More entrees are always met with great enthusiasm, especially for the die hard fans like myself who have been playing the franchise since the 80's or 90's. I like the variation between linear and the newer open world concept. But I do hope it all stays within the same console unlike what we were used to with 2 games per 3D console and handheld. It makes the players have a collection of consoles. I rather invest the money in new games. Especially since we are currently traveling around the world, having just the Switch with so many Zelda games on it to play is just amazing as it wouldn't be possible carrying all the original consoles along. Love doing a periodic marathon of all the franchises games. Enjoy finishing EOW, I personally really enjoyed the game, going for round 2!
Why is that hard to understand? Remake original its the same. You can do the dungeons in any order, but metroidvania style you need special items to get to other area. Seems simple.
Y cant they just do open world plus massive dungeons like in twilight princess i want traditional dungeons like ocarina of time with huge boss battles y is that gone now days are the majority of ppl really into no dungeons in Zelda cus thats what made zelda zelda y am i the only one who actually enjoyed the dungeons
@riderz_13_78 you're not the only person. I really didnt enjoy totk/botw due to lack of dungeons/tools(not dumb tools on a tablet)/unique massive bosses. I found the shrines annoying as heck and just not fun. Totk just feels like minecraft now anyways. People arent playing to play through the story. Theyre playing to see what they can build and what trickshots they can pull off so they can post on boobtube/craptok. None of which i will watch and all of which i have to click "do not recommend". Rant over
Yeah the two styles aren’t incompatible. They already restrict you from climbing anything in the shrines. Instead of 100+ of those make 10 really big ones with a unique theme in each. It was forgivable in BotW but a direct sequel should have addressed that instead of repeating it.
Nintendo needs a team above these A team able to create a massive, deep game plan where multiple parallel universes overlap, intersect giving rise to wonderful interactions and tricky puzzles... A team able to expertly explore the deep recesses of technology for creating a true superior experience beyond the limits of its ephemeral work that is Breath of the Wild.
It’s so simple we WANT open world Zelda with SOME linear aspects in progression while ALSO having open side quests, puzzles, ect that can be done in any order that are completely optional! Cmon Zelda team every other open world understands this concept.
@@ZombifiedBuizel I didn’t like botw or Totk either. But not because it was open world but because it was an open world that sucked. It was just a korok seed and shrine farming game with bad stories and terrible “dungeons”. Oh and the voice acting was terrible as well, pretty everything was terrible tbh lol
We need probably four Zelda teams, honestly: -open world -3D linear-ish -2D -spinoff And in a six year stretch get one game from each team and maybe two remakes/remasters.
my take is that ALBW and EoW are essentially 2D Zelda games, with openness being on a sliding scale and EoW being more open than every other 2D Zelda. I think an alternative would be a truly 3D Zelda where you have an open world and some quests being linear and some being nonlinear, with gameplay progress being possible by doing some quests in any order but others being dependent on completion of a previous quest. That would be some place between BOTW, where you could do missions in any order or omit some of them, and something like OOT where you are absolutely required to beat dungeons and bosses before some other ones.
The top of my Zelda wishlist would be an Oracle of Ages/Seasons remake combo pack where both games are on the same cartridge, and the secret system has been reworked so that you can just claim the items from the other game as soon as you unlock them instead of having to punch in passwords.
I 100% agree. I loved Botw/Totk but they just felt completely different from the regular Zelda games. I miss games like Wind Waker, Ocarina of time, and Twilight Princess and would love to see future games like them. Still every now they can release a game like Botw.
To be fair, the original Legend of Zelda was open ended. A link to the past was Semi open ended. But I do agree that I would like some form on linearity from future titles.
I'd love it too, because their stories and settings have a lot of potential but they are almost unplayiable because of all the blowing, close the ds, exc... features
I would love that too for full remakes I would also be happy for them to just bring them over with a kinda remaster look and redo some of the game mechanics because it’s not on a ds anymore but Yh would be great to see
I mean she was probably just outside the border. We need more games outside Hyrule though I love world building. Holodrum, Labrynna, Hytopia, New Hyrule, etc. They should keep expanding the borders of the world.
I mean, the closest you can get to that with what we have is in the official OOT manga where she asks Impa to use Sheikah magic to turn her into a sheikah boy until the time is right so she could hide right under Ganondorf's nose as his spy
My idea: If the devs want to give us all the traversal tools at the beginning of an open world Zelda, that’s fine. But give us cool combat-oriented items, magic, weapons, that are themed to the boss and just make us feel that awesome upgrade feeling.
There is a lot of upgrade feeling in EoW, upgrading accessories, more powerful tier enemy echoes, various enemy mechanic upgrades (weather, noise, movement, elements), improved mobility echoes, link ability upgrades, Tri upgrades, tiered Smoothies, link combat ability unlocks, etc.
@nathanlaird Yup, this was exactly my thought. It feels like an enhanced version of LBW's system, which also gives you access to all your tools from the beginning. Honestly, I think this way of handling progression is fine so long as they continue to do it well and it serves a purpose.
Personally, I prefer the 3D Zelda games. Being able to swing a sword in various different ways, dodging enemy attacks and looking around every single room for clues and hints is probably the best part of the games.
Before BotW and TotK my favorite Zelda game was Twilight Princess, but the one thing that always bugged me about that game was how restrictive it was, especially in terms of climbing and exploring areas outside of the storyline. That is why I completely fell in love with BotW. I LOVE exploring and spent the time between BotW and the LOOOOOONG wait for TotK exploring every inch of BotW's map several times over. Yes, I did find all 900 Koroks in BotW, and yes, I'm going to look for all of them in TotK too. Seeing how far video games have evolved since my early days as a gamer way back in the days of Atari 🤯🤯🤯
@@Mr.Chimpazee I don't own a steam deck, though I understand that I definitely could do that if I had one. I'm just saying, for years people have been begging for the HD ports to hit the switch
@@Sir_Adam They don't need to be remade. So far remakes have been needed due to the limitations on previous games - this isn't necessary for these games, which is why they got simple remasters.
I wouldn’t mind having a release cycle of one new top-down game, one new linear 3D game, some remasters/re-releases of classic 2D/3D games, possibly even remakes of classic releases, and a new open-air 3D release. Best way to fill out that ever growing dev time for open-air games.
My first experience with The Legend of Zelda was with Ocarina of Time back on my N64; and that was a magical experience one that only a Zelda game can reach upon. I spent countless hours playing it over and over for two major reasons: didn’t had much games since purchasing other games was expensive but also because the world was extremely well developed and all. Then I went on and played all the other entries in the franchise which made Zelda my favorite franchise to date. I must admit that I was expecting more depth regarding the story of Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. I enjoy their massive Hyrule and it’s a particular experience to dive deep in each corner of that incarnation of Hyrule but I miss the impactful plot twist we had with the previous titles such as the revelation in OoT, or the dramatic events of Skyward Sword. That said I hope that we will still get those kind of projects for 3D Zelda games not only some remakes/remasters but brand new games in that format. That said, it’s great to see that the top-down Zelda games are still on the plans and still standing their ground, echoes of Wisdom is amazing and already one of my favorite already. And I must admit that the 2D Zelda games are in the majority my favorite style of Zelda games.
The problem is that without a good story, the whole experience of saving Hyrule or Zelda is meaningless and the player doesnt care and hence gets bored after the exploration phase. For me my magical zelda game is wind waker because the story and characters come to life and I care about their world. I wsnt to go back to my favorite characters and spend time with them. In botw or totk, there is not a single character i really want to spend more time with. With the exception of the terribly underexplored Sidon, they are all really bland
@@MarzipanCat. I understand completely. I also agree that Sidon is so underexplored! He is one of my favorites there as well! The story is at the top for me as well regarding the Zelda games unfortunately they already said that for development they said that the story is not the most important. Not sure if it could help you look at botw and totk with a better look but what worked for me was consider Hyrule as a character. Like you mentioned regarding WW, you care for the characters there and feel good spending more time with them. One of the Zelda games that has strongly that approach to me is Majora’s Mask as well as Skyward Sword. But with botw and totk what worked for me to enjoy the games more and in such way was to consider Hyrule itself as a character and look deeper on what it had to offer and do spending more time within the realm was more enjoyable
@@CJ_IceCissalc but what did it have to offer? Everything is empty, some traces of houses... wells are same-y, the depth are same-y... the upteenth same-y hill is not going to be exciting :(
I personally do hope we get more Botw and Totk type games but aslo the classic Ocarina and Majoras Mask 3D style games. Echoes of Wisdom was really fun and a great game to play when taking a break from more complex Zelda games but I do hope it continues in some way even if not fully open world like the other two. As long as there is some variety in-between them I would be stoked for any new releases honestly.
I've realized after having spent some time playing botw and totk that I much prefer the classic Zelda formula (linear 3D & top-down). My best and most memorable experiences have been playing oot, tp, ww and sw. I really want more of that style! eow is also great and I'm really enjoying it!
More of that style... Nah I rather more of Botw style.. Nintendo Games don't have enough Graphics that can mess with Playstation 5 an Xbox1 Graphics...
I agree! I had a BLAST playing TOTK and put over 100 hours in. But... I don't think I'll ever want to go back to it? Half the fun is the discovery of the world and the map. When you have complete freedom, you can do anything - and EVERYTHING, to the point that it's just not fun the second time through for me. But the linear Zelda's? I've replaced them multiple times! Having a more curated experience allows me to lay back and enjoy the pre-determined puzzles, story-beats, plot twists, character and environment introductions, etc... Plus, open world Zelda's are full of a lot of filler. Fun filler, yes, but filler nonetheless. 🤷
@@lilSchmoob Yes, totally agree. And what drives me kind of crazy is that it doesn't even reward you for going the extra mile exploring those far away and irritating-to-get-to places…it's usually a Korok waiting for you or in the depths…nothing! 😅
Personally I think it would be interesting to mix the 3d Zelda game experience. Bring back key items , keep the large open worlds but limit some of the key sections behind necessary items, keep the side quests like shrines and koroks, classic style dungeons, bring back linear story lines, you could even keep the weapons system to be what it is currently or maybe a slightly dumbed down version. Either that or just have them separated and have massive open world 3d Zelda and classic linear story driven 3d Zelda imo
They could always make open world map that has some restrictions, like a dungeon that can't be entered until you get a key item from the story. BOTW was great for what it did but when TOTK just followed with same thing the open world "go where ever when ever you want" kind of gameplay got old fast. The world can be open, but the way you get through the story should be more restricted.
