I'm 85'-95' kid and let me tell you this: it was a privilage time to live as a kid! Golden age of old school consoles and pc's and full outdoor life. i miss those days so much... 😢
Well I don't have my beloved 90's consoles anymore but the raspberry pi connected to a crt tv with the complete rom collection of every nes, snes and megadrive game surely does the job for me
nope I was a kid in the early 2000s and that was the BEST time to be a kid (this is a fact) because World of Warcraft had just released and I would play that game all through up to the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, it was the GREATEST MMO in HISTORY with millions of players, it was amazing!! ALSO Counter Strike Source was massive too at this time with Zombie Escape and so on!!!
I watched this in the 80's every sat afternoon and it was the only reference we had for computer related anything really,, I was more excited every weekend for this than I was for the animated Dungeons and Dragons series...
@LKaheeros [Bruno Utech] - Read books - Clean your place - Sort out/organize your files, books, stuff - Fix what can be fix with help from youtube. - In door exercise - Learn to cook - Gardening.
This is a great peek into the era of computing before it was considered cool and mainstream. It's hard to explain this to people born after the internet where tech is just an ordinary part of their lives, but just look at all the extremely uncool middle aged people for a taste of what it was like to be interested in computers before it was cool to do so. I remember feeling how our Apple ][ was a secret magic box of surprises that I loved sharing with anyone who cared to look at it. I also remember my sister who hated computers and had no interest in them until email changed her mind about them in the late 90s. Now she's an Apple fanatic, won't be seen without her iPhone. She has few if any memories of that Apple ][ we had all those years ago, but I remember it with great affection and nostalgia.
Even in the early 2000s it was still uncool. I think maybe Myspace was the first time using the internet to "just hang out" went mainstream. Had a lot of girlfriends in my late teens and early 20s who I had to rehearse cover stories with to avoid telling our irl friends and family that we met on a message board. When the internet started becoming popular I spent a couple of years being extremely popular and cool for knowing where all the good stuff was, as that was back when there was still more than 6 sites.
Females became interested in computers only once communication and socialization were offered in computer systems. Hardly did I witness any females playing video games all alone.
@@nihilisticpancake308ummm I guess you forgot or weren't alive during the sega Vs Nintendo brand rivalry, "genesis does what nintendont". The idea they weren't fiercely competitive is just silly.
Love how they said 'this is an arcade, typical of ones around the country', and I'm like, 'no it's not, this is an arcade in Mountain View California, which I guarantee had the latest cabinets as well as was a testing location for new games to come to the US. This series would have been awesome to have as a kid, but was locked to the coasts, which explains the huge delay back then between a kid on the coast, and a Midwesterner like myself.
The way they talk about the Magnavox Pong game as being “14 years old” as if that’s a long time ago is some crazy perspective. Crysis is now older than that.
+Justin Hall Yeah, lol, the NES, gameboy and VHS will never become obsolete. But seriously, I think this guy was referring to the fact that you have so many choices of games once you buy the core system. It works much like a VCR in that you only buy the VCR once then there is an unlimited number of movies you can get for it. While the two systems technically _could_ go on forever, they didn't because other systems replaced them and made them obsolete such as DVDs and the SNES (as well as every console after it up until the PS4 and XB1). That obsolescence led to game developers choosing not to make new games for NES anymore and movie studios not releasing movies on VHS anymore. Yes, millions of people probably still own one or both of those systems but the library of games and movies for them are pretty much complete unless you count homebrew and home movies which are still being produced in very small quantities somewhere by someone - most likely people who like retro 80's tech.
01:30 Welcome 03:14 Report from Nintendo World Championship 1990 05:24 Sim Earth w/ Fred Haslam [Maxis] 08:49 Defender of the Crown CD-ROM w/ David Riordan [Cinemaware] 11:30 Why are kids fascinated by games? [Aladdin's Castle] 13:30 New consoles from SEGA and NEC 14:29 Moonwalker w/ Al Nilsen [SEGA] 16:05 Mickey Mouse in Castle of Illusions 17:26 NEC w/ Bob Faber 18:27 Ys I: Ancient Ys Vanished 19:32 Bonk's Adventure 20:45 Kids & Games w/ Rusel DeMaria 23:30 News w/ Kate Megargee 25:36 Software Review "Banner Mania" w/ Paul Schindler 26:37 PC configuration handbook 28:01 Credits
Would be nice to have it return, but we now have shows like this on YT. Channels like Gamers Nexus. Not going to recommend Linus Tech Tips after the things they have done.
Hi everyone, I was born in 2002, so I was never able to see this show or the time periods it represented. But I think it's fascinating to see what the perspective of people of the time was.
It was exciting. But you can be lucky, you experienced at least Crysis as new game as child. Which basically set point after all "old" in gaming history. After Crysis , everything was "new".
@@warrax111 why pinpoint Crysis? you could make the same argument about Doom or the 7th Guest or Half-Life or Diablo or GTA San Andreas or World of Warcraft or numerous other titles
17:08 haha it's so funny that they obsess over the sprite animation but almost ignore the parallax scrolling effect. The layered backgrounds was the biggest difference with previous consoles.
OhFishyFish naawwwww well not really. They used some trick to achieve that effect with certain restrictions. But it did not have totally free hardware parallax
Because the improved animations were the most obvious difference from previous consoles, the thing that most people look at first is the character you are playing as. The average person who may not be a hardcore gamer might not even notice the backgrounds.
