The Computer Chronicles - IBM Compatible Local Area Networks (1987)

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  • @proyectosit-sapmora8284
    @proyectosit-sapmora8284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was a Novell Netware LAN expert installing software, hardware and training from 1988 to 1993, it was a very grateful experience. My favorite version: Netware SFT 2.15 👍

  • @yabbaso
    @yabbaso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "there isn't a lot of silicon on that board...". It's literally bristling with chips. 😂
    I really love these shows. Really goes to show what we take for granted and what l where we've come from.

  • @JohnMichaelson
    @JohnMichaelson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My grandparents were pretty big PBS watchers but knew absolutely nothing about computers. Nevertheless they loved this show. The usual remark would be something like "Well, I don't understand a word they're saying but it's well-presented and clearly important to somebody!"

  • @artmaknev3738
    @artmaknev3738 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This looks so ancient, unbelievable how fast technology advances

    • @deckard5pegasus673
      @deckard5pegasus673 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not really, the base technology has changed very little since the 1980's.

  • @ЕрденЖумабеков-щ4и
    @ЕрденЖумабеков-щ4и 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    17:30 "programmers still need to get together and exchange ideas in face-to-face meetings - something a network has yet to replace"

    • @Aranimda
      @Aranimda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      2020 says hi.

    • @janalexandermyhrvold9554
      @janalexandermyhrvold9554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Interesting point by the narrator. I'm working in a virtual team and online working application like Teams lacks in providing adequate F2F interaction.

    • @harryparker9452
      @harryparker9452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually there was some programs on the IBM which allowed real time conversation via key and monitor using text messaging. Not email. I think it was called Buzz. Short 40 to 60 character messages real time. Very much like Twitter today. This was back in 1986 or 88, not sure which.

    • @ecavero1
      @ecavero1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Aranimda Two years later, I'm still programming and exchanging ideas remotely! Amazing how technology evolves!

  • @AnimalFacts
    @AnimalFacts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This computer network thing will never catch on.

    • @PSYCLOWN185
      @PSYCLOWN185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember when Nintendo was under fire for their lack of online functionality in the GameCube and someone at Nintendo was quoted in an issue of EGM saying something along the lines of "online gaming is a fad". I don't remember for sure if this was Iwata or someone else but i just remember thinking that was the dumbest thing i had ever heard an industry exec say.

  • @livesimplyandhumbly
    @livesimplyandhumbly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It wasn't until years later that the Computer Chronicles could afford an adult size desk.

  • @sandwichbreath0
    @sandwichbreath0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Who else gets disappointed/annoyed when the lights come up on one of the 1980s episodes and someone else is sitting in Gary's seat?

    • @karlimo4034
      @karlimo4034 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't watch pass 80's episodes just because Gary isn't in those. You get attached to hosts.

    • @KS-dk9cd
      @KS-dk9cd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Especially when it's George Morrow. He was a clown and was wrong about almost everything.

    • @mankind8088
      @mankind8088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EVERY
      SINGLE
      TIME

    • @bfrazer8696
      @bfrazer8696 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “And sitting in this week is Jan Lewis!”
      *Groans and immediately finds a different episode to watch*

  • @jimmcconville
    @jimmcconville 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The speed that they had to go at the end to keep within time... Brilliant

  • @SmersblerG
    @SmersblerG ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While you are not probably not using RS-232 at home, it is still widely used in manufacturing and industrial settings in 2023.

    • @mankind8088
      @mankind8088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And in 2024

  • @wallacelang1374
    @wallacelang1374 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is interesting to see how various local area networks provide services for authorized users.

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They still use pneumatic tube systems. They used to use them at Costco (and might still do; I haven't been there in years), and they use them at Abbotsford Hospital and Cancer Centre (the newest hospital in British Columbia).

    • @theoneandonly3035
      @theoneandonly3035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hospitals here in the US still use the tube the transfer some paper documents and even sometimes meds to the different units and nurse stations

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theoneandonly3035 Why not? It works fine.

    • @common_c3nts
      @common_c3nts ปีที่แล้ว

      Home Depot uses pneumatic tubes for money drops at registers.

  • @simplestatic3751
    @simplestatic3751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    That lotus 123 sounds pretty fancy. Where can I get this software for my company? We want to upgrade from our Windows 10 network.

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Windows 10 network"

    • @simplestatic3751
      @simplestatic3751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlownMacTruck windows 10 network - n. A network consisting of primarily Windows 10 clients. Hth

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simplestatic3751 That's… nonsensical. No one uses that as an actual term.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlownMacTruck no one uses that term anymore cause that's old man talk for computers show your elders some respect and get him a walker while your at it so he does not fall and break his hip

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raven4k998 It’s actually clueless talk. He may be old, but that doesn’t mean I need to respect his lack of network knowledge.

