‘Cowards’: Dad of Slain Idaho Student Criticizes Investigators, Reveals Autopsy Information
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- One month after four University of Idaho students were murdered, the father of victim Kaylee Goncalves continues to reveal new information about the murders while criticizing investigators. The Law&Crime Network's Jesse Weber and forensic death investigator Joseph Scott Morgan break it down.
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There's no worst pain in the world than to lose a child. My heart hurts for these families.
Tooth pain is a close second.
You are correct. Any parent that has even a shred of empathy in their character would be devastated and crushed by the loss of a child. Especially in these circumstances. Then you factor in the timing, right smack in the middle of the Thanksgiving and Xmas holiday season. Tis is the season...for love...the season for compassion...the season that revolves around the very structure and importance of family and unity. Families are supposed to be close , intimate, caring , loving , understanding , and be all about a tight bond. When all of these factors are present in a family environment, a tragic event such as this will literally destroy anyone that type of bond with the victim. So you've got to ask yourself....where are all of the tears? 3 1/2 yrs ago I had to put down my dog that I literally had to bottle feed from the time she was a week old. The mom just quit feeding and taking care of her. The bond we had was was stronger than any I've ever known. I'm tearing up now just talking about it almost 4 yrs later. She was my baby. It completely shattered my world. I cried over it every day for the first few months. Nothing mattered to me anymore . I didn't care whether I lived or not. Yet here you have all of these grieving parents and family members ,making public appearances and giving statements.....and all of their tears combined , wouldn't fill a thimble
It's my worst nightmare.but still I'm from England and this crime has affected me just like the delphi murders did,I don't know any of the victims,it's just horrific crimes.
Behave!!!
I think this is the very reason the police stopped sharing information with everyone, including the families.
like the father said b4. What he knows he found out himself not from the police. Maybe you should listen before you go on making things up.
@@6530517maybe you should know what someone is referring to before you make comments attacking them. I am referring to the nonstop media speculation on any and everything even without any real information whatsoever being released.
I disagree. If something happens in your neighborhood, or your workplace, or your school it is better that everyone know as much as possible. Good citizens are an extension of law enforcement. In cases like this tragic killing that have not been solved quickly, every pair of eyes and ears helps. What doesn't help is a general witch hunt for a common car. What doesn't help is extensive delays in forensic evidence. Pressure from the victim's families keeps the focus on the investigation and protects anyone that could become a future victim. Unlikely that this killer would commit a similar attack while the entire country is being vigilant.
I completely agree!! When the families keep releasing all this information, it's only going to make it so much harder to catch the killer(s)
@@loriwolfe4566 you are correct.
My heart sincerely goes out to the parents and families of these children. What happened to them is absolutely horrific. I pray that whom ever did this to these children are found and held accountable to the highest degree.
Professional serial killers rarely get caught
@@n3wt that's horrific. Straight up evil.
Death eye for an eye evil devil God please punish and catch them swiftly father they can't hide or run from you father please God answer our prayer's and bring justice and healing to these families in Jesus Christ name Amen
@@theresawarren8814 I come into agreement in Jesus Name amen!!!
@@branO423 you agree with hesus, my buddy from mexico?
In the past, we've seen the police pressured to make an arrest and the wrong person was intentionally or unintentionally sent to prison. Investigations take time. Evidence needs to be solid at trial and 'without a doubt.'
" 'without a doubt.'"
Sorry, but that's not the standard of the US criminal justice system.
It's the job of prosecutors to prove guilt "beyond a *reasonable* doubt."
In other words, there may be *some* doubt as to someone's guilt, but is it beyond *reasonable* doubt. Unfortunately, due to unrealistic expectations borne of TV shows and movies, the American public seems to demand the "beyond *ALL* doubt" standard...which is impossible in most cases.
Losing a child is a parent's worse nightmare, but losing a child in such a horrific and senseless way makes it worse.
I feel so sorry for these parents and family members. 💔
May there be justice for them soon!!!
Soul destroying
Justice is on the way!
I just lost my son in an accident 😞 it is a parents worse nightmare
The frustration level and anger the parents feel I cannot even imagine. Their children are gone and the grief would be unimaginable. To lose a child would be one level of grief BUT the murder of a child would be a whole other level.
Plus when you don’t know who it was - unbearable pain
Right… people keep taking down about him speaking out but they may have never been in his shoes and it’s so understandable to be frustrated when you feel like they don’t have any leads or they aren’t communicating with him.. like he said.. he sent his girl to college and she shouldn’t have came back deceased.😢
@@novarosa3179 I totally understand but he could damage the case if he keeps talking. There are other parents involved what about them, they want justice. How is the father going to feel if what he speaks gets the person off ?
@@BTJ10 he stated that the other parents gave their permission to speak for them. Except Ethans parents who hadnt responded.
oh this act was bad i dont know how these people are sleeping at night someone knows who this weirdo is .
Does he not understand that it's very important to the investigation to keep a lot of details under wraps? Especially when he keeps going to the media to tell the world whatever he knows. I feel terrible for the guy, but come on dad, for your daughters sake, and all the other victims and their families, kick back!
It's really strange behaviour. This former LE guy seems to be saying in a roundabout way that Kaylee's dad is lying. It seems that way. I know he's grieving, but what does he think he is going to achieve?
That sounds like something LE would say. What bad could come out of it? The police don't have a clue what to do because they would've already done it.