The host actually pointed "relative depth of background". I respect that guy, because I've noticed he had many accurate comments. Almost like he had foreseeing the future...
ShadowAngel maybe you should take the effort to ask some question to validate that you understood what a commenter meant with their comment I am not saying that you are wrong. It’s just that I can’t agree what hardware and software is the same. Yes I agree with you that if the end result is the same then yes it do not matter if it’s done in hardware or software. Still the thing is that the software base parallax on 8 bit systems like NES has a lot more restrictions and less possibilities than the hardware based like the one on SNES. Also it’s a lot easier to use. That is for me a BIG difference you can’t neglect and what my comment was about. The end visuals with the software based parallax on NES is not the same as what visuals are possible with hardware parallax. I agree though that the “naaaaaw” was a bit silly to use. I should just have written “no” Still it do not validate your usage of “clueless” or “retarded 5 old” if my naaaw was silly (it was and I apologize for it) please stand beyond using similar level. I hope you now better understand the point my message was about regarding parallax?
No one, absolutely no one saw the incredible potential of two plumbers jumping down pipes in the 90's. Smooth Criminal sounds awesome as a 8 bit sound file
1990's? Mario and Luigi's pipe antics go back further than that. No, Super Mario Brothers started in 1985/1986 on the Famicom and Nes. I know because I got my Nes on Christmas of 1986 and I loved me some Mario. Technically the third Mario title didn't see release until 1990 here in the US. It was one of the very last Nes games I ever bought when it was current. I moved onto the Sega Genesis in 1989 and walked away from the 3rd generation (8-bit).
@@Sinn0100 I don't know why You answer, but okay, why not. Good ol' Leo over there must be 10 or something, because he feels Mario didn't manage to break into the mainstream during the 90s, and the Sega Genesis is 8 bit because apparently if you can see the individual pixels and the music isn't hidef dolby atmos it must be 8 bit.
@@Gary_Hun Okay .I don't think either of our responses deserved the post you dropped. However, you did bring something interesting into the conversation you may not have realized. While the Sega Genesis is definitely a 16-bit/technically 32-bit console with its Motorola 68K it can also be an 8-bit machine. You see, if you attach a Powerbase Converter to the cart slot of a Model 1 you can play all (but 2) Sega Master System games. This is because the Genesis actually houses a Sega Master System in its internals. After the Master System II launched with a slew of new 8-bit games it failed to gain any traction. Sega completely (and wisely) dropped it like a bad habit. Thankfully, the Master System components inside the Genesis were built to be used in conjunction with its 16-bit parts. Because of that little Zilog Z-80 8-bit co-processor Sega/3rd parties were able to do some incredibly wild things with the machine. Like for example give the Genesis 10 audio channels to work with instead of 6. It also afforded it the extra headroom to create every effect the Snes could do through software. The Sega Genesis was an amazing machine that had the ability to wear many hats. The entire setup is just like the arcade hardware of the time...just look at the Neo Geo AES/MVS. It too has one Motorola 68K processors and one Zilog Z-80 8-bit co-processor just like the Genesis.
This show really takes me back, I remember getting my first video game system when I was 7 years old for Christmas, which was an NES, that was the best Christmas ever and I've been a gamer ever since.
All I could think about when I saw that Nintendo World Championship sign was "Save those NWC cartridges kids! You could put a down-payment on a house with what those things are worth today!"
I think the Sega guy had an issue with the NEC guy claiming the TurboGrafx-16 was a 16bit system when it wasn't - which was pretty obvious from games shown. I had a Genesis and a TurboGrafx back then (well I still have them actually) and the Genesis was easily the better system. But NEC did have one thing I always wanted, and that was the portable TurboGrafx, that system was really impressive, probably the most impressive handheld until the Sega Nomad.
1990: parents feared their children would become videogame addicts. 2019: parents fear their children will become opioid addicts. Priorities are important. It’s also great to see Russel Demara (sp?) appear. He was a writer for Videogames and Computer Entertainment Magazine.
Everytime the intro starts part of me hopes it's the older theme with the melody of music styles throughout the ages. It makes me day better and my cereal taste better.
Yeah me to, I love how many different melodies they packed in to that early opening sequence. I never saw the show in its first runs, but it definitely makes me feel nostalgic for that era of computing.
I remember being dropped off at the videogame arcade with my friends for Saturday. A lot of fun was had with a $20 bill. Games, drinks (clear Pepsi), popcorn and a hotdog or two. When it was time to go, well there was the payphone from AT&T. But if you were all out of money, the staff would not stop you from using the desk phone. Rules were not the same then. And we listened to the adults and watched our language. I miss it.
I finally got a TurboExpress last year after wanting one for 20+ years. It was worth the wait! It's amazing to think how advanced it was for it's time.
It really wasn't. The Game Gear came out several months earlier and was way more impressive hardware wise. They Lynx being the first colour screen handheld even already was on the market in 1989.
Lol, how was it ahead? The Atari Lynx as the first color handheld and came out in 1989. The Game Gear came out in October 1990 and was backwards compatible to the Master System. The TurboExpress only came out in December 1990, offering nothing that hasn't been done before.
