn't want praise from her already brainwashed fans. She's mad that people truly invested in poetry and literature, like Rachel, didn't give her an ego stroke. It means more when someone who's respected for their opinion values your work.

    • @AWindy94
      @AWindy94 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Lynsey17 Porque no los dos?

    • @LA-mz1dd
      @LA-mz1dd หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @michelledawn7446 I think because Rachel is educated and knowledgeable on the subject and Gabby is jealous of that. Many others have just made fun of her book but she seems more upset with the one person who gave it legitimate criticism.

  • @winterviveca5976
    @winterviveca5976 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I will never understand how Jimmy Snow could give his opinion on conflict and admit openly he has no idea what's going on in the conflict. Like what was he thinking

    • @jo4550
      @jo4550 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He left a religion that encourages men to open their mouths at every opportunity, and went into a career that rewards him for opening his mouth at every opportunity

  • @CatBarefield
    @CatBarefield หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Rachel, i want to thank you for modelling speaking highly of yourself and your achievements. It was relevant in the conversation, and refreshing to hear. I’m sorry GH felt the need to victimize you, you deserved none of it. And thanks Vangelina for hosting this convo :)

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      rachel aint a victim. she came at gabi and used her name for clicks and money

  • @Lissyhead2
    @Lissyhead2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Gabbie is the very definition of a gas-lighting narcissist. Even to herself. And those people always make the rest of the world feel like the crazy ones. But you're making perfect sense.

    • @screw_it_why_not
      @screw_it_why_not หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This! Gabby is concerningly hostile and obsessive.

    • @Gangsterkitty401meow
      @Gangsterkitty401meow หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the criticism Gabbie has said towards others is really how she feels about herself inside. She’s just projecting !! She’s a very weird and scary person. She is a gaslighter, a narcissist and a bully. She’s very mentally ill.

  • @screw_it_why_not
    @screw_it_why_not หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I’d argue Rachel wasnt snarky at all in that review but thats my opinion and I watched the entire thing because I was feasting on gabbi’s horrible writing. And also I loved rachel’s review because of how she reviews and gabbi’s harassment and defaming of her was absolutely disgusting.
    I’m happy we get to see more of rachel’s pov. She so intelligently and eloquently breaks these things down in a digestible way. Very well spoken!

    • @troycambo
      @troycambo วันที่ผ่านมา

      snark is in the eye of the beholder.
      Also you must disagree with her because she admitted herself she was snarky.

  • @keljells
    @keljells หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Rachel is just such a sweet person, you feel it through the screen that she's just genuine and kind, how Gabbie attacked her as a BOOOLAY is just wild.
    Rachel is a gem.

  • @helloleesh
    @helloleesh หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'm personally not suprised that Gabbie sought solace in the company of men like Keemstar. She's always been a "guy's girl" in the worst sense. Women have always been the enemy. "You're a bitch. You want my man. You're obsessed with me. You're lying about SA allegations." And now: "You're responsible for the lustful thoughts of men and their objectification of your body." Gabbie has always been so cripplingly insecure that she cannot help seeking the approval of men and bringing down other women to do so.
    The reviews of her latest "apology" are all over the map, and I'm actually exactly where Rachel is/was. Prior to that, I thought, "Well, she seems to be doing better, so good for her and everyone else. Perhaps we don't need apologies." But THIS. What is this? Making apologies to no one and laughing all sing-songy your way through them is so unserious... That took no effort on her part, but it was a quick way to give herself all the credit in the world. I'd still like my apology for those live streams, please.

  • @ThelouwseFD
    @ThelouwseFD หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Thank you for helping Rachel defend herself !

  • @AshChiCupcak
    @AshChiCupcak หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Rachel is so kind, talented, and intelligent. Gabbie is just jealous she can never be half the person she is. And using religion as a crutch to forgive herself without actually getting anyone's forgiveness is wild, but not surprising. Anything to avoid accountability huh.
    You're a good friend, Vangelina. Rachel's side deserves to be heard by as many people possible.

  • @viv8871
    @viv8871 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    "People care more about how we present our opinions than what our opinions are."
    OOF, such a good phrase there! It's so true.

    • @Aelffwynn
      @Aelffwynn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is SO much about how you look and sound rather than what you actually say/think. It is so frustrating to me.

  • @JDRiley
    @JDRiley หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you Rachel Oates for using a word I'd never heard before. "Pastiche" is now in my lexicon and shall be used accordingly.