It's very odd behavior. I understand his grief, but something is wrong with him. I'm not saying he's involved, but he could potentially blow the case. We don't know what's going on within the investigation, I believe the police have a very good idea who it is but need to gather enough evidence for a conviction prior to an arrest. There's something wrong with this man other than grief
Im sure theres a lot of grief and rage that is being projected in someway due to his loss
Right like imagine they get the guy arrested and then the killer isn’t found guilty in trial bc of the dad.
I feel like this entire story is frozen in time. As if we have been living the same day over and over.
Agree
Like Groundhug day 🤨
@@usualsuspectexterminator 😳😂😁
I agree. It doesn’t feel we’re any closer than we were on day one of the investigation.
Not me. I have my own. Life. I don’t live and breath based on what happens in this case day to day. Get a life
I can't imagine what this man is going through, but it's so hard to watch him make all those statements that could hurt the investigation and prosecution in the future. At this point, i wouldn’t be surprised if the police stops talking to him, because he's compromising the investigation. Like i said, that man must be going through the worst pain any person can feel right now and he's probably in survival mode, but releasing info and bashing the police isn’t gonna help
He is hurt and frustrated. Give him a break. He was powerless to protect his daughter, grief lays blame
@@varsha4469 He is giving him a break; regardless, he shouldn't have been vocal and critical like he was.
The cops should have sat him down and explained to him that releasing information could make it harder to solve the case since it decreases the chances of a suspect messing up by revealing info that only the killer would know and that they have to be diligent in their investigation, otherwise it could result in him having to watch his daughter's murderer get off on a technicality. If they had, he would likely have changed his attitude real quick and stopped sharing information to the press since he desperately wants justice.
I think he had an accomplice. That girl didn't call because she let the killer inside
@@kathynoel i feel the same. Something is up with her She is hiding something. Unusual for her to " freeze in fear and lock herself in her room" but not check in her friends or call the police. She is def hiding something and it will come out in court.
If I was one of the parents of the other young people killed, I would be very upset with this father for giving out all this questionable information.
Yea....but the guy and his wife both are having nervous breakdowns. Id say all of them are. This dude doesnt even know where he is Kat.....
Agreed. I understand he's grieving, but he is becoming even more unhinged and he could have really jeopardized the entire investigation because every little piece of new information that he received he would go to the press about it.
You aren't in those shoes,until then don't try putting them on. Grief effects everyone different. He's obviously hurt,mad,and grieving.The media needs to leave them all alone!! Everyone else needs not judge!!
@Jason Voorhees Because he was providing information that he learned from the police, coroner, and other investigators to various news stations. That's extremely inappropriate, especially in a case involving a quadruple homicide. He may have said things that the police didn't want him to divulge, or he may have misinterpreted the coroner's autopsy reports -- all of this can be used against the prosecution if this case goes to trial. Another issue is that he is swaying the public's opinion of how the case has been handled. Early on in this investigation, he was saying that the police weren't doing their job and the police were taking too long to find a suspect. Steve saying those things caused many people to question the Idaho police and their capabilities to properly handle this case. The court of public opinion can make or break a case sometimes and in a situation like this, it's better to remain quiet and let the evidence speak for itself.
This dad is his own worst enemy. He’s not helping anyone.
Easy to say when it is not your child. Shame on you.
@@kbr6783 He’s not in the right state of mind. We understand why he’s doing that but he can’t just go to media telling them every little detail he gets.
@@SlickArmor obviously it’s true. This guy in the video is playing with semantics. The dad has a right to speak out and it does not seem to be hurting the case, the pd has three hands in their pockets and don’t know what do with this tragedy
Their*
No but he's probably not hurting anyone either. I highly doubt what he said will help or hurt the investigation. At least the police know not to share any potential sensitive information with him now.
Inevitably, the killer’s defense attorney is going to use all this “loose lips” information to throw confusion into the case.
Nonsense
@@nowirehangers2815 no, it’s just straight facts, and those objective facts don’t care about your personal opinion
@@nowirehangers2815 It is not nonsense.
And his blathering things to the media will taint the jury pool. It will be hard to find an impartial jury.
Like it or not..thats their job..to raise reasonable doubt..and to confuse the jury..you YTE MFERS WROTE THE CONSTITUTION..WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS..AND A DEFENSE ATTORNEY'S JOB IS TO GET THEIR CLIENT EXONERATED..INNOCENT OR GUILT IS NOT THEIR CONCERN..THE PROSECUTION HAS THE BURDEN TO PROVE GUILT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT..YOUR MAD..OH WELL
I can’t imagine the grief these parents are feeling but I wish Kaylees dad would stop and understand that when they tell him things he shouldn’t tell the world. They keep information back for a reason…look how the bullet came into play in the Delphi murders. Imagine is the suspect knew about the bullet for five years and simply reported his firearm stolen…they wouldn’t be able to link him to the case.
R u also above swearing?
Good point, but still it is hard to understand why they wait 5 years to do the link between the bullet and the gun's owner. Eventually we will know more details and find the right answer.
@@audreydaleski1067 what kind of a question is that?
@@audreydaleski1067 What in the world does that have to do with what OP is even saying?
The police didn't even collect all the evidence. Internet sleuths pointed out a glove that had been there for 4 weeks. The father has every right to say and do what he is doing. The police haven't worked a single murder in over 7yrs. This was a quadruple murder. And yes, the father can say it.
The coroner sounded unprofessional and unsure of herself
As an RN who listens to Doctors explain medical information to patients in language I find clear & concise, who later hears those patients mistell that info to their families...I feel like I understand exactly what happened here. The dad just didn't understand medical terminology. Dad didn't mean to get it wrong, but he did. We just need to coroner's report, when the police decide it's safe to release it.