And in TOTK you could totally cheese the puzzles or bypass them completely thanks to the new Zonai toys etc. It was novel but not particularly fun because it wasn't challenging 😬
Echoes of Wisdom does exactly this. Once you get past the first dungeon, the map opens up and you can go almost anywhere. But aside from the dungeons the story marks on your map, you can't enter any other major dungeons until the story says you can. You can scavenge the overworld for echoes, items and heart pieces and such though; but progression wise, you're only allowed to enter the dungeons the main quest currently has assigned.
I really like EOW. As someone who cant do all of the live action fighting in the previous games, it lets me enjoy the things i like in the franchise and is a great entry point. I'd love to see them put out a 3D version
I think what they should do is create a linear experience with classic Zelda dungeons but make the world feel open in the sense that there is a lot to do (sidequests) and explore within sections of the game (I am talking about classic areas like Eldin Volcano or gerudo desert). You could then progress by completing the mainline quest in each of these areas, get a certain item and then move on. The issue with Breath and Totk was it got repetitive. With a world a third or a fourth of the size of these games you would still have a lot of exploration but you could create content that felt "special" thoroughly.
I honestly don’t want Nintendo to go back to having separate handheld and home console releases, the Switch is the perfect combination of both, why would anyone want to go back to those small scale handheld games that don’t have as much content as the home console games.
I personally would love them to go back to that. Bigger fully fledged games are fantastic and definitely have their places. Playing them on my switch docked is great. Handheld also when I’m at home (like on the coach or in bed). But actually, when commuting or travelling with a switch, it’s not the kind of game I want to play. I miss the smaller handheld titles in those scenarios. It’s why I always end up going back to older Pokemon games or even Links Awakening when on the move. There’s a place for both. Even if they don’t fit with your playstyle. A lot of people, myself included, don’t want every game to be 100 hours
@Garrus-w2h But it is not considered mobile. The quality is much better and mobile games could not hold up on a TV. The games designed for Switch are full fledged in design.
BOTW was my first LoZ game and I know it’s quite different from traditional Zelda games but I love it so much. I hope they won’t abandon that format entirely
My opinion on the “traditional” Zelda label: BotW is very traditional Zelda. It’s basically the first time a 3D Zelda nailed the open-world adventure that most of the old 2D Zelda games made popular. It’s arguably the most “traditional” since the first game (and this was the devs stated intent). Nearly all “open world” franchises today list Zelda as an influence; even GTA. The people who say it isn’t traditional and that it’s a huge departure apparently only played the 3D titles; which are very, very linear. I mean, Ocarina, MM, WW, Twilight, and SS are all fine games; but they are the untraditional ones, not the Switch titles. Zelda games (at least most of the 2D ones) have been “open-world” since ‘86. That’s the real tradition.
@@prime-of-two3753 Yeah it's true that you can finish Minish Cap, Link's Awakening, Phantom Hourglass and Sprit Tracks in any order you want 😏 I played almost all games (except zelda II and those of the CDI) but I can say that the first Zelda game is not representative of the traditional side of this saga, it was just a blank page on which the next games came to add new ideas to give it the identity it has today, with time new ideas were implemented in each new opus, ideas that have become dear to the hearts of the players. There is no problem with the fact that the game is linear, at least like that you feel that you are evolving in the story and that the difficulty getting more and more harder with time whereas with the strategy of BotW, as all the areas are accessible from the beginning, everything has been made easier for the players and the more you advance the more everything becomes very easy, the last bosses you can beat them with so much ease. All Zelda games (after the first and before A Link Between Worlds), whether 2D or 3D, are not open worlds, they are rather semi-open, in Hyrule you can almost go wherever you want but to advance in the scenario you must follow a certain order and have certain items to solve puzzles and that is what a real Zelda game is: Exploration + tough dungeons + puzzles + fights, not just exploration + combat like the first game was and BotW.
@prime-of-two3753 I've only played BotW, TotK, and the og Legend of Zelda so far and that's totally what I was thinking! Playing the original after some botw really just made BotW feel like a direct adaptation of everything it wanted to accomplish in the first place. A great video about this here on yt is called "the question no one asks miyamoto" or something like that
It funny how people complain about a game on how it doesn’t feel like a classic game and when they do they also complain about it. To me I base a game on good story and fun gameplay. So as long it good I’m in.
This probably dates me a bit, but My first experience with Legend of Zelda was playing Link to the Past on my cousin's SNES way back in the day. Needless to say, I was hooked.
I'm an open world games addict. I don't care who makes them. There is something freeing and fresh about open world games. The only thing I would say to Nintendo is when making an open world game don't leave so much wasted space where there is just nothing but a lot of walking and nothing to do.
I think that’s part of what makes it beautiful. Being able to just enjoy the landscape, trekking to your next destination. I don’t need something flashing at me every ten seconds, I think having those open spaces just adds to the beauty of an open world game but that’s just my opinion. You actually feel like your traveling somewhere and you don’t know what to expect around each hill, mountain or river.
@@matthewfrechin1484 I kind of agree. There's a balance between things to do and nothing to do but I prefer the expansive feeling of botw and tears. Compare that to something like Immortals Fenyx Rising which felt artificially jammed with stuff. It made the game world feel like a game world where botw the tears retained their "miniature garden" vibe.
I think the Zelda franchise has always been about being innovative and implementing new things into every game, like how Ocarina introduced not only time travel but unique songs to be played for fast travel, Wind Waker had it's (at the time) MASSIVE open sea to explore, just always been about innovation. I love the classic dungeon style we had but I also love the new direction of an open world, it makes me feel even more like Link just going about Hyrule as I please. So, I love the huge open world and I think they can continue this but at the same time I feel like a release of a more classic dungeon style game alongside (maybe not at the exact same time) that open world would be fun.
@@Sir_Adam cause I’ve never played them and wind waker at least doesn’t need one there are other games that will get remakes way before those rather not wait 10+ years just want to play those games in its HD form and I’ll be happy and then they will have every 3d Zelda available for the switch
@@Mr.Chimpazee Why would I waste hundreds of dollars on an emulator to play games I can't own? I'd rather just pay $50 for an officially released game I can actually possess and play as intended.
It got boring so fast. New Zelda games always take top priority for me. But EOW was a let down. After I beat Gerudo last week, I havnt played it since.
@nathandorf7964 I'm just not a fan of the battle mechanics. This Zelda game just didn't give me the excitement and enjoyment other Zelda games did. But I won't say it's a bad game. It's just not for me.
I recently received Echoes for my birthday and I am loving it. It reminds me so much of the games I played when I was younger but with a fresh take. I haven't finished it yet since I'm really taking my time and exploring the world in much the same way I did with the OG games. It's been a lot of fun.
I don't want to see another Zelda game with breakable weapons and I'd like a more traditional style game for the titular princess. Echoes of Wisdom is fine, just got me craving for a more badass version of Zelda like she appears in Twilight Princess.
OoT and MM are long overdue for a proper remake-not remaster-with photorealistic graphics or in a darker BotW style plus robust voiceacting (including silent and speaking options for Link) as well as expanded content such as new side-quests and items, but the focus should be on the enhancement of the core storytelling wherever possible with everything else in service of it; as for MM, weren’t there cut dungeons in the N64 version? 🤔 Why not resurrect those dungeon concepts and redesign them for the remakeover? The same can be said for WW if Nintendo were to do an eventual remakeover too. If the remakeovers of OoT and MM are wildly successful, Nintendo should make a brand-new sequel to OoT/MM and create a Hero of Time trilogy with the new game titled, The Legend of Zelda: The Lost Hero of Time; another good subtitle, albeit wordy, would be The Forgotten Hero of Time. The Lost Hero of Time could feature both Links at the end of OoT and MM who must work together to defeat Ganondorf who managed to get his hands on Majora’s Mask and don it, wreaking havoc on Hyrule once again and seemingly unstoppable for one hero… But perhaps two Heroes of Time can pull it off and seal the fissure between their timelines? 🤷🏻♀️
I think Echos hit a pretty good balance of story progression and player freedom. After the first dungeon you can go just about anywhere on the map you want to go, but the story is locked until you complete the dungeons that are marked. Me personally I didn't go to far off of the path set for me. I did explore every section of every area that I saw when I was in the area, but when it looked like I would cross into a later game area I would hold off and save the area for later exploration when it was time to head in that direction. This was very unlike Tears where you could almost play the game in reverse order. I really wish they would atlest adopt that type of story philosophy for later TotK style game storytelling. Even BotW had a semi-linear progression if you didn't just run straight to Gannon. Also, the Echos showed you could have actual dungeons with free thought puzzle solving solutions because I have seen videos where people solve puzzles in totally different ways than I did. I hope that encourages more creative puzzles than "opening five locks to fight a boss."
I seriously hate Aonuma now. When asked about linear Zelda he said “why would players want to go back?” As someone who hated BotW and TotK, I feel he couldn’t be any more tone deaf. Yes the newer games sold very well, but to ignore the millions of people that miss the old linear game design is just a slap in the face to people who have supported Zelda for decades
You realize the series was almost shelved because it WASN’T open world? That’s confirmed from Nintendo insiders. From the years of Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword, all you’d almost ever see online was that the series was too linear and needed to be open world. And people would trash Aonuma for supporting the linear method. So he does exactly as the masses asked for, and now they’re saying they want the opposite. Hate yourselves, if anything.
@@WindMageMasterI think you don't understand the difference between the majority and a vocal minority. People asking for linear games ARE NOT the same people.