  • @firstlast9198
    @firstlast9198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For home or small office AppleTalk (LocalTalk) was by far the best.

  • @GamingWithBlitzThunder
    @GamingWithBlitzThunder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we should appreciate that today computer is a lot more simple, than the yesterday

  • @amandabr9562
    @amandabr9562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even though it's ancient computers, it's still pretty technical.

  • @tab8k
    @tab8k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m now running 10Gb network at home and 25Gb network in next 5-10 years. How times have changed. :D

  • @yelapa999
    @yelapa999 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love the 80's stylin' Cynthia Steele for some hot tech news dish!

  • @valentinoesposito3614
    @valentinoesposito3614 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It’s crazy how much technology has progressed in just 32 years. Is like looking at the Stone Age.

    • @crazyedo9979
      @crazyedo9979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you have some kind of a "Jurassic Park" in the production sector. The RS-232 interface is still ubiquitous today. Recently I have to fix a punch-tape-reader to get one of the dinosaurs back on line👍

    • @harryparker9452
      @harryparker9452 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea, and many people were there.

  • @dotmatrix7383
    @dotmatrix7383 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    4:47 Scuse me while I steal your Internets...

  • @ApoplecticDialectics
    @ApoplecticDialectics 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know that line in Fight Club where the narrator asks, "If you could fight any celebrity, who would you fight?" and Tyler Durden answers, "Shatner. I'd fight William Shatner."
    I'd fight Morrow.

  • @davideck2331
    @davideck2331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:56 my dream woman's hairstyle back in the day. I loved big hair! Still do. 04/04/2020 Who's still watching, or 'binge watching' sheltering in place???

    • @edwang8975
      @edwang8975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me. It is my morning programme, and I intend to watch every episode. They are all on my 'Watch Later' list, and I will probably never finish the list because I keep adding more interesting things.

  • @mr.h.4501
    @mr.h.4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow.. Who would of known that the Grapevine network was really the worlds first P2P network or Napster if you will :) These old videos brings back all sorts of warm and fuzzies to me.

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would HAVE....

    • @mr.h.4501
      @mr.h.4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vcvortex6356 Would of, Would Have, tomayto, tomahto (though tamato, just for you) whatever..

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh so you're proud of being dumb. Gotcha...

    • @mr.h.4501
      @mr.h.4501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vcvortex6356 If it bothers you.. and it appears it does, than purpose served - because if you were high and mighty with intellect I'm sure you'd have better things to do than troll youtube, but you obviously don't. Lol, you're such a smart guy.. I hope it makes you feel better while you look like an ass for responding to this. Have fun :)

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      *then

  • @movielover3416
    @movielover3416 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The year I was born in. I remember this episode of computer chronicles.

    • @alberoDiSpazio
      @alberoDiSpazio 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking of movies, This reminds me of the High Table Administration in the movie John Wick.

    • @tab8k
      @tab8k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! My 1YO is already coding her own network protocols to her custom stack. 😂👍🏻

  • @DavePoo2
    @DavePoo2 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:38 - Paul has got the Amiga 1000 out. Has he been messing around in DPaint?

  • @CaptchaNeon
    @CaptchaNeon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Richard Kent aka Dick Kent apparently isn't with DLM consultants anymore, it seems from researching the company on Google, the company no longer exists and he's worked for 4 companies since then but strangely enough for someone who was the President for multiple companies, you would think there would be pictures of him since computer chronicles, there isn't. All I could find out is that he's now 73

  • @andree1991
    @andree1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That last software from the review looks like a goddamn nightmare to use.

  • @johnsimon8457
    @johnsimon8457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:18 “Keytronic has to absorb the cost of a million dollar toxic waste cleanup… It has a new project called Quicksilver” … that’s an unfortunate name. Mercury poisoning in ground soil is a thing that still happens.

  • @NeblogaiLT
    @NeblogaiLT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    23:02 Wow, they had better robot news reading technology in 1987 than we have now

  • @TheRealLaughingGravy
    @TheRealLaughingGravy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the 1980's the computer magazines would have their yearly predictions about things to come, and every year some magazine would proclaim the upcoming year would be "The Year of the LAN." After a while, it became a kind of in-joke, as The Year of the LAN never materialized, certainly not for home users.

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it did. It just happened later in the 90s when more than one PC started to become common in homes.