EXACTLY. Dad is using his own understandable words.... And therefore it misleads everyone within hearing range😑
Very excellent explanation. The poor Dad is stressed and probably very sleep deprived. He might think he is thinking and remembering completely clearly but even though I'm very knowledgeable about medicine I can't remember what doctors have told me about circumstances when loved ones are involved and I'm staying in the hospital with them.
He's also is a bit too disrespectful to the other families. He's forgetting that Ethan is a male, he saying other females are in danger because of the cowards working on this case. LE is trying to solve this not muddy it up with guesses.
I agree. In stressful moments like this I'm sure it's hard to remember everything he's been told. Then there's the telephone game phenomena, people can hear one thing then turn around and say something totally different when retelling.
Spot on. Patients consistently get their own information wrong. Often it is because the material is too scientific for them to grasp. Other times, it is because of simple misunderstanding of language, and I'm not referring to a foreign speaker where a "language barrier" exists. I am referring to even cases where both Physician and patient are native English speakers. Often, patients or even family members who are present at the meeting, will pick up a term or a word, and they won't completely understand the significance (or Insignificance) of that term when the Doctor is speaking. Later, they recall that term or phrase and apply their own assumed meaning to it. Wallah! You now have individuals who will carry a false understanding forward with them and report an inaccurate condition or illness when asked.
The father needs to back down. If the coroner informed him of gory details I as a father would never disclose it to the public. It is too sensitive to disclose. He is embarrassing himself as a blow hard and selfish person.
Don't be a jackass, embarrassing himself, selfish person? Phuck off, he lost his daughter in the most horrific manner.
Yes it will effect the investigation and it gives the killer information for him to know how to act in order to not get caught, he just makes it easier for him to get away
@@JW52654 Americans are such self riteous, grandstanding axxholes with no respect for protocol. What makes the death of his daughter more important than the death of the three others? I dont think it is wrong to pressure the police. I have a daughter and I would never hold a press conference/interview to discuss such gory details in an ongoing investigation out of respect to my daughter and the investigators. You're a lunatic.
🤔 was he the dad who changed the locks? Big guy...scary! 🤔
@@susanblackstone307 I am curious as I only heard the lock was changed. Can you explain your comment in more detail as it relates to this thread?
How could the girls on first floor not hear their roommates being murdered? The murderer was killing two girls at the same time. They had to be screaming, that just makes common sense. I’m convinced the survivors were involved.
This feels weird hearing about someone’s child like this. This has got to be so freaking painful for the parents
Yes, it is kinda weird. But, the public funded police activity is the public's right to know. This one just got weird with the media making it a big story. This guy badmouthing the dad is strange
@@misterdinkly You're looking for a reason to be upset. Be upset that you're looking for something to be upset about rather than making someone else your target. =/
Police are funded by tax dollars. MOST of those dollars are paid by the public. The public in Idaho =/= you.
@@misterdinkly Of course this is horrendous for the parents but these folks have been in the media since the beginning, saying the police should not be looking at the ex boyfriend. Probably he is innocent but as a person close to the victim, they HAD to look at him. I’m pretty sure the cops have a good idea. These folks are muddying the waters to a successful prosecution
I tip my fedora to you, sir. That's a whole lot of supposing you are doing there😅. Tell me..do you jump to conclusions for a living or is it just a fun little hobby?
@@misterdinkly "But, the public funded police activity is the public's right to know."
Go back to Alex Jones.
You only have the rights that are afforded to you. Just because you "feel" special does not mean you are.
You have no rights to any info while this is going on and or later.
None.
glad to see people are having some understanding for the extreme pressures the investigators are under, there are almost 50 FBI agents for gods sake, they definitely are not slacking off with numbers like that
Hopefully they aren’t the same 50 that were involved in the Russia collusion case
I was given all the information from a coroner regarding my sons murder. Later on that week, I was briefed by the Sherrif and Detectives. I was given toxicology, 2 weapons were named and how soon my son took to die, which was instantly. Still a cold case and I still know as much as LE / Coroner could release to me. It's not an ego game, it's grief process. This "dude" slamming the parent... idk. Let's hope it all comes out soon and the dad can be vindicated. Jeeeeze.
Im sorry. Whats your sons name
Susan Cooper I’m so sorry for your devastating loss, I cannot begin to imagine how you’re feeling. I pray for resolution for u and your loved ones. May your son be held eternally by Angels and that one day, like all parents who’ve had their children brutally taken u can have justice and find some kind of peace. Wishing u and your family all the very best and hope u have all the support and love u need always 🙏🏻💜
Thanks for sharing your story. 😃 🙏
@@karencancerianpriestess712 beautifully said. My condolences also. I can't imagine the pain of losing a child. 💜
I’m so sorry for your loss. How awful ti have to share that in this context. I agree, this “expert” is terrible.
My heart goes out to these poor parents!
I feel your pain, I lost a child. You need to let them do their job, these things take time. They need to get it right.
Everyone grieves differently and no offense this ain't about you or your lost Its someone else
@linamaria2336 My point was that these things take time, and they have to get it right. They need to get this person or persons, and it takes many hours of investigation. I never said it was about me, I know what they are going through, and it's loss not lost. No offense taken.
someone came to these parents and said your child is dead, they havent even began to process this I am heartbroken for these families
How do you know whether anyone is processing the murder of their child? What does 'process' mean in this context?
@@updownstate Are you looking for an argument? Eww!
@@updownstate Grief from a sudden and deep loss takes months and years to work through. I would imagine it becomes what is termed as "complicated grief" when the loss is from a murder. So many emotions runs through the survivors of those who were close to the victim... shock, denial, sadness, guilt they couldn't stop it, depression, loneliness, anger....
