I really like this video. I know it's just another niche product video, but I really like how balanced it all is. There's positivity about the design while still critiquing. Education while still having fun.
@@FREQQLES Yeah, you are correct that they said it was designed for i9s, so they did set a high expectation... However, to be fair, there's not many SFF cases that wouldn't thermal throttle with that hardware... If you're an SFF builder, then you're well aware that you have to make some trade-offs for the form factor... Also bare in mind that they didn't mention undervolting; again something that SFF builders immediately lean heavily on... For goodness sake, theres plenty of examples of 14900k owners struggling to cool their CPU with a 360AIO and a crap ton of fans!... And finally, don't forget that that was throttling in Cinebench, a 100% synthetic load that pulls 250-300W with that CPU - even a 14900K only pulls an approximate maximum of 120W when gaming. My point being; it was a mistake to make such a broad statement that set expectation unreasonably high to begin with... Your average PC builder wouldn't neccessarily take for granted that there will have to be a bit of a trade off somewhere. And yes, I know I talked about gaming a lot, and not productivity workflows, but with a productivity setup you'd be erring towards a compromise on case size, using a larger case that can accommodate one or even two 360mm radiators to cool the beheomoth that is the 14900K!... Horses for courses.
I don't know if it was just me but several times throughout the video, it sounded like the mic audio had been doubled up and ever so slightly out of sync (like a couple ms) for a couple seconds each time. eg 8:15 , 12:41 and 13:40
it's because both of them have mics on them and when they get close to each other it doubles the voices.. also probably because they use wireless stuff which introduces that desync
even then. the lack of concentricity and support on the fan will cause issues. there is a reason why boats, fans, and submarines all use a relatively common design. this thing will destroy itself quite quickly. twist a straw in your fingers loosely then with one hand slowly add pressure (simulating a bearing wearing) and apply pressure until it eventually wears unevenly and seizes. I could see that thing flopping as it was spinning almost immediately, personally I wouldn't expect it to last much more than a years worth of use with the current design.
@@hunterromano5562 I think it will be just as reliable as your standard axial fan in a PC case. These fans are in use in HVAC equipment. I have one in my furnace and mini split AC. My furnace is over 25 years old and the fan is still running quite strong. Plus you see that design used in industrial equipment.
Honestly for the manufacturing complexity and how well thought out the build process is for a small form factor case that can accommodate a full size gpu the price seems super fair to me. When they started alluding to the price I thought it was going to be in the 600-700 range. If I didn't have a ton of storage drives and it being too early for a system rebuild/upgrade I would consider this case if I was going for a small desktop unit. It looks super clean and well done unlike a lot of small desktop form factors that look imo like pretentious crap, hopefully meshless does well I like their approach and look forward to more designs from them.
I was also expecting a much higher price. $350-$400 is around what those NZXT H1 cases were going for (those included a 120mm AIO + SFX PSU, but were not made as well as these, nor could they accommodate massive GPUS). This thing seems quite fairly priced. If I was in the market for a new case, I’d be taking a long look at this one.
@@kenshinhimura9387 no it isnt, if you want the cheapest case then get the cheapest case. this is not a normal case. no one else makes it so for i care they could charge 1000 bucks, 360 for this is really good
Yeah, i mean i would never voluntarily spend that much money on any computer case, but im also not the target audience. Its a niche, premium product and for what it is it is pretty reasonable compared to the other contenders. I was expecting quite a bit more than the 360 too.
I hope these guys do good. 360 for this case for such a niche audience and design is pretty reasonable I think. Having something this small, that can fit this much power is difficult to begin with. Add onto that, the ease of assembly, and incredibly clever and well thought out design, make this case almost a no brainier for someone who was going to spend as much as the rest of the components in the system cost already. My main concern is how reliable the fan will be and how easy it will be to get a hold of a new one since meshless is the only one that makes it, because it's so non-standard. I hope these guys do some great business, because it would be such a shame for something like this to die and users can only use this case for as long as the fan lives.
I'd consider it but I don't really like the look, I'll be paying attention for there next case, if it's more attractive I'll seriously consider it because it does seem like a great company
those fans are easy to strip from older electrical convection heaters also from old defect airco units. been using them for years so if on a strict budget go to the local dump. many can operate on 12 volt and the voltage plus amperage is generally found on the fan housing. only issue is they are not black but almost always a dirty grey metal. still have them running after 9 years inside my hifi cabinet to pull air away from the amp which is the Marantz SR7001 which can get hot.