@@lightv700 Obviously. That doesn’t change a thing about my comment. Although actually, some of them are the same. I’ve known people who have flip flopped over the years on the subject. But that’s probably a small minority.
It doesn't even have to be linear. The very first Zelda game ever was open world. You could literally go wherever, but there were certain items and tasks to complete that if you didn't do that first, you're going to have a hellacious time running head-on into Dungeon 8. The same can be done now, but they've constricted their own creativity with this thinking that the only solution is to make breakable weapons and take away the dungeons altogether. I mean yeah they could absolutely go BOTW or TOTK style, but hide certain weapons, tools or armor inside the dungeons in a linear fashion that forces you to take on each dungeon by order. Or, make certain enemies impervious to certain weapons that you can't get until you've gone here and done this. There's plenty of ways to make a traditional dungeon-style Zelda with free open world; something is just missing and I don't know if it's the creativity or the passion, but if they don't do something big on the next one, they're going to Ubisoft themselves.
My problem with BotW and TotK is that they don't feel like Zelda games at all to me. It's like it's trying to become it's own form of Dark Souls/Elden Ring. The first problem I have is that Link is almost unrecognizable to me with the lack of a traditional green tunic. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the others but I don't how others feel but I personally feel Link just isn't Link without his iconic green tunic. It's like changing Mario's iconic red and blue overalls outfit to a polo shirt and khakis and taking away his iconic hat so instead of having his M emblem on his hat it would be on his shirt. Then there is the lack of traditional Zelda style dungeons. I know in BotW there was literally no real dungeons they just felt like a series a puzzles with a couple enemies in the way. I also don't like these games' durability system. I don't have a problem with weapon durability as long as it's done right but these games make your weapons feel like they're made of glass. So you spend so much of your time hoarding weapons and worrying about running out of them. Lastly I really don't like how the Master Sword has become this useless weak weapon that breaks just as easily as the other weapons you find on the ground or from other enemies. It's like a slap is the face to the Zelda series. So personally I don't very much like this new direction of Zelda games and I hope someday we can have at least one more traditional style Zelda game for us old school Zelda fans. I mean at the very least port Twilight Princess and Wind Waker to Switch!
If you have the know-how I would recommend some of the OoT ROM hacks out there. The more well made ones do a good job satisfying that yearning for Real Zelda.
They're nothing like any of the games you just mentioned. Breath of the Wild isn't the first game where you start in different clothing and have to earn your green tunic. You are free to unlock it and wear it as you please. The dungeons in Breath of the Wild where not much different to those in other games. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the four Divine Beasts were dungeons. Weapon durability is indeed a huge miss and just a not fun game mechanic. Having the Master Sword even being part of it is a huge mistake. There's nothing to suggest this is how Zelda games will be moving forward, though. Most new Zelda games introduce a new mechanics that disappears after one or two games, and Nintendo tends to listen to fan feedback.
IDK, maybe i'm wrong. But when you talk about the Zelda series you seem to forget that the series started out with an open world (as Open as 80s game could be anyway) exploration game on the NES called The legend of Zelda. Definitely NOT linear, thank god, LOL. I also notice that when talking about the ""OLD"" zelda games. You never go back any further than Ocarina of Time. the 5th game in the series. I mean i get it. That was your introduction to Zelda. As it was for so many fans today. I get that, but. The NES OG & SNS A Link To The Past were great games in their time too 2d/Top Down Exploration based non linear "Classic Zelda for my era
Like other people mentioned and I agree with your point with the lack of representation in the video; a Open World concept like what the first LoZ (NES) was (aka the core mechanics) but reimagined in a 3D space which was what BotW should've been, with memorable characters and a well-written story would be perfect. I do like the new direction in the sense of the open world, but the lack of dungeons and impactful items was what really separated BotW from the other zelda games. It's a reason why I still go back to many of the old zeldas yet I can't even think about going back to BotW and playing that a second time. For sure probably won't play it a third time.
@@lutetiunn everyone ripped on Botw for it's lack of dungeons. But, with all due respect. For me the shrines & divine beasts more than made up for that. As for the Dungeon Item/Item you found in the dungeon. That helped explore new areas of the map, or fight enemies. They could have been in the Divine Beasts & a few of the shrines, sure. II give ya that. BotW isn't perfect. Just by far, the best Zelda game since Ocarina of Time. Anyway, Unpopular Opinion, But. I also liked that BoTw had no Companion Characters. No Midna, Fi, Ezlo, Tatl or Navi. That idea worked with Ocarina of Time. Being the First 3d game in Zelda. But Nintendo just had to repeat it. In most of the games for years
@@GregKoster-o2j and really, the Divine Beasts give you abilities that help a ton with the mechanics of the game itself. Revali's Gale and Mipha's Grace are huge huge lifesavers for me lol.
@@saltysyd99 Good Point, I wasn't even thinking about the Champion's Abilities but yeah they are helpful too. My fav is Urbossa's Fury. Even Lynels are super easy to kill, with it
There is nothing stopping them from doing an open world zelda game on a new hyrule world map that has linear style dungeons with key items.. even if the dungeons can be done in any order like where is the hookshots, iron boots, etc...
EoW was enough “open world” for Zelda. Not everything needs to be huge games with open world and a trillion hours of game play…that ship has sailed with games already. Give us original ideas in solid games and you’ll end up with more games like EoW that are fun, gravitating and unique.
I think a happy compromise that they've paved the way for is a game design that doesn't prohibit full exploration, but items from dungeons make traversal into some areas much easier. I think Echoes did this pretty well, with a mix of some areas requiring story events to explore and some echoes making exploration of some regions a lot easier
As of right now I have next to zero faith in Aunoma to deliver an “actual” top down Zelda. Just more “reimaginings” he’s been going on about for like the past 15 years. I genuinely believe he doesn’t get or like the earlier games that I love. I truly miss the days getting games like Link to the past, Link’s Awakening, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Oracle of seasons and Ages. No gimmicky controls, decent story’s, decent puzzles that could actually leave you stumped occasionally because wasn’t this do it your way bs that makes atleast one solution always oblivious, and graphical styles that I actually cared for. Guess the last games up my alley where Twilight Princess and Link between Worlds.
I personally would love an OG Legend of Zelda/Adventure of Link remake, with a dungeon maker perhaps? Also, LOZ started as an open world/non-linear game, from the start you were given the option to take a sword or not. Lately, I skip the sword until I absolutely have to grab the master sword.
I would like that mini bosses in the overworld give something permanent. Dropping just consumables like in BOTW/TOTK makes them feel like normal but too involved enemies.
Aonuma literally insulted the Zelda fans who want traditional Zelda. Linear will always be superior to open world. Once in a while an open world game is fine, but restriction is GOOD.
The next BIG Zelda News are about the Legend of Zelda live action movie not games already because Echoes of Wisdom is still going on and rule i'm so IN of it and about of Zelda movie I would LOVE to see and hope Link dosen't talk as in the games, Tom Holland or some other young actor be Link, Anya Taylor-Joy Zelda and Dwayne the Rock Johnson Ganondorf that would be so AWESOME we really lives EXCITING times in Zelda's history with games Totk, Echoes of Wisdom, Windwaker and Twilight Princess defienitily Twilight Princess HD Remakes and upcoming Zelda games for the Switch 2 and Zelda movie i'm so EXCITED! 😮
Link DOES talk in the games, though. He is clearly relating details about his journey to other characters in the game, details that can't be understood by a simple head nod. We don't hear/see/read what he is saying because we're intended to BE his character while we're playing. The movie doesn't need to present Link as mute in that way.
Dungeon Items are critical for keeping things fresh as you're playing. New mechanics change the flavor of the dish, and it's good to keep seasoning it as you go. I'd be interested to see a more amorphous game structure applied to 4 *massive* dungeons that each has a dungeon item in it. You can go to them in any order and get a certain distance in. You collect an item that helps you get a that far... but that item can also help you get further in the other dungeons/make shortcuts. You'd go back and forth getting stronger and more capable each time you enter a dungeon.
I think might sound weird but I want a Link between worlds to get the persona 3 reload treatment. I want it to transform for 2d to 3d. I think it would be a unique remake for that game.
Why tf do you want remakes of old games!? Those old games already exist as is, some of them already remade! Any development time they waste on a remake is development time subtracted from an actual new masterpiece in the making. Come on man
I think it would be awesome if they remake the first zelda game as a 3d game, not a sandbox game. It can be an open world. I am aware it may take a while, also think it will be well worth it for us old school zelda fans and new fans alike.
Nintendo is Still letting the wind waker and twilight princess to die on the Wii U just because Nintendo said no to the wind waker on Switch so they are saying yes they are going to let it die on the Wii U.
I haven’t yet played Echoes but I want to! And I would love to see remasters of the other games. Seasons and Ages for sure, maybe 1 and 2, Link to the Past, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Four Swords Adventures. Really focus on the other games and give more time between the ones already remastered.
Nostalgia is great. But at the end of the day, they are devs. Botw and totk is what generated mass amounts of revenue internationally. Again, I get the nostalgia, but they’d be dumb if main focus wasn’t the new 3D open world formula.
It would be so beautiful to see a game where you could play as both Link and Zelda, maybe like a NieR:Automata approach where you switch protagonists after restarting a finished save file and get a different experience that still parallels. Easier on developers but still can give more variety and replayability.
Don’t get me wrong, botw and ToTK were amazing games but I grew up on traditional linear Zelda games and in my opinion nothing beats those but I have a feeling that we will never get those again which really makes me sad because those older games are what put Zelda on the map and it feels like Nintendo is basically saying “fuck you” to all of their older fans who grew up with traditional Zelda games
I grew up with the “traditional” linear Zelda games, starting with OoT on the N64. And BotW/TotK was one of the best steps forward for me. I want the freedom to explore and craft my own journey… not be forced through a tunneled experience. Also, growing up with the series, a lot of the reactions I would see online was that the series was too linear and needed to be more open. Now I’m seeing the opposite. That being said, I think the style of ALBW & EoW is key for moving forward. Those are a mix of linear & non-linear… a good bridge for both types.