  • @Sarahkara1313
    @Sarahkara1313 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Tbh as much as Jessi deserves an apology, I don’t think she ever wants Gabbi to speak her name. I don’t think it would do anything for Jessi

  • @SleepyPurpleFox
    @SleepyPurpleFox หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Gabbi did the same befriending tactic to iNabber, and manipulated that friendship to get a drama channel on her side. iNabber has videos about it on his channel.

  • @erikdaniels0n
    @erikdaniels0n หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    If Gabbie TRULY felt bad, she would’ve addressed Rachel by name in the video and not been so wishy-washy about it. She isn’t sorry, she didn’t appologize to Rachel directly, so Rachel is allowed to not accept her appology

  • @girlypopgay
    @girlypopgay หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    YES Alizee, Rachel, and Vengelina together I NEED THIS 😭😭😭

    • @AeliaReadsBooks
      @AeliaReadsBooks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      seconded, I would love that

  • @amandamandamands
    @amandamandamands หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Hearing Rachel talk about having to correct something because it is wrong (regardless of if that is helpful to the conversation or not) is so relatable, I think that is a common autistic trait.

  • @sunseraph1919
    @sunseraph1919 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love the part about Rachel not downplaying her good qualities. She’s not saying that she’s the second coming of Jesus Christ. She is giving very relevant credentials in response to Gabbi Hanna fallaciously calling her unaccomplished.

  • @LilRedWitch
    @LilRedWitch หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a woman who is a Christian I am so disgusted by Gabby’s misogyny. I left the church BECAUSE of the misogyny. I’m definitely more progressive Christian and spiritual because of just how insane the church can be. Just be kind to each other ! Most of my friends aren’t religious or Christian and we have the BEST conversations that we learn so much ! We dont try to covert each other we just try to educate each other and I love learning ! 100000% down for a religion video . Teach me about the sentient universe 🙏🏻

  • @deanwinchesterinthedarktower
    @deanwinchesterinthedarktower หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Gabby is using purity culture and the idea of modesty to write off other women's opinions. In the same way, she kept saying "you've not written a book, so I don't have to respect your opinion."
    But now that you have (and I think Jesse has too. Correct me if I'm wrong.) She can't use that as her reason for feeling higher than her critics.
    So now she has this reason that is so easy to change the goalposts for.

  • @Aelffwynn
    @Aelffwynn หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    If I was Gabbie, I would be so embarrassed to even admit that I watched any reviews of my work. This years-long public grudge/hate campaign is BEYOND embarrassing for her.

  • @isaacbenrubi9613
    @isaacbenrubi9613 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thank you for doing this interview and for giving Rachel time to speak her truth and stand up to the bullying that GH has put on her.
    GH's "apology" was about as bogus as you can get and it needs to be called out for what it is.

  • @lithiumleski
    @lithiumleski หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Glad you guys are doing this interview. Cannot wait to listen to this ❤

  • @liesbeneathoureyes
    @liesbeneathoureyes หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Great video and a Vangelina x Alizee x Rachel collab would be transcendental

  • @frankreads8618
    @frankreads8618 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It feels like Gabbi feels threatened by other women, so she hates them to the point where she becomes misogynist and aligns with other misogynists because they enable and accept her misogyny.

  • @Mistertbones
    @Mistertbones หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Gabby's grifting.

  • @daviniusb6798
    @daviniusb6798 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I just love you and Rachel Oates, seeing the two of you together is the highlight of my day! (I'm in Austria where we the people just voted for parties who are openly against us, the people).

  • @RandomTwinkle
    @RandomTwinkle หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Honestly, Gabbie going on and on about how much Rachel's opinion doesn't mean anything to her after five years, shows how it actually does. Started following Rachel because of the drama, and got into peotry because of her. Never watched Gabbies videos and never really cared for her content.
    Glad, you can make yourself heard, Rachel ❤

  • @zuzannakolbusz4832
    @zuzannakolbusz4832 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    gosh, definitely need more of you guys working together!

  • @Emiline729
    @Emiline729 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You two plus Aleezy need to start a podcast or something, I love listening to you guys bounce ideas off one another

  • @athirherra8963
    @athirherra8963 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Omg.. the fact about the difference between men and women on how they put their opinions.. straight to heart

  • @girlypopgay
    @girlypopgay หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    I LOVE reads with Rachel
    And fat sajack
    ☺️

    • @CatBarefield
      @CatBarefield หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Icons, both of them

    • @meatofmink
      @meatofmink หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i love rachel’s wit and activism against censorship in schools. i dont watch fat sajack as much but she’s funny too.

