Pioneer XDJ XZ vs Denon Prime 4 - Which one is right for you?

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  • When Pioneer DJ recently released their latest all in one unit the XDJ XZ everyone wanted to know how it stacked up against the Denon DJ Prime 4. However these two units have been deisgned with a different end goal in mind. Holland is here to break down the differences to help you make a better purchasing decision. Let us know in the comments which one you would prefer to own!
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  • @steveoneil7028
    @steveoneil7028 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It's worth nothing that Denon regularly release new software updates that add new features and Pioneer don't really release much more than bug fixes for theirs.
    So a Prime 4 which was bought 4 years ago and kept up with the free software updates will be far more advanced than one shown in this video while an XDJ XZ bought 4 years ago will still be basically the same 4 year old unit.
    The amount of features added to Denon gear in the past couple of years alone is just mindblowing. Built-in soundswitch capability, built in sampler, built-in touch effects and so on. Stems support currently in Beta and on the way.

  • @djdangelohendricks4399
    @djdangelohendricks4399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The Prime 4 is insane. I'm so glad that I have invested in a unit. I'm super happy with it.🔥

    • @alvinleach5506
      @alvinleach5506 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My arriving Dec 6

    • @ItsMrEverything
      @ItsMrEverything 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thoughts on yo Prime 4 now?

    • @djdangelohendricks4399
      @djdangelohendricks4399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I could not be more happier right now. It's a superb unit for serious DJ's

    • @toadscrote123321
      @toadscrote123321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Had mine for a few weeks now and I'm very happy with it. To be honest I was looking for an XZ but I'm now glad none were available. Now that Denon have made numerous software updates the Prime thing is great compared to 2 years ago. The introduction of jog sensitivity was a big one for me as my friends SC5000's I hated when they first came out at version 1, literally couldn't mix on em. Spent the last 2 years telling him he'd bought Betamax decks haha, now I've joined him. Put a 500gb ssd in it too so no usb messing about for me from now on.

    • @ItsMrEverything
      @ItsMrEverything 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DJ D'Angelo Hendricks do u have a InstaGram? I’d like to share tips...got my P4 yesterday! @ItsMrEverything on the Gram

  • @djnato10
    @djnato10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would love to see an updated comparison between the newer Prime 4+ and the same XZ. I know which one looks better on paper, but having this breakdown verbally is super helpful.

  • @dinahaiakozia4145
    @dinahaiakozia4145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Denon lost in the joggs fight , but wins in all the rest , all the rest .
    And if you really want to scratch , buy then some real turntables , not a controller.

    • @isaiahfurrow7414
      @isaiahfurrow7414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Have u seen the new 6000 series players being shown at NAMM this week? Looks sweet!

    • @giladshaked131
      @giladshaked131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In mixer pioneer taks all day long in fx pioneer all day long

    • @giladshaked131
      @giladshaked131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The mixer pioneer all the way.

    • @yopkb1976
      @yopkb1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about Rane 70 and 72 ? Need your advice Thanks

    • @rubioe3067
      @rubioe3067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Effects, and behind the beer (in a Club)

  • @ajohnstitch
    @ajohnstitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    If Denon bring us a Prime 4+ with full size jogs Pioneer might as well give in.
    Pioneer are always scared to bring us an all singing all dancing unit as it would harm the sales of the over priced club gear.

    • @davidmeza3157
      @davidmeza3157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agree!!!!!!!

    • @Peter-zw8yn
      @Peter-zw8yn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's common sense though, what would be the point in having flagship club gear if a £2000 controller can do it all. The benefit of xdj is that you get a transferable feel to the systems you'll find in club, therefore no adjustment period.

    • @trentonx
      @trentonx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or motorised jogs aaaah

    • @TheEpicProjects300K
      @TheEpicProjects300K 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They basically shot themselves in the foot with the RX3. Many venues I've played at are replacing CDJs with the RX3

  • @garycoz3138
    @garycoz3138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I love the Prime 4 but when you arrive at a venue that has Pioneer, muscle memory is a factor. No time to check if you are pressing the right button. Guess the answer is to buy both 💰💰

    • @nikoxiro
      @nikoxiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Muscle memory for the first then minutes..after that you get use to what ever it is, if you are pro

    • @rumporridge1
      @rumporridge1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup buy both

    • @stanleycaughman6002
      @stanleycaughman6002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s what I did

    • @Laxlii
      @Laxlii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahaha

    • @ImpactSpace
      @ImpactSpace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you are too stupid to make a quick switchover from a Pioneer to a Denon (that also reads RB sticks btw) then you shouldn't DJ at all, man.