@@jenniferhoefsmit This is a conversation. I'm asking for information.
@@updownstate when my first son died in my arms I had to look down at him and try to process what I was seeing and then I passed out after that I went home and sitting in the dark i was in shock and despair and I couldnt process that my son was dead and process means you go over and over the nightmare over and over and then years later I lost my other son and he process stared over again a series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end. I never stopped processing to this day
I cannot support these actions, even from a grieving parent. Divulging information like this might alert the killer to the clues he is leaving behind.
Mr. Goncalves doesn't know what he is saying. He isn't a professional, he's a father in pain. Personally, whatever he says I take with a grain of salt. He's angry and he is taking his anger out on people who are trying to solve these murders. My heart goes out to him and to all of the families of these beautiful students.
I can’t imagine listening to strangers on the news talking about fatal wounds that were inflicted on my own child 😢
He is talking about his daughter being hurt worse. Not them. 😕
Do you realize how Mr goncalves is speaking about his daughters wounds? Have you listened to him?
Ya I agree. Very strange of him saying what he said.
The father is the one that is releasing the info.🤷♀️
@@dianeessex3548 why if it’s true?
Have you been in his situation?
I have
He has EVERY right to speak on what happened
These police have still got nothing!
The dad, mother and sister have talked too much and are putting things out as facts that may not be. They are not helping the investigation and in fact helping the killer and a defense attorney if it ever goes to trial.
Someone needs to tell the dad the more he talks the less likely the killer can be found. His arrogance will be his downfall. He’s also opening himself up to lawsuits from the other victim’s families if killer gets away with it because he’s throwing the investigation off.
FOX NEWS MADE THIS ARTICLE UP!!! Look into !!!! The author of the article is getting lit up on Twitter,…. Family has said that they didn’t say any of this to them on record and that they’re house is tapped
Yup
💯
LOL BS The Moscow PD is incompetent in regards to this case. He is correct in making his voice heard.
Exactly!! 100%.
The fact that her dad said that her injuries are worse and he needs to know what’s going on cause I paid for the funeral was really weird to say that in my opinion.. the dad is hurting and has high emotions I’m sure and wants answers. God bless the victims and their families.
It is weird. It's crass. He thinks money gives him the right to every detail and blab it to the public.
He doesn’t know the extent of the injuries on the other kids.
A weirdo satanic actor. What's his alibi? It's a Masonic ritual
I agree. For the Dad to say he paid for a funeral that's unreal. I also have a problem with the coroner if they said this stuff to him about his daughter. If the coroner did indeed say these things to the man about his daughter's injuries, maybe that coroner should be relieved of their duties. Because that coroner sounds very unprofessional and downright cruel to me. And if it's not true, then why hasn't the coroner refuted it?
@@maryjohnson1890 that’s a man throwing his perceived weight around…trying to make himself look bigger than he actually is
Exactly.... As hard and sad as it all is....parents need to not say or tell publicly details that could give away a heads up to the killer that they are catching on to them.
The father needs to wait until all the facts are in before, he makes a statement. It's disrespectful to the other families. It's not a game, who got stabbed worse. It is horrific to all four, regardless. It is d I'm sorry for the families that are going through this.
How is it disrespecting the other families when he's just speaking on his own daughters specifics?
Yep i agree, there are other families involved.
@@somehaloguy9372 he is compromising the case. THAT has an impact on all of the families.
Bit late for that
100% perfectly stated.
I think Kaylees dad is falling apart . He is in immense grief . He actually might need a medical intervention . He is actually hurting the case instead of helping it . I don’t think he’s doing it on purpose . His grief is clouding his judgement. I can’t even imagine the level of torture for the parents to know your child was in the presence of unspeakable evil and they knew it as they drew their last breaths . That is enough to throw anyone off . I have compassion for him . He just wants justice for his baby girl 😢. Rip kaylee , Maddie , Ethan and Xana .
Amen
Spot on!
I think part of it that they’re probably not sleeping much after what happened. Who WOULD be able to sleep at night after this happened randomly to your daughter while she herself slept? It’s hard to even grieve properly when you don’t have answers to help you accept what happened.
I understand him..and the anger with the sleepy town cops is beyond frustrating
@@Romans1.24-27 the FBI is also involved.
Prayers go out to these families. This is the way this poor father is coping with the devastating loss of his daughter.
They father is interfering with the case. It’s not just about his daughter. There are 3 other families involved. When he calls the police cowards publicly, is not good. He could do real damage for when this goes to court.
And it is Not helpful 😢
Get into some kind of support system or he will drive himself insane 😢
He probably does need some very targeted help quickly. How horrendously sad for all the families. R.I.P. to these four students.
There is a reason that the investigators need to keep some things confidential, one important reason is not to tip off the perpetrator and potentially spoke them into running, etc. the other is to protect the investigation and evidence in the event that their is a trial. Someone needs to speak to the family and tell them that they are doing their daughter no favours.
I do think the dad is going through a brutal grieving process & it’s tough to see him go this route. I think he’s inferred a lot of details as proven fact. He’s only making this investigation worse.
Really????.
@@yvonneerrend8217 Yes, really.
When you’re grieving, you’re looking for a distraction to avoid feeling those very painful feelings. This man has clearly thrown himself into this and has allowed it to consume him. And his grief ain’t helping his cognitive/memory functions. My mom doesn’t even remember my brother’s memorial service.
I’m sure it is hard to truly believe for the father that law enforcement is doing absolutely everything they can to find his daughters killer when multiple officers of the city have posted tik Tom dance videos in uniform since the slayings.. whether they are part of the investigation or not I’m sure that doesn’t help him grieve….