The funny thing about the Turbo GFX 16 is that it really wasn't a 16-bit system. It was controlled by two 8-bit CPUs. Not really making it a 16-bit system but kind of like a duel-core 8-bit CPU (as a loose description). My favorite game for the TG-16 was Dungeon Explorer, but I opted for a Sega Genesis because the games were better in my opinion (Revenge of Shinobi, Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Super Hang-on, Strider, Phantasy Star 2, etc...). Sonic was ok but I ended up selling my Genesis in 1993 to get a PC that can play DOOM. lol..
The sole reason it was marketed as 16 Bit was that the 16-Bit GPU Same reason why the SNES was marketed as 16-Bit when it's 8-Bit CPU not only had the same clock speed as the NES but was virtually the same and actually even crappier than the CPU of the Game Boy (hence why they needed to put the entire hardware of the Game Boy into the Super Game Boy and why it doesn't feature 2 player support)
Thank God for videogames in 2020 while we're all locked in our homes. I dare say they have been immeasurably beneficial to mental health during this time when so many people just want to escape from the troubles of the world and indeed, for the time being, have nothing else to do.
I knew about the show because we did not have cable at the time but I was able to see PBS. Even when I was looking at the show, my family could not afford most of the computer systems nor the software. Not only that, but at the time computers were not seen as a common house whole tool like it is today. The system that I had was a Texas Instruments 99A. But it was not as costly as a standard computer at the base level. I also had a Texas Instruments 68 that came out in 1989. I miss those days but we didn't have TH-cam till around 2005.
I mean you should still limit your kid's video game habits. If your kid is playing from the time they get home to the time they sleep you've got a problem. :P
iMonikah Well, that goes with anything..video games, sports, etc..any hobby thats hindering their progress in life is considered bad..But I think people back then were over reactionary when it came to video games..like they were going to turn kids bad or lazy or unproductive.
@@iMonikah As opposed as to kids in previous generations spending most of their time in front of the idiot box or reading books alone in their rooms as it was common before 1950, right?
@@fordxbgtfalcon Yes, 2009. Notch first showcased Minecraft on May 13 2009 when it was actually called "Cave Game". The first public version of Minecraft was released on May 17, 2009, followed by the release of the Survival update a couple months later. That was on the TIGSource Forums back then.
The sega guy wanted to call bullshit on the NECs guy saying it "plays straight from the disk". The irony is that one of the drawbacks of cd based media even to this day is unloading the data to ram. Thats one of the reasons the n64 was applauded, was because cartridges can load so much faster as they don't need to unload nearly the same amount of data. Obviously cds won out, and for good reason, cost and the amount of storage is superior. But def not speed
And yet, there a numerous N64 games with loading times, like The World is Not Enough, Perfect Dark, Quake 2, Wipeout and others. Also some games on the N64 actually had updates that would shorten the load times, one famous example is Wave Race. Version 1.0 has noticable, long loading times. Version 1.1 shorted them considerable.
13:13, that kid really pissed me off. "I'm kind of bored with my Nintendo". 1990 saw the release I'd SMB3, Adventures of Lolo and Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers. Some of the best games on the NES.
Defender of the Crown was a game changer, a killer app that was selling Amigas like hot cakes! Compare 8-bit games with this.... it was photorealistic for its time.
That was a good game indeed , the jousting part was my favorite.. I had both an 1040STe and a amiga 500 and I loved them both to bits.. While the Atari was my very first computer experience , the amiga had the best titles overall.
Well it was a 16 bit game. Better would be to compare 16 bit arcade games with that. And they was sometimes even prettier. Then defender of the crown was already pretty old when this Clíp was recorded. Defender of the crowns was no game changer. But at its release in 86 it was graphically something unique.
I'm struck by how much a slide show Sim Earth was! You could tell it was pushing that computer to its limits -- mostly due to how many variables the game processed in the background, not so much because of the graphical complexity
22:55 "I never had to [limit game time]. They play outside all the time". Yep. I've never had a gaming system of my own when I grew up (probably the reason why I need to overcompensate today, lol), but many of my friends had. And yes, we did spend a lot of time playing video games, but we also did spend a lot of time playing outside.
I remember visiting Riordan's pub in It came from the Desert from Cinemaware. Now I know where that name came from :) Those guys could program good games.
What strikes me as funny is the constant emphasis and references to kids playing video games. I think a lot of people and companies just didn't realize how big the market is for mature gamers as well.
I have my own home video game consoles (e.g. Atari VCS/2600, Atari 5200 Super System, Atari 7800 Pro System, Nintendo NES and Super Nintendo SNES) that I have enjoyed playing since I first got them in the 1980s. I got a Pentium processor Windows PC in the 1990s that had a number of games available to it that I also enjoyed playing as well. As Nolan Bushnell co-founder of Atari has said "Video Games should have both fun and challenge to them, what is difficult to find is the sweet spot between fun and challenge in a video game."
Skip ahead 30 years..... You think he ever foresaw a period in time where you wouldn't get a printed game manual in the box? No more boxes. Cloud gaming. At 42 years old I'm grateful I've been able to see this evolution and be a part of it.
I remember when games were a reason to visit friends houses, or even to make friends in the first place. To go read books about the games and go to arcades and get out the house.
5:27 "...the newest game from Maxis, called Sim Earth..." The hourglasses remind us not only of the rapid flight of time, but simultaneously also of the dust into which we will once fall.