    • @smorrisby
      @smorrisby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a lot of printer sharing now but the classic file sharing home LAN never materialised in any meaningful way.

    • @peplegal8253
      @peplegal8253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smorrisby : Now It's called MEDIA-CENTER (or MEDIA-SERVER). Pretty sure it's a very common way of file sharing via LAN for home users.
      Millions of people around the world have them. You can buy a "ready-to-use" or build one by yourself.
      I have friends who have been building those things since Windows 98.
      Right now I'm watching "Person of Interest" TV show stored in my media center, placed in a distant room.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว

      Microsoft tried with Windows Home Server, but that got wiped out by cheap NAS boxes running Linux.

  • @gli7utubeo
    @gli7utubeo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't banks still have those pneumatic tubes at the drive up window? (3:00)

    • @AlexAtGuilford
      @AlexAtGuilford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine do.

    • @katiemarshall8033
      @katiemarshall8033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Banks have a drive up window? Like a fast food place?

    • @JJVernig
      @JJVernig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do banks still have physical places? Last time I saw a bank from the inside is at least 10 years ago for a mortgage. Last time was a videocall.

  • @CenterpointConnect
    @CenterpointConnect 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im glad I will never have to install another MADGE 4/16 ISA Token Ring card in my life.....

    • @_chrisr_
      @_chrisr_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember those, we had over 1000PCs on token ring back in the 90s spread over two sites.

  • @benrobinson9533
    @benrobinson9533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He explaimed application level ie apps perfectly....now.I understand applications are at the command promp level....light bulb moment for me.....im only learning so go easy on me....

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do I complain about the inability to close the advert at the bottom of the video? EDIT: it's been fixed.

  • @sirius4k
    @sirius4k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg, look at all the things you can do with a personal computer!

    • @fredroberts8275
      @fredroberts8275 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly the biggest use for computers at this point was games.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:13 That magnifying glass with a wire on it ... what purpose does that wire serve?

  • @andree1991
    @andree1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the fuck was that at the end lol. She's like "plraplraplraplraplraplraplraplra" lol

  • @Blatstein
    @Blatstein ปีที่แล้ว

    2:57
    Aaaand we’re rolling 😂

  • @Nunavuter1
    @Nunavuter1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:09 Aren't RS-32 cables basically what we connect DSL modems/routers with now?

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. DSL (and cable and fiber) modems connect to PCs via Ethernet cables.

  • @EmberwolfXR
    @EmberwolfXR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    in the early days of computer chronicles gary was around all the time, but as his depression got worse you saw him less on the show! So every time i hear gary is not there, (i feel like rolling my eyes and saying. Kildall got a little lit last night and could not make it to the show)

    • @mitchellwodach2215
      @mitchellwodach2215 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      fucking Bill Gaytes

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Remember that Gary did the show pro-bono, he didn't get paid a penny so on the list of priorities it was secondary to running his company. Yes, he still ran a multi-million dollar company and had investment stakes in other startups, so he was a busy man. Plus, he didn't even live in the Bay area either so had to commute in to do the taping, which he couldnt' always schedule to do.

    • @KabelkowyJoe
      @KabelkowyJoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You forgot he had to travel half coutry just to be there also he had second research job plus he wrote Atari ST OS (windows)

  • @panama-canada
    @panama-canada 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cloud computing was already there.

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ahh memories

  • @pilotkid2011
    @pilotkid2011 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I just wanted to say that this video is a duplicate of the first one in this playlist.

  • @BryonLape
    @BryonLape ปีที่แล้ว

    3Com's Ethernet...that will never catch on....

  • @AndrewTubbiolo
    @AndrewTubbiolo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He should do an episode on TH-cam.

  • @BlackEpyon
    @BlackEpyon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nerdgasims.... Nerdgasims everywhere o_o

  • @mitchellwodach2215
    @mitchellwodach2215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that fan noise @ 6:20

  • @Mnaughten601
    @Mnaughten601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:48 So it once cost $80 to copy from one program and paste in another.

  • @derekfoulk4692
    @derekfoulk4692 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn @ 5:50 the Black guy just described web browsers !

    • @intrinia
      @intrinia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And he likes to burn in screens...

  • @Palin3
    @Palin3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did they get the woman of Random Access? And what is she on?