@@WindMageMaster ehh I guess my biggest issue was that they abandoned traditional dungeons, I love the openness of the new games but the dungeons from botw and totk were hot garbage. If those would’ve been traditional dungeons those games would be perfect.
@@brendontallman1460 I also prefer traditional dungeons, but I didn’t hate the Divine Beasts. Those coupled with the shrines throughout the game didn’t really make me feel that the dungeon element was missing- just that it was being presented in a different style. I also really enjoyed two of the TotK temples (Wind & Thunder) despite not being traditional. That being said, if your argument is simply wanting traditional dungeons back, then yeah, I actually agree. And I don’t think Nintendo disagrees either since EoW has traditional dungeons again. The part I was moreso talking about is having the world itself being highly restrictive and limiting exploration. That, I don’t think they should go back to.
@@WindMageMaster ya I’m definitely glad the worlds are more open now but certain elements shouldn’t have left, for example collecting items in dungeons that help you progress through the game. That’s one aspect I love and I feel like they still could have made that work in these newer games but at the end of the day they took a big risk mixing up the formula and it paid off financially for them so they’re gonna do what makes them money at the end of the day. 🤷🏻♂️
@@brendontallman1460 Yeah, but I viewed the new powers as replacements to items. I personally don’t really miss the item stuff quite as much. Unless they introduce a whole batch of crazy new gear… getting the hookshot or bombs or the bow for like the 12th time in a row is really underwhelming now. Even in EoW, getting Link’s sword, bow, and bombs in the dungeons was just… eh. Helpful, but not that exciting. And yeah, they still listen to critiques as they move forward. For example, Aonuma just said in a recent interview that they made changes to EoW due to TotK criticism. BotW was also a response to SS criticism. TP was from the outcry of TWW. It even goes as far back as AlttP returning to form after AoL. If you go through the history of releases, you’ll see the devs always take the criticisms into account when proceeding. Even with TotK, they returned to traditional bosses, upped the music involvement, added caves, made the dungeons more themed. Those were some critiques from BotW. They don’t listen to every last criticism, nor should they, but I don’t think you need to worry about them never listening to fans. Their track record shows they do, even more recently with EoW.
I'm normally a purist and I dont usually like change, but I admit Breath of the Wild was a breath of fresh air to me. It was true to tradition just enough that while i would also be happy for more traditional Zelda games, I'm happy for BOTW/TOTK.
I too have been playing Echos of wisdom. At first I wasn't so sure if I was going to like it. But after getting a little ways into the game, I started to understand the mechanics better. And actually it's not that bad of a game at all. I do like how it seems to have kind of the linear sense the original Zelda games. I have played breath of the wild and I have played tears of the Kingdom. I love the graphics in those two games in terms of full 3D effect. However they just don't have the same linear test as the original Zelda games. My favorite of the original ones would be ocarina of time. I definitely would love to see a remastered for that game. Including improvements to graphics.
What helps them a little is that they brought all the old school Legend of Zelda games on online. They should do that for all their main games which helps them in the long run like they can say they have 12 games off Zelda on the Switch due to Online
Give me my classic massive dungeons in newer zelda games y did Nintendo abandoned the huge legacy dungeons in older games am i the only person here that actually played zelda specifically for the dungeons and puzzles that was the most enjoyable part of the experience especially in ocarina of time finding a new dungeon to explore and figure out the puzzles until u find the boss key to fight the boss was so fun to me i miss that experience its gone now tho who said we can’t have open world with huge dungeons i dont understand how that isnt possible the sad reality is that these new audiences of ppl prob dont like dungeons and the sales r higher with the new Zelda’s which had no dungeons so i believe Nintendo isnt gonna add the classic dungeons that I know and loved i haven’t owned a zelda game since Skyward sword couldn’t afford a switch and when i found out Botw didn’t have dungeons i never cared to by a switch im now on ps5 playing Elden Ring and games that actually have dungeons in them ill always miss Zelda but it is no longer the franchise i grew up with and loved rip Zelda future
The things I want to see include the following 1. Ditch the chibi style for the 2D games. It was a fun novelty, but the novelty has worn off. Plus it would be difficult to take the Oracle Games seriously if they have that style. Especially since in the original game, Veran commits some of the most heinous acts in the series for fun, and it will be difficult to take her seriously with a cutesy artstyle 2. If the OG Ganondorf ever returns, let him keep his more likable and charismatic character quirks such as him being a genuinely honorable villain, and show a bit more of his sympathetic backstory that was established in Wind Waker. But at the same time, don’t turn him into Bowser. 3. Do more than just remaster the games that are being remade. Do something to improve them, as well as change anything that contradicts the current lore. 4. Make some of the final fights especially in the remakes more difficult (especially the Ganon fights)
BotW and TotK are basically everything I ever dreamed of the series becoming when I first picked up an N64 controller to play Ocarina of Time in 1998. I'm extremely happy with them. 2D Zelda doesn't hit the same for me. For a new 3D Zelda I will always count down the hours, minutes and seconds until I can get my hands on that game at a midnight release - but for 2D games I'll often walk past them in an isle at a store months after release and be like "oh yeah, that's a thing, might check it out" haha.
@@timmy3441 the original Legend of Zelda was my first game in the franchise and even though I accidentally ruined my save and stopped playing after a week, (I've since picked it back up lol) BotW and TotK gave me the exact same feeling. the pure freedom to figure it out on your own is just the best feeling. I adore those games so much
Would love to see a remake of Twilight Princess but in UE 5.4+ or newer. Long Live Wolf Link. He’s still my favourite of all Links. Hate so much they killed him off in TOTK. Was so disappointed with that. And was lazy Imo.
I really hope the top down style is given to Zelda as a protagonist. Even if Link isn’t the one who needs saving I think the formula works great for this style of game.
Let me know if you’re happy with the direction of Zelda games! Also, please hit the like button before you leave! :)
I think it's good for 2D Zelda games to release between the 3D Zelda games.
I'm excited about this new opportunity that Zelda is going ❤❤❤
More entrees are always met with great enthusiasm, especially for the die hard fans like myself who have been playing the franchise since the 80's or 90's. I like the variation between linear and the newer open world concept. But I do hope it all stays within the same console unlike what we were used to with 2 games per 3D console and handheld. It makes the players have a collection of consoles. I rather invest the money in new games. Especially since we are currently traveling around the world, having just the Switch with so many Zelda games on it to play is just amazing as it wouldn't be possible carrying all the original consoles along. Love doing a periodic marathon of all the franchises games. Enjoy finishing EOW, I personally really enjoyed the game, going for round 2!
I’m glad Aonuma-san is taking different approaches to the Zelda series and giving us a variation of experiences.
Family all FINAL Zelda Eliminate 🗑️😭🏆
Open World + Linear Dungeons= Perfect Modern Zelda Game
Why is that hard to understand? Remake original its the same. You can do the dungeons in any order, but metroidvania style you need special items to get to other area. Seems simple.
Y cant they just do open world plus massive dungeons like in twilight princess i want traditional dungeons like ocarina of time with huge boss battles y is that gone now days are the majority of ppl really into no dungeons in Zelda cus thats what made zelda zelda y am i the only one who actually enjoyed the dungeons
@riderz_13_78 you're not the only person. I really didnt enjoy totk/botw due to lack of dungeons/tools(not dumb tools on a tablet)/unique massive bosses. I found the shrines annoying as heck and just not fun. Totk just feels like minecraft now anyways. People arent playing to play through the story. Theyre playing to see what they can build and what trickshots they can pull off so they can post on boobtube/craptok. None of which i will watch and all of which i have to click "do not recommend". Rant over
Yeah the two styles aren’t incompatible. They already restrict you from climbing anything in the shrines. Instead of 100+ of those make 10 really big ones with a unique theme in each. It was forgivable in BotW but a direct sequel should have addressed that instead of repeating it.
So... the first Zelda game on the NES?
Gimme Windwaker HD and Twilight Princess HD already pls
Yes that's all We NEED!
We desperately need Twillight Princess HD
@@LordMuzhy Yes Twilight Princess is the BEST Zelda game of all time well personality my FAVOURITE
@@Leopez02 a complete remake of Twillight on Switch 2 would be amazing
It's on the Wii u
Nintendo needs 3 Zelda teams
Dev team A - 3d new Zelda
Dev team B - 2d new Zelda
Dev team C - remake / remaster
Well team C graduated on team B, we will see if they will continue to do the work C or if big N would recruit a new team.
Isn't that already the case though?? Isn't that what they have??
Nintendo needs a team above these
A team able to create a massive, deep game plan where multiple parallel universes overlap, intersect giving rise to wonderful interactions and tricky puzzles...
A team able to expertly explore the deep recesses of technology for creating a true superior experience beyond the limits of its ephemeral work that is Breath of the Wild.
Team Ai - 3D open world
Team Aii - 3D linear
Nintendo fans I want remake this that this that this that..
😂 That don't want any new games
It’s so simple we WANT open world Zelda with SOME linear aspects in progression while ALSO having open side quests, puzzles, ect that can be done in any order that are completely optional! Cmon Zelda team every other open world understands this concept.
I don't want open world zelda at least not like BotW/TotK. I don't want a zelda like either of those cause they sucked
@@ZombifiedBuizel I don't think they sucked... but I miss the old dungeons
@@ZombifiedBuizelthank you. i HATED botw and totk. bring back linear games
That's literally what you got... in fact those games are very complicated in the way that they ebb and flow between linear and open
@@ZombifiedBuizel I didn’t like botw or Totk either. But not because it was open world but because it was an open world that sucked. It was just a korok seed and shrine farming game with bad stories and terrible “dungeons”. Oh and the voice acting was terrible as well, pretty everything was terrible tbh lol
We need probably four Zelda teams, honestly:
-open world
-3D linear-ish
-2D
-spinoff
And in a six year stretch get one game from each team and maybe two remakes/remasters.
TZP... The Zelda company (?). 🤣
Remasters and most remakes would likely be ousourced. That's what they've done in the past.
