First NEW TROWEL in 7 years!
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- A Marshalltown trowel review of sorts.
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Switched to trowel starting with the one you just got about a few months ago. Spent hours deciding on what on I wanted. I absolutely love it! Glad to hear I got a good one
I've watched you feather many an edge in your videos and I swear I can actually SEE the difference in this one. BTW I love all my M'town tools and I'm loving your new one with you!
I'm finishing my detached garage (just moved into a new house) and have been watching tons of your videos. I've been using a knife and hawk so far, but this trowel has found its way into my Amazon cart. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
Keep up the amazing work Ben you always do and amazing job on your work and your videos. Your videos never disappoint.
I’m just an occasional drywaller but I have always used a straight knife and pan until my last project several months ago. Ripped out the crumbling plaster walls of my family room and replaced with drywall. I hate cleaning the pan and went with a 14” hawk and swapped the knife for the Marshalltown 13 in. x 5 in. Golden Stainless Steel curved finishing trowel with the Durasoft handle. Thank you so much for for your prolific use of the hawk and trowel to convert me. I will never go back to the pan unless I’m mixing hot mud. I’m very satisfied with the Marshalltown trowel. Trowel was $57 U.S.
Im a Marshall town guy myself they make some really good knifes and have been around for years. They also make some really nice skimming blades. Looks good keep up the great work love your videos!
Nice demo on Marshalltown trowel. Tools make the man.
I got the same one a few days ago, but the 12" version. Never plastered before, but been watching a bunch of videos(a lot of yours) before I start the job.
Hahah I love the truck reference. That is definitely the independent trowel.
Badlands skater here VC, Pipeline Skatepark 1977-80. Keep it alive brother! You do nice work, I've learned a lot.
Old Skool!!!
I have that same trowel Ben, and I love it
Grew up using marshalltown trowels. Have been slowly moving into level 5 knives and skim blades. Like em a lot.
Oh yeah and use to skate my beloved indy 151's!
I have two stainless steel trowels, both marshalltown. I'm still getting used to using a trowel, but the one room and hallway I skim-coated I was really happy with. I did take the sharp point off the corners, but just a very small rounding of them.
Level 5 has some really nice trowels. I'm using the Ultraflex .04mm. Good for me who doesn't have a lot of hand strength for most trowels yet.
Hi Ben, thanks so much for for the great videos on drywall. I have been doing my reno for a few months now and your videos have help sooo much :) I still have a real pain with bubbles. Could you make a video on drywall over VOG panels (Vinyl over Gyprock)? Wow its a challenge lol . Manufactured home needed a paint job so I removed the battons ,taped and mud the joints. Oh for additional challenge , VOG panels are not tapered so all joints are butts. I carved out the joints, confilled them, then tapping mud, then all purpose and lastly finishing mud. All layers after the taping mud experiencing lots of bubbles.
@Robert Swaine I did my homework for about 6 months, lol still learning though. Ben's videos have been the most helpful but I also checked the VOG panel manufacturer as well. The trick is ,at least for me is wash walls with TSP twice. Carve out the butts and fill with confill. Mix taping mud with PVA glue and tape normally. First coat is with general purpose with a little PVA. Next was a learning curve but Ben's bubble solution video of a wet skim followed by fill seems to be working out. After final I have been using an oil based primer/sealer with 2 coats over the compound and VOG panels. Then I apply 2 coats of paint. The finished walls look great but working alone it takes a long time lol. Now that it's fall winter I am going to switch to hot mud (Pro set 90 ) on the initial coat after taping to speed up drying and finishing with the higher humidity. PS, The first part of the reno was done spring of 22 and I am just getting back to indoor work to finish it off . The reno is looking great and no fails after about 6 months so I think by doing the research and following good advice it can be done. Tongue and groove ceiling next :)
thank you so much 🤠🙏👍
Marshalltown 14x5" Golden SS Drywall Trowel (bought at Lowes) for $47 USD (~$60 CAD). After spreading carpet glue on floors for many years, the size seemed just right. Might feel differently about that after doing ceilings! I know there's always better, but this is the best trowel I've ever had for sure. Still a mudding newbie but kept 99% of it on the hawk and/or on the walls. Got to give the trowel some of the credit. Marshalltown also makes GREAT 4" and 6" SS taping knives--the blade and handle are like one, seamless, integrated piece. Amazing. So smooth. Easy to keep clean. FINALLLY, the tip Ben gave about the curve in the taping knives was pure gold. Made all the difference. Thank you!