There's actually a single server (that I know of) that uses a type of cross-flow fan. The Dell VRTX came out in 2012 and it's an "under the desk" solution for branch offices that need local servers. It's a type of blade server specifically designed to be deployed in an office space. They use four squirrel cage fans (cross flow) to cool the blades and several more traditional fans to cool the main board and hard drives. I use one as a home server and it's noise levels are very good (compared to other servers). It does sound just like a bit of white noise, exactly as you described. The one downside is the heat generation. While the VRTX has good acoustics, that doesn't stop it's massive heat generation from its 4x1200 watt PSUs. With each blade running 2x Xeon CPUs, you end up with 8 CPUS running in a small form factor server with 24 hard drives in its integrated SAN. It goes beyond a space heater into the realm of a house heater or sauna.
Yeah I know they use multiple mics when recording (they say due to how much linus moves around) it sounded like both were coming through giving a slight reverb/echo
as an SFF pc builder and owner who used multiple SFF cases, this by far is the easiest one to assemble a PC with. if only there are normal cube / slim tower cases that are this easy to install. and the fact that they ask you what power supply you are using so they can make custom cables for you is amazing.
Yeah same. Personally for me it's too much, but if you got the money I wouldn't call it a bad investment. If build quality stays on the level of the review units at least.
Definitely less than I was expecting, but still more than I'd be willing to spend on a case, but I'm also not really the target audience since SFF isn't really something I like
Swap out your easily replaceable commodity case fans for this one bespoke low volume part! What could possibly go wrong when you need to source a replacement impeller motor in 3 years time from some company that ceased trading
I have never spent even $200 on a PC case before. My last 3, in order, were the DeepCool Baronkase, Lian Li O11 Mini, and Louqe Raw S1. I will be switching to this as soon as it releases. This is such a unique case and it looks absolutely gorgeous. It seems built like a tank too. My only real worry is obtaining a replacement fan if the original breaks. Even so, I will be buying this as soon as it is available in a few days.
I bought a case in 2007 with a cross flow fan in it. It was the Cooler Master CM Stacker STC-T01-UW. It was complete with a rear cross flow fan port. Worked incredibly well when trying to air cool everything!
Cross flow Fans are really great for Tower Room fans, I got one, it's basically just a case around a massive Cross flow Fan. They also find use in heaters because they can move a lot of air. And this is probably the first case I see in a long, long time that actually deserves the price tag. The majority of sheet metal cases out there are overpriced.
Most of the price for overpriced case goes into the branding. In this case, the price is justifiable, even incredible to say, that's a lot of custom stuff and with such a small batch, I don't even know how they pull out a price as low as that
That case is frankly one of the most thoughtful PC case ever built. Not as easy as a mid tower or full tower, but for an itx case it looks rather easy to put stuff in correctly & easily. It, and the build quality rather justify the price.
Not really a form factor that I'd go for, I like my full towers, but yes.. for how it was engineered and with 4090's / i9's.. that's not honestly a silly price.
I've just rewatched the 3D printed PC case video from a few years ago and thought it would be cool if you guys did a competition about who could make the coolest PC using a 3D printer. I imagine you'd probably want to keep it between 2 people given it would take up a lot of time on the LTT printers. I think this would make a fun video :)
Fr, this is totally not a rip-off! Fully extruded, well engineered tolerances and totally unique design. I checked their site and either they’re sold out already or haven’t officially launched yet.
I had 3.5" hard disk enclosures, well they were drive bays for my full tower PC, with this type fan back in the early 2000's. I forget the company, they were not cheap but well made. Even had little flip down fronts with a mesh filter, washable, and adjustable speeds. No idea if they were worth it but my drives ran cool and never failed. That build, roughly $3500 in 1999, lasted 10 plus years...
like my family had a new computer in the late 2000s that couldn't even load web pages in a reasonable time frame (like 15min load times) after a few years
It's impressive to see how effective the crossflow fan is in this setup. It's a bit on the pricy side but the build quality and unique features justify the cost in my opinion.
This is really cool. I could see this working really well for the side vent in the front on the NZXT h510 case. If you could have of those fans directly pull air through that side vent and blow it forward in the case, that case would have much better airflow.
It's not just the silicone of those wires, the individual strands are also much smaller, (they are like hairs). That makes the cable more flexible but adds to the cost as well. So it's a combo of the silicone and the fine wires.
4:30 "I don't know where it goes and couldn't figure it out. Their manual is not done." 10:48 "We didn't even need to watch their really nicely done instruction videos" ^This kind of stuff is the reason you made the apology video 9:25
@Sydney_2011 he talked about it on a Wan Show episode. When he first grew the beard she was kinda comparing the pros and cons of him having and not having a beard. Now he's appeared as his younger self and she immediately wanted his beard back ahahahahah
I think that a v2 of this case would do it a lot of good on the price front. There are a couple custom things that could be significantly cheaper has they gone about it slightly differently. It is a beautiful case with a lot of cool ideas. Im looking forward to whats next from these guys.