  • @DJChristo3lektric
    @DJChristo3lektric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    You brought up quality of Pioneer vs Denon but my experience owning many products including the flagship units from both companies is many times the Denon are better built. In the case of these players the Prime 4 uses all metal pots and is a very sturdy unit. The XZ although has fantastic build quality doesn't have quick swap faders and uses a combination of metal and less durable plastic pots. I think your review was pretty unbiased but I think this needed to be shared.

    • @djlawrencejames
      @djlawrencejames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your valuable input!

    • @maartensayshello5075
      @maartensayshello5075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any view on sound quality? I believe the Pioneer controller takes the (improved) sound card from the NXS2 mixer. The older Pioneer mixers sucked in sound quality imho while the newest ones are said to sound better, but haven't tested side to side. Also no comparison to the Denon.

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good point! But Pioneer fanboys ignore that and say Denon is for bedroomers. Brainwashed idoits they are.

    • @ericpeters0n
      @ericpeters0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maartensayshello5075 Apparently this unit does *not* include the NXS2 mixer soundcard. The sound quality has identical specs to the DDJ-1000, which merely sounds 'ok' a la DJM700
      This makes sense, since the cost of the NXS2 mixer alone is basically the same as the cost of the XZ. The cost savings had to come from somewhere...

    • @trhoades2063
      @trhoades2063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way, the feel on the prime literally feels like a toy, it's tiny and plastic

  • @busywl69
    @busywl69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Denon for DJs that never play out live on Pioneer gear. Gives you so much more.

  • @stevemcc1842
    @stevemcc1842 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Prime 4 is awesome to play on. I got started practicing on a Denon duel deck CD players. But for me now it's Pioneer, because it's been road tested and can take a beating. My friend had 2 Pioneer CDJ-700 that worked great for years, used almost every weekend for over 10 years. You become club standard, by being reliable.

    • @robson_uk
      @robson_uk ปีที่แล้ว

      Dont lie 700 come out in 2015 idiot

  • @Krasstaman
    @Krasstaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks mate for this, i debated with myself what i should get next but now im sure its gonna be the denon!

  • @djlawrencejames
    @djlawrencejames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loving the debate on this!

  • @Ziggy_v2
    @Ziggy_v2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For the price Prime4. Also Prime4 is a game changer - more advanced than anything that's currently out in the market - it's perfect for the wedding DJ. You can set hot cues, fix beat grids, make playlists, on the fly. Wifi enabled makes it real easy to use Tidal. The only downside are the small platters and the Engine Prime software.

  • @shanecharley3269
    @shanecharley3269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got the XZ today. Its a beaut out of the box. Can't wait to test drive it this weekend. Cheers for the vid

    • @Mikey-to6sz
      @Mikey-to6sz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oof

    • @ImpactSpace
      @ImpactSpace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmm have fun with that ancient screen and limited CPU :/

    • @shanecharley3269
      @shanecharley3269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ImpactSpace it's perfect for my needs. That's all I wanted

  • @Scorpio9001
    @Scorpio9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I think it boils down to one simple fact. Prime 4 is the evolution of the controller. Pioneer has faith that the have the foothold on the market, and they are counting on market loyalty. They saw what Denon put out and could have held out and matched the competition. But they are waiting to see what we the consumers want. If Denon's profit shares jump, they will follow with a few more tricks. But ultimately, we as consumers win big. Denon is clearly the winner, but the race is far from over. I don't have either, but my next purchase would be the Denon, or wait for Pioneer's follow up.

    • @gloupconnor8803
      @gloupconnor8803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Denon released the SC6000 so Pioneer made a shitty overprised copy of it called cdj 3000 and really it still can‘t keep up with the SC6000.

    • @TheBackwasher
      @TheBackwasher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would guess Pioneer is more like "let's reuse this component and not invest much in R&D to cut the costs and maximize our margins". Brand new RX3 is another example of this. Seems to be working. I'd rather put my money in Denon's hardware as I feel I'm getting much more value for my money and mostly I like what it has to offer.

  • @13Radi
    @13Radi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks a lot for your introduction 🙂
    I'm already bought the XDJ-XZ 🙂 This week will arrive 😁 I CAN NOT WAIT 🤗 Will be fun for sure 😎

    • @pavlefajl9892
      @pavlefajl9892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How's the xz?:)

    • @hibitsounds9755
      @hibitsounds9755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You made the right choice. Gonna do the same. 👌

    • @hibitsounds9755
      @hibitsounds9755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately it's out of stock everywhere. Should have bought it earlier. Im going for the rx2. Is almost the same thing, but cheaper

    • @boyoboyo4153
      @boyoboyo4153 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hibitsounds9755 its so annoying, been searching and searching.