Have you been looking in my blade box😂😂😂
Ben is slightly trashing Nela but I would say their finishing blades and trowels are jazz. I find the 5" width on this 13x5 Marshaltown a bit too wide for me. 4.5" / 110mm is the right spot for me
Feathered. I love Curry trowels, I have tried just about every trowel on the market and I always go back to curry. I won't use anything else. When I heard they stopped making them I bought multiples in different sizes. I have around 18 to last me a lifetime. They are the best imo.
I never heard they stopped until too late.
the amount of area you can quickly cover is awesome... helps to be 100 feet tall !! lol. I have to use a ladder.
Wow very helpful thank you for the video
Nela Premium MediFLEX Finishing Trowel
14" X 4.9" / BiKo GRIP® Cork
Pretty sweet trowel😀
Im going to get a Nela 12x4 but the top of the line has two types a very flexible blade and I think a stiffer curved blade type. Im new to this so which would be best for my last coat when taping joints?
Lovely trowel. All I use for plastering (uk) is carbon steel. So much nicer to use than stainless and the finish is far superior when to a flexi trowel
Thanks!
Love your videos… suggestion: have you considered adding dye to your mud so it contrasts and is easier for the camera to see when contrasted against drywall/white primed/painted wall/ceiling?
The kind of pink dye that turns white upon drying maybe?
This might be the stupidest thing I've read on TH-cam.
Shark tank
@@waytospergtherebro then you haven’t read much of anything on youtube. This is f’ing genius compared to the really stupid shit on youtube.
You will be surprised - European filler/joint muds have exactly that. Slightly pink or grayish and turn white on drying
I love watching your videos. Learn a lot from them. Thank you.
I notice that sometimes your check which way your trowels for the curve. Which way should the curve be in relation to the wall?
Thanks.
I have the exact same one! Home Depot sells them for $79, these are great. The handle is still clean on mine, no mud sticks to the rubber
Me too 😀
Look for acme tools if you have one. They were selling this for $45USD last week
I like the handle too, but I’m OCD on cleaning and drying my blades😏😏
FYI- I just patched some panels in my garage using the hauk and this trowel. But the reason for my comment is that I used one of the cheap LED rubber head lamps to get better light and it worked very well.
do you use something like zinsser gaurdz on a painted surface before skimming or not necessary?
Yep you finally bought the same I got enjoy it!
I've been using Marshalltown for 4 decades now and I have the gold series now with a straight handle, i find the curved handle doesn't feel smooth rolling in the hand. SOMETIMES i have to bend the handle up just for my knuckle to not hit. There's less room for big hands with a curved handle.
They come pre- sharpened but I always run it through a smooth cement floor to take the factory edge off and sharpen it up.
But I'm sure you know that a worked in trowel is worth more than a new one..
Anyways,jus thought I'd share.
Have an awesome day 😎
GREAT VIDEO
I AM PLASTERER 1963
I go through pool trowels when doing concrete pretty often.
Crk.
Broken one this weekend when doing a 30 foot slappy.
The guys I used to work with HATED having to get a new trowel. Sanding and bending up the corners to try and break it in. I think I can get the 12" one at ACE for $35.
Marshalltown makes nice stuff!!
I had the Skywalker 2.0 stilts and I loved them🤙🏽
Used em painting...
But for some dumbass reason I pawned for cheap.. intended to go back for them but just never did🤷🏼 IDK why
They are discontinued and super pricey on eBay😿
I'm an idiot. Trying to get better though🤣
Thanks Ben
Feel the thunder 🤘🏽
I use a 12x5 Marshalltown to run my bead, Nela flex trowel for topping coat and Marshalltown 14x5 for all skimming. Good trowels. I grew up using curved trowels. That's what my father taught me with. Happy i made the switch a few years back. I use boxes on larger jobs, but still love the look of a job finished by hand. Beautiful work as always. Love the videos
So do you use a flat trowel now? Im going to get a Nela 12x4 but the top line has two types a very flexible blade and I think a stiffer curved blade type. Im new to this so which would be best for my last coat when taping joints?
@@allanpennington , for finish coat i use a 14"x5" marshalltown. I like a stiffer blade for finish coat. I use the flex blade for topping coat. I don't like the flex blade for finish coat though. I use flat boxes(10" and 12") on larger jobs though.
@@robcosenza5569 Thanks I’m new to the terminology. I’m just going for a Level 4 finish I.e. no skimming. The guide I have says first coat to imbed tape in joint with 4 inch broad knife, second coat a little wider with 5 inch knife, then last coat with 12x4 trowel. This is on tapered edge joints. Butt joints obviously somewhat wider. So is my third/last coat a finishing or topping coat! Thanks
@@allanpennington , i use my six to spread the mud and wipe down when i bed tape. I top over that with the 12x4 flat flex trowel. Then, i finish coat with the 14x5 trowel. 14 inch isnt necessary. It's just what i learned with. So, i continue with it when i do jobs by hand. You want to make sure that the bevel is full and the tape is covered on your second coat. Honestly, it doesn't really matter what you use as long as everything is flat and smooth buddy!