Used to have a fan like that in my pc when pc building was fun and cahllenging not just pick parts of the shelf and assemble it. This just make me feel old.
I suspect that their vocals crossed over from one person to the other. It would be easy to cut out one person at a time, but take some work if they are both talking.
Please disable multiple audio mics, there is a chorus effect that is really off putting, just put a gate plugin at the front, adjust it's input to allow audio after a certain threshold, you might have to go back to the team and ask for specific placement of mics and lavalier's to ensure best audio quality but leaving multiple mics on is not the way to go!
"Expensive" is relative for that cross flow fan. A single Corsair LL RGB 120mm fan goes for more money than that. Sure, more bling but if we're going for function over form, it's not out of this world pricing. Also, this'd push more air than a single 120mm so you'd be needing 2-3x of them, making for similar price anyway when buying cheapo fans. Easily palatable pricing if it solves your needs. Hope to see them in more SFF builds!
i actually had a SFF case and crammed one near my GPU, i slightly damaged the PCB, but i got it to be far cooler, and it worked i got it to be basically full fan speed performance with idle fan speed noise level it might not sound like much, but thats an AMAZING tradeoff on another note, i think we need governments to add wattage restrictions for individual components, so companies get creative to get these systems to work without all of these dangerous new connectors that keep causing fires, or wattage requirements that would either overload house wiring or need rewiring to get it to work properly the "80 series" and "80ti series" class of cards need to be the highest wattage card under such a rule, and i mean that as in the current cards in terms of wattage requirements (or lower) the idea would be that you get things more power efficient for a myriad of reasons, but one could be that you then have a set thermal performance target, and thus another way to determine a part's lifespan capability
I really love the case design. I don't have the space for a big tower, but I love the compact size. I'm really really interested in this build and will be saving this video for later.
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Silicone covered wire isn't more expensive to purchase but its more expensive for assembly because its so fragile it has to be handled carefully to prevent cuts in the silicone housing. unless you are placing the wire lose to a heat source its not the best option.
That is a super cool case. And I think the cost of the fan was being overstated a little considering its the only fan the case has. Sure you could buy a multipack of cheaper fans for the cost of one long boi, but you would need that whole multipack to keep a standard computer case cool. Hell even my ammo can computer has 3, though admittedly the 40mm is just there cuz I thought it was cool lol
I have that portable cross flow fan in the video which is supposed to be for laptop cooling. It doesn't quite work on gaming laptops, but after my desktop went dead and I decided to just use egpu on my work laptop, I figured out that this kind of thing is great for improving airflow on ultra slim laptops. With some thermal limit unlocking with throttlestop it makes a great choice for gaming. In fact it's even possible to use VR on such setup.
Honestly this is one of the best small factors I have ever seen. It looks extremely easy to build in and the fans seems to just work for general use or gaming. The price is totally justifiable in my opinion, if I ever going to build a small factor, this will definitely be something I would consider buying.
"I don't know where it goes and I couldn't figure it out, so I just didn't put it in." Great to see the quality of LTT videos continues to be the highest possible. And the callout to last August was the 5#it on top.
I certify bio-safety cabinets. Large HEPA filtered machines that isolate lab users and hazardous materials for use in pharmaceuticals. The shape and airflow design of this thing is VERY reminiscent of those machines. The airflow graphic look almost exactly like the technical diagrams we use for training. Knowing nothing about the person who designed this case, I'm willing to bet they have a background in the medical/pharmaceutical industry and took inspiration from such devices.
I have a hard drive that has a cross flow blower fan inside. It sucks air in through vents on the front of the drive bezel, and blows it around the aluminum disk assembly unit, control boards and power supply. It's a Fujitsu Eagle M3251 from 1984...!
The silicone insulation on the cables isn't just to make the extra flexible, it also makes them "Heat proof", I have that on my soldering iron, and if you've ever used a soldering iron with a Silicone cable, you'll never want to go back.
Someone HAS TO recreate this case, but in a reasonable form-factor with a reasonable case. Just imagine a regular sub-100$ case like the NZXT H5 Flow, but with 1, or 2 of these fans jammed in a corner. It could be incredible.
I'm not gonna lie, it is expensive, but I expected it to be absolutely unreasonably high based on the way you guys were talking about it up until the end. I think it's a relatively solid price point for a limited run of a unique, high-quality enthusiast item
I've seen a lot of case reviews that were expensive, but this is the ONLY one that I've seen that has me excited! I would buy this case! I'm very picky and usually only spend $100 to maybe $150 on a case.
Hi there! Free tip for measuring fan noise - capture not only decibels, but also noise spectrum. This will tell how comfortable the noise is, "whiny" or not
ASSMAN has got to be the best abbreviation I've ever heard.