@@j.z.j.1559 They are keeping this case alive. It will soon be a cold case. If that happens the case won't likely be solved.
The police are not going to announce to the world what they may or may not be looking into. Must be very hard for the parents.
I can't even imagine the pain that these poor families are feeling I'm so sorry to the families RIP to the loved ones that past
These parents should get together and talk-to each other for support and comfort.
Forget the genesis of this father's statements...what is his point giving this information to the public via the press....how does this information help solve the crime?
Dad just doesn't get that loose lips sink ships. His constant media rounds and criticisms are not going to advance the investigation... he really comes across as super controlling, hiring an attorney to basically include him in the investigation. It's like he wants to run the investigation.....not clear what he is hoping to accomplish by this. Jodie Arias, small petite female, did a number on Travis Alexander too. Nice to hear level headed Joseph Scott Morgan comment on it.
This isn’t a war. This is a hunt for a killer. Secrecy will not help that.
curious that he wants to be in the middle of the investigation. I think I heard somewhere that a killer would want to be in the middle if an investigation. Does this father have an alibi? Where was he at the time of the murder? I mean he's putting himself out there so we can speculate.
@@deborah3912 I find it weird that although he's grieving he has no problem at all being in front of a camera on TV for all the world to see him. Don't people when grieving they want to grieve in peace and not talk to people?? 🤔😳
@@skybluedreams77 you're right, something's up with this guy
@@deborah3912 I thought exactly the same thing, he's acting weird. when he stood on the stage and chewed gum , while the mother is crying as she speaks. did he have problems with his daughter?
The dad is such a strange character to me. Why does he get off so much with the media attention and he spilling out all this info which they’ve been purposely withholding. It looks really bad on his part and I get he’s grieving but this is not the correct way and could hinder his own child’s death investigation.
And if they ever catch this person, prosecuting him as well.
No other parents have talked at all, right?
He is becoming suspicious to me. I bet the police have asked him not to discuss the case with the media.
@@wilE6764 parents have spoken out but haven’t been leaking information like him
@Bspoor7482 where is it the parents been talking ?
This Dad needs to STOP speaking about the case publicly to news media ASAP
The dad can do what he wants. The Moscow PS is incompetent!
@@annaroberts3160 = Cretin.
I just don't understand why the father wants to publicly announce things like this and how it can actually help solving the case! Especially details that lean to the gruesome side and/or may be best kept quiet for investigation reasons.
Probably because he is an attention-seeking narcissist. A parent or family member of a murder victim is not exempt from being a loudmouth irresponsible hothead who spouts misinformation without understanding or context. All of these families are in pain; he is no more special than those who are focused on their grieving (rather than babbling to media to make himself feel better for 5 minutes).
@@zyrosqrd2552 true. Definitely not exempt. It's either that or he had a breakdown from losing his daughter this way
And honestly if Kohberger was found not guilty ... who in Idaho is paying for the inevitable lawsuit that would be coming . This whole thing is a mess ..
“Doth protest too much.” Something about his protests makes me suspicious.
And what would their agenda be Einstein?😂
This story breaks my heart, and it’s just one in a mountain of stories.
'... _breaks_ ...'
@@tommyriam8320 Thanks homie.
Kaylee's dad had no business telling the public that Xana fought so hard with the killer. She has parents and he should be more compassionate
I totally agree with you.
@@alexf3251because it’s not his place to make statements about her, he’s not her parent. It’s rather disrespectful.
Xana’s dad said she fought back!
@@river8760 that was her dad that said that not Kaylee's father.
@@jlorde8838 that certainly could be, I honestly have no idea, but I was just explaining to that commenter why that wouldn’t be appropriate if a person who isn’t her parent disclosed that info.
I think it's time for the Dad to keep it quiet,, he may become a hindrance, not a help, with the constant butting in and dispensing of information to the public and at one point he seemed to be politicizing it bringing up 'Defund the police' as a reason why this happened,.now insulting the police', time to get a handle on it and let the police do their job. I know what I'm talking about, my son was a murder victim.
The parents need to shut up. They are going to screw up the whole investigation and then be mad at the cops. They need to stop leaking information.
U need to shut up actually
@@cindyfinlayson4197 Hahahahahaha thanks for your useless opinion. 🙄
I thought the same thing when the Dad said “My daughter had more wounds than anyone else” Who says that? That’s very disrespectful to other victims and their families. I hope he is just grieving differently but a lot of statements he has made are things obviously he wasn’t told.
I don't think he said that
I don’t think anyone can really judge the actions and motivations of this father. He is trying to keep everything together through incredible grief, anger, stress, lack of sleep. A long difficult and painful road ahead for the families. Their lives have changed forever
Exactly! People can be so cruel, they have no self awareness
And the so called coroner is incompetent and untrained.
@@Nikalette100 Lol. Coroner is without a doubt more competent and better trained than the dad, his attorney, 99.9999999% of YT commenters, et al.
@@mypletunia3281 he is a criminal clown.
@jj.....when the actions/motivations/comments of the father stand to be counterproductive then they can be judged. Outcome remains to be seen, but he isn't helping any more than some passenger on an airliner jumping up and running into the cockpit barking into the pilots' ears or grabbing the controls just because s/he thinks things aren't being handled correctly. I realize that "feelings" presently reign supreme over all in our current culture, but that doesn't make it right.
He never said he got the info about his daughter having more severe wounds from the coroner. He implied that info specific to his daughter came from the funeral home whereby he mentioned he paid for it! He paid for the funeral or burial or for his daughters body to be prepared for when they have the funeral. I think if he had info about the others it came from the parents of those individuals.