I’d be interested in a 3D Zelda that’s kind of a hybrid of linear and open aspects. Would be complicated to implement I’m sure.
@MatthewAvalos1 that's what i would consider Echoes of Wisdom and A Link Between Worlds to be. What exactly do you mean then?
my take is that ALBW and EoW are essentially 2D Zelda games, with openness being on a sliding scale and EoW being more open than every other 2D Zelda.
I think an alternative would be a truly 3D Zelda where you have an open world and some quests being linear and some being nonlinear, with gameplay progress being possible by doing some quests in any order but others being dependent on completion of a previous quest. That would be some place between BOTW, where you could do missions in any order or omit some of them, and something like OOT where you are absolutely required to beat dungeons and bosses before some other ones.
The top of my Zelda wishlist would be an Oracle of Ages/Seasons remake combo pack where both games are on the same cartridge, and the secret system has been reworked so that you can just claim the items from the other game as soon as you unlock them instead of having to punch in passwords.
I 100% agree. I loved Botw/Totk but they just felt completely different from the regular Zelda games. I miss games like Wind Waker, Ocarina of time, and Twilight Princess and would love to see future games like them. Still every now they can release a game like Botw.
To be fair, the original Legend of Zelda was open ended. A link to the past was Semi open ended. But I do agree that I would like some form on linearity from future titles.
Although very unlikely. Id love to see phantom hourglass and spirit tracks fully converted to 3d games in the style of wind waker obviously.
I'd love it too, because their stories and settings have a lot of potential but they are almost unplayiable because of all the blowing, close the ds, exc... features
I would love that too for full remakes I would also be happy for them to just bring them over with a kinda remaster look and redo some of the game mechanics because it’s not on a ds anymore but Yh would be great to see
A Shiek spinoff of how Zelda survived during OOT is all I'm asking for.
I mean she was probably just outside the border. We need more games outside Hyrule though I love world building. Holodrum, Labrynna, Hytopia, New Hyrule, etc. They should keep expanding the borders of the world.
That’s a fantastic idea
Problem with that is once you get a game exactly like that you'll be saying "all I'm asking for is this or that" all over again in a cycle😂
I mean, the closest you can get to that with what we have is in the official OOT manga where she asks Impa to use Sheikah magic to turn her into a sheikah boy until the time is right so she could hide right under Ganondorf's nose as his spy
That’s a big ask
My idea:
If the devs want to give us all the traversal tools at the beginning of an open world Zelda, that’s fine. But give us cool combat-oriented items, magic, weapons, that are themed to the boss and just make us feel that awesome upgrade feeling.
There is a lot of upgrade feeling in EoW, upgrading accessories, more powerful tier enemy echoes, various enemy mechanic upgrades (weather, noise, movement, elements), improved mobility echoes, link ability upgrades, Tri upgrades, tiered Smoothies, link combat ability unlocks, etc.
@nathanlaird Yup, this was exactly my thought. It feels like an enhanced version of LBW's system, which also gives you access to all your tools from the beginning. Honestly, I think this way of handling progression is fine so long as they continue to do it well and it serves a purpose.
Personally, I prefer the 3D Zelda games. Being able to swing a sword in various different ways, dodging enemy attacks and looking around every single room for clues and hints is probably the best part of the games.
I want Nintendo to create A Link to the Past Remake...😉
Theres a fan that did an remake looks good
The problem is that I don't like the visual style of the 2d games..
Never gonna happen
It's called a link between worlds
@@igosduikana3537 Its a sequel. The Japanese name is Triforce of the Gods 2
Ocarina of Time in BotW graphics would be a dream!
💯 the Best Game of the history definitely need a remake
Ew
i think oot 3d was good enough
Botw has shit graphics tho
I would prefer something closer to twilight princess
Before BotW and TotK my favorite Zelda game was Twilight Princess, but the one thing that always bugged me about that game was how restrictive it was, especially in terms of climbing and exploring areas outside of the storyline. That is why I completely fell in love with BotW. I LOVE exploring and spent the time between BotW and the LOOOOOONG wait for TotK exploring every inch of BotW's map several times over. Yes, I did find all 900 Koroks in BotW, and yes, I'm going to look for all of them in TotK too.
Seeing how far video games have evolved since my early days as a gamer way back in the days of Atari 🤯🤯🤯
Have a good collectathon!
WW and TP HD on switch. That's all all we've been asking for, for almost 8 years now. Please Nintendo. We'll pay full price for both games.
You can play that games on steam deck oled using emulator 😂😂
@@Mr.Chimpazee I don't own a steam deck, though I understand that I definitely could do that if I had one. I'm just saying, for years people have been begging for the HD ports to hit the switch
Ww hd is on wwi u. It has some graphic changes and some slite upgrades that make it better then the gamecube version to me. It has the same story.
Why would you settle for a simple port of the games? We need them remade not upscaled.
@@Sir_Adam They don't need to be remade. So far remakes have been needed due to the limitations on previous games - this isn't necessary for these games, which is why they got simple remasters.
I wouldn’t mind having a release cycle of one new top-down game, one new linear 3D game, some remasters/re-releases of classic 2D/3D games, possibly even remakes of classic releases, and a new open-air 3D release. Best way to fill out that ever growing dev time for open-air games.
My first experience with The Legend of Zelda was with Ocarina of Time back on my N64; and that was a magical experience one that only a Zelda game can reach upon. I spent countless hours playing it over and over for two major reasons: didn’t had much games since purchasing other games was expensive but also because the world was extremely well developed and all. Then I went on and played all the other entries in the franchise which made Zelda my favorite franchise to date. I must admit that I was expecting more depth regarding the story of Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. I enjoy their massive Hyrule and it’s a particular experience to dive deep in each corner of that incarnation of Hyrule but I miss the impactful plot twist we had with the previous titles such as the revelation in OoT, or the dramatic events of Skyward Sword. That said I hope that we will still get those kind of projects for 3D Zelda games not only some remakes/remasters but brand new games in that format.
That said, it’s great to see that the top-down Zelda games are still on the plans and still standing their ground, echoes of Wisdom is amazing and already one of my favorite already. And I must admit that the 2D Zelda games are in the majority my favorite style of Zelda games.
The problem is that without a good story, the whole experience of saving Hyrule or Zelda is meaningless and the player doesnt care and hence gets bored after the exploration phase. For me my magical zelda game is wind waker because the story and characters come to life and I care about their world. I wsnt to go back to my favorite characters and spend time with them. In botw or totk, there is not a single character i really want to spend more time with. With the exception of the terribly underexplored Sidon, they are all really bland
@@MarzipanCat. I understand completely. I also agree that Sidon is so underexplored! He is one of my favorites there as well! The story is at the top for me as well regarding the Zelda games unfortunately they already said that for development they said that the story is not the most important.
Not sure if it could help you look at botw and totk with a better look but what worked for me was consider Hyrule as a character. Like you mentioned regarding WW, you care for the characters there and feel good spending more time with them. One of the Zelda games that has strongly that approach to me is Majora’s Mask as well as Skyward Sword. But with botw and totk what worked for me to enjoy the games more and in such way was to consider Hyrule itself as a character and look deeper on what it had to offer and do spending more time within the realm was more enjoyable
@@CJ_IceCissalc but what did it have to offer? Everything is empty, some traces of houses... wells are same-y, the depth are same-y... the upteenth same-y hill is not going to be exciting :(
@@CJ_IceCissalc "story is not important." No, hunting down a million korok seeds for a literal pile of poo is "fun," but story is worthless.
The video starts at 2:52
Thank you.
thank god..too much yappin.
I don't need a fully linear AAA Zelda title, but would love to see more elements of it with more dungeons in an open world, caves, etc.
I personally do hope we get more Botw and Totk type games but aslo the classic Ocarina and Majoras Mask 3D style games. Echoes of Wisdom was really fun and a great game to play when taking a break from more complex Zelda games but I do hope it continues in some way even if not fully open world like the other two. As long as there is some variety in-between them I would be stoked for any new releases honestly.
I've realized after having spent some time playing botw and totk that I much prefer the classic Zelda formula (linear 3D & top-down). My best and most memorable experiences have been playing oot, tp, ww and sw. I really want more of that style! eow is also great and I'm really enjoying it!
More of that style...
Nah I rather more of Botw style..
Nintendo Games don't have enough Graphics that can mess with Playstation 5 an Xbox1 Graphics...
I agree! I had a BLAST playing TOTK and put over 100 hours in. But... I don't think I'll ever want to go back to it? Half the fun is the discovery of the world and the map. When you have complete freedom, you can do anything - and EVERYTHING, to the point that it's just not fun the second time through for me.
But the linear Zelda's? I've replaced them multiple times! Having a more curated experience allows me to lay back and enjoy the pre-determined puzzles, story-beats, plot twists, character and environment introductions, etc...
Plus, open world Zelda's are full of a lot of filler. Fun filler, yes, but filler nonetheless. 🤷
@@lilSchmoob 100% agree and on the same page as you👍
I grew up with ocarina of time and majoras mask, I personally want more of that 😢
@@lilSchmoob Yes, totally agree. And what drives me kind of crazy is that it doesn't even reward you for going the extra mile exploring those far away and irritating-to-get-to places…it's usually a Korok waiting for you or in the depths…nothing! 😅
Personally I think it would be interesting to mix the 3d Zelda game experience. Bring back key items , keep the large open worlds but limit some of the key sections behind necessary items, keep the side quests like shrines and koroks, classic style dungeons, bring back linear story lines, you could even keep the weapons system to be what it is currently or maybe a slightly dumbed down version. Either that or just have them separated and have massive open world 3d Zelda and classic linear story driven 3d Zelda imo
A 3d Zelda game is a console defining game, hopefully the switch 2 will deliver. Thanks for the quality content sunbro !!
I want another open world like BOTW and TOTK. I will gladly wait for that.
This video feels like a person who needs the last 2 pages in a 5 page paper. I feel like it could have been done in 5 mins tops.
Seriously I minimized it thinking we were pretty much done and there were still four minutes left
They could always make open world map that has some restrictions, like a dungeon that can't be entered until you get a key item from the story.