Seinfeld did it first.
Absolutely the best, no butts.
I really like this video. I know it's just another niche product video, but I really like how balanced it all is. There's positivity about the design while still critiquing. Education while still having fun.
The sound is balanced a bit strange at times though! I really noticed some kind of micro-echo while listening on my headphones.
It thermal throttled, it didn't achieve its goal. It deserved more critique.
bonus points for the pun flock.
They learnt from the past 😅
@@FREQQLES Yeah, you are correct that they said it was designed for i9s, so they did set a high expectation... However, to be fair, there's not many SFF cases that wouldn't thermal throttle with that hardware... If you're an SFF builder, then you're well aware that you have to make some trade-offs for the form factor... Also bare in mind that they didn't mention undervolting; again something that SFF builders immediately lean heavily on... For goodness sake, theres plenty of examples of 14900k owners struggling to cool their CPU with a 360AIO and a crap ton of fans!... And finally, don't forget that that was throttling in Cinebench, a 100% synthetic load that pulls 250-300W with that CPU - even a 14900K only pulls an approximate maximum of 120W when gaming.
My point being; it was a mistake to make such a broad statement that set expectation unreasonably high to begin with... Your average PC builder wouldn't neccessarily take for granted that there will have to be a bit of a trade off somewhere.
And yes, I know I talked about gaming a lot, and not productivity workflows, but with a productivity setup you'd be erring towards a compromise on case size, using a larger case that can accommodate one or even two 360mm radiators to cool the beheomoth that is the 14900K!... Horses for courses.
I don't know if it was just me but several times throughout the video, it sounded like the mic audio had been doubled up and ever so slightly out of sync (like a couple ms) for a couple seconds each time. eg 8:15 , 12:41 and 13:40
Noticed this in other videos as well. Good to know it's not just me.
I came here to say that too.
yeah, absolutely true.
it's because both of them have mics on them and when they get close to each other it doubles the voices.. also probably because they use wireless stuff which introduces that desync
Welcome to the world of audio phasing lol
Honestly, this concept is cool. Just a single fan, less wires, less complications, less maintenance and more quiet
its not a single fan tho
there are like 5 others
even then. the lack of concentricity and support on the fan will cause issues. there is a reason why boats, fans, and submarines all use a relatively common design.
this thing will destroy itself quite quickly. twist a straw in your fingers loosely then with one hand slowly add pressure (simulating a bearing wearing) and apply pressure until it eventually wears unevenly and seizes. I could see that thing flopping as it was spinning almost immediately, personally I wouldn't expect it to last much more than a years worth of use with the current design.
and its not quiet/
In industrial equipments and racks this is very common
@@hunterromano5562 I think it will be just as reliable as your standard axial fan in a PC case. These fans are in use in HVAC equipment. I have one in my furnace and mini split AC. My furnace is over 25 years old and the fan is still running quite strong. Plus you see that design used in industrial equipment.
Honestly for the manufacturing complexity and how well thought out the build process is for a small form factor case that can accommodate a full size gpu the price seems super fair to me. When they started alluding to the price I thought it was going to be in the 600-700 range. If I didn't have a ton of storage drives and it being too early for a system rebuild/upgrade I would consider this case if I was going for a small desktop unit. It looks super clean and well done unlike a lot of small desktop form factors that look imo like pretentious crap, hopefully meshless does well I like their approach and look forward to more designs from them.
same here
I was also expecting a much higher price. $350-$400 is around what those NZXT H1 cases were going for (those included a 120mm AIO + SFX PSU, but were not made as well as these, nor could they accommodate massive GPUS).
This thing seems quite fairly priced. If I was in the market for a new case, I’d be taking a long look at this one.
$360 for that case, honestly seems super reasonable.. Looks like great build quality with hyper niche design and great attention to detail.
They really hyped up the price, was fearing 1000 or smth
Yeah it's pricey, but understandable
Bro that is nowhere near reasonable. That is insanely expensive for a PC case which should cost less than $100
Especially when you consider that it includes the aio
@@kenshinhimura9387 no it isnt, if you want the cheapest case then get the cheapest case. this is not a normal case. no one else makes it so for i care they could charge 1000 bucks, 360 for this is really good
Yeah, i mean i would never voluntarily spend that much money on any computer case, but im also not the target audience. Its a niche, premium product and for what it is it is pretty reasonable compared to the other contenders. I was expecting quite a bit more than the 360 too.
16:38 This is funnier to me than it probably should be.
that is his super hero name
no sheep were harmed when Linus rammed it in. Later they had cigarettes.