I got my first pc in 1992. Not too far off. I remember the computer retail stores it was mania. Geeks everywhere. Someone was making tons of money those days.
I'm 85'-95' kid and let me tell you this: it was a privilage time to live as a kid! Golden age of old school consoles and pc's and full outdoor life. i miss those days so much... 😢
Well I don't have my beloved 90's consoles anymore but the raspberry pi connected to a crt tv with the complete rom collection of every nes, snes and megadrive game surely does the job for me
nope I was a kid in the early 2000s and that was the BEST time to be a kid (this is a fact) because World of Warcraft had just released and I would play that game all through up to the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, it was the GREATEST MMO in HISTORY with millions of players, it was amazing!! ALSO Counter Strike Source was massive too at this time with Zombie Escape and so on!!!
Everyone thinks their childhood era was the best.
Yes but mine was the best (this is fact)@@Owen-hg3cu
Yeah. Even more so now. I hate the new humans.
That "video game expert" was surprisingly knowledgeable. His title did not disappoint
I watched this in the 80's every sat afternoon and it was the only reference we had for computer related anything really,, I was more excited every weekend for this than I was for the animated Dungeons and Dragons series...
Was this broadcasted throughout the US?
@@RudolfSchmidt yes on PBS
I was lucky enough to grow up with TechTV
I'm a 45 year old MD who has played video games since the early 80s. As long as it's not the ONLY thing you do in life, it's all good!
No shit. Nowadays most MDs play video game when they're young.
@LKaheeros [Bruno Utech]
- Read books
- Clean your place
- Sort out/organize your files, books, stuff
- Fix what can be fix with help from youtube.
- In door exercise
- Learn to cook
- Gardening.
@@namapalsu2364 Or you can literally find videogames to simulate all the things in your list.
I too am a Manly Dude....But i'm not 45 yet!
What if you're a professional gamer? Then it kinda has to be the only thing you do.
This is a great peek into the era of computing before it was considered cool and mainstream.
It's hard to explain this to people born after the internet where tech is just an ordinary part of their lives, but just look at all the extremely uncool middle aged people for a taste of what it was like to be interested in computers before it was cool to do so. I remember feeling how our Apple ][ was a secret magic box of surprises that I loved sharing with anyone who cared to look at it.
I also remember my sister who hated computers and had no interest in them until email changed her mind about them in the late 90s. Now she's an Apple fanatic, won't be seen without her iPhone. She has few if any memories of that Apple ][ we had all those years ago, but I remember it with great affection and nostalgia.
Even in the early 2000s it was still uncool. I think maybe Myspace was the first time using the internet to "just hang out" went mainstream. Had a lot of girlfriends in my late teens and early 20s who I had to rehearse cover stories with to avoid telling our irl friends and family that we met on a message board.
When the internet started becoming popular I spent a couple of years being extremely popular and cool for knowing where all the good stuff was, as that was back when there was still more than 6 sites.
Females became interested in computers only once communication and socialization were offered in computer systems. Hardly did I witness any females playing video games all alone.
Never in a million years would you see two competing companies agree to guest on the same show at the same time ever again.
Maybe because games were more of a product then.
Now they are like a brand, identity, movement sort of thing.
Yeah just toys. Nothing more. I feel replacing shame if i see my 37+ generation still talk about their child toys xD.
@@nihilisticpancake308ummm I guess you forgot or weren't alive during the sega Vs Nintendo brand rivalry, "genesis does what nintendont". The idea they weren't fiercely competitive is just silly.
Lol yup it truly was a different era of gaming market back then.
Love how they said 'this is an arcade, typical of ones around the country', and I'm like, 'no it's not, this is an arcade in Mountain View California, which I guarantee had the latest cabinets as well as was a testing location for new games to come to the US.
This series would have been awesome to have as a kid, but was locked to the coasts, which explains the huge delay back then between a kid on the coast, and a Midwesterner like myself.
My favorite part was the Sim Earth demonstration. That poor Mac was struggling *hard* to run the game!
There was an arcade in Chicago that often had Midway and Bally prototype stuff as they tested it out!
The way they talk about the Magnavox Pong game as being “14 years old” as if that’s a long time ago is some crazy perspective. Crysis is now older than that.
Mostly because they got the date wrong. It was already 18 years old. The Odyssey was released in September 1972
2025 Crysis will be 18 years old as well @@ShadowAngel-lt8nw
@@ShadowAngel-lt8nw even still. It's crazy to think that Half-Life 2 is now 20 years old
"Nintendo will go on forever, just like VCR's." - a 90's perspective
Foxy the Pirate Oh yeah, people line up in droves to buy VCRs.
Yeah, I think you missed my point entirely.
Justin Hall "Nintendo will go on forever, just like iphones" - a 10's perspective :D
+Justin Hall Yeah, lol, the NES, gameboy and VHS will never become obsolete. But seriously, I think this guy was referring to the fact that you have so many choices of games once you buy the core system. It works much like a VCR in that you only buy the VCR once then there is an unlimited number of movies you can get for it. While the two systems technically _could_ go on forever, they didn't because other systems replaced them and made them obsolete such as DVDs and the SNES (as well as every console after it up until the PS4 and XB1). That obsolescence led to game developers choosing not to make new games for NES anymore and movie studios not releasing movies on VHS anymore. Yes, millions of people probably still own one or both of those systems but the library of games and movies for them are pretty much complete unless you count homebrew and home movies which are still being produced in very small quantities somewhere by someone - most likely people who like retro 80's tech.
vcrs ARE still around . dvd and blu ray players are the new vcrs .
