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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2023
- If you would like to get this trowel for yourself once I've worn it in (that's right, I'll do all the hard work for you) then you can get your name on the list here...
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if your not sure what this is about the please watch this quick video to see how I'm trying to help you.
• DO YOU WANT MY TROWEL
This video will show you how to use a brand new marshalltown stainless steel trowel straight out of the box - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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I love when tradesman bring their young ones to work... Teaching them a bit of life. Amazing stuff.
Perfect demonstration of a new trowel and the problems it can cause, especially pulling out the plaster
watched loads of plasterers channels yours is by far the best and most relatable,feels like im watching myself as every movement u do is so familiar from how u coat outside to skimming i do exact the same movements pressure and speed,ive always said we will never be millionares cos nobody wants to watch us work but the way u explain things that some folk think are boring i still find it intersting even though i know it all and do it every day,your enthusiasm makes me want to go to work lol
Wow, your work area is lovely and clean. Such a neat job... Lines / edges are great!
Go Masie - good energy. Great to see. Seems a great girl. Proud dad.
The problem any DIYer has is not realising that as well as a lack of skill, they can run into problems caused by the equipment, but not recognise it as such. Your videos help so much in avoiding that. It's hard enough to get the mud on the wall and develop a smoothing technique, but if you don't realise your trowel is causing you problems you'd think you just couldn't plaster
Great video, good for beginners to show that they aren’t necessarily doing it wrong it could be due just to using new tools and to persevere
Mate, I can not lie. I was hoping you would have a total nightmare lol as I know how hard it is, but you made it look too easy. This just shows how good you actually are, and your experience showed big time fantastic job
Whenever I get a new trowel I just hook that little triangle sanding piece to my oscillating multitool with some 120 grit sandpaper and sand the corners and edges and surface. In a matter of seconds the corners arent pointy and sharp, theyre more round and safe to the touch. Dont know about everybody but it works for me when I dont have time to break the trowel in.
Most of the plasterers in Ireland use them on sand and cement for a period of time before they skim with them
Same in the us
Same in England aswell. I did a lot of damp proofing over the years. So used sand and cement day in and day out. I don’t know why people don’t use sand cement. I would prefer to use that
@@jimmybaldwin737it's nice to skim onto
I was told to give your trowel to a bricklayer for a period of time before I started using it for plastering , having 3 trowels in pipeline at all times (your main trowel , your back up and then your spare)
Yr rightThe best way to brake a trowel in is on the rendering sand and cement
You make it look so easy, I've had a go when I had a plasterer at my house, I couldn't even get it off the mortar board without it being on the floor 😂 I'm sending this video to my plasterer as the clean up and no plaster in the back of the sockets really add to the finished job. Just hope I don't offend him 😂😂😂
Hi Kirk. I’m pretty new to your channel I only subscribed about 1 month ago. I can see your an old tradesman and not one of the new tradesmen just out of college. You explain things very well and I’m sure lots of people will learn very much from watching you. I am a building inspector for my local authority and I see many trades works and yours is up there with the best I see. Keep up the good work and training the newbies the proper way to do a job. 👍👍✊✊😎
It seems you have a great bond with your daughter(s) Kirk. It's nice to see a dad who actually acts like a dad. Keep it up buddy
Great job mate. Love marshalltown trowels, but also have a big soft spot for the tyzack trowels. My finishing trowel is marshalltown 👌
Nice to see you using board finish. That’s all I use. I love it
Doing a great job kirk, the videos you're putting up helping people are ace. We'll in mate.
Cheers Rich
very brave using new trowel straight out the box .Job well done thx for sharing
Lovely work. Kirk great demo.
I just thought I was a terrible plasterer now I know it was just the new trowel hehe. Great vid thanks mate.
I've been doing for 25 years. When I was taught I was given a trowel from my boss that he had used first. He told me a good plasterer has several broken in trowels. When I train someone now who works for me I have a trowel ready for him.
I was given a Marshall Town Gold from a shop that was closing down it takes some breaking in especially when I don’t plaster every day 👍thank you
Thoroughly enjoyed that! Great vid and very well explained. Thanks for posting 👍
Well done Masie, hope you got paid! I tried for years to get my son and daughters to come on board but they wouldn't entertain it! thanks for a great channel.