"I'm Kosmo Cramer, Proctology"
@@AndrewTheRadarMan I'm glad to see this comment. lololol
My fan has more girth
The editor was very happy to have that acronym at 14:20
More likely the writer was laughing his acronym off
And that ASUS booth shot at 13:48 lmao
dude i almost choked on the food i was eating when that came up omfg
16:39 was some genius shit
@@youthoobmoney Cosmo Kramer would be proud
I hope these guys do good. 360 for this case for such a niche audience and design is pretty reasonable I think. Having something this small, that can fit this much power is difficult to begin with. Add onto that, the ease of assembly, and incredibly clever and well thought out design, make this case almost a no brainier for someone who was going to spend as much as the rest of the components in the system cost already. My main concern is how reliable the fan will be and how easy it will be to get a hold of a new one since meshless is the only one that makes it, because it's so non-standard. I hope these guys do some great business, because it would be such a shame for something like this to die and users can only use this case for as long as the fan lives.
I'd consider it but I don't really like the look, I'll be paying attention for there next case, if it's more attractive I'll seriously consider it because it does seem like a great company
You don't hope they do evil?
those fans are easy to strip from older electrical convection heaters also from old defect airco units. been using them for years so if on a strict budget go to the local dump. many can operate on 12 volt and the voltage plus amperage is generally found on the fan housing. only issue is they are not black but almost always a dirty grey metal. still have them running after 9 years inside my hifi cabinet to pull air away from the amp which is the Marantz SR7001 which can get hot.
There's actually a single server (that I know of) that uses a type of cross-flow fan. The Dell VRTX came out in 2012 and it's an "under the desk" solution for branch offices that need local servers. It's a type of blade server specifically designed to be deployed in an office space. They use four squirrel cage fans (cross flow) to cool the blades and several more traditional fans to cool the main board and hard drives. I use one as a home server and it's noise levels are very good (compared to other servers). It does sound just like a bit of white noise, exactly as you described. The one downside is the heat generation. While the VRTX has good acoustics, that doesn't stop it's massive heat generation from its 4x1200 watt PSUs. With each blade running 2x Xeon CPUs, you end up with 8 CPUS running in a small form factor server with 24 hard drives in its integrated SAN. It goes beyond a space heater into the realm of a house heater or sauna.
Bro I ain't reading this novel do a tldr bit for us lazy people
@@crazya8038 it wasn't that much to read. Git gud, iPad kid.
@@crazya8038imagine being that lazy but still leave a comment xd
Damn, what do you do at home with that 4x1200 watt horsepower. Rocket trajectory analysis?
@@crazya8038imagine being lazy to read but not to comment.. 👶👶
Sound was funky in some parts.
Yeah I know they use multiple mics when recording (they say due to how much linus moves around) it sounded like both were coming through giving a slight reverb/echo
Thanks, was wondering if it was my device sounding funky
@@XxSuprTuts99xX Yup, definitely some echo, maybe the mics were slightly off sync.
Can confirm it sounds weird
@@XxSuprTuts99xXBoth mics will likely be mixed different, causing phase issues between the two when both play at the same time.
That opening shot was SMOOOOOTHHHH
@fantaguyrealoh my mother fu©king godddd
@fantaguyreal "subscribe for daily vids"
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as an SFF pc builder and owner who used multiple SFF cases, this by far is the easiest one to assemble a PC with. if only there are normal cube / slim tower cases that are this easy to install.
and the fact that they ask you what power supply you are using so they can make custom cables for you is amazing.
10:42 just had me clenching for another Linus Drop Tips moment.
I full body seized
For the build and features, the price is very reasonable, I was expecting at least twice as much based on your reactions.
Yeah same. Personally for me it's too much, but if you got the money I wouldn't call it a bad investment. If build quality stays on the level of the review units at least.
I saw the price and was about to buy one, but they are sold out already so I’m guessing i wasn’t the only one that thought that
Definitely less than I was expecting, but still more than I'd be willing to spend on a case, but I'm also not really the target audience since SFF isn't really something I like
You're why gpus are outrageous
Swap out your easily replaceable commodity case fans for this one bespoke low volume part! What could possibly go wrong when you need to source a replacement impeller motor in 3 years time from some company that ceased trading
13:46 OMG It's "Born for Gamers"
My brain did not go for the SFW option first...
... If I hadn't seen this comment I wouldn't have noticed what it was meant to be...
To be fair both options seem reasonably plausible
I thought it was that as well because of the "rock solid" part
Snap!
I'm glad I'm not the only one, omg
ASSMAN - very subtle
I disagree. The word was very in your face - not subtle at all.
@@leonro nah dude barely anyone noticed, I'm blind and I almost missed, you must have good eyes
@@leonro only 20% of viewers read text in videos
I think these are criteria that everyone can get behind
Aren't we all
First time I've been amazed by the high price of a SFF case for a good reason. That price sounds super fair for what you get.