    • @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY
      @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Xdj xz is a joke compared with the prime 4. Cost less and more innovative with the big screen

  • @phelper4554
    @phelper4554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A key feature for me came with the last update, ableton Link syncing for all the Denon players. That’s a game changer for every live act

  • @RathOX
    @RathOX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the Prime Go vs the like a pioneer RR or maybe RX2

  • @zhurah6209
    @zhurah6209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro I already have the Prime 4. Best purchase that I have made in a long time.

  • @athavy92
    @athavy92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FYI: It seems most of the Pioneer DJ products are unavailable at the time of this comment. I've had the XDJ-XZ in backorder status for 3 months now. I'm going to have to try the Prime 4 for now until I can save up for a full standard CDJ setup.

  • @SherwinBajao
    @SherwinBajao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    "Use this video to decide which one to buy but this is not a buyer's guide." LMAO

    • @adamcutting6002
      @adamcutting6002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sherwin Bajao bias I think he means

    • @djlawrencejames
      @djlawrencejames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      oops! our bad! Wrong choice of words... We basically mean... this is NOT a definitive answer on which you SHOULD buy... but hopefully all the info you need to make an informed decision! Thanks for watching

    • @tlbagnall
      @tlbagnall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@djlawrencejames everyone knew what u meant

  • @djandross3801
    @djandross3801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll take the technology than looks... I've played with both and the Prime 4 is definitely my way to go.. absolutely versatile. I don't need my laptop unless Im adding sounds to my mix. Both controllers do an awesome job.

  • @SerranoPE
    @SerranoPE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been looking at buying a couple of Pioneer CDJ's and a mixer to play around with at home. Then I saw this Denon Prime 4!! I really wanted a Pioneer set-up but this Denon just seems to have everything I need [and then some] for what I'm using it for.

  • @Bremflux
    @Bremflux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Denon seems to get what today's DJ wants in terms of reliability, durability, ease of use... They don't have a lot to lose unlike pioneer who is probably hesitant to throw all the gold in 1 basket. I think they'll respond with an improved unit sooner than later, making the jog wheel, fx engine and screen functionality better. Software can always be tweaked, so look out for a plus version soon.

  • @johnnygmcallister405
    @johnnygmcallister405 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANKS FOR THE REVIEW

  • @muxima2004
    @muxima2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, this video helped me to decide which one to get.
    This is like Lamborghini Vs Bugatti

    • @ivanrendon4155
      @ivanrendon4155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait!! which one is Bugatti lol

    • @muxima2004
      @muxima2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂 prime 4 is a Bugatti

    • @ivanrendon4155
      @ivanrendon4155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@muxima2004 Absolutely right!!

  • @seanbrennan3472
    @seanbrennan3472 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m lucky enough to own both these units, I’m not entirely sure comparing like for like is a good idea, the Pioneer is not aimed at being better than the Prime 4 it’s sole purpose is to recreate the Nexus 2 experience to act as a stepping stone to club gear the same screen, navigation etc the Denon on the other hand is an exercise in what’s possible and technically is a beast that the Pioneer can’t match apart from the obvious technical specs it’s much better made than the Pioneer and the sound quality blows the Pioneer out the water I love both if I had to sell one and keep the other it would be tough but I’d keep the Denon

  • @davidbetts2980
    @davidbetts2980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate this video, thank you.

  • @churchillcoins8519
    @churchillcoins8519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a great comparison. Do you think Denon will come out with a large, mechanical jog wheel?

  • @ceeworld4151
    @ceeworld4151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done great tutorial lots of information pat yourself on the back

  • @keithlee4963
    @keithlee4963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you really take the XDJ XZ anywhere though? I feel as though it would be better to keep at home or in your studio to just mimic a club set up.

  • @DoubleDave59
    @DoubleDave59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is now possible to switch decks using the SHIFT button when
    operating DJ software on XDJ XZ (firmware update 1.12)

  • @TeleporterM11
    @TeleporterM11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know when the Beatport Link will be available on the Denon Prime 4 ?

  • @wheelmanvicful
    @wheelmanvicful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm doing my research before buy this devices and I'm leaning towards denon

  • @Omrie69
    @Omrie69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on review pal! I just demo'd both these units and i gotta say the Denon software pisses on the Pioneers no contest, but it came down to exactly what you said the Denon feels flimsy and the jog wheels are a joke.
    Basically Denon is Apple OSX smooth like butter and Samsung is pretty much Pioneer.