@@allanpennington , the terminology is tough. Depending on which region or country you're in, we all use different terms.
Indys on Thunder bases FTW. Best of both worlds. Man that comment took me back 🤙🏻
LEVEL 5 Flex .4mm and UltraFlex .3mm are the pinnacle of trowels. The whole design is impeccable making most these brands you see in stores obsolete.. no need to break-in any of the trowels because the blade has machined beveled edges..
I often see you looking down your knife for the bow in the blade and am curious if that bow ever changes sides? For instance would it be a bad idea to find the bow once and then permanently mark that side of the handle somehow?
It's not only exchange rates - there's also economy of scale (or so I'm told). Many times I find Canadian $ prices twice that of American $
As probably the only hawk and knife user ever, this trowel business is some kind of sorcery.
Nope, Hawk and knife here too! I just can’t wrap my head around using a trowel on drywall… reminds me too much of tiling! But I do resort to a pan for a really thin topcoat.
i do it too. i only use pan to wipe out tapes. hawk for everything else. but i also use trowel.
Feather your edge grasshopper 😂🤘 your new Marshalltown looks great. Stampede Drywall thinks you rock.
somehow i got this trowel for 6 bucks at home depot a few years ago. a pricing mistake 😅i think it was labelled as a concrete trowel. 13x5 is a great size for a one and done trowel. 13 good mid length, 5" you dont dig knuckles into corner too much
I love their knives, at that price though I don’t think I’d bite for trying out a trowel.
Where do you buy your knives? Do you get them from the big box stores or a specialty store?
Everytime you post a drywall video, it makes me want to smash up a wall just to patch up new drywall!!
Feather that edge is becoming tha catch phrase like Bob Ross' beat the devil out of it!!
Nella black trowels are amazing..I like just as much as curry trowel u can buy Nella black at csr or the curry st Bob's taping
I see more and more finishers using these trowels I have never tried using one, I want to buy one are they the same trowels used for concrete finishing?
I have a bunch of marshall town, but also Level 5, what do you prefer?
Thanks for the reminder to feather that like button!
I love marshalltown. Try a 4 inch width blade, they are alot better on the wrist than the 5 👍
What brand is the 6 inch knife that you're using
I guess I've been really yucky. I've skim coated about half the walls in my 2200 square foot home . I also re-sheetrocked the other half and at no time did I ever get these bubbles you keep talking about. I've also helped several friends and family with their sheetrock hanging and remodeling. I almost feel like maybe I'm doing something wrong! Lol! Now I will say on the walls I skim coated I sanded them. But when I say sand I used 180 grit just to knock the paint down a bit and to give the mud something to grab. Anyways I just thought it was weird.
I like mine, that gold coating seems to cut down on the mud sticking to the trowel.
Dewalt started selling trowels and mud knives at select Home Depot’s here in the states . What’s your thought on those ? They look pretty but not sure how good they are since … new product
I'm currently using the same trowel I purchased on your link. Have we seen this trowel since 🤔. Hope all is well...
what mix is that as its clearly not plaster? Why use it over plaster? im interested in your feedback
Marshal town has Very good tools that almost always perform exceedingly well. I will admit I prefer their stainless steel tools over their blue steel brand of tools, stainless last nearly forever and the blue one will rust away if you take your eyes off of them. I personally use a mud knife and pan.
Not sure in Canada I'f you guys have the OX brand.they are awesome , or try NELA .
Excuse me I am new , what’s the purpose of that skim coat , is that always the final coat a skim coat ? Like after taping the ceiling . Because the ceiling looks good already , however the camera does lie
Im doing this for the first time so all my trowels are new. I sanded the edges down, but it keeps skimming off the tape when i pass over it, then it creates streaks in the next pass ;
Let like to see u repair a bathroom 3 piece shower wall around the edges .
Hey…I have that same trowel…how come my drywall results are so much worse. As they say, buying a brush doesn’t make you an artist.
16:52 Nice comment...it only matters how it looks when you take it off! That's what (Ben) said.
now I feel I need a new pair of indys! I mean, a new trowel!
You can tell how good he is because he can wear a black t-shirt while mudding drywall.
You have a skate channel? I was always a venture guy myself lol.