Both Kailey and Maddie were cremated.
I understand the grief from these parents, but this father is getting out of hand. He is in the news every single day…. I mean… this is STRANGE. None of the other parents are doing this… THIS IS WEIRD. However, understanding that his own brother is a murderer in prison, I’m sure there are behaviors in his family that are “strange” to a normal person. He’s obviously very angry, but this has GOT to stop.
Y’all don’t know how those other people feel. Many times people will allow someone else to take the heat because they have a dominant personality while they are soaking in the information . They may not be able to be as vocal or are grieving differently and working to gain peace about it all while waiting patiently. We don’t know these people it’s not fair to judge the father for his frustrations
To me it sounds like he is still in shock and he is acting on a survival-mode to keep himself busy not to go insane. He can't stop himself,if he stops he'll colaps.
Any apologies???? Shame on you.
Dad...loose lips sink ships....you are sinking your own ship.
You guys we have to remember a coroner is NOT a doctor, pathologist, nor a medical examiner. They do not perform autopsies on the body. It’s an outdated position. Medical examiners and certified MDs are the ones who investigate crime victims body and then they will send a report if there is a coroner.
So is there is only a coroner, no MD, there is no autopsy. Am I correct? How can murders be solved without an autopsy?
then who did the autopsy?
The coroner was a nurse.
@@loesjevervloet3769 the coroner is a former practicing nurse who is now an attorney. She did not perform the autopsies-only a board certified medical doctor can do that. The autopsies performed by the Spokane Medical Examiner
@@lilyredhead1398 the autopsies performed by the Spokane medical examiners office
Honestly, he is being disrespectful to the other families. He is making it all about his daughter. They were all killed in a horrific manner. Even if one had more stab wounds, they all died! When he first started doing interviews, I understood him, but now, it's too much. He is making it harder on the investigation!
Edit: Steve's daughter has come out and debunked what Fox news has said. He never claimed that the coroner told him any of this, nor did he say that his daughter was torn or make reference of any kind of area of the body. He also said that anything he has to say will be done by his lawyer. He is upset because he doesn't want to add more salt to the wounds of the other families. He is going to try and have all these pages pulled down.
Ask yourself do you really understand K’s father? I don’t understand his heart, I can relate loosing his daughter only, for I buried my 22yr old daughter of natural causes, not being slaughtered
For him it IS all about his daughter.
@@nowirehangers2815 And he's jeopardizing the entire case in his desire to tell all to the media. The next family to experience this can blame that man for keeping the killers free.
@@nowirehangers2815 No, it's all about him. "I PAID FOR THIS". "I sent my daughter to college and she came home in a box". It's selfish.
It's sadly true that as family of victims,....it is unbelievably hard to wait and be patient as the case is unfolding and being handled so as to not give away info that shouldn't be, to not be damaging to their case. It is most important to catch the killer and do justice than to keep dealing with informing the public and family. It's hard, sad but true.
The reporters should stop indulging the “killer” but putting out such information.
I can't understand the hurt and anger these families feel. I won't say what they should or shouldn't do because everyone grieves loss differently. I will say some things are kept from the public on purpose bc they are things only the killer will know. I pray for ALL of the family and friends of these young, beautiful people 🙏
Well lucky they weren't old and ugly.
Exactly. Info and details need to be kept hush because they need to catch a killer. Justice isn't always swift...and takes time to do things spot on with no mistakes.
It's really hard to believe only one person committed these horrific killings
Look up Ted Bundy. The Gainesville Ripper. Zodiac Killer. It's not a stretch, really.
There are monsters out there…..
This case really makes me think it was someone who knew them who had a vendetta against one or all of them. Had acces to their social media, knew them well enough to get an idea of their movements. A loner kid who hated them. Got upset / angry for something they may have said or done. An individual like Nicholas Cruz ( an outcast - emotional/ anger issues) except instead chose to enter their home and viciously slay them all as an act of revenge??
Definitely was personal. Makes me wonder if it were against one of the parents of the victims.
@@Audrina444 people are saying they were bullies including Kaylee
@@jlorde8838 oh wow, i didn’t know that but I was beginning to get the feeling that was the case.
What are you doing in the comments section? Should be out there working as a detective !
@@miev2137 😂
Sadly, the father is justifying the practice for police to not share evidence with family members.
It's possible the father was so distraught and distressed by what he heard about his daughter that he was communicating his _emotional reaction_ to what he heard - not what was actually said. Example: "the cut was deep and sliced through multiple organs" vs. "the knife ripped and tore through her body, tearing through multiple organs."
This is why you need jurors who only listen to what is presented in the court and do not get confused trying to correlate evidence in the court with ambiguous, unverified statements made by a family member.
They are giving away every detail! I know they think they are doing what’s best, but they are ruining the chance of their daughter/other victims receiving a fair trial by giving away so much information. This is so sad.
YES!!!!! 100% PERFECTLY stated. They should not tell and keep it 🤫. This is 4 families who's case will be ruined, and it's not fair to the other families.
He needs to stop in my opinion. And I'm starting to wonder if he actually cares because it seems like all he cares is being on the media . And it's very unfortunate because if this stuff is true he is releasing information that they need to use against the killer and the killer won't get caught .
Yep, I see he's going to be all the time wanting TV coverage and wanting to be the centre of attention. Probably feels like the spoke person for the group of parents. We had a similar case in the 90's in Valencia, Spain. Three teenage girls were sadistic and horrifically murdered. The father of one of the girls was almost every day on TV being interviewed or in programs etc. He got addicted to the attention.