BOTW was great for what it did but when TOTK just followed with same thing the open world "go where ever when ever you want" kind of gameplay got old fast. The world can be open, but the way you get through the story should be more restricted.
And in TOTK you could totally cheese the puzzles or bypass them completely thanks to the new Zonai toys etc. It was novel but not particularly fun because it wasn't challenging 😬
Echoes of Wisdom does exactly this. Once you get past the first dungeon, the map opens up and you can go almost anywhere. But aside from the dungeons the story marks on your map, you can't enter any other major dungeons until the story says you can. You can scavenge the overworld for echoes, items and heart pieces and such though; but progression wise, you're only allowed to enter the dungeons the main quest currently has assigned.
I really like EOW. As someone who cant do all of the live action fighting in the previous games, it lets me enjoy the things i like in the franchise and is a great entry point. I'd love to see them put out a 3D version
I think what they should do is create a linear experience with classic Zelda dungeons but make the world feel open in the sense that there is a lot to do (sidequests) and explore within sections of the game (I am talking about classic areas like Eldin Volcano or gerudo desert). You could then progress by completing the mainline quest in each of these areas, get a certain item and then move on. The issue with Breath and Totk was it got repetitive. With a world a third or a fourth of the size of these games you would still have a lot of exploration but you could create content that felt "special" thoroughly.
Id love a remake of both oracle games and for a fresh experience since there was supposed to be a 3rd oracle game they should finish it up
We don't want another Ocarina of Time Remaster, we want a from the ground up Remake.
I honestly don’t want Nintendo to go back to having separate handheld and home console releases, the Switch is the perfect combination of both, why would anyone want to go back to those small scale handheld games that don’t have as much content as the home console games.
Or the notion that some games aren't "worthy" of a full console release.
I personally would love them to go back to that. Bigger fully fledged games are fantastic and definitely have their places. Playing them on my switch docked is great. Handheld also when I’m at home (like on the coach or in bed). But actually, when commuting or travelling with a switch, it’s not the kind of game I want to play. I miss the smaller handheld titles in those scenarios. It’s why I always end up going back to older Pokemon games or even Links Awakening when on the move. There’s a place for both. Even if they don’t fit with your playstyle. A lot of people, myself included, don’t want every game to be 100 hours
I'm with you. Keep it Switch style.
@Garrus-w2h But it is not considered mobile. The quality is much better and mobile games could not hold up on a TV. The games designed for Switch are full fledged in design.
@Garrus-w2h Also, what mobile console are you getting for $100?????
Breath and Tears are the right direction for me. Love the open world and free choice what to do next
Hot take: I really, really want to see a DLC release for Echoes of Wisdom that let's players see what Link is up to in the Still World.
Yeah that would be so dope 😮
BOTW was my first LoZ game and I know it’s quite different from traditional Zelda games but I love it so much. I hope they won’t abandon that format entirely
As a classic player, I too loved it and love the variety of all the games and fresh ideas. That's part of what I ❤ of the series.
My opinion on the “traditional” Zelda label:
BotW is very traditional Zelda. It’s basically the first time a 3D Zelda nailed the open-world adventure that most of the old 2D Zelda games made popular. It’s arguably the most “traditional” since the first game (and this was the devs stated intent). Nearly all “open world” franchises today list Zelda as an influence; even GTA.
The people who say it isn’t traditional and that it’s a huge departure apparently only played the 3D titles; which are very, very linear. I mean, Ocarina, MM, WW, Twilight, and SS are all fine games; but they are the untraditional ones, not the Switch titles.
Zelda games (at least most of the 2D ones) have been “open-world” since ‘86. That’s the real tradition.
@@prime-of-two3753 Yeah it's true that you can finish Minish Cap, Link's Awakening, Phantom Hourglass and Sprit Tracks in any order you want 😏
I played almost all games (except zelda II and those of the CDI) but I can say that the first Zelda game is not representative of the traditional side of this saga, it was just a blank page on which the next games came to add new ideas to give it the identity it has today, with time new ideas were implemented in each new opus, ideas that have become dear to the hearts of the players.
There is no problem with the fact that the game is linear, at least like that you feel that you are evolving in the story and that the difficulty getting more and more harder with time whereas with the strategy of BotW, as all the areas are accessible from the beginning, everything has been made easier for the players and the more you advance the more everything becomes very easy, the last bosses you can beat them with so much ease.
All Zelda games (after the first and before A Link Between Worlds), whether 2D or 3D, are not open worlds, they are rather semi-open, in Hyrule you can almost go wherever you want but to advance in the scenario you must follow a certain order and have certain items to solve puzzles and that is what a real Zelda game is: Exploration + tough dungeons + puzzles + fights, not just exploration + combat like the first game was and BotW.
@prime-of-two3753 I've only played BotW, TotK, and the og Legend of Zelda so far and that's totally what I was thinking! Playing the original after some botw really just made BotW feel like a direct adaptation of everything it wanted to accomplish in the first place. A great video about this here on yt is called "the question no one asks miyamoto" or something like that
It funny how people complain about a game on how it doesn’t feel like a classic game and when they do they also complain about it. To me I base a game on good story and fun gameplay. So as long it good I’m in.
Because they are nostalgic weirdo 😂😂😂
Let me tell you that the story from Tears of the Kingdom its not good at all.
@@JapaneseTop1 Only you 🤣🤣🤣
It's almost like the fandom contains different people
And thats why TotK was disappointing. It had a bad story.
This probably dates me a bit, but My first experience with Legend of Zelda was playing Link to the Past on my cousin's SNES way back in the day. Needless to say, I was hooked.
Solid intro to the series.
My intro was the original Legend of Zelda back in the late 80s 👴🏻
I hope we get a remake of Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 to rework the motion control mechanics making them streamlined to traditional controls
I hope they do a mix between BOTW TOTK (with actual dungeons) and Links Awaken.
I hope Nintendo does make another traditional 3D Zelda game, because imagine the hype!
I hope they go back to how they use to be cause breath and tears temple were to short and I hated breakable weapons and that the master was optional
Right now, all I want from the series is Wind Waker + Twilight Princess for Switch, and a Switch remake of Phantom Hourglass + Spirit Tracks.
I'm an open world games addict. I don't care who makes them. There is something freeing and fresh about open world games. The only thing I would say to Nintendo is when making an open world game don't leave so much wasted space where there is just nothing but a lot of walking and nothing to do.
I think that’s part of what makes it beautiful. Being able to just enjoy the landscape, trekking to your next destination. I don’t need something flashing at me every ten seconds, I think having those open spaces just adds to the beauty of an open world game but that’s just my opinion. You actually feel like your traveling somewhere and you don’t know what to expect around each hill, mountain or river.
@@matthewfrechin1484 I kind of agree. There's a balance between things to do and nothing to do but I prefer the expansive feeling of botw and tears. Compare that to something like Immortals Fenyx Rising which felt artificially jammed with stuff. It made the game world feel like a game world where botw the tears retained their "miniature garden" vibe.
@@matthewfrechin1484 It's unrewarding, though. I am playing a game. If I want to stroll around and explore, I can go to the local forest or park.
I think the Zelda franchise has always been about being innovative and implementing new things into every game, like how Ocarina introduced not only time travel but unique songs to be played for fast travel, Wind Waker had it's (at the time) MASSIVE open sea to explore, just always been about innovation. I love the classic dungeon style we had but I also love the new direction of an open world, it makes me feel even more like Link just going about Hyrule as I please. So, I love the huge open world and I think they can continue this but at the same time I feel like a release of a more classic dungeon style game alongside (maybe not at the exact same time) that open world would be fun.
Hey Nintendo how about you give us those TP and Wind Waker ports
You can play that games on steam deck oled using emulator 😂😂
"You can spend $400 USD to play an emulator 😂😂😂"
Doesn't sound too enticing to me, tbh. Rather just play a port for $40-$60 directly from Nintendo.
I dont want a simple PORT of those games, I want them to be remade!!! Why settle for less? BRUH
@@Sir_Adam cause I’ve never played them and wind waker at least doesn’t need one there are other games that will get remakes way before those rather not wait 10+ years just want to play those games in its HD form and I’ll be happy and then they will have every 3d Zelda available for the switch
@@Mr.Chimpazee Why would I waste hundreds of dollars on an emulator to play games I can't own?
I'd rather just pay $50 for an officially released game I can actually possess and play as intended.
We can easily get open world Zelda games that still have 8-10 dungeons, dungeon items, and a linear story, just have to find a happy medium of both
I was in love with echoes in the first hour
It got boring so fast. New Zelda games always take top priority for me. But EOW was a let down. After I beat Gerudo last week, I havnt played it since.
@@blazers4life994 I completely agree with you
@@blazers4life994why did you find it boring?
@nathandorf7964 I'm just not a fan of the battle mechanics. This Zelda game just didn't give me the excitement and enjoyment other Zelda games did. But I won't say it's a bad game. It's just not for me.
I recently received Echoes for my birthday and I am loving it. It reminds me so much of the games I played when I was younger but with a fresh take. I haven't finished it yet since I'm really taking my time and exploring the world in much the same way I did with the OG games. It's been a lot of fun.
I don't want to see another Zelda game with breakable weapons and I'd like a more traditional style game for the titular princess.
Echoes of Wisdom is fine, just got me craving for a more badass version of Zelda like she appears in Twilight Princess.
OoT and MM are long overdue for a proper remake-not remaster-with photorealistic graphics or in a darker BotW style plus robust voiceacting (including silent and speaking options for Link) as well as expanded content such as new side-quests and items, but the focus should be on the enhancement of the core storytelling wherever possible with everything else in service of it; as for MM, weren’t there cut dungeons in the N64 version? 🤔 Why not resurrect those dungeon concepts and redesign them for the remakeover? The same can be said for WW if Nintendo were to do an eventual remakeover too.
If the remakeovers of OoT and MM are wildly successful, Nintendo should make a brand-new sequel to OoT/MM and create a Hero of Time trilogy with the new game titled, The Legend of Zelda: The Lost Hero of Time; another good subtitle, albeit wordy, would be The Forgotten Hero of Time.