01:30 Welcome
03:14 Report from Nintendo World Championship 1990
05:24 Sim Earth w/ Fred Haslam [Maxis]
08:49 Defender of the Crown CD-ROM w/ David Riordan [Cinemaware]
11:30 Why are kids fascinated by games? [Aladdin's Castle]
13:30 New consoles from SEGA and NEC
14:29 Moonwalker w/ Al Nilsen [SEGA]
16:05 Mickey Mouse in Castle of Illusions
17:26 NEC w/ Bob Faber
18:27 Ys I: Ancient Ys Vanished
19:32 Bonk's Adventure
20:45 Kids & Games w/ Rusel DeMaria
23:30 News w/ Kate Megargee
25:36 Software Review "Banner Mania" w/ Paul Schindler
26:37 PC configuration handbook
28:01 Credits
I love this show. It's kind of depressing it's been gone for so long.
no room for TV Shows on video games…
Would be nice to have it return, but we now have shows like this on YT. Channels like Gamers Nexus. Not going to recommend Linus Tech Tips after the things they have done.
In the UK we didn't have this show, so I'm enjoying watching all thr episodes now
I agree.
@@mayorhaggar1275 Your username is excellent.
The Computer Chronicles was a big piece of the US computer revolution. We ate this information up. Millions were inspired by this program.
I missed out on this but at least had TechTV
I watched this episode with extraordinary enthusiasm when it was new. xD
Hi everyone, I was born in 2002, so I was never able to see this show or the time periods it represented. But I think it's fascinating to see what the perspective of people of the time was.
It was exciting. But you can be lucky, you experienced at least Crysis as new game as child. Which basically set point after all "old" in gaming history. After Crysis , everything was "new".
@@warrax111 why pinpoint Crysis? you could make the same argument about Doom or the 7th Guest or Half-Life or Diablo or GTA San Andreas or World of Warcraft or numerous other titles
History is fascinating. Glad i lived through the history of gaming
17:08 haha it's so funny that they obsess over the sprite animation but almost ignore the parallax scrolling effect. The layered backgrounds was the biggest difference with previous consoles.
8-bit NES had paralax scrolling in many games.
OhFishyFish naawwwww well not really. They used some trick to achieve that effect with certain restrictions. But it did not have totally free hardware parallax
Because the improved animations were the most obvious difference from previous consoles, the thing that most people look at first is the character you are playing as. The average person who may not be a hardcore gamer might not even notice the backgrounds.
The host actually pointed "relative depth of background". I respect that guy, because I've noticed he had many accurate comments. Almost like he had foreseeing the future...
ShadowAngel maybe you should take the effort to ask some question to validate that you understood what a commenter meant with their comment
I am not saying that you are wrong. It’s just that I can’t agree what hardware and software is the same. Yes I agree with you that if the end result is the same then yes it do not matter if it’s done in hardware or software.
Still the thing is that the software base parallax on 8 bit systems like NES has a lot more restrictions and less possibilities than the hardware based like the one on SNES. Also it’s a lot easier to use. That is for me a BIG difference you can’t neglect and what my comment was about. The end visuals with the software based parallax on NES is not the same as what visuals are possible with hardware parallax.
I agree though that the “naaaaaw” was a bit silly to use. I should just have written “no”
Still it do not validate your usage of “clueless” or “retarded 5 old” if my naaaw was silly (it was and I apologize for it) please stand beyond using similar level.
I hope you now better understand the point my message was about regarding parallax?
No one, absolutely no one saw the incredible potential of two plumbers jumping down pipes in the 90's. Smooth Criminal sounds awesome as a 8 bit sound file
1990's? Mario and Luigi's pipe antics go back further than that. No, Super Mario Brothers started in 1985/1986 on the Famicom and Nes. I know because I got my Nes on Christmas of 1986 and I loved me some Mario. Technically the third Mario title didn't see release until 1990 here in the US. It was one of the very last Nes games I ever bought when it was current. I moved onto the Sega Genesis in 1989 and walked away from the 3rd generation (8-bit).
Were you deliberately trying to offend everyone?..
@@Gary_Hun
I don't understand your issue? Neither of us said anything to warrant your response.
@@Sinn0100 I don't know why You answer, but okay, why not. Good ol' Leo over there must be 10 or something, because he feels Mario didn't manage to break into the mainstream during the 90s, and the Sega Genesis is 8 bit because apparently if you can see the individual pixels and the music isn't hidef dolby atmos it must be 8 bit.
@@Gary_Hun
Okay .I don't think either of our responses deserved the post you dropped. However, you did bring something interesting into the conversation you may not have realized. While the Sega Genesis is definitely a 16-bit/technically 32-bit console with its Motorola 68K it can also be an 8-bit machine.