I have never spent even $200 on a PC case before. My last 3, in order, were the DeepCool Baronkase, Lian Li O11 Mini, and Louqe Raw S1. I will be switching to this as soon as it releases. This is such a unique case and it looks absolutely gorgeous. It seems built like a tank too. My only real worry is obtaining a replacement fan if the original breaks. Even so, I will be buying this as soon as it is available in a few days.
I bought a case in 2007 with a cross flow fan in it. It was the Cooler Master CM Stacker STC-T01-UW. It was complete with a rear cross flow fan port. Worked incredibly well when trying to air cool everything!
Came here to say that. I am still using the stacker because it is massive.
I've still got my stacker case as well. Monster case. 11 bays. Heavy Duty. Love it.@@revcrussell
14:21 I am a child I laughed more than I care to admit at that part
"Money and Niches" being added at 16:36 made me chuckle.
With the theme being carried over with toilet paper!!! 100/100
Really off metallic sounding audio on some parts of this video.
Cross flow Fans are really great for Tower Room fans, I got one, it's basically just a case around a massive Cross flow Fan.
They also find use in heaters because they can move a lot of air.
And this is probably the first case I see in a long, long time that actually deserves the price tag. The majority of sheet metal cases out there are overpriced.
Most of the price for overpriced case goes into the branding. In this case, the price is justifiable, even incredible to say, that's a lot of custom stuff and with such a small batch, I don't even know how they pull out a price as low as that
A S S M A N
In the beginning of the video. Hmm wierd comment.
After watching the video:
Me -> 😂😂😂
Ass-man?
@@DeltaNrOnetotally!
That case is frankly one of the most thoughtful PC case ever built. Not as easy as a mid tower or full tower, but for an itx case it looks rather easy to put stuff in correctly & easily. It, and the build quality rather justify the price.
Not going to lie, i expected the case to cost more
Maybe I'm out of my mind but I expected it to cost atleast $1000
@@setaindustries I expected about 450 or 500 USD
Nice price actually
Did not expect to see the egg here
Not really a form factor that I'd go for, I like my full towers, but yes.. for how it was engineered and with 4090's / i9's.. that's not honestly a silly price.
The way they hint at the price, and the high quality of it i was expecting towards that figure aswell@@setaindustries
loving the Owen Wilson impression @2:11 "WOW"
I had to look for this comment, wasn't sure if it was supposed to be that
13:47
That bottom part is absolutely insane 😳
Well it's not false tho
*Born
@dakshinaffyt3686 ik but it's covered up so I'm going to abuse it
Make it a subscription service
14:14 is perfect
I've just rewatched the 3D printed PC case video from a few years ago and thought it would be cool if you guys did a competition about who could make the coolest PC using a 3D printer. I imagine you'd probably want to keep it between 2 people given it would take up a lot of time on the LTT printers. I think this would make a fun video :)
I like this kind of fan because it's cooler when used to cut stuff. And the airflow is looking cool
You know I was expecting it to be in the $400-$500 range, at $360 that's not the worst for a unique SFF case.
@fantaguyrealthis comment must be copied and pasted all over interweb
Fr, this is totally not a rip-off! Fully extruded, well engineered tolerances and totally unique design. I checked their site and either they’re sold out already or haven’t officially launched yet.
@fantaguyrealcongrats! You’ve made it!
14:21 lmao it’s been a while since I laughed out loud to a TH-cam video.
the deadpan delivery did it for me
I had 3.5" hard disk enclosures, well they were drive bays for my full tower PC, with this type fan back in the early 2000's. I forget the company, they were not cheap but well made.
Even had little flip down fronts with a mesh filter, washable, and adjustable speeds. No idea if they were worth it but my drives ran cool and never failed. That build, roughly $3500 in 1999, lasted 10 plus years...
Was it Honeywell? I have some old 3U cases with parts from them, including a 30cm cross-flow fan.
I had the cheaper retrofit 5.25" bay fans that stuck out the front, both had bearings fail so yea I understand why they aren't used anymore.
How tf did a nineties compter last you until the 2010s? Did you do nothing but web browse and type on word for that period?
like my family had a new computer in the late 2000s that couldn't even load web pages in a reasonable time frame (like 15min load times) after a few years
@@LaEmporoarCase and Fan, probably not the other parts
about 20 years ago i had a tower with this and it was awesome
1:42 Linus fell off, old Linus would immediately add "that's what she said" 😂😂
Linus with no beard makes me think hes more geeky, which in turn makes me think he knows more about tech lol.
Also making him not look like Dawid 😂
Twink linus is back
LMAO. You know whats funny. Just the other day my wife was like "Oh he looks like a geeky computer guy now"
He went from the dad that can fix any car from experience to the annoying classmate from 11th grade
younger
I'd still love to see one of these fans used in a server! Sounds like a video opportunity.