  • @bigdaz7272
    @bigdaz7272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looked at both of these but not being able to use 4 decks on the Pioneer unless you connect a Laptop is unforgivable.
    Denon looks seriously amazing apart from the vastly inferior Jogs.
    Considering i could use another Laptop i could pick up the DDJ1000 + Decent Laptop for the same price as the XZ

  • @69grandpa69
    @69grandpa69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm ordering the prime with amazon prime

  • @brianmccloskey8575
    @brianmccloskey8575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are either of these controllers compatible with traktor? Would make for a solid standalone/controller mix. If your laptop plays up with in my opinion the best dj software out there you still have the 2 channel for pioneer or 4 channel for denon USB standalone backup.

  • @lextr3110
    @lextr3110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    which one sound the best?

  • @djkrzysiu
    @djkrzysiu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats better for beat juggling ? And scraching theres no review of this topic

  • @kuba017
    @kuba017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have question about hot cues.
    I was trying Prime 2 today and there was one thing I couldn't figure out. Whe I use my MC3000 together with Virtual DJ I use a lot of Hot Cues. The cool thing is that each time I use any of my Hot Cues and then press CUE button music stops at the last Hot Cue I used instead of going back to "main" cue point ( the one next to PLAY button ). It's so annoying that in Prime 2 each time I am testing my Hot Cues I have to find the way to go to the one I like. For example I want to jump to one of them and prepare loop... If I just pres hot cue button It starts playing and I cant set the loop.
    I hope you understand what I mean.
    Is this possible to make Prime going back to last Hot Cue I used? I was testing only with original OS without updating.

  • @dj_paultuk7052
    @dj_paultuk7052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you can link SC5000's into the Prime4 and have them on the display. Ive seen it done @ MoS recently. They probably just used a simple network switch into the 1 rear Ethernet port.

  • @isaiahfurrow7414
    @isaiahfurrow7414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Playing out vs at home.... I would much rather play out on the same gear, or very similar gear as I use at home for practice and for mobile gigs.... thankfully there aren't any venues in my area using installed Pioneer systems, so playing out is always on my own kit.... if I were ever to play out in a place with some gear already in the booth, they'd have to have room for me to place my setup in the booth and plug into their mixer...if not, well, im not the DJ for them...
    I do mostly mobile work, so for now I'm happy with my Serato/MC7000 setup, and looking to add one Denon Prime player to that...
    Someday I may move to a standalone like the Prime 4, but not anytime soon. Nice to see lots of progress happening though, by the time I make the switch, the standalone systems will he truly top end kit...
    2020 gonna be rockin!

  • @djjeffrichards
    @djjeffrichards 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LOVE my Prime 4!! The ONLY thing I dislike about it, is their choice of built in streaming service. Tidal sucks! If it had Spotify built in, it would be 110% perfect.

    • @djdangelohendricks4399
      @djdangelohendricks4399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can assure you that they working on it. It's just a matter of time.

  • @odessaone5863
    @odessaone5863 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own a pioneer xdj xz. I'm a dj since 2004 and started using pioneer equipment since 2008. to be honest, it doesn't matter what you use. It's a preference. And I always played on pioneer set up's. So for me it's an easy pick. But that doesn't mean that the Denon is less than the Pioneer. They are both really good products. Good to see that there is a rival for Pioneer. keeps things interesting

  • @vincestyles1030
    @vincestyles1030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a Denon user I have the MCX8000 however i do like the work space on the Pioneer better the Denon sounds much cleaner

  • @maartensayshello5075
    @maartensayshello5075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any view on sound quality? I believe the Pioneer controller takes the (improved) sound card from the NXS2 mixer. The older Pioneer mixers sucked in sound quality imho while the newest ones are said to sound better, but haven't tested side to side. Also no comparison to the Denon.

  • @yonax2885
    @yonax2885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the XDJ-XZ

  • @Bodzio1982
    @Bodzio1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I like more Denon but the jog wheels looks childish so will go for Pioneer.

  • @PowerzChannel
    @PowerzChannel ปีที่แล้ว

    The prime 4 is a beast I would suggest you buy two, I've got one but I'm going to buy another one, just in case. I've been playing on the sb3 for years, my DJ enjoyment changed when I got the prime 4, what an amazing piece of kit

    • @nartnayr
      @nartnayr ปีที่แล้ว

      My situation exactly. Currently on an SB3 for the last few years and been looking to get the Prime 4 very soon

    • @PowerzChannel
      @PowerzChannel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nartnayr What’s stopping you from getting it ?