The Lost Hero of Time could feature both Links at the end of OoT and MM who must work together to defeat Ganondorf who managed to get his hands on Majora’s Mask and don it, wreaking havoc on Hyrule once again and seemingly unstoppable for one hero… But perhaps two Heroes of Time can pull it off and seal the fissure between their timelines? 🤷🏻♀️
I've been loving Echoes of wisdom.. haven't played too much, but just beat the Gerudo area and moved on to Zora, but wow.. been so fun!!
Same except i just beat the zora area heading to gerudo
I think Echos hit a pretty good balance of story progression and player freedom.
After the first dungeon you can go just about anywhere on the map you want to go, but the story is locked until you complete the dungeons that are marked.
Me personally I didn't go to far off of the path set for me. I did explore every section of every area that I saw when I was in the area, but when it looked like I would cross into a later game area I would hold off and save the area for later exploration when it was time to head in that direction. This was very unlike Tears where you could almost play the game in reverse order.
I really wish they would atlest adopt that type of story philosophy for later TotK style game storytelling. Even BotW had a semi-linear progression if you didn't just run straight to Gannon. Also, the Echos showed you could have actual dungeons with free thought puzzle solving solutions because I have seen videos where people solve puzzles in totally different ways than I did. I hope that encourages more creative puzzles than "opening five locks to fight a boss."
I seriously hate Aonuma now. When asked about linear Zelda he said “why would players want to go back?” As someone who hated BotW and TotK, I feel he couldn’t be any more tone deaf. Yes the newer games sold very well, but to ignore the millions of people that miss the old linear game design is just a slap in the face to people who have supported Zelda for decades
You realize the series was almost shelved because it WASN’T open world? That’s confirmed from Nintendo insiders. From the years of Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword, all you’d almost ever see online was that the series was too linear and needed to be open world. And people would trash Aonuma for supporting the linear method. So he does exactly as the masses asked for, and now they’re saying they want the opposite. Hate yourselves, if anything.
@@WindMageMasterI think you don't understand the difference between the majority and a vocal minority. People asking for linear games ARE NOT the same people.
@@lightv700 Obviously. That doesn’t change a thing about my comment. Although actually, some of them are the same. I’ve known people who have flip flopped over the years on the subject. But that’s probably a small minority.
It doesn't even have to be linear. The very first Zelda game ever was open world. You could literally go wherever, but there were certain items and tasks to complete that if you didn't do that first, you're going to have a hellacious time running head-on into Dungeon 8. The same can be done now, but they've constricted their own creativity with this thinking that the only solution is to make breakable weapons and take away the dungeons altogether. I mean yeah they could absolutely go BOTW or TOTK style, but hide certain weapons, tools or armor inside the dungeons in a linear fashion that forces you to take on each dungeon by order. Or, make certain enemies impervious to certain weapons that you can't get until you've gone here and done this. There's plenty of ways to make a traditional dungeon-style Zelda with free open world; something is just missing and I don't know if it's the creativity or the passion, but if they don't do something big on the next one, they're going to Ubisoft themselves.
My problem with BotW and TotK is that they don't feel like Zelda games at all to me. It's like it's trying to become it's own form of Dark Souls/Elden Ring.
The first problem I have is that Link is almost unrecognizable to me with the lack of a traditional green tunic. It doesn't have to be exactly the same as the others but I don't how others feel but I personally feel Link just isn't Link without his iconic green tunic. It's like changing Mario's iconic red and blue overalls outfit to a polo shirt and khakis and taking away his iconic hat so instead of having his M emblem on his hat it would be on his shirt.
Then there is the lack of traditional Zelda style dungeons. I know in BotW there was literally no real dungeons they just felt like a series a puzzles with a couple enemies in the way.
I also don't like these games' durability system. I don't have a problem with weapon durability as long as it's done right but these games make your weapons feel like they're made of glass. So you spend so much of your time hoarding weapons and worrying about running out of them.
Lastly I really don't like how the Master Sword has become this useless weak weapon that breaks just as easily as the other weapons you find on the ground or from other enemies. It's like a slap is the face to the Zelda series.
So personally I don't very much like this new direction of Zelda games and I hope someday we can have at least one more traditional style Zelda game for us old school Zelda fans. I mean at the very least port Twilight Princess and Wind Waker to Switch!
If you have the know-how I would recommend some of the OoT ROM hacks out there. The more well made ones do a good job satisfying that yearning for Real Zelda.
They're nothing like any of the games you just mentioned.
Breath of the Wild isn't the first game where you start in different clothing and have to earn your green tunic. You are free to unlock it and wear it as you please.
The dungeons in Breath of the Wild where not much different to those in other games. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the four Divine Beasts were dungeons.
Weapon durability is indeed a huge miss and just a not fun game mechanic. Having the Master Sword even being part of it is a huge mistake.
There's nothing to suggest this is how Zelda games will be moving forward, though. Most new Zelda games introduce a new mechanics that disappears after one or two games, and Nintendo tends to listen to fan feedback.
Totk released 7 years later because Botw was (and is) selling really well and they didnt want to cannibalize their sells
IDK, maybe i'm wrong. But when you talk about the Zelda series you seem to forget that the series started out with an open world (as Open as 80s game could be
anyway) exploration game on the NES called The legend of Zelda. Definitely NOT linear, thank god, LOL. I also notice that when talking about the ""OLD"" zelda games.
You never go back any further than Ocarina of Time. the 5th game in the series. I mean i get it. That was your introduction to Zelda. As it was for so many fans today.
I get that, but. The NES OG & SNS A Link To The Past were great games in their time too 2d/Top Down Exploration based non linear "Classic Zelda for my era
Like other people mentioned and I agree with your point with the lack of representation in the video; a Open World concept like what the first LoZ (NES) was (aka the core mechanics) but reimagined in a 3D space which was what BotW should've been, with memorable characters and a well-written story would be perfect. I do like the new direction in the sense of the open world, but the lack of dungeons and impactful items was what really separated BotW from the other zelda games. It's a reason why I still go back to many of the old zeldas yet I can't even think about going back to BotW and playing that a second time. For sure probably won't play it a third time.
@@lutetiunn everyone ripped on Botw for it's lack of dungeons. But, with all due respect. For me the shrines & divine beasts more than made up for that. As for the Dungeon Item/Item you found in the dungeon. That helped explore new areas of the map, or fight enemies. They could have been in the Divine Beasts & a few of the shrines, sure. II give ya that. BotW isn't perfect. Just by far, the best Zelda game since Ocarina of Time. Anyway, Unpopular Opinion, But. I also liked that BoTw had no Companion Characters. No Midna, Fi, Ezlo, Tatl or Navi. That idea worked with Ocarina of Time. Being the First 3d game in Zelda. But Nintendo just had to repeat it. In most of the games for years
@@GregKoster-o2j and really, the Divine Beasts give you abilities that help a ton with the mechanics of the game itself. Revali's Gale and Mipha's Grace are huge huge lifesavers for me lol.
@@saltysyd99 Good Point, I wasn't even thinking about the Champion's Abilities but yeah they are helpful too. My fav is Urbossa's Fury. Even Lynels are super easy to kill, with it
There is nothing stopping them from doing an open world zelda game on a new hyrule world map that has linear style dungeons with key items.. even if the dungeons can be done in any order like where is the hookshots, iron boots, etc...
EoW was enough “open world” for Zelda. Not everything needs to be huge games with open world and a trillion hours of game play…that ship has sailed with games already. Give us original ideas in solid games and you’ll end up with more games like EoW that are fun, gravitating and unique.
I think a happy compromise that they've paved the way for is a game design that doesn't prohibit full exploration, but items from dungeons make traversal into some areas much easier. I think Echoes did this pretty well, with a mix of some areas requiring story events to explore and some echoes making exploration of some regions a lot easier
As of right now I have next to zero faith in Aunoma to deliver an “actual” top down Zelda. Just more “reimaginings” he’s been going on about for like the past 15 years. I genuinely believe he doesn’t get or like the earlier games that I love. I truly miss the days getting games like Link to the past, Link’s Awakening, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Oracle of seasons and Ages. No gimmicky controls, decent story’s, decent puzzles that could actually leave you stumped occasionally because wasn’t this do it your way bs that makes atleast one solution always oblivious, and graphical styles that I actually cared for. Guess the last games up my alley where Twilight Princess and Link between Worlds.
I feel the same way. I had no excitement for Echoes of Wisdom, its just more sandbox gameplay that I dont want.
I personally would love an OG Legend of Zelda/Adventure of Link remake, with a dungeon maker perhaps?
Also, LOZ started as an open world/non-linear game, from the start you were given the option to take a sword or not. Lately, I skip the sword until I absolutely have to grab the master sword.
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Honestly, I think the accordion design of the original LoZ and Echoes of Wisdom are ideal mix of linear and open
They should re master Zelda 2 as a side scroller beat them up game
I would like that mini bosses in the overworld give something permanent. Dropping just consumables like in BOTW/TOTK makes them feel like normal but too involved enemies.
Aonuma literally insulted the Zelda fans who want traditional Zelda. Linear will always be superior to open world. Once in a while an open world game is fine, but restriction is GOOD.
he never insulted anyone. he just said he doesn't understand why anyone would want to go back to that
@@emerylsg because of nostalgic fever 😂😂
@@Mr.Chimpazee you should see how this guy straight up used the r-slur against me in his argument. because ooooohhh
I'd like it if we could play as both Link and Zelda in a Zelda game.
The next BIG Zelda News are about the Legend of Zelda live action movie not games already because Echoes of Wisdom is still going on and rule i'm so IN of it and about of Zelda movie I would LOVE to see and hope Link dosen't talk as in the games, Tom Holland or some other young actor be Link, Anya Taylor-Joy Zelda and Dwayne the Rock Johnson Ganondorf that would be so AWESOME we really lives EXCITING times in Zelda's history with games Totk, Echoes of Wisdom, Windwaker and Twilight Princess defienitily Twilight Princess HD Remakes and upcoming Zelda games for the Switch 2 and Zelda movie i'm so EXCITED! 😮
Link DOES talk in the games, though. He is clearly relating details about his journey to other characters in the game, details that can't be understood by a simple head nod. We don't hear/see/read what he is saying because we're intended to BE his character while we're playing. The movie doesn't need to present Link as mute in that way.
