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- This game is weird. It looks a lot like Touhou, but it does not??
Len'en Project is the name and it's here to save the day! It's a weird game created by three Japanese students, later given to famous-yet-small-man JynX. Why is it so weird? I dunno, probably Tsubakura's hat and the strange OST.
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More people getting to know Len'En really makes me happy! Also, I agree about the thing you've said about Len'en community being the "Touhou from 2005". It actually gives me hope of this community to grow into something similar once.
Hello can,you are the person who created EE in a nutshell(that was really funny, especially how cursed they ended up looking,LOL)can you make one about EMS and RMI,I want to see how shion and tsugumi gonna look like,fufufu
Len'en is honestly really neat in that it seems like Touhou on the surface but has a different vibe underneath it all.
Where Touhou games often follow a specific self-contained theme and build their characters and story around that, Len'en games are often more chaotic (especially in 4's case...) and serve to slowly reveal more of the mystery about the setting and the characters.
The gameplay, writing and music are also far more chaotic and rough around the edges, but this isn't exclusively a bad thing, since it does help Len'en feel more distinct. It honestly reminds me of PC-98 Touhou, which also feels quite different from the more modern games.
And at the end of the day, both series exist and can be enjoyed at the same time, so if you're a fan of both it's like having two different cakes you can eat both of!
The Kingdom Hearts of Touhou-likes.
Perfect analogy!
@@mslabo102s2 being cringe on purpose still is cringe
@@akiradkcn Copium moment xD
@@mslabo102s2 Yeah, with the funky mobile game and all!
not gonna lie this is a really great starting point for me to get into the len'en rabbit hole since i've actually been interested in going into this series for a while now
I recently just got into len'en a few days ago and then this vid pops up and i'm like: 😮 damn what perfect timing
Same here im still confused about the characters names though
as a len'en fan from 2020 JOIN JOIN JOIN INTO THE CULT
I've also been meaning to learn more about len'en, I've known of it's existence ever since me and my brother located a song from it from a meme, and it seems interesting, and I could always use another rabbithole to go down
I really like the plot and characters of Len'en, especially the main duo. I also like Rei and Zelo, who are very entertaining for characters meant to promote the series
Go on Len'en community, spread this video out and make JynX proud
And to those two specific people who are having a meltdown about my joke;
cope and seethe.
You heard my cries
Question did you already play it fully?
Based
Gonna love assumptions stirring up like :WeltHmph:
As a len'en fan ( as if it isnt already obvious from my pfp and videos lol)
thank you so much for you making a video about len'en
Touhou's the place where even bootlegs are amazing
len'en inspired everything i tried to do up to this point. thank you for covering len'en.
Correction: suzumi was introduced in BPoHC trial ver as a secret stage 3 boss, they were later added as playable in the past 3 games after that
wdym? suzumi was always a part of the series, you must be misremembering things.
Maybe they fucked with our memories
No way the Eye hat guy
Ah yes, Len’en. I am still in Len’en Brainrot. I want more of this franchise’s fandom.
Oh, hello there old sport.
hi Dylan
Hi Wriggle.
Hi… Dylan.
i love len'en project is a really good (and hard) shooter the characters design is cool
and seeing you trying to make these games known makes me happy :)
"Strange?" Hm, yes. But I'd include "awesome" in that description as well.
thank you so much for making this, i absolutely love this series
if you watched this and havent tried len'en yet, please do
there is some crazy deep lore you can get into as well if you like that
Yeah you would not believe the lore in this bitch.
So not only is there 3 decades of Touhou lore I gotta learn but now there's a fan spin off with a ton of lore too? Ah shit here we go again
@@matt7399 it's not spin-off, It is it's own thing
heard about it in the 2015, even listened a song, but i didn't knew the name of the project. you just unlocked some memories in me lad
Must confess, I _love_ Len'en!
The musics slaps, the characters are cool (and sometimes funny), gameplay's decent, and the list of compliments so go on!
People calling Len'en a ripoff is stupid,when ZUN was creating touhou in PC_98 he stole some assets from other games code,also he stole some art and character without the franchise or mangas permission,so touhou also was a weird dodonpochi ripoff that nobody really cared about,till touhou 6 happened and everyone now love touhou(example of heavily inspired cast?):
Ellen:hatarikimono(izumi takemoto)
Gengetsu:mai(persona manga)
Yumeko:haoun(megamei tensei)
Shinki:Lucifer(megamei tensei)
The girl in background if fallen shrine(Alice soft games(NSFW))
Sariel:(Alice soft games(NSFW))
Even reimu:sayo chan(kiki kai kai)
I came across here by the recommendations of youtube,its amazing to see Len'en reaching far and beyond!
Nice to see you talk about it,good video!
Very interesting video, I didn't know anything about Len'en Project, but after this I have to check it out
If both Touhou and Len'en would collaborate one day..
Technically they have in 4 through Haiji
@@Gyrokunthat just one sided. Jynx is just admiring zun spells.