    • @nartnayr
      @nartnayr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PowerzChannel Waiting for any of the resale sites to restock. Other than that, waiting on a good deal to pop up on ebay lol

  • @chrisschneider850
    @chrisschneider850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i felt the build quality if the denon felt way nicer, thicker, heavier than the pioneer. yes the jogs are smaller. but it depends how and what you mix. the tension can be adjusted inside the settings. pioneer just works. they all do. and both units work great with vdj. (i hate rb). one thing you didnt mention, and most important is sound quality.

  • @DjSmoothNY
    @DjSmoothNY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most ppl have made an issue out of Denons small jog wheels but for me, I put the Prime 4 though it’s paces and I am able to cut and scratch just the same. I’d take the unit anywhere and rock out on it. I have noticed the SC500M’s which I’ve recently purchased have a totally different sounding algorithm when cutting and scratching and one for some reason freezes on me at times (firmware glitch) but hey, the freedom of lugging around a laptop was my goal so mission accomplished.

    • @Trunks9us
      @Trunks9us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly believe part of the issue is heat and file formats causing the freeze up. I run a similar hdsp for zapco in car audio and it has the same issue but when i swapped to wave from flac my issues went away. cpu power on decompressing music takes time which takes cpu which it might not take alot but if your board is doing alot it might make it happen that and heat> but I mod my electronics personally with better cooling in general. I just want to know what dac the prime 4 uses

    • @DjSmoothNY
      @DjSmoothNY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trunks9us Since I updated to 2.0.1 I haven’t noticed any freezing on the Prime 4 and I can’t speak for the SC5000M’s anymore because I returned them so I can replace them with the 6000M’s. I came across a forum thread that says the Prime 4 uses AK4413EQ as the 4 Channel DAC if this is helpful?

    • @Trunks9us
      @Trunks9us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DjSmoothNY You must of meant 4493 eq because the 4413 would be so old like 90s i assume from me searching and trying to find a release date just knowing the dacs already as I prefer ess9038 pro was my hope but i figured it was to much to assume that. its too bad the 4493 isnt bad just dated some the flagship currently is the 4499 they are prob just running two since chips is all. its pretty normal.

    • @DjSmoothNY
      @DjSmoothNY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trunks9us I honestly couldn’t tell you. I hardly use E.Q. Took that info from one of the forum replies so he could be wrong. The unit overall is really badass and I’ve only had it just over a month. I just wish it had a compressor/limiter to balance out low/high digital files during playback.

  • @DJFlowtunes
    @DJFlowtunes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I am sorry but you sound biased and not objective at all in this comparison you started off good and at the end made it sound like the Prime 4 was a toy you play with at home while the Pioneer is the big stuff you use in live performances. Nothing can be further from the truth. The pioneer is simply living on old glory cause the and the prime 4 brings in modern innovation to DJing that any real DJ would appreciate.

    • @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY
      @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DJ Flowtunes they always use the same excuse pioneer is the industry standard.....but it is only a matter of time for Denon

  • @jamesmiller3639
    @jamesmiller3639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one is the same as using a club standard set up ?

  • @carlo11marc1
    @carlo11marc1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prime 4 all the way love it...Denon going to change the game for ever...

  • @jakestokes1587
    @jakestokes1587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    But is is XR better then the DDJ-1000 as still don’t know what one to buy! Help guys

  • @trhoades2063
    @trhoades2063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I go with the Xdj with this one, the prime feels like a toy, the jog wheels are too loose for me, and the only real thing that I wish that the Xdj had from the prime would be the screen size and of course the weight. But in all honesty I feel like the guys who are going to buy this prime are going to be looking at the screen too often and beat matching by eye rather than by ear. For me it's the Xdj xz, I just wish pioneer had made it a true stand alone but hey we can't have it all our own way

  • @adityaharsh
    @adityaharsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just for the premium feel & build quality I'd buy XDJ-XZ anytime. Other features and technological andvancements do matter but when you're in the zone, in the middle of a set, I don't care unless I can load my track ;)
    Just my opinion. Love for Pioneer DJ and appreciation for Denon DJ. A healthy competion is in the air.

  • @djquikdr
    @djquikdr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think I totally agree with his final conclusion. If you play at home the answer is Denon. In the club the answer is Pioneer.

    • @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY
      @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noooooooo, denon is much better. Prime 4 rulezzzzzz pioneer sucks

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same brainwashed marketing victim. Denons are just as good for the clubs. Stop defending the overpriced monopolist.

    • @ImpactSpace
      @ImpactSpace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Denons work just as well in clubs. They read RB sticks, they are made of metal, they have water-sealed PCBs. Time to end that club vs bedroom nonsense, its propaganda, nothing more.