Looking forward to watching this you’ve made some great videos I’ve watched nearly all of them 😂 keep up the good work mate! 👍
Awesome, thank you! cheers Eddie
Another great video and professional job, thank you. Just hope I got the lucky ticket 🤞🏼
Ive been off the tools for about 3 years now, but your videos really make me miss the trowel 😂
I always used a sharpening stone on new trowels but rounded the toes off slightly and use the heel for square corners. To make live sockets safe I just covered them with small freezer bags or the like, only takes seconds to cover sockets with the bag keeps it safe and clean.
Got one myself & I love it.
Where's our Keiran at like?
Also good yer kids helping out, loving the chanel Kirk, top job 👍🏻
I'm learning and improving as I go, been using that trowel for a while now (diyer, occasional jobs like a room here or a wall there but about to do a whole house we're renovating) and have to say I'm very attached to that bit of kit for throwing on. Tempted to try a speedskim for flattening though. Just wanted to say thanks for the content, picked up a few tips from you. Helpful stuff.
I’m still new in the trade myself, and still learning, though I can plaster (the skimming side of it) from start to finish confidently, I was advised by an experienced spread to stay away form the speedskim and master the trowel first. As flattening inbetween coats with the trowel is a very important aspect of training yourself to keep the angle of the trowel consistent. If you start using the speed skim instead it will take you soo much longer to master the trowel if that makes sense. It also helps with conditioning your muscles.
I generally use it on sand and cement to wear it in.. sometimes I give it a rub of a sharpening stone to wear it in especially a stainless steel one
I have a 14" Marshalltown carbon cement trowel that I used to use as a "skimmer", as it's as straight as a die. I generally use an MT permashape now but breaking in another MT carbon finishing trowel. I always run over the edges of a new trowel with my carborundum stone. I love using my 18" MT carbon but it's always an issue for my elbow now 😢
Brilliant stuff kirk!!
Iv started using carbon as stainless is very hard and will take ages to wear in better off with a permashape gold . Carbon has bit more flex than stainless took a month my carbon to be good enough for skim but love it now . Keep up the good work
good work again KIRK !
great trowels marshalltown i allways buy the pre worn in trowels
Here's a nice little comedy moment for everyone reading the comments.
I've just watched this entire video and had the intention of putting in to try and win this trowel. The chances are slim but as good odds as anyone else right? A couple of minutes from the end he says it'll be available to bid on in March 2023 😅😅. Typical me, always late to the party 🤣🤣.
As always though Kirk, great video mate. Always informative, always patient, always you. Any apprentice lucky enough to get on with you would turn out an absolute master craftsman I'm sure.
Amazingly helpful video, much appreciated.
when i was first starting out by labouring the old boy who taught me said to buy my no1 and use it for render and screeding for as long as i can to get the edge perfect i just use different grit of wet and dry now on a sheet of ply hasn't let me down 👍🏼
Good stuff
Thanks 4 the link ....BTW yes I own a tyzak it was on offer and I don't use them much . But the other issue I get is getting things flat I get good smoothness now but fiatjess needs work lol
Wooden handles on both MT and Tyzak are my preference as well as they are slightly thicker
Yeah it's good to get the kids involved in the work I used to take my lil lad with me to show him teach him the plastering and bricklayin my daughter I used to teach her all the maths stuff cos I had originally wanted to have them set up in business when they older an that
love watching plasterers work,i would let the first coat pick up more ,your a good spread mate.
Braver man than me .I only bought a new trowel when I knew I had a few weeks of float and set or a screeding job.😂😂
I have that trowel, it has worn in lovely had it for 10 years
Two minutes into the job and the top three foot of that wall already looks pretty much good enough to sign off. I've got some practising to do! (DIY plasterer here, really only doing it because on principle I reckon I ought to at least have a go at anything legal in my home.)
I'm literally doing the exact same now moving into a new home, I've done 5 walls so far and they are OK tbf, there is some misses and I've made a mess of the outer corners but I have time to rectify that, I was struggling with the mixes going off and getting the plaster on the wall fast enough. How did you do, what did you struggle with? Hope it went as good as it could have for you, I know from personal experience how hard it is to plaster when you've never done it before
Another great video mate, love watching your content 👏🏻 did you use stop beads on the angles?