Dungeon Items are critical for keeping things fresh as you're playing. New mechanics change the flavor of the dish, and it's good to keep seasoning it as you go.
I'd be interested to see a more amorphous game structure applied to 4 *massive* dungeons that each has a dungeon item in it. You can go to them in any order and get a certain distance in. You collect an item that helps you get a that far... but that item can also help you get further in the other dungeons/make shortcuts. You'd go back and forth getting stronger and more capable each time you enter a dungeon.
More and more speculations and useless blabla.
Then don’t watch! Easy.
At least its not about switch 2, chill dude
I think might sound weird but I want a Link between worlds to get the persona 3 reload treatment. I want it to transform for 2d to 3d. I think it would be a unique remake for that game.
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Why tf do you want remakes of old games!? Those old games already exist as is, some of them already remade! Any development time they waste on a remake is development time subtracted from an actual new masterpiece in the making. Come on man
I much prefer 3D linear games. I did not enjoy Breath of the Wild, at all.
I think it would be awesome if they remake the first zelda game as a 3d game, not a sandbox game. It can be an open world. I am aware it may take a while, also think it will be well worth it for us old school zelda fans and new fans alike.
Nintendo is Still letting the wind waker and twilight princess to die on the Wii U just because Nintendo said no to the wind waker on Switch so they are saying yes they are going to let it die on the Wii U.
I haven’t yet played Echoes but I want to! And I would love to see remasters of the other games. Seasons and Ages for sure, maybe 1 and 2, Link to the Past, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Four Swords Adventures. Really focus on the other games and give more time between the ones already remastered.
Nostalgia is great. But at the end of the day, they are devs. Botw and totk is what generated mass amounts of revenue internationally. Again, I get the nostalgia, but they’d be dumb if main focus wasn’t the new 3D open world formula.
Can’t wait for “_____ of Power” and “_____ of Courage” to be the next two top down Zelda games
@@What_In_This_World imagine playing as ganon lol
I would love a remake of Ocarina. Love all the games though.
It would be so beautiful to see a game where you could play as both Link and Zelda, maybe like a NieR:Automata approach where you switch protagonists after restarting a finished save file and get a different experience that still parallels. Easier on developers but still can give more variety and replayability.
Don’t get me wrong, botw and ToTK were amazing games but I grew up on traditional linear Zelda games and in my opinion nothing beats those but I have a feeling that we will never get those again which really makes me sad because those older games are what put Zelda on the map and it feels like Nintendo is basically saying “fuck you” to all of their older fans who grew up with traditional Zelda games
I grew up with the “traditional” linear Zelda games, starting with OoT on the N64. And BotW/TotK was one of the best steps forward for me. I want the freedom to explore and craft my own journey… not be forced through a tunneled experience. Also, growing up with the series, a lot of the reactions I would see online was that the series was too linear and needed to be more open. Now I’m seeing the opposite.
That being said, I think the style of ALBW & EoW is key for moving forward. Those are a mix of linear & non-linear… a good bridge for both types.
@@WindMageMaster ehh I guess my biggest issue was that they abandoned traditional dungeons, I love the openness of the new games but the dungeons from botw and totk were hot garbage. If those would’ve been traditional dungeons those games would be perfect.
@@brendontallman1460 I also prefer traditional dungeons, but I didn’t hate the Divine Beasts. Those coupled with the shrines throughout the game didn’t really make me feel that the dungeon element was missing- just that it was being presented in a different style. I also really enjoyed two of the TotK temples (Wind & Thunder) despite not being traditional.
That being said, if your argument is simply wanting traditional dungeons back, then yeah, I actually agree. And I don’t think Nintendo disagrees either since EoW has traditional dungeons again. The part I was moreso talking about is having the world itself being highly restrictive and limiting exploration. That, I don’t think they should go back to.
@@WindMageMaster ya I’m definitely glad the worlds are more open now but certain elements shouldn’t have left, for example collecting items in dungeons that help you progress through the game. That’s one aspect I love and I feel like they still could have made that work in these newer games but at the end of the day they took a big risk mixing up the formula and it paid off financially for them so they’re gonna do what makes them money at the end of the day. 🤷🏻♂️
@@brendontallman1460 Yeah, but I viewed the new powers as replacements to items. I personally don’t really miss the item stuff quite as much. Unless they introduce a whole batch of crazy new gear… getting the hookshot or bombs or the bow for like the 12th time in a row is really underwhelming now. Even in EoW, getting Link’s sword, bow, and bombs in the dungeons was just… eh. Helpful, but not that exciting.
And yeah, they still listen to critiques as they move forward. For example, Aonuma just said in a recent interview that they made changes to EoW due to TotK criticism. BotW was also a response to SS criticism. TP was from the outcry of TWW. It even goes as far back as AlttP returning to form after AoL. If you go through the history of releases, you’ll see the devs always take the criticisms into account when proceeding. Even with TotK, they returned to traditional bosses, upped the music involvement, added caves, made the dungeons more themed. Those were some critiques from BotW. They don’t listen to every last criticism, nor should they, but I don’t think you need to worry about them never listening to fans. Their track record shows they do, even more recently with EoW.
I'm normally a purist and I dont usually like change, but I admit Breath of the Wild was a breath of fresh air to me. It was true to tradition just enough that while i would also be happy for more traditional Zelda games, I'm happy for BOTW/TOTK.
I too have been playing Echos of wisdom. At first I wasn't so sure if I was going to like it. But after getting a little ways into the game, I started to understand the mechanics better. And actually it's not that bad of a game at all. I do like how it seems to have kind of the linear sense the original Zelda games. I have played breath of the wild and I have played tears of the Kingdom. I love the graphics in those two games in terms of full 3D effect. However they just don't have the same linear test as the original Zelda games. My favorite of the original ones would be ocarina of time. I definitely would love to see a remastered for that game. Including improvements to graphics.
I wouldn't mind them keeping the open world exploration and stuff but make temples mandatory.
Still waiting on a remake of Seasons and Ages please and thanks!
What helps them a little is that they brought all the old school Legend of Zelda games on online. They should do that for all their main games which helps them in the long run like they can say they have 12 games off Zelda on the Switch due to Online
Or you can be an old head like me that loves all of their releases, so much effort is put into all of these titles.
Give me my classic massive dungeons in newer zelda games y did Nintendo abandoned the huge legacy dungeons in older games am i the only person here that actually played zelda specifically for the dungeons and puzzles that was the most enjoyable part of the experience especially in ocarina of time finding a new dungeon to explore and figure out the puzzles until u find the boss key to fight the boss was so fun to me i miss that experience its gone now tho who said we can’t have open world with huge dungeons i dont understand how that isnt possible the sad reality is that these new audiences of ppl prob dont like dungeons and the sales r higher with the new Zelda’s which had no dungeons so i believe Nintendo isnt gonna add the classic dungeons that I know and loved i haven’t owned a zelda game since Skyward sword couldn’t afford a switch and when i found out Botw didn’t have dungeons i never cared to by a switch im now on ps5 playing Elden Ring and games that actually have dungeons in them ill always miss Zelda but it is no longer the franchise i grew up with and loved rip Zelda future
I'm 57 and I absolutely love breath and tears and want more like them.
Without a doubt! I want more games that are linear, smaller, top down, and FRESH!
I’m 100% inlove with echoes. Bravo! Keep up this mindset please.
The things I want to see include the following
1. Ditch the chibi style for the 2D games. It was a fun novelty, but the novelty has worn off. Plus it would be difficult to take the Oracle Games seriously if they have that style. Especially since in the original game, Veran commits some of the most heinous acts in the series for fun, and it will be difficult to take her seriously with a cutesy artstyle
2. If the OG Ganondorf ever returns, let him keep his more likable and charismatic character quirks such as him being a genuinely honorable villain, and show a bit more of his sympathetic backstory that was established in Wind Waker. But at the same time, don’t turn him into Bowser.
3. Do more than just remaster the games that are being remade. Do something to improve them, as well as change anything that contradicts the current lore.
4. Make some of the final fights especially in the remakes more difficult (especially the Ganon fights)
BotW and TotK are basically everything I ever dreamed of the series becoming when I first picked up an N64 controller to play Ocarina of Time in 1998. I'm extremely happy with them.
2D Zelda doesn't hit the same for me. For a new 3D Zelda I will always count down the hours, minutes and seconds until I can get my hands on that game at a midnight release - but for 2D games I'll often walk past them in an isle at a store months after release and be like "oh yeah, that's a thing, might check it out" haha.
@@timmy3441 the original Legend of Zelda was my first game in the franchise and even though I accidentally ruined my save and stopped playing after a week, (I've since picked it back up lol) BotW and TotK gave me the exact same feeling. the pure freedom to figure it out on your own is just the best feeling. I adore those games so much
Zelda needs more 2d top down Zelda games. Ocarina is my favorite but there’s just something about a 2d Zelda game that just makes a great game.
Would love to see a remake of Twilight Princess but in UE 5.4+ or newer. Long Live Wolf Link. He’s still my favourite of all Links. Hate so much they killed him off in TOTK. Was so disappointed with that. And was lazy Imo.
I really hope the top down style is given to Zelda as a protagonist. Even if Link isn’t the one who needs saving I think the formula works great for this style of game.
We can even have an underwater world in future Zelda games especially for Open World that would actually be so cool
I want more Zelda games that have the Link's Awakening format too that art style is absolutely incredible same with BOTW and TOTK'S
WHERE'S WIND WAKER AND TWILIGHT PRINCESS?!
I heard on Wednesday that Nintendo is going to have a direct for the GameCube online I Hope the rumour is true
@@zarephal4998 I just want the HD versions😭🤌🏾
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