I associate MarshallTown with concrete trowels. Is there a difference between concrete and drywall trowels?
This is my question also. When I use to finish concrete and got a new trowel we would place a dime on a flat clean surface at the end of the front bar. Then take a hammer and hit the bar just in front of the handle. This would set the front of the trowel so that it wouldn't leave lines in the concrete. I was wondering if that might be done with a drywall trowel?
@@rickkrieger4455 Conventional drywall trowels are curved not flat. The trowel Ben is using is a flat trowel. 13x5 has some decent flex to it as that's what you want when finishing drywall. I don't know much about concrete to know if trowels need to be stiff vs flexible.
honestly i think they are interchangable...
They basically are interchangeable, but I believe drywall trowels are made with a more flexible material. Also many brands put a handle-ways curve into the towels for feathering. In Canada though, you can buy trowels that are curved the other way, leaving a sort of mud hump on the wall, which, as it dries is supposed to flatten out, because the thickest part of the mud will shrink the most. I'm not a trowel person, I spent ten years on knives, and since my lead plasterer uses curved trowels (which I tried and got pissed off with) I just put a better curve into my 12" knife and flipped it around, so I'm still basically doing his method but with my tools.
@@Zyo117 the only point of that inverted curve trowel is to fill 1st coats on flat tape joints. 1 trowel width of mud. Far too limited of a tool for me
Have you ever taped/finished a full house
This is so ironic, I bought the 12x5 version and it arrived today, haven't used it but I felt the quality was pretty good.
Got to use the trowel to wear one out you mad man. 😅
It's amazing what an extra inch can make.
TWSS
….not gonna make the joke….not gonna make the joke……
I will, that’s what she said! Lol
Your like the Mr. Rodgers of skim coating. You should wear a cardigan sweater and change your shoes in the beginning of your videos.
More advice on three ways?
Is this considered carpentry in Canada?
Thanks. But a bit less than the other comment. Thanks for the content!
👍👍
I use Nela trowel find its the best
Which one?
@@badchips10 been using the 13 by 4 finishing trowel i love it. Been a commercial taper for 35 years now
I bought a set of nela putty knives and they are pretty awesome too
почему ты не используешь специальный валик, ведь им наносить быстрее и удобнее parfait liss
This trowel is very heavy for drywall taping , skimming and it will make you extremely slow…it is good when you do plastering.
My Nela is quiet on my hawk almost no noise
No matter what trowel ive bought ive had to cut off the handle as its takes the skin off my knuckles a half inch longer stem would be better
seriously who understood thunder/indy debate except us skaters ? hahaha 🤣
I like hitting new trowels with an orbital sander
2:54 - I was surprised he said this trowel is flexible. I’ve never owned a different one but it feels super stiff to me and nearly impossible to flex. Am I crazy? Disclaimer - I’m not a pro by any means.
We might have a different model.
$60 CAN is not $60 US, but it's listed on Amazon for $61 US.
Would .. typo from last message
And the first thing you noticed is that it cost twice as much. 😢
I have the same trowel, but my skills are not even close to his
I went to buy a trowel today and they were all cupped badly it was a shame
Bummer
I hate breaking in new trowels and knives.
Play on 1.5
ummm SKATE VIDEOS???? link plz
Love curry trowels and the gold stainless (aka, which is heat treated, and why gets a golden color), and imo, makes for some greats trowels, but yeah….curry trowels not easy to find anymore.
Cheers Ben✌🏻
I don't know why Ben replaced his old 12" with a 13", but it may have been easier to purchase (from Amazon). I want to try using a hawk and trowel (Ben is very persuasive!), but I thought it would be easier to learn with a 12" (just as he has used for 7 years). His new trowel is a Marshalltown DuraFlex which I believe is the most flexible. I could not find the 12" online except directly from Marshalltown (model 4663DFDL, item number 14663).
I wanted to try a Marshalltown for about 10 years. I'm back on my old 12
I absolutely hate the handles on these trowels. Level makes really nice leather grips, but every other company puts cheap handles on an $80 to $100 trowel. Annoying
“If I had a million bucks I’d tell you what I’d do Ben, 2 chics at the same time. It’d probably take a million bucks to get a couple of chics to double up on a dude like me.” Oh, wrong 3way. My bad …. Lol
At least it’s not GULLWING! Holy, bend all to Hell ridin’ vert. Jesus Christ Pose…Christian Hoisoi!!!!!😁
Skate videos? What? Where? Who????
Go to Ben De Gros
I've got this trowel and it's absolute garbage. Ragni all the way
I watch your videos just to hear you tell us to feather the like button. 🥲