  • @C00LX100
    @C00LX100 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude at 5:12 predicted UI

  • @eng3d
    @eng3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:40 anti eyestrain! I forget about those

    • @georgemaragos2378
      @georgemaragos2378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi - that was the cheap $10 version
      The original method was to take the bezel of and have the mesh almost glued to the screen itself - the text is quite viewable.
      The flat mesh on the facing makes it slightly blurry and fuzzy, it gives you eye strain after a while
      Also the fluro lights overhead, you had mesh dividers placed in them to try and stop the hard light glare reflecting on the screen - the one above you was fine, it was one on the other side of the office what would show up somewhere in your screen
      Eventually we had a sort of baseball cap on the top of the screen that cut much of the glare, going to colour screens solve the high contrast shine between the black screen and the green text - amber screens helped a bit as the contrast was not as extreme
      Regards
      George

  • @beakt
    @beakt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:00 I'm cringing that they named the computer after the user. Bad idea! People come and go. And then everyone's drive map scripts say "Bob" even after he rage quit months ago!

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว

      But surely all the scripts are done from templates according to a database from HR. Once the records are updated, then all the machine mappings automatically update to match.

  • @andrewahern3730
    @andrewahern3730 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ctrl+c, ctrl+v, AND ctrl+f for only $80!

  • @ScoolHumorORIGINALS
    @ScoolHumorORIGINALS 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WLAN

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good job! You can type random words! Impressive.

  • @TheNemo65
    @TheNemo65 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    WIFI networking is still two decades away.

  • @thriftjunkgaming1670
    @thriftjunkgaming1670 ปีที่แล้ว

    "3com local area network" and so my career begain

  • @george78779
    @george78779 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Design to work from home in 2020.....

  • @lg2058
    @lg2058 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:36 Her neckchain. Like a rapper.

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @03:29 how fake is that typing on a scale of 0-10? :D
    Also,, that wonderful sound of multiple model M keyboards being utilized simultaneously. Music to this geeks ears..

  • @chrisbragdon5901
    @chrisbragdon5901 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stone-Aged Not Works! Egad!

  • @jaworskij
    @jaworskij 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    George has big bags under his eyes. Not enough sleep, Georgy?

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was chronically ill with Aplastic Anemia!

  • @KarlHamilton
    @KarlHamilton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Token Ring. Urgh.

  • @orange_light_pictures
    @orange_light_pictures 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha ha 26 min in very very early google maps

  • @brianr987
    @brianr987 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, a TSR is a real-time OS. What a crock of shit. Never worked.

  • @BimBims
    @BimBims 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1987 : people dream sharing document and files
    Now : "you don't have a permission, contact administrator for open this file"
    wtf

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My 11 year old knows how to go to the other PC and share it with the rest of the network... Pretty simple stuff.

    • @BlownMacTruck
      @BlownMacTruck 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What? Don't you think when sharing a file that inherently means there are permissions involved? Your comment makes no sense.

  • @harshbarj
    @harshbarj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    87? i/o bus? fast? Perhaps by standards of the day. Nearly everything at that time still used either the 8 or 16-bit ISA bus. EISA, PCI, and VLB were still in the future.

    • @umageddon
      @umageddon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      harshbarj wikipedia is a marvel aint it?

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course "by the standards of the day"; that's what they had.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Mac II had a full 32-bit NuBus.

  • @daniel-ino
    @daniel-ino ปีที่แล้ว

    the eye bags and no humor ..

  • @Maskddingo
    @Maskddingo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "em-eye-pee-es" instead of just saying 'MIPS'... lol. Bet she has no clue what that means.

  • @lucius1976
    @lucius1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh 1987 - Computer only got better and faster. Trump went the opposite direction.

  • @kevinhoward9593
    @kevinhoward9593 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm sorry but I don't consider intel i386 20mhz processor "Fast" my computer is 2000 times faster. CAI is a nobody now in the computer field.

    • @apemoon1731
      @apemoon1731 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In 1987, it was fast.
      A racing car in the 1960''s had less power and handling capability than a family saloon in 2018, but it kicked arse in the 1960's.

    • @blackneos940
      @blackneos940 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kevin Howard you need to abandon that bias towarda the past. I used to have it, but then I realized that you need to appreciate what each piece of Tech did for it's time. Without such things, we'd be way behind in Tech.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2000 times faster? My i7-3770 from 2012 (7 year old by now) can do 106,000 MIPS, while the 386-20 did about 3 mips. That's 35,000 times faster in integer math. Floating point math would be about 10x faster than that. And the vector units in the i7 (decoding tasks) would run millions of times faster!

    • @peplegal8253
      @peplegal8253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@oldtwinsna8347 : Still...the usability and overall response remains almost the same. Windows load so many bloatwares, that makes those 35,000 times seem like 2 or 3 times faster, at most.