    • @scorp888
      @scorp888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      More accurate would be.
      If you aspire to play in a club, get the Pioneers.
      If you're actually out DJing weddings, parties bars and the likes, you'll be taking the prime 4 with you and actually doing it.

  • @acewolf1
    @acewolf1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are right for me

  • @danthemanwhocancan
    @danthemanwhocancan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    £18.99!! Take my money Pioneer!!

  • @elliotleach6709
    @elliotleach6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, I prefer the XZ myself.

  • @robertmanning1032
    @robertmanning1032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm A DJ at home here I never ever owned a Denon DJ product ever so I would go for more then likely the Denon one more do to the screen size

  • @marcb2raw
    @marcb2raw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Also gotta take sound quality into consideration and that’s where the Prime 4 has the pioneer beat. I have both Prime 4 and MCX 8000 and the output is way crisper than the pioneers.

    • @djs5889
      @djs5889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The XDJ XZ use a better soundcard (like DJM 750 mk2). It sounds better for me, as any other Pioneer Controller. Only the DJM 900 mk2 is bit better, my opinion.

    • @eddyayoung
      @eddyayoung 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have both myself

    • @DJANDY777
      @DJANDY777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Denon has 93 SNR, Pioneer 114 SNR.

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DJANDY777 SNR =/= sound quality.

    • @Trunks9us
      @Trunks9us 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m-stat9 Actually dynamic range is sq over snr. Snr is signal to noise ratio . The difference is what is audible in filtering out noise by electrical interference. Snr does have its role dont get me wrong. But dynamic range is actual sq which is why i would never buy a pioneer simply because high res audio. Your sq is only as good as your source. If i have superior audio with a 500mb song vs you 40mb song thats dynamic range man its the same comparision of wave vs mp3.

  • @yimmydeep
    @yimmydeep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Prime 4 all that way!! Technology is Technology.....

    • @OiVinn-eq1ml
      @OiVinn-eq1ml ปีที่แล้ว

      Not alwats. There's also quality too

  • @Ido_eliaz
    @Ido_eliaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    if I work with serato I could put my music on a disk on key and play from the XZ without computer?

    • @djslip_irie
      @djslip_irie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yah , the xz has 2 USB inputs for playing straight off them , but you cannot use them as the 3rd and 4th decks if that's what you mean.

  • @guylai65
    @guylai65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you play USB stick and serato software at the same time.

    • @patrickbutlerentertainment5020
      @patrickbutlerentertainment5020 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guy Lai the pioneer will be able to play usb and Serato at the same time. This is a huge setback for Denon. Denon can only be in “controller mode” or “usb mode” at a time.

  • @charliefinbow1987
    @charliefinbow1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought about the old coin flip, watched so many videos and the prime 4 wins most of the time, if the pioneer deck had a different name on it, but was 100% the same in quality everyone would go for the prime 4, j know what im going to do 💰💰💰

  • @DeanBrown
    @DeanBrown 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the microphone passthru to recording my mix in serato with the Prime 4?

  • @SAM-LDN
    @SAM-LDN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pioneer playing catch up with prime 4. Denon wins this one

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly! The XZ is overpriced trash. That tiny ancient screen is awful, the loop and memory buttons outdated, the CPU and RAM very limited. Also no SD, SSD and WIFI, no full track buffering and on-board analysis. You can't use 4 decks or even do longer beat jumps than 8. What a joke! 🤦‍♂️
      forums.pioneerdj.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360055224552-XDJ-XZ-max-8-beat-beat-jump-Why-

  • @itvisor1
    @itvisor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I trust your opinion very!
    When it comes to controller I go for pioneer.
    What about the nxs2000 and sc5000...
    I am in a big confusion at this moment to buy nxs2000 or sc5000? What do you recommend! Thank you

    • @DJChristo3lektric
      @DJChristo3lektric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A Pioneer fanboy will tell you the 2000nxs. A person concerned with features and raw ability will tell you Denon. A person who doesn't have the skillset to bounce between different types of DJ setups will tell you Pioneer. You can buy two SC5000 and their 1800 mixer for less than one single 2000nxs. Game over

    • @itvisor1
      @itvisor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJChristo3lektric What a lovely motivation, man you get the end 🔚
      But what make me smile now, i was juat watching your Videos from couple of days :))
      Thanks for taking the time.
      Cheers 🍻

    • @ericburgos
      @ericburgos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Xone96 and two SC5000 players. It's a wonderful setup!