  • @4cprocess
    @4cprocess 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Reads with Rachel is great too! Love seeing all the great crossover with you and Rachel and Rachel :D

  • @rachelcuddington4210
    @rachelcuddington4210 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In my opinion... If you can call them out in your holding everyone accountable video, then you can call them out in your apology video. What irks me the most is how many commentary channels are just going, "oh it's a great apology! She did great!" GH is held to a different standard than most female TH-camrs... Quite evidently so...

  • @brynnbowers8405
    @brynnbowers8405 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Her vendetta against Rachel is so strange, after a psychotic break, therapy, moving, etc she still comes after her a university

  • @coyoteartist
    @coyoteartist หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Firstly a friend of mine once said that anything an artist says is art, is art, that doesn't' mean it's good art. . Secondarily, the phrase “Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you.” keeps coming to mind. I'm not entirely sure why. I'm not even sure if I'm thinking of it, in regards to it's actual meaning or my brain is employing it for some similar concept, it's not let me in on

  • @tenshirei
    @tenshirei หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My biggest takeaway from this whole multiyear mess Gabbie Hanna has made(/been) is how talented and intelligent and smart and kind Rachel is. Seems fitting.

  • @localopa
    @localopa หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    the argument of “you hate it so you parodied it” is asinine when you think about weird al yankovic. yes, he is a man and rachel made the point to say that men don’t get consequences for parodying, but weird al is so very respectful with his work. he asked artists if he could parody their songs, and, if they said no, he wouldn’t do it. that’s why he never did a prince parody. prince said no. infamously, even worse’s album cover was a parody of michael jackson’s bad cover. weird al is an outlier in this, yes, but he has never once said a bad thing about the artists he parodied. if people thought parodying something was akin to doing drag, exaggerating something for the sake of entertainment, i think more people would get that parody is an art form.

  • @xaria_9481
    @xaria_9481 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    39:45 yesss we need more women to stand up for themselves and to not be ashamed of having skills such as intelligence!! very glad she said this, and the fact that this would in turn help her audience become more confident with their own skills without needing to hide them from misogynists as well!!!

  • @roseaAlisu2000
    @roseaAlisu2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember how many of GH fans were attacking me for defending Rachel. I still can’t believe the things GB said, it was simply cruel and vile. I love Rachel. I hope she’s doing fine.

  • @sodasarbat
    @sodasarbat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sweet little conversation tangent between you both was so cute, I loved it! Definitely want more.

  • @rainestar82
    @rainestar82 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gabbie is triggered by people moving on and dropping the topic, triggered by people fighting back, triggered by anyone shes attacked saying ANYTHING and living their lives, basically. Combine that with the clear projection, aggression, grandiose behaviors.... narcissism or some other cluster b disorder.
    I'm so proud you and Rachel are still speaking on this, still giving your perspective and yes, Rachel is owed a sincere apology on HER terms. Gabbies video was posturing and the fact that its clear she hasnt reached out privately to the people she KNOWS shes attacked says EVERYTHING. It takes strength to even continue talking when shes trying to exhaust and strawman people into silence, and I'm so glad you two did this video.

  • @broelle4716
    @broelle4716 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    honestly thank you for sharing your platform with rachel, she deserves her side of this to be boosted

  • @meowdyimfelix
    @meowdyimfelix หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been watching Rachel since around when she put out the first review of Gabby's poetry and she has always seemed so sweet. She definitely doesn't need to accept Gabby's non-apology

  • @brunetteartist24
    @brunetteartist24 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was genuinely such a nice interview- also side note it'll be fun to see you, rachel and alizee on like a single podcast episode. Your camaraderie about the astrology and general other stuff was really fun

  • @ladyteeeee670
    @ladyteeeee670 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Gabbie was jealous because an educated, intelligent woman told her the truth.

  • @Eclipse-mf6hc
    @Eclipse-mf6hc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very unrelated, but as someone who watches Rachel Oates back in the day I had no idea she was autistic. I guess it makes sense why I gravitated towards her seeing as I’m also autistic

  • @Jessiswatchingyou
    @Jessiswatchingyou หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this part did give me a chuckle:
    "there's like 18 months between us, if that, have some respect"
    "is that all there is between you? _oh dear_ "
    because the realisation on Vangelina's face is so fucking funny, like gabby acts as if she's so much older and more mature than everyone when her behaviour is much more akin to an older twin born 1 minute earlier. There's not a whole lot more maturity 18 months can bring you at the age this all began, let alone now.
    I wholeheartedly agree it's so disrespectful to ignore someone's adulthood by constantly referring to them as a girl, boy, child, kid etc, and it's something that bothers me so much (I'm 28). To infantilise someone is demeaning and dismissive of their life experience, it's almost dehumanising to a point as it's denying an entire very important section of their life. It's so wild that even today people STILL feel the need to put others down to raise themselves up.