You see, if you attach a Powerbase Converter to the cart slot of a Model 1 you can play all (but 2) Sega Master System games. This is because the Genesis actually houses a Sega Master System in its internals. After the Master System II launched with a slew of new 8-bit games it failed to gain any traction. Sega completely (and wisely) dropped it like a bad habit. Thankfully, the Master System components inside the Genesis were built to be used in conjunction with its 16-bit parts. Because of that little Zilog Z-80 8-bit co-processor Sega/3rd parties were able to do some incredibly wild things with the machine. Like for example give the Genesis 10 audio channels to work with instead of 6. It also afforded it the extra headroom to create every effect the Snes could do through software.
The Sega Genesis was an amazing machine that had the ability to wear many hats. The entire setup is just like the arcade hardware of the time...just look at the Neo Geo AES/MVS. It too has one Motorola 68K processors and one Zilog Z-80 8-bit co-processor just like the Genesis.
SEGA Genesis, my console as a kid! ❤️
Love this vintage footage, thank you! NES and Genesis for life!!
Up until N64 (Nintendo) and PlayStation (SCEA) came along and made video games easier
@@CartoonPhreak 👍🤘
@@YoursInYeshua
You’re welcome
I own a PS4
I bring it along on camping trips where there is Wi-Fi
@@CartoonPhreak Awesome!! The perfect getaway!
@@CartoonPhreak more mainstream and certainly dumber
This show really takes me back, I remember getting my first video game system when I was 7 years old for Christmas, which was an NES, that was the best Christmas ever and I've been a gamer ever since.
I went crazy for Sim Earth (5:26) back in the day. I'm now a Geologist rather than a climate scientist but it wasn't too far off!
That's awesome!😊
I don´t remember lagging so much, I played on a 68k mac 1994.
I tried playing it on the SNES back in 1991 I want to say, but my stupid 11-year-old brain couldn't figure out what to do.
6:15 That crappy Macintosh LC was struggling with Sim Earth.
It's painful to watch
yup its all laggy and shit😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, a shame, because such awesomely sophisticated graphics!
Im lucky to be the 80-90s kids. Play with friends outside and then play consoles at night inside the home.
The 90s Chronicles were quite charming. Love the geek era that time.
Oh my god.. imagine kind of work went into this at that time... Great man..!!
@13:43 Ah, Peter Griffin and Clark Kent there in the studio
All I could think about when I saw that Nintendo World Championship sign was "Save those NWC cartridges kids! You could put a down-payment on a house with what those things are worth today!"
Can't believe this was 25 years ago. I was 9 years old.
ArcadeGames Yeah time flies I feel old lol. I was the 8 then.
+ArcadeGames Yea imagine running a game off of cdrom being considered a fast way to run it lol. I was 25.
i was 4, today i'm 30. OMG
Yeah Antonio, we would of been one of those kids in this episode, now we are in our 30s ): I was six years old in 1990.
ArcadeGames I can’t believe this was 2 years ago. I was 6 years old.
HAHA the sega guy was hating on the NEC guy because of the CD Rom. It was kind of awkward to have two competitors sitting right next to each other.
And yet Sega won. :-)
I wish they didn't. NEC deserved to win.
They won, but eventually lost.
Sega dude was probably eager to tell them about the Sega CD which was in development, but had to hold back his tongue.
I think the Sega guy had an issue with the NEC guy claiming the TurboGrafx-16 was a 16bit system when it wasn't - which was pretty obvious from games shown. I had a Genesis and a TurboGrafx back then (well I still have them actually) and the Genesis was easily the better system. But NEC did have one thing I always wanted, and that was the portable TurboGrafx, that system was really impressive, probably the most impressive handheld until the Sega Nomad.
That guy at 3:41 looks like Chris Pratt but with 80s hair lol
I was a 10 year old boy when he filmed that intro! I feel seen, affirmed, validated, etc.
1990: parents feared their children would become videogame addicts.
2019: parents fear their children will become opioid addicts.
Priorities are important.
It’s also great to see Russel Demara (sp?) appear. He was a writer for Videogames and Computer Entertainment Magazine.
well, heroine was more popular in the 90s than ever
Everytime the intro starts part of me hopes it's the older theme with the melody of music styles throughout the ages. It makes me day better and my cereal taste better.
Yeah me to, I love how many different melodies they packed in to that early opening sequence. I never saw the show in its first runs, but it definitely makes me feel nostalgic for that era of computing.
25:37 - Yeah, I'm going to need a source on that assertion Paul, lol.
I used to see those cheesy, computer-generated banners all the time.
I remember being dropped off at the videogame arcade with my friends for Saturday. A lot of fun was had with a $20 bill. Games, drinks (clear Pepsi), popcorn and a hotdog or two. When it was time to go, well there was the payphone from AT&T. But if you were all out of money, the staff would not stop you from using the desk phone. Rules were not the same then. And we listened to the adults and watched our language. I miss it.
20$ in 1990 would be almost 60$ today.
A 2 L pepsi or coca-cola, I think were 65 cents while today, it is almost 2$ canadian.
True, and a quarter in 1972 was worth almost $1.50 today. Imagine paying $1.50 to play a game of Pong!
20 bucks just to hang out in an arcade? gee i wonder why you were such perfect little angels
In the late 90's when I was 8-10 we did that same thing, but at the Charleston Skating Rink. Back then MK3 was a popular game.
Crystal Pepsi!
This show is an absolutely superb Historical reference.
6:12 - the Maxis guy got nice and stoned before his appearance on TCC.
I finally got a TurboExpress last year after wanting one for 20+ years. It was worth the wait! It's amazing to think how advanced it was for it's time.