Appreciate the expert guidance - thanks man :)
Also what a great girl you’ve got there good steady camera work 10/10 🎉
Hello Maisie! Kirk, I'm looking to buy another Marshaltown, already have a permashape and a 16×4. What are the main differences between a permashape and an Xlite, apart from more expensive and a different coloured metal?
Looks amazing mate
Loving your work mate
I noticed you used hook on beads. When they first came out I thought they were the mutts nuts. Saves stapling or sticking with adhesive ,messing around in general. However I've since decided that the extra gear I have to lay on around beads means it's 6mm thick . This is fine on corners as its easy enough to feather, but on window reveals with only 150 mm to play with if you feather it in it shows, meaning it's gotta be 6 mm up to frame side. Making it tricky to keep straight. I resorted to a reveal tool to get them spot on. A real shame that they can't produce a 3mm version .
Any thoughts.?
That's why om not getting the finish o use to get because the trowel isn't broken on properly at college and there trowels what other people have used would that make a big difference using trowels what other people have used kirk 🤔 just a question
What a beautiful relationship.
we used to tap the handle stem with a lat hammer made the corners bend up slightly
Kirk have you ever had a Mt trowel misshapen? I have one here thats like a ~ if you look along the edge of it. I could get a decent finish with it but bought a new one and was better from out the box.
Love the channel kirk, from Ireland keep it up mate,, proper plasterer
Inspiring to watch cheers
Crackin content captin
when your fitting new plasterboard do you have to put scrim tape to existing ceilings and existing walls ? thankyou
Brilliand video Kirk - you can never hgave too much knowledge!
Wondering, can you take down the blade edge with a whetstone?
Can you do a video on timings i.e when to walk away and when to apply second coat etc as i believe this is a big deal, thanks
Now then Kirk been a while mate hope ye well been chocka mate back on board watching and catching bck up with ye vids av a good1 muck 😉👍
Nice detailed vid. I’ve only ever used stainless marshalltown trowels but I’ve recently bought and am currently wearing in an Ox 18inch stainless from screwfix, mainly just to see if it can hold its own compared to the marshalltowns. About 4 weeks in to wearing it in now and it’s just about starting to become less offensive. Was also only £33 compared to the £75-£80 for the marshalltown equivalent. Will be interesting to see how long it lasts and if I’m ever able to get it finishing as crisp as my marshalltown!
Keep up the good work, love from a fellow born-on-the-trowel plasterer 👍🏻
Top job 👌🏻
Haha. I always hit a curb if i need Asap. Other than that i obviously use floating or Sand and Cement to brake it in. Or floor screeds ✌️🙏
nice job spread
I got a Marshall town gold brilliant worked well from the box
Although you took the hard edges off the trowel by rubbing them away on a kerb on the road.... You wore the edges in the wrong direction... You rubbed very fine grooves in to your trowel edge at 90 degrees to how you would apply your plaster.... This is why your trowel dragged your plaster. You should have rubbed the trowel edges along the kerb in the same direction as you would to apply plaster..... By doing this... The fine grooves in your trowel will be in the same direction as your trowel stroke, reducing that drag and speeding up the trowel's wearing in time. Always move in the same direction as you apply plaster.
Your spot on mate thank you
@@Onthetrowel Only too glad to help 🙂 Keep up the cracking work m8 🙂
I never knew that would make a difference, thanks. 👍
Love watching yo plaster kirk your an artist
Thankyou mate
Is it possible to take a file to the edge to sharpen it up?
Another great video
What’s your thoughts on sponging the wall after first coat to flatten
What size is this trowel? Thanks for the videos mate love watching them. Hope you had a great Christmas
Just a note I thought you would bring up mate plaster/dirty water on that oak fireplace will stain it black! A nightmare to remove! 👍
I run a flap wheel up and down mine or use it for rendering jobs before I use it for plastering..
Let it go off a bit on that first coat before a flatten in playing with it to much is always a c@star # 😂 ive learnt so many lessons over 17 years and still I’m learning.