Ahh yes, the “assman” factors. Those definitely cannot be neglected with case selection
It's impressive to see how effective the crossflow fan is in this setup. It's a bit on the pricy side but the build quality and unique features justify the cost in my opinion.
This is really cool. I could see this working really well for the side vent in the front on the NZXT h510 case. If you could have of those fans directly pull air through that side vent and blow it forward in the case, that case would have much better airflow.
2:08 Linus just hitting me with the random Owen Wilson impression caught me off guard. lol
"Is he even famous anymore" 😭 He was so good in Loki and that was super recent
I’m impressed with Linus’s Owen Wilson impression. 😂
Wow!
But, guess what's even longer than my fan? This segue, to our sponsor!
Another excellent Sondergard and Sebastian Production. 10/10
It's not just the silicone of those wires, the individual strands are also much smaller, (they are like hairs). That makes the cable more flexible but adds to the cost as well. So it's a combo of the silicone and the fine wires.
4:30 "I don't know where it goes and couldn't figure it out. Their manual is not done."
10:48 "We didn't even need to watch their really nicely done instruction videos"
^This kind of stuff is the reason you made the apology video 9:25
10:20 "Do you not wipe when you're finished?"-Linus Sebastian
A wild beardless Linus appears!
Non sexy Linus. I wonder if Yvonne preferred him with a beard lol
@@MarioGoatse pfp checksout
@Sydney_2011 he talked about it on a Wan Show episode. When he first grew the beard she was kinda comparing the pros and cons of him having and not having a beard. Now he's appeared as his younger self and she immediately wanted his beard back ahahahahah
For the normal expensive cases y’all review this is somewhat reasonable and seems worth it.
This type of fan is used in most air conditioner units, although a much larger version. Nice video, very cool idea.
Is it just me, or was the audio in this video wonky?
The audio is off.
And had an echo at times
It was
They should’ve try undervolting the cpu
The acronym is ingenious. Airflow, static pressure, sound...
I think that a v2 of this case would do it a lot of good on the price front. There are a couple custom things that could be significantly cheaper has they gone about it slightly differently. It is a beautiful case with a lot of cool ideas. Im looking forward to whats next from these guys.
idk what it was about this video, just really enjoyed how it flowed. much more easier to watch 👍
Probably the only thing of Linus' that's longer than anybody elses
LMFAO NAH
Shame they made a hate comments video yesterday, this would’ve been number 1 lol
@@Seed I was praying and hoping my other means comments made it in, they didn't unfortunately
@@Wiisporter better luck next year mate
Do you guys hear about timecode? The soundtrack of two microphones is mismatched and it couses weird sounding speech.
thought it was my headphones thank you
Linus had me at “Wow” okay Owen Wilson 😂
James May "Woooow"
Ka'chow
Used to have a fan like that in my pc when pc building was fun and cahllenging not just pick parts of the shelf and assemble it. This just make me feel old.
01:38 "But to really see who cool it is, we have to get inside" I see what you did there
Managed to catch a LInus video within a minute of it being posted 💪💪
3 MINUTE IN ITALY
13 Minutes in Lithuania
"There were a lot more puns, but they only got worse from here."
Editor is the real one
The audio in this video is awful.
I suspect that their vocals crossed over from one person to the other. It would be easy to cut out one person at a time, but take some work if they are both talking.
They were hinting about a high price for so long I was expecting something crazy. $360 seems super reasonable for something this niche
im using a Silverstone RL-FX121 since release as a front intake it works flawless
Please disable multiple audio mics, there is a chorus effect that is really off putting, just put a gate plugin at the front, adjust it's input to allow audio after a certain threshold, you might have to go back to the team and ask for specific placement of mics and lavalier's to ensure best audio quality but leaving multiple mics on is not the way to go!
I was worried I was the only one noticing this, but thanks for the amazing explanation. Hope they can fix it.
2:26 for bwoing
"Expensive" is relative for that cross flow fan. A single Corsair LL RGB 120mm fan goes for more money than that. Sure, more bling but if we're going for function over form, it's not out of this world pricing. Also, this'd push more air than a single 120mm so you'd be needing 2-3x of them, making for similar price anyway when buying cheapo fans.
Easily palatable pricing if it solves your needs.
Hope to see them in more SFF builds!