It really wasn't. The Game Gear came out several months earlier and was way more impressive hardware wise. They Lynx being the first colour screen handheld even already was on the market in 1989.
The NEC TurboExpress was so far ahead of the other handhelds at the time.
Lol, how was it ahead? The Atari Lynx as the first color handheld and came out in 1989. The Game Gear came out in October 1990 and was backwards compatible to the Master System. The TurboExpress only came out in December 1990, offering nothing that hasn't been done before.
Lol I forgot about the "builds reflexes" argument. That usually won our parents over :)
The funny thing about the Turbo GFX 16 is that it really wasn't a 16-bit system. It was controlled by two 8-bit CPUs. Not really making it a 16-bit system but kind of like a duel-core 8-bit CPU (as a loose description). My favorite game for the TG-16 was Dungeon Explorer, but I opted for a Sega Genesis because the games were better in my opinion (Revenge of Shinobi, Golden Axe, Altered Beast, Super Hang-on, Strider, Phantasy Star 2, etc...). Sonic was ok but I ended up selling my Genesis in 1993 to get a PC that can play DOOM. lol..
The sole reason it was marketed as 16 Bit was that the 16-Bit GPU
Same reason why the SNES was marketed as 16-Bit when it's 8-Bit CPU not only had the same clock speed as the NES but was virtually the same and actually even crappier than the CPU of the Game Boy (hence why they needed to put the entire hardware of the Game Boy into the Super Game Boy and why it doesn't feature 2 player support)
@@ShadowAngel-lt8nw SNES was a big jump from SNES no matter how they did it, I know SNES had its own sound / music processor as well.
I loved Raiden. Always been a shmups guy. And while it wasn’t 16 but, they did look better than the NES.
these are amazing thanks for posting these
"So is it educational?"
later: "But what about the action parts?"
5:58 fuck sim earth , i want to play sim mullet
Look how far we've come. (Watching for you, Andy 🙏🏻❤️)
Did we really? In terms of gaming, i doubt that.
Thank you for uploading these
I saw a kid vent his frustration on the screen of a Street Fighter 2 machine. It was a glass sheet in front of the monitor and it shattered.
Thank God for videogames in 2020 while we're all locked in our homes. I dare say they have been immeasurably beneficial to mental health during this time when so many people just want to escape from the troubles of the world and indeed, for the time being, have nothing else to do.
I completly agree. It helped me a lot. Also computer magazines, gaming magazines. Of course, old ones, from 90's , 2000's
I knew about the show because we did not have cable at the time but I was able to see PBS. Even when I was looking at the show, my family could not afford most of the computer systems nor the software. Not only that, but at the time computers were not seen as a common house whole tool like it is today. The system that I had was a Texas Instruments 99A. But it was not as costly as a standard computer at the base level. I also had a Texas Instruments 68 that came out in 1989. I miss those days but we didn't have TH-cam till around 2005.
I like how video games were still considered a "bad habit" back then, you can tell with the "limits" being put on kids playing times.
Well I mean...
I'm gonna die early because of how much I play games, but it's my choice and I've accepted the likely consequences.
I mean you should still limit your kid's video game habits. If your kid is playing from the time they get home to the time they sleep you've got a problem. :P
iMonikah
Well, that goes with anything..video games, sports, etc..any hobby thats hindering their progress in life is considered bad..But I think people back then were over reactionary when it came to video games..like they were going to turn kids bad or lazy or unproductive.
@@neoasura they definitely help
@@iMonikah As opposed as to kids in previous generations spending most of their time in front of the idiot box or reading books alone in their rooms as it was common before 1950, right?
15:00 Criminal! He didn't have Michael do one of the dance routines. That really showed things off.
At least they didn't show of his child abusing routines, lol
12:21 joe pesci is running an arcade
fast forward to 2009 - where computing power has increased 10,000x and the game of the year is of course Minecraft.
Minecraft in 2009?
Things got REALLY strange when it became possible to build a smartphone within "Minecraft" that could communicate with real-world phones.
@@fordxbgtfalcon Yes, 2009. Notch first showcased Minecraft on May 13 2009 when it was actually called "Cave Game". The first public version of Minecraft was released on May 17, 2009, followed by the release of the Survival update a couple months later. That was on the TIGSource Forums back then.
16:48 beautiful brilliantly colorful background...
30yrs ago...
i ordered my nintendo 33 years ago and it just arrived. it feels so real!!!!
I'm happy to have found this!
The Xbox 360 is older today than the Magnavox Odyssey was when this was filmed
Exponential growth is to be expected in a genre comparing its origins to a peak period.
The sega guy wanted to call bullshit on the NECs guy saying it "plays straight from the disk". The irony is that one of the drawbacks of cd based media even to this day is unloading the data to ram. Thats one of the reasons the n64 was applauded, was because cartridges can load so much faster as they don't need to unload nearly the same amount of data. Obviously cds won out, and for good reason, cost and the amount of storage is superior. But def not speed
Yeah it was funny the way the sega guy turned and looked at him when he said that
And yet, there a numerous N64 games with loading times, like The World is Not Enough, Perfect Dark, Quake 2, Wipeout and others. Also some games on the N64 actually had updates that would shorten the load times, one famous example is Wave Race. Version 1.0 has noticable, long loading times. Version 1.1 shorted them considerable.