  • @thousandreasonswhynot
    @thousandreasonswhynot หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    48:01 yes please! I would definitely watch you guys talk about religion and stuff

  • @Dssd0608
    @Dssd0608 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think GH sent Rachel the second book with the intention of roasting her feedback, like entrapment style. Cos it’s “good tv” to make drama. I loved both of Rachel’s reviews of those awful books - they were intelligent and insightful and funny and human. I don’t think she should change anything, cos GH was only ever going to lash out at some point cos it’s how she keeps her subs.

  • @purgatorysystem2126
    @purgatorysystem2126 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's bizarre to me that legal action hasn't been taken against Gabbie. Those were horrible things to say about people and incited harassment. And this is just ignoring how egregiously elitist she is over a subjective form of expression.

  • @burni988
    @burni988 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After the horoscope convo I had to comment how much I love seeing you guys on screen together. Your energies complement each other so well!

  • @shesays1111
    @shesays1111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome duo!! 🥰 Love to you both 🙏🏻 I'm so happy to see this Vangelina/Rachel Collab and excited to see what you guys do next 😊 Also, love to Rachel's beautiful furbaby, Kyra!! 🐾🤗💕

  • @GreenFrog224
    @GreenFrog224 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I actually think it was really important for Rachel to defend her intelligence in her response to Gabbie. I've always believed that Gabbie took so badly to Rachel's videos because they weren't just making fun of her like others. She sat there an broke down literary techniques, compared to other works, and gave genuine feedback. She made a video that Gabbie couldn't defend by saying "they dont like me and are just doing it to bully me" (though she did attempt this). That's why Gabbie's entire diatribe was based around her claiming Rachel's lack of intelligence, if she could get people to believe that Rachel isn't intelligent then she can remove any legitimacy from Rachel's videos.

    • @JoF999
      @JoF999 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      100%

  • @yulliyren8752
    @yulliyren8752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we need a podcast between you three, this was so nice to put in the background when yall had a tangents ab planets and stuff

  • @hhoges9895
    @hhoges9895 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m glad you guys did this video. Rachel has the right to speak out and it’s nice to see her platformed by other creators (I know you guys are friends but still). The vilification she experienced because of gabi was so wrong

  • @thejadedragon5535
    @thejadedragon5535 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been watching you for 4 years now. I can't believe you are where you're at in 4 years. That's so impressive! You went from gaming and then commentary and then now you do these like really in-depth commentary videos and it's just it's so nice and you've written a book! That's great ❤❤❤

  • @mirrojas
    @mirrojas หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jeez I remember all of this. Thankfully, I found Rachel’s channel through this & I’m still subbed! I wish Gabbie would just realize she doesn’t really have a place on TH-cam anymore. It’s just all negativity.

  • @13bigbangtheory
    @13bigbangtheory หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    GH was bothered by Rachel more than anyone else BECAUSE Rachel is educated. Because it was a valid and thorough criticism and there was no ignorance or silliness used that GH could use in dismissing Rachel’s opinion. So she name called, and insulted Rachel. Truly disgusting behavior

  • @leonakoci
    @leonakoci หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would love to see a video of you two discussing religion and your perspectives

  • @crowbro388
    @crowbro388 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yesss! I was hoping for this video! I found Rachel through the poetry review drama. I watched some videos and have been Rachel's fan girl ever since

  • @balladsandbookends
    @balladsandbookends หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was awesome!! And I love seeing both of yall pumping one another up, both of y’all rock

  • @Itzscii
    @Itzscii หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She may have sent people to Rachel but, after seeing how good and interesting Rachel was, I was sure to stay.

  • @claytonfitzgerald782
    @claytonfitzgerald782 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. Enjoyed this a lot. It was like having a couple of friends over for a chat while I cook my dinner.
    Regarding your question as to whether I'd like more colaborative content, you are two of my favorite youtubers. Count me in. Bring Kyra for the next one. 😄

  • @x_houseofwolves_x
    @x_houseofwolves_x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i would 100% love to see you guys discussing religion/spirituality! i think it would be really interesting

  • @sygilloux-v2
    @sygilloux-v2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm an exJW so i'd love to hear yall talk about beliefs and stuff!