I found out the hard way as an apprentice working behind a live socket😂 It threw me accross the room into a book shelf that collapsed on me, trowel had a 2 penny peice hole on the toe end of it😮
I've been a Plasterer of all types for 30 years, we haven't used hawks in 25 years. They simply slow down production. 6 inch Broad knife and a 20 x 5 trowels the only way to go for spreading
In the good old days we used two trowels one broken in for finishing. One breaking in on render, sand and cement.
I'm a retired spread and my arms are hurting just watching you ,
Love a brand new marshaltown trowel prefer new to worn in better shape
Absolutely AMAZING video again Kirk!
And what’s more, is this a new camera? It was like I was stood in the room watching, it was that clear!
Some of those close-ups were so unbelievably helpful!! Top praise to Maisie the camera girl for her amazing work there!
God, if you could do a full length tutorial again in future with this camera and these close ups, touch tests, I believe I could finally plaster my house myself 🤣
I prefer the Ox trowel handle; Its rubber all the way round the corner so You dont rub the metal / start of the grip with your index finger all day and rub muck in the gap.. I find that annoying. Also the handle is short and and fat on the Marshaltown. I crunch my knuckles when I start down low and pull up a wall. Dont say Im holding it wrong because thats how I feel best in that situation my knuckles are catching the rivet section. The Ox handle seems a little longer so I can grip it with all fingers properly and not as fat so I dont catch my knuckles. I have both. The Marshaltown has a far superior blade and comes more curved out the box ( always get the permashape gold version! pre worn and better quality steel.) I You think the standard version is nice then its nothing on the legit permashape!) The Ox has a superior handle and is nicer to hold! I use both depending.
At what stage do you get rid of your old trowels
Why is it that you've always got tuns of sockets to go round 🤣
Great camera work too 👍🏻 (you don't see many 14 year old's labouring for there dad 👍🏻)
Is it just better (for an amateur) to buy a pre-worn trowel?
I spent months breaking in a Tyzack, Marshaltown, changed the game.
It seems all plasterers advise sanding down the edge of new trowels. So why do manufacturers not supply them ready sanded?
The black banded trowels are not pre worn . Thats why the gold banded permashape sells better. They all need wearing overtime though dont they ? In my opinion
I prime the board with a little bit of gear before putting a big blob on.
Made it look easy, damn.
Any plasterers file off the sharp edges?
Is that trowel still up for grabs. Starting a plastering course next month. Tried your link but it doesnt work. Cheers pal
Thought u could buy pre rounded ?
my fate is a plasterer. he was doing a job at mine and was doing the internal corners with a brush and i noticed the brush was that worn down, there was hardly any bristles left. I said mate, can't you just go get a new brush? here i'll get one out the garage for ya. and he said no no, its taken years to get the brush perfect like it is!
i was in a shock lol
Best trowel there is out there
Quick question, on the second coat, did you reuse the plaster that was in the bucket from the first coat? Going to go break my trowel in a bit on the curb ^^
Yes I just wet it up an re mixed it but be warned,it seats faster when you do this
Yes I can
Hi Kirk. Your videos are always packed with valuable info. Can I ask you mentioned that you usually use a 4inch wide trowel, does it dramatically effect the amount of gear you can get on the trowel each time as the blade is 25mm narrower?
I’ve heard that the narrower blades are soo much easier on the wrist and joints as the distance from the hand and the edge of the blade is less and therefore the pressure required to trowel up is significantly reduced.
Well it sort of does a little bit but not that much that you would notice. I'm quite happy to sacrifice that little bit of extra spread for the compensation on my wrist.
That said most people would be fine with a wider trowel. I abused my wrist for years with 18" and 22" trowels thinking was cleaver on the building sites
@@Onthetrowel as someone who’s still quite new in the plastering trade I feel the slightest difference in everything lol! I recently brought a tyzack 14x4.5 trowel and there is a noticeable difference in the way it just feels in the hand, feels better than the marshalltown, and the narrower blade definitely makes a difference, it may be just in my head that’s why I thought id ask you.
Learnt so much from you so far and I appreciate all the advise.
Why haven’t company’s started selling trowels that are already broken in ? Could it be done ?
Thanks
Thank you very much mate