13:13, that kid really pissed me off. "I'm kind of bored with my Nintendo". 1990 saw the release I'd SMB3, Adventures of Lolo and Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers. Some of the best games on the NES.
Defender of the Crown was a game changer, a killer app that was selling Amigas like hot cakes!
Compare 8-bit games with this.... it was photorealistic for its time.
That was a good game indeed , the jousting part was my favorite..
I had both an 1040STe and a amiga 500 and I loved them both to bits..
While the Atari was my very first computer experience , the amiga had the best titles overall.
Well it was a 16 bit game. Better would be to compare 16 bit arcade games with that. And they was sometimes even prettier. Then defender of the crown was already pretty old when this Clíp was recorded.
Defender of the crowns was no game changer. But at its release in 86 it was graphically something unique.
Fred got the hair on lock 🤩👌🏻
Can't have angry people with pool cues on 8bit systems!
MisterK812
Same thing I was thinking, segas employees even believed their own hype.
“You know he’s bad and he’s after him. You can’t do that on an 8-bit system!”
Showing off what was considered obsolete in even in 1990. I love those weird controllers.
wow! im going to buy a nec console right now, thats the future man, no way it can fail.
1:41 Stewart made a mistake the OG video game system was actually 18 years old in 1990. Wild stuff , way before my time :P
I'm struck by how much a slide show Sim Earth was! You could tell it was pushing that computer to its limits -- mostly due to how many variables the game processed in the background, not so much because of the graphical complexity
This was 3 weeks before I was born… I grew up in the best era hands down.
22:55 "I never had to [limit game time]. They play outside all the time".
Yep. I've never had a gaming system of my own when I grew up (probably the reason why I need to overcompensate today, lol), but many of my friends had. And yes, we did spend a lot of time playing video games, but we also did spend a lot of time playing outside.
15:35 I liked how even back then people were into realism in video games. I am a sucker for that too
I remember visiting Riordan's pub in It came from the Desert from Cinemaware. Now I know where that name came from :) Those guys could program good games.
17:11 Ah yes a completely natural reaction by the Sega rep after practicing it in his head 726 times in his head the night before.
What strikes me as funny is the constant emphasis and references to kids playing video games. I think a lot of people and companies just didn't realize how big the market is for mature gamers as well.
The days when 7lbs was considered light weight. Where has the time gone?
Wasted it playing video games xD
I have my own home video game consoles (e.g. Atari VCS/2600, Atari 5200 Super System, Atari 7800 Pro System, Nintendo NES and Super Nintendo SNES) that I have enjoyed playing since I first got them in the 1980s. I got a Pentium processor Windows PC in the 1990s that had a number of games available to it that I also enjoyed playing as well. As Nolan Bushnell co-founder of Atari has said "Video Games should have both fun and challenge to them, what is difficult to find is the sweet spot between fun and challenge in a video game."
I remember watching this very episode when it first aired. This was how many of us got to see the difference between Sega and NEC's offerings.
13:14 - Does that kid always have that disgusted smirk on, even while having fun?
27:20 Even in 1990, meetings where a nuisance. Not much has changed since then.
so great to see this today
What a fun programm to watch this is
8:26 Even more relevant today. I wonder how accurate the models played out?
I loved both sega and nintendo.
That tournament looks like fun.
I got my NES this year i was 9. The nostalgia
What is the game at 11:42?
Did that version of DOTC ever get released? I can't find anything on it.
Well apparently an EGA version with CD-Audio(but the code still on floppy) did, you can see it here.
th-cam.com/video/GJrJvhrV7Mo/w-d-xo.html
just 30 years ago everybody so much more formal
Computers were still marketed as primarily business machines then.
I cant wait for the DOS 5.0, hurry up and get here 1991!
Skip ahead 30 years.....
You think he ever foresaw a period in time where you wouldn't get a printed game manual in the box?
No more boxes. Cloud gaming. At 42 years old I'm grateful I've been able to see this evolution and be a part of it.
Amazing how the sim earth game is so relevant.
I know I already posted...do they ever examine the Neo Geo AES? If so how can I see their take on it?
That wasn’t released until 1991. I don’t recall it being discussed.
12:41 LOL this guy looks like a sleazy car salesmen
I remember when games were a reason to visit friends houses, or even to make friends in the first place. To go read books about the games and go to arcades and get out the house.
Terry Lee Torok also hosted Video Power back in the early 1990's.
5:27 "...the newest game from Maxis, called Sim Earth..."
The hourglasses remind us not only of the rapid flight of time, but simultaneously also of the dust into which we will once fall.
Terry Lee Torok. Is he a dinosaur hunter?
Omg the graphics.,
i love the future
guy representing Sega of America looks like Peter Griffin lol....
best comment
Shut up Meg!
Interesting to watch this in 2020. Now 40 years old.
I got my first pc in 1992. Not too far off. I remember the computer retail stores it was mania. Geeks everywhere. Someone was making tons of money those days.
1992 was when the PC gaming industry took off and would be the dominant platform for many years to come.
Super MARY-O!!!!
The competition had Super Mario Bros, Tetris, and RAD RACER!?! Rad Racer was one of my favorite games back then, hell yeah!! 👍
Funny how the Sega guys looks kinda worried, but you know after he see's Bonk he's like...yeah I won.