  • @lornatw
    @lornatw หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you both for helping me understand specifically the intention of the parody book as I know I left a comment saying it may have come from a negative place but I actually see now it did not at-all even though I still would recommend being cautious of parodying works that have a trauma background even if yours don’t but I also know you were not aware of that either. Totally on your side and understanding much better and honestly baffled this women kept this going so long, her grudge is very clear and feelings slip through so often and I really don’t know at this point if she will sit long enough to understand what she should actually be remorseful and humble about and feel I’ve wasted too much energy trying to give her more grace than needed. One can hope. Wishing you wellness and peace always ❤

  • @gamerducko
    @gamerducko หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A Religion talk with the two of you would be fascinating! I'd love to see it ♥
    Unrelated, something that stood out to me. You did link to her via the specific video links, but could you maybe link to Rachel's channel on its own? Let this be the problem I have with all videos lol

  • @starrycat110
    @starrycat110 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The part where Rachel’s talking about acknowledging her strengths and intelligence, and how doing that is an encouragement to her audience; that’s exactly what makes me love her as a creator so much. I think she’s so brilliant 🥹 and I admire her for her honesty and openness

  • @punkybrewstar83
    @punkybrewstar83 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awww- I'm going to listen to this while I mow the lawn then... love Rachel & of course it's a long one 😂- great collaboration for an interview ❤

  • @rebeccaphillips2207
    @rebeccaphillips2207 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    COMPLETELY agree with the gender double standards when it comes to anything comedy in general

  • @wisdomteethsoup
    @wisdomteethsoup หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gabbie reminds me very much of a mean girl that never grew out of her mean girl phase, especially all her new "I'm being the bigger person, and I'm sorry to anyone who had a problem with me" has such a mean malicious lean to it. I never thought highly of her, at most I was neutral about her when she seemed to be "doing better" but I think she really is deep down just a nasty mean person who cant look at anything she has done in her life and truly internalize how cruel she consistently is to people. She has to be the best most right person in the room all the time and anyone who challenges that is suddenly public enemy number one, and she is particularly mean and nasty to the people she sees as the most vulnerable because those are the people she can beat down the hardest. Personally I think she used Rachel as her whipping post because how dare such an insignificant person even attempt to critique or parody her. That and the fact that Rachel HAS been holding back and not outspokenly told her off (because she's being the bigger person) means Gabbie feels like she's justified and safe to keep punching down to make herself feel better. It's not any sort of misunderstanding, it's Gabbie being a bully who feels better when she is able to put Rachel down and I am so glad Rachel is finally speaking up because Gabbie is not going to handle this situation like a grown adult. She's going to keep bringing it up till she's blue in the face because she is incapable (at this moment at the very least) of serious constructive self reflection. Hopefully Rachel speaking the very clear truth of the situation is enough to make her shut up about it out of embarrassment. If not embarrassment of her behaviour, then of the public perception that comes from showing her entire ass to the internet over a book review she shouldn't have watched in the first place if her feelings were so fragile.

  • @mostprofoundquiet
    @mostprofoundquiet หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Rachel didn't insult Gabbie as a person. She critiqued her work, work that was SENT TO HER FOR CRITIQUE BY Gabbie, but even if it hadn't been, critique is an acceptable thing.
    Gabbie, on the other hand, attacks Rachel's social ability, looks, personality, etc.
    If anyone is MEAN, it's Gabbie.

  • @VicesinMyHead
    @VicesinMyHead หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am really enjoying this interview (I was bummed out when life wouldn't let me watch it when it came out earlier). I need to check if I’m following Rachel on YT and fix it if I’m not.
    Last but not least, I'm so happy that you're going to be able to publish your book exactly as you want. Apologies for when future me, in a year or so, quizzes you a bit on your self-publication experiences and journey. 📚

  • @healer_stealer
    @healer_stealer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for being a good friend to Rachel and encouraging her to stand up for herself. Seeing her champion herself and get her voice back is amazing I’m so proud of you Rachel you lovely soul. Maintain mature but don’t ever let them walk on you boo 💜💜💜

  • @AAMM101
    @AAMM101 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    26:00 A nobody? Seriously, why are actually talented people, kind, down to earth and humble.

  • @marieh2324
    @marieh2324 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd love to hear you two talk about religion!

  • @zinatarata
    @zinatarata หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was almost gone from my head, but now I remember unsubscribing from Jimmy Snow because of all this.

  • @CoreenMontagna
    @CoreenMontagna หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    57:21 reminds me of how Van Morrison recorded a bunch of ridiculously stupid songs just to finish out such a contract. My favorite is Royalty Check, followed closely by Ring Worm. It’s called The Bang Sessions, and you can find it on TH-cam.

  • @warlordofbritannia
    @warlordofbritannia 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve been watching Rachel for years, since she made the first Pearl video. She’s one of the least threatening people on the Internet; the only reason for people to attack her is that they see her as an easy target.

  • @Marxnchill
    @Marxnchill หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Rachel ❤