  • @adamtarver
    @adamtarver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve played on the DDJ 1000SRT and I have to say that I do like those jog wheels better than the Denon. But in technology, Denon won the race by a mile and therefore got my sale over pioneer. I was an avid pioneer user and went to the dark side. Sorry guys but Denons winning the race right now…

  • @djdommenjay
    @djdommenjay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Right now the industry standard is pioneer so I’m staying with it until the next thing is the official industry standard everyones using.

    • @SpirosKiriakopoulos
      @SpirosKiriakopoulos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But this is how you make a new industry standard. Denon deserves it. We as buyers have the power to change that.

  • @peteross4587
    @peteross4587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fancy that cap

  • @azazel21379
    @azazel21379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have 2 go with the Pioneer if i ever bought a controller, i have 2 cdj 900 nexus and 2 cdj NX2s, but i bought the new Denon 6000ms, cuz i thought they would feel like 12s, and didn't like them, so I sold them in 2 months

  • @pierrefitch
    @pierrefitch ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I hook up my Akai MPC one to this prime 4 and my guitar 🎸

  • @chadnliz2k11
    @chadnliz2k11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can not choose streaming partner of "choice" ...unless you only like a couple choices.

  • @doctormasterdevil
    @doctormasterdevil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I can't believe this is even a question it's a murder scene where the pioneer gets dumped in trash bags scattered in the forest

    • @Antweezy
      @Antweezy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Little harsh, but I do agree. Denon is changing the game.

    • @djdrow9369
      @djdrow9369 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaahaah

    • @bboymac84
      @bboymac84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hahaha true Denon is pushing the game for a stand-alone units. People care about hearing their favorite songs in great quality as fast as possible. The Denon wins in the department.

    • @hogard2992
      @hogard2992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The only thing the xz had that was better is the jog wheel haha

    • @beatriceheinze2294
      @beatriceheinze2294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bboymac84 , indeed...I ❤ my Denon Prime 4. It sounds great :-).

  • @kereamohau
    @kereamohau 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In terms of features: Denon. All the way
    In terms of sortware:
    Rekordbox.
    Denon would clean up if they fix their software. Imagine if they could even use the beat grid information from your rekordbox analized music. I would jump on board.

    • @carlitosmota4900
      @carlitosmota4900 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kere Amohau that the only I won’t buy the prime 4 there beat grid on there software is nowhere like reckordbox..
      I tried to the beat grid on engine and my bpm’s where no were near rekordbox ..
      So that’s why I will never get prime

    • @PhantasmX7
      @PhantasmX7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Recordbox is better than Engine Prime...for now. Software is the easy part. It will get there.

    • @superlazy3355
      @superlazy3355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure you can... I think you can import stuff from rekordbox serato and traktor and it migrates your cues n grids over too....

    • @kereamohau
      @kereamohau ปีที่แล้ว

      Well this comment aged well.
      Seems like Denon has been paying attention.
      I checked the new version of Engine DJ and it does indeed import the beat grid information from Rekordbox.

  • @DjTmoT
    @DjTmoT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the exits?

  • @kendrickjarias
    @kendrickjarias 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    does anyone have the prime 4 plus, has the faders and jog wheels been improved?

  • @saigonmonopoly1105
    @saigonmonopoly1105 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it have a Tomorrowland port?

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the main difference is platers, fx EQ and main EQ.

  • @NasserAlazzawiTV
    @NasserAlazzawiTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I was choosing between the XZ and Prime 4 then an entire SC6000 / x1850 combo in the end. For me, standing in front of both XZ / P4 units and playing for a while - it’s obviously all about how you feel when you are playing. And in the end I kept coming back to the XZ (also because of the added bonus of Master Eq to tame and tweak a venue Sound System). I’m an intermediate level DJ and run my own events. I definitely wouldn’t be throwing a prime 4 up there for guest DJs to play on but an XZ I would (and have very successfully with a VOID sound system)
    For practicality also - you can move the XZ around but you do need a carry case (Swift) or as a minimum if loading in the car, a decksaver. I’ve played some nice beach sets on it and the size / quality of everything is awesome in the flesh. P4 Screen / SSD bay would have been better but I didn’t “need” any of this as I play my best sets when I prepare my playlists with the rekordbox workflow anyway. They would be “nice to have” even if the screens are basically from 2010.
    Hats off to denon though, in the current climate I couldn’t justify the extra £2000 for a full Denon setup and the P4 on features alone is unreal. The next person might prefer playing on that form factor I just can’t get away with the size / feel of the knobs faders and jogs. The multi zone play thing is unsung and awesome for small multi room venue installations. I’d like to see the P4 Mk2take on a bigger form factor and feel “full sized”. Denon are coming!