Bingo
Great point Tammy. I also get the impression that he doesn't care about justice for his daughter and just wants to be famous for being on TV. This is the opportunity he's always been waiting for right? Being famous for crying on TV about his murdered daughter. Get a clue.
All of this. I cannot imagine being so public and open (yet while also speaking about odd details that he shouldn’t have insight about) if this was my child. I would be beside myself. Being so active in the media THIS soon after such a horrific tragedy is concerning. Perhaps it’s just the way he’s choosing to grieve, but it could be deeper than that. He’s either subconsciously throwing the investigation off or he’s deliberately distracting.
The he dad seems like a narcissist that loves the attention 💀💀💀
This man being interviewed irritates me. A grieving parent was given information and he relayed it. Seems like he has a chip on his shoulder.
He was grossly insensitive and oblivious. A corner is going to explain the deep stab wounds, to a grieving father in layman's terms. It's not like the father's writing a term paper. So for him to not realize that speaks to his inability to grasp a situation.
Kayleigh’s parents and sister need to be like the other parents and let the Police do their job, you are not the only parents who lost their child ..
ABSOLUTELY
Agreed they are entirely selfish as if their daughter was the only casualty. Everyone is hurting as well
He owes them an apology
"Good to see you brother. How you doing?"
"Moving on, I wanted to ask you..."
Shouldn’t have let dad see her slashed body. Made him crazy. Never get over it
Excellent point. But telling this guy "No" probably wouldn't work...
So sad
Sounds like the killer used a sword.
@@ianwalton284 or machete
Vertebreaker bubble but every murder victim or even car accident gets identified by their closest relative ALL
Mr. Morgan was very informative and clear with his explanations. Thank you for hosting this articulate guest!
This has to be so frustrating for the parents. They have no suspects and the police seem to be saying things then retracting and then clearing people as fast as they speak to them. I believe Kaylee’s dad is trying to find out what happened because he has no trust in the ones who are in control. Also remember Maddie was basically a daughter to him as well.
We don't know they have no suspects. They could very well have a good idea who did this. They will wait to arrest until they have worked the case to the point that they will get a guilty conviction. They only get one chance. They have T's to cross and I's to dot--a lot of them. Of course they're not going to release all they know. Why warn the person they're closing in on him or her? I guess folks want this solved like CSI hour-long drama crimes are solved--in an hour.
Look at the recent Pike County Massacre in Ohio... 8 family members, over 3 residences, killed in one night. It took TWO years to solve and make arrests..... things take time, lab tests take time, sometimes months.... interviews take time, reviews take time..., and clearing people publicly doesn't mean they can't revisit it later; what it does do is preserve public citizens from harassment, doxing, hate mail, and threats because of "public speculation".
Maybe you should try to crack the case then. It’s not like police have a crystal ball.
thats just how this works, investigators are probably getting ALOT of different information and they have to sift through every piece to figure out what could be a lead, what couldnt be a lead, what is relevant or not, etc. especially for a high profile case like this. There WILL be constant changes each day in their perspective of the case
I believe him for sure, it was definitely a man that did this.
The TRUTH is never disrespectful.
The families of the other three victims behaved with class, dignity, patience, understanding.
This other family made multiple Nnounce-
ments, name calling, threats...and actually created problems that shouldn't have existed
Such a senseless act. Cowardly act. RIP to the victims. Not just these precious kids, but to anyone who has lost someone to senseless acts of violence.
It is hard to fathom someone SO evil & hateful walking among us. My own kids are the same ages of the victims, & I cannot imagine something this horrific happening.
Definitely some demonically possessed people out here
Calling LE cowards won't help solve this crime. He is clearly upset and frustrated (as the other parents must be too). But you don't see the other parents giving such interviews to the media. Not a good move and not a good look at all.
The dad really needs to watch what he is saying. He needs to stop talking and get a lawyer do the talking for him. It's disrepectable to the other victims and his daughter.
When did freedom of speech die ?
This was from a month ago, chief.
Why is this father talking to media at this stage is a huge mistake. This could hurt the jury pool and even hurt the case.
He was frustrated that the police were saying they hadn't identified a suspect. The evidence is overwhelming, no way this freak Kohberger walks.
Not to be gross, but when I hear “tearing” associated with knife wounds, I imagine the knife being twisted or being moved around while in the body. Steve goncalves has no reason to lie about these details. They consider Maddie their daughter, so it’s not disrespectful for him to compare kaylee’s wounds to Maddie’s. Maddie’s family gave him permission to speak on their behalf anyway. I don’t think he’s trying to say kaylee suffered more, I think he’s stating the info that the police and coroner gave him. No offense to your guest, but I think he’s being very disrespectful towards Steve Goncalves.
I was thinking the same thing. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families, but it is definitely disrespectful how he is concentrated on how worse his daughters injuries are compared to the other's. Sir, 4 died, not just one...
The father is overwhelmed with grief. I hope they both have help through their tragedy.
I understand the dad's grief but I hope the investigators don't allow it to hinder their hard work on this case. I think they're handling it well. It's actually really good that they are not focused on just one possible scenario because that's how tunnel vision happens. Keeping an open mind as they go through the evidence is what will lead to the right person.
It will be really tragic if this Father is unknowingly revealing details that might let the killer(if ever ID'd and caught)walk free.
One thing to keep in mind....Maddy was tiny..probably a size 2. And while Kaylee was also trim, she was probably a few sizes bigger. As aweful as it is, I'm sure Maddy's body was a lot more 'fragile' to an attack like this.