$30 isn't much for a performance fans, the best PC fans are at least that EACH
i actually had a SFF case and crammed one near my GPU, i slightly damaged the PCB, but i got it to be far cooler, and it worked
i got it to be basically full fan speed performance with idle fan speed noise level
it might not sound like much, but thats an AMAZING tradeoff
on another note, i think we need governments to add wattage restrictions for individual components, so companies get creative to get these systems to work without all of these dangerous new connectors that keep causing fires, or wattage requirements that would either overload house wiring or need rewiring to get it to work properly
the "80 series" and "80ti series" class of cards need to be the highest wattage card under such a rule, and i mean that as in the current cards in terms of wattage requirements (or lower)
the idea would be that you get things more power efficient for a myriad of reasons, but one could be that you then have a set thermal performance target, and thus another way to determine a part's lifespan capability
Love LTT but that joke at 9:30 was a bit off color
$359? That's it?
I really love the case design. I don't have the space for a big tower, but I love the compact size. I'm really really interested in this build and will be saving this video for later.
Silicone covered wire isn't more expensive to purchase but its more expensive for assembly because its so fragile it has to be handled carefully to prevent cuts in the silicone housing. unless you are placing the wire lose to a heat source its not the best option.
That is a super cool case. And I think the cost of the fan was being overstated a little considering its the only fan the case has. Sure you could buy a multipack of cheaper fans for the cost of one long boi, but you would need that whole multipack to keep a standard computer case cool. Hell even my ammo can computer has 3, though admittedly the 40mm is just there cuz I thought it was cool lol
I have that portable cross flow fan in the video which is supposed to be for laptop cooling. It doesn't quite work on gaming laptops, but after my desktop went dead and I decided to just use egpu on my work laptop, I figured out that this kind of thing is great for improving airflow on ultra slim laptops. With some thermal limit unlocking with throttlestop it makes a great choice for gaming. In fact it's even possible to use VR on such setup.
Honestly this is one of the best small factors I have ever seen. It looks extremely easy to build in and the fans seems to just work for general use or gaming. The price is totally justifiable in my opinion, if I ever going to build a small factor, this will definitely be something I would consider buying.
"I don't know where it goes and I couldn't figure it out, so I just didn't put it in." Great to see the quality of LTT videos continues to be the highest possible. And the callout to last August was the 5#it on top.
Multiple mics are nice when edited right. good video, funky editing.
I certify bio-safety cabinets. Large HEPA filtered machines that isolate lab users and hazardous materials for use in pharmaceuticals. The shape and airflow design of this thing is VERY reminiscent of those machines. The airflow graphic look almost exactly like the technical diagrams we use for training.
Knowing nothing about the person who designed this case, I'm willing to bet they have a background in the medical/pharmaceutical industry and took inspiration from such devices.
Props to their commitment to quality with their design. They didn't cut any corners or spare any cost
This product looks like another great invention from Ronco. 😃
“Wooooooow” Brilliant video. I’m going to buy this setup.
That meshless case looks amazing, cant wait till Im getting to the point of reviewing tech like this 😄
I love the dynamic between you two guys
These would be such a good choice for a flat in desk built chassis
That fan was in Coller Mester CM Stacker 810! I had it, very loud xD
I have a hard drive that has a cross flow blower fan inside. It sucks air in through vents on the front of the drive bezel, and blows it around the aluminum disk assembly unit, control boards and power supply.
It's a Fujitsu Eagle M3251 from 1984...!
These fans where common in photo copiers back in the day. the side opposite the motor is just a brass bushing in a rubber housing.
The silicone insulation on the cables isn't just to make the extra flexible, it also makes them "Heat proof", I have that on my soldering iron, and if you've ever used a soldering iron with a Silicone cable, you'll never want to go back.
Someone HAS TO recreate this case, but in a reasonable form-factor with a reasonable case.
Just imagine a regular sub-100$ case like the NZXT H5 Flow, but with 1, or 2 of these fans jammed in a corner. It could be incredible.
Every time I watch a new LTT video, I immediately think that I'm watching an old video.
I'm not gonna lie, it is expensive, but I expected it to be absolutely unreasonably high based on the way you guys were talking about it up until the end. I think it's a relatively solid price point for a limited run of a unique, high-quality enthusiast item
These vertical fans were on the Cooler Master Stacker case back in 2004. I have one. It blew air across the entire motherboard. It was cool.
13:48 you guys EXACTLY know what you were doing there lmfao
Yeah!
I've seen a lot of case reviews that were expensive, but this is the ONLY one that I've seen that has me excited! I would buy this case! I'm very picky and usually only spend $100 to maybe $150 on a case.
I love how they were kind of struggling with building this, but then said it was surprisingly easy 😂
Last time I looked Corsair RGB fans are going for AUD$50 each... this cool tubular fan looks like it should blow the competition away!
The back to back to back to back puns killed me lmao
Hi there! Free tip for measuring fan noise - capture not only decibels, but also noise spectrum. This will tell how comfortable the noise is, "whiny" or not