  • @Raveclub101
    @Raveclub101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why can’t the prime 4 have the cdj jog wheels I would buy it right now just the mechanical feel

    • @Crossfader
      @Crossfader  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Denon seem quite set on the capacitive jog wheels. Many of us in the office would prefer a mechanical jog wheel but these are more reliable over time. The rival XDJ RX2 has the same style jog wheels too remember.

    • @Raveclub101
      @Raveclub101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah But I love the Prime 4 it has so much more to offer. I can see how it would last longer but it would be a great option if you could choose

  • @djdrow9369
    @djdrow9369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    denon prime is the 1

  • @Flstevieg23
    @Flstevieg23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so torn! I really don't know which one to get. I'm just going to have to flip a coin lol

    • @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY
      @EJAY-THE-DEEJAY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy denon prime 4. Its really amazing. Worth your money!!!

    • @m.k.685
      @m.k.685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I have been researching for many weeks already and I don't come to a conclusion. Already ordered the XZ few weeks ago (cannot be shipped yet) but still not decided finally... Hopefully there comes a new piece of gear in the next weeks that's saving me this decision.

  • @erickstanza8782
    @erickstanza8782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And what about the pitch shifter resolution? Which has the finest resolution?

    • @BlueHawk80
      @BlueHawk80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Denon, you get 0.01% vs 0.02% here and also more Pitch resolutions (24%, 50%...)

  • @Nexom19
    @Nexom19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reads rekordbox usb
    Record mix on usb
    Read internal ssd
    4 channel standalone (only one consolle to control 4 channel)
    Armonic mixing
    Sampler using the 8 cue button
    Zone out playing other music genre
    Display your logo on decks
    Internal Wifi and bluetooth
    Playlist on the fly
    Internal autoanalysis of song
    And whatever do you need at right price ...

  • @armandohernandez1224
    @armandohernandez1224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the prime 4 work for virtual dj I bought one but it doesn’t connect to computer mode
    (Works with Serato tho)

    • @Crossfader
      @Crossfader  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't cover Virtual DJ at the moment unfortunately but we did a quick search and found that it is compatible. You will need to download the MIDI mapping files from Virtual DJ and it requires the Pro licence. Hope this helps!

    • @chrisschneider850
      @chrisschneider850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      works perfect

  • @krenkson
    @krenkson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the Prime 4 but hate the fact they dont support Traktor software plus there is no DVS out of box (must use computers for that). I stick to my S4mk3

  • @ats_us_nai
    @ats_us_nai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The inner me says get the pioneer for resell purposes but the prime seems to be a better unit

    • @goforjackie9909
      @goforjackie9909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Legitimately just had this discussion. I'm so torn.......

  • @basshousemixtapes7219
    @basshousemixtapes7219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone says dennon is better, but what I think is that Dennon only wins with the technology on the screen. But why should you need that, better and bigger jogs is much more important. And pioneer has better effects and a better overall feeling. See waveforms and scrolling in ur tracks is the only thing u have to do on ur screen.

  • @GeraldTN06
    @GeraldTN06 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... if you are not intro scratching, the denon is the clear winner?

  • @giannauccheddu1461
    @giannauccheddu1461 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @costasx
    @costasx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Denon is top

  • @OiVinn-eq1ml
    @OiVinn-eq1ml ปีที่แล้ว

    Denon is Much cheaper with more channels too. I also like the design & color! Only advantage Pioneer has it's the extra effects which I want =/

  • @dj_paultuk7052
    @dj_paultuk7052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    From what i am seeing on the ground as a DJ, is that Bars & clubs taking notice of Denon DJ. My own local town now has 2 bars with Prime4's. Would be interesting to know why they made that move. Was it their preference, or did their DJ's request that change.

    • @maus3454
      @maus3454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I noticed that too. More and more clubs go for Denon instead of Pioneer.

    • @dj_paultuk7052
      @dj_paultuk7052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maus3454 One of the biggest clubs in the UK, Ministry of Sound now has 2 sets of SC5000's.

    • @DobuDobuDobuDot
      @DobuDobuDobuDot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most big clubs around the world are sponsored by manufacturers so there's really no "club going for"

  • @nikoxiro
    @nikoxiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If ppl buy the pionner for the cdj pro style..they should think that after three years the new cdjs should be around the corner now, probably with a new way and look !!

  • @rickylearnsgolf
    @rickylearnsgolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can pitch slide on xdj xz serato

  • @larpus45
    @larpus45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    xdj-xz if you have the pioneer ecosystem. prime 4 if you want a tool for mixing music.
    this debate is similar of what i read of IOS vs android... this isn't a war, this is more about of what do you NEED and for what.