Kaylee seems to be a size 8 or 10..and she had breast implants, that may alter how her stab wounds appeared to someone without implants
I feel so bad for the parents, but let the investigation play out. He's talking too much, he needs to be quiet.
I agree. This family is compromising the investigation with all these interviews.
Mr. Goncalves (Kaylee's dad) has seemed wound up pretty tight whenever he has made statements on television. I just hope he holds it completely together once they bring this monster to justice - and they will. I would honestly hate to see him do something horrible to the perp once this creep is in custody and Mr. Goncalves ends up in prison for the rest of his life. My heart breaks for these families/friends.
I worry about that for his sake too
He's in "Prison" now, already.......Sadly.....
@@1SALADLOVER what
@@el34glo59 what
'Cowards': Dad of one of the victims. Meanwhile, investigators: silently working hard on just getting one solid evidence to be able to arrest the cr*minal.
Less than 2 months later,
Dad: uhm........... 🤐
You should learn a lot from this mr., i hope you recover your words against them and on your next interview, hopefully you apologise to them by calling them 'cowards' and thank them for still continuing the investigation, despite your low type of thinking by accussing them of something you know nothing about! , when in fact, they're even bravier than You are. You must admit your fault, and prove you're indeed not the coward here.
Best interview I have seen on this case. The misinformation has been awful and dangerous.
The dad needs to be still and grieve. The law enforcement are doing their best I'm sure. Good grief considering how bizarre the whole thing was. From the 2 on first floor not hearing a thing, a dog that doesnt bark, to calling friend before 911 with an unconscious body lying there, to paramedics coming then police. Good grief.
This case is getting a lot of attention. Not all families get this kind of help from the police and they don't get justice for their loved ones.. It's shocking to me this father seems so ungrateful and expects this case to be solved now when police still need to get the facts before prosecuting anyone.
He's a blowhard bully and his character as one existed before this crime.
Good point.
LE is not managing Kaylee's Dad properly. Any therapist could tell them that his deep psychic wound is his failure to protect his daughter. So they need to bring him into the case in a way that he feels he is helping them and because of that, it's critical he remain quiet.
the father needs to manage himself. he’s out of control at times
@@mjesns77 Wouldn't you be?
The police can't "manage" him. That's not their bloody job. He needs to manage himself or get counseling. Good Lord...
@@catherinelw9365 People would disagree. It IS the job of LE to maintain good working relations with victims' families for many substantive reasons.
Someone needs to tell those parents to “Stop”! They could jeopardize the entire case. I get they lost
Their daughter but they are not helping in any way. They need
To chill. Let the authorities handle
the case. This brings to mind the trial of the 17 students gunned down in a school in 2018. Those parents were exemplary. They kept quiet until their time to speak. They were
Told “ no interviews, no speaking to
media AT ALL”!
Prayers to everyone involved, the victims, parents, family and also the teams working on the crime. It must be horrific.
The guy interviewed here is so right. I feel bad for the Dad but he's putting out information that could be damaging and false and he's as if he's done analysis on all of the bodies when he has not!
I feel like the dad and sister watch too many crime shows and make comments like if they're homicide detectives. The father made a comment that they could just DNA test everyone in the area and possibly trace relatives of the killer. Like that takes time. They have these expectations of how things are solved on TV and it's sad they're going to ruin this in the long run I feel like.
It's gonna take everyone's breath away when LE arrests Kaylee's father.
And why do you suspect him?
Liz, He's telegraphing it with his statements and body language, his motive was jealousy and unrequited love from his daughter and self righteousness. He had been planning this in detail for a long time. Made was included in the plans, other two were collateral damage for waking up and investigating. He desperately wants to either be caught red handed or it be determined he's permanently innocent so he can go on with his life. Being a control freak, can't stand the uncertainty of the investigation he's not in control of and will continue to publicly blow his cover. It's also possible he shoots himself to relieve his frantic hatred of being powerless. This way he feels he wins in going out in the public's mind as an amazing doting dad who loved his daughter soo much but just couldn't handle the grief. All a lie.
@@silentIypraying because internet.
The dad at 6:49 is chewing gum so casually while the wife is crying, seems kinda odd. He doesn’t seem distraught.
I was thinking the same
The complete incompetence of the coroner is because she is a ?LAWYER AND A NURSE. ?????!!!!!! Most autopsies are conducted by a MEDICAL DOCTOR WITH SPECIAL EDUCATION IN FORENSIC PATHOLOGY, board certified.I WAS AN ADVANCE PRACTICE NURSE WITH an MS in physiological nursing, and I would never attempt to conduct an autopsy on anyone, much less a quadruple homicide! Why is no one questioning the lack of qualifications of the medical examiner? Her name is Cathy Mabbutt. An RN and lawyer. Please. The families need to insist on private autopsies by a highly qualified forensic pathologist. I heard that sadly one victim has been cremated, but as long as the others were buried, they can be exhumed. Journalists, please get on this. I smell corruption in this town.
I appreciate this format. This person is not rushing LEO, not presumptuous, pompous or disrespectful to anyone.
Heartbreaking
I think it’s safe to assume that a man did this crime.
could be a trans woman.
Why do you blame a man.
@@michaelpower4372 based on historically similar crimes, stats, and the gender differences in behaviour. It could have been a woman. It could have been a 13 year old - but unlikely. Could be though. Or someone with one arm. Or missing a foot. Doubt it though. Could be a neighbour. Or a Chinese tourist.
I've always suspected it is a lesbian. Those two blondes are pictured in a manner that suggests that they are more than friends.
@@michaelpower4372 Statistics.