False infomations all around:
> Bigboss, Daijin and JynX worked on together
False, Daijin only knew JynX years later as a co-worker and gave the original Len'en idea and helped JynX develop his games, as evidenced in games' credits. Also it seems that JynX himself had something in his mind (as evidenced in The Wings of Magritte video). Just a hunch, but I see current Len'en is a combination of both, or JynX piling ideas and modifying upon Daijin's concept. While JynX loves The Elder Scrolls and many other fantasy series with deep lore, Daijin's game was average 2000s Japanese meta "humor", almost cringy.
> EE introduced Suzumi:
That's what Suzumi wants us to know. Suzumi was first introduced in BPoHC and they rewrote the history (updated old games) to insert themselves. If you're playing in order, you don't have to play as Suzumi at least either RMI (which serves as a prequel to BPoHC) or BPoHC, as in EE and EMS, they're just going back in time to collect more information.
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Not surprising given how bad his (nonfighter) spinoffs video is.
Missing the important part of VD's twist that the Dream Sumireko was the player character up until the very end.
*_ONLY COVERING KANAKO'S ROUTE IN 17.5 DESPITE NOT EVEN BEING CLOSE TO RESOLVING THE INCIDENT, HOW DO YOU TALK ABOUT THE PLOT OF 17.5 AND NOT TALK ABOUT FLANDRE?!_*
@@seant1326 Flandre was so overrated that Touhou fans don't need to include her in the incident despite being the one who resolve the plot. It's like removing Himeko from Kiana.
Ah, Len'En my beloved silly game!
It's weird, but I was convinced to play a bullet hell because of the story and characters.
I think the "might be better in some ways" quote might be stirring the pot a little... some annoying people came put of the woodworks.
The only thing I really could consider objectively "better" is the flashbomb system, which gives grazing a tangible reward and not just score.
Aside from that, go out and enjoy the series! It's pretty silly, even if some of the overall ideas are dark.
Final note: Len'En is comprised of the characters names (houLEN, ENraku).
So...
Who's the tou and who's the hou?
TOramarU Shou and HOUraisen Kaguya? I know that Touhou is a word that means Eastern
cant believe toutetsu yuuma and houjuu nue were the real main characters all along
Len'en has always been a project that I found interesting, I sadly have never gotten the time to get around to playing it, but this video seems to preety much sum up the entirety the series! This really gives me the 2014 vibes i love it!
I want that hat
You are not ready for the hat
You are not powerfull enough
Some Len'en love let's gooo
Hot take to most of the people in this comment section: many people seem to follow the fact that 'two wrongs make a right', and seem to think that if one fandom hates the other, it makes them less childish to hate on the other fandom.
You're all acting like toddlers fighting over what's the best toy. Grow up and move on, you've got better things to do in your life than just mindlessly arguing on how X is better than X, or how you hate X fandom. As someone who found Len'en from a Touhou as a fan of the ladder, I'd say both games are great in their own aspects. The creators of either fandom wouldn't want this discourse.
Touhou 18.5 is a bootleg of Len'en 4 and you can't change my mind about that
Len'en is basically what if Yumemi, Chiyuri, Sumireko, Renko, and Maribel took residence in gensokyo
Yes, I heard about this on the first of April, because I heard about this before.
Now I have to be 2 in places at once
I don't regret anything
Really looking forward those Len'en lore videos! And finally it gets some of the attention it deserves
Thank you, I am looking for more obscure games to discover.
thank you for making this i love you
How could you make a video on len'en and not mention its most infamous "achievement", the legendary len'en 4 abrievieted BPoHC. This game has spawned memes that often seep into even regular touhou discussions like "BPoHC is something you are better of not knowing, and if you know, you are better off not playing". Yet BPoHC still has an active player base who tortur... I mean enjoys themselves with it. Actually BPoHC jokes were on the rise when th 18.5 was anounced due to people imediately looking to examples of the cell based gameplay ZUN was introducing.
The fact that th 18,5 as not len'en 4 was kind of a let down
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 Didn't know Touhou fans hate 18.5, I've seen a lot like it. 🤔
@@azureempyrean64 it's not hate, but there was nothing really special about It
I remember the first time seeing this project a long time ago. Awesome to see it didn't get forgotten.
The 3 sides
Touhou
Seihou
Len'en
Im not stupid
Add the musical Nansei as well.
A strange mobile game that completely differs from the original game in gameplay, but still has essential lore? What is this, Kingdom Hearts?!
Len'en is Kingdom Hearts + booze and bullet hell
Hell yeah a video about Len'en! Please source the fanart used though (also JynX has their gender set as private on their blog). Nice to see this series getting attention!
EDIT: Okay so the sources were in a pastebin and I'm just fucking blind.
See my pastebin xo xo
@@Suwawako Oh shit whoops.
Also another note: The fan works page is pretty much dead now (to the point the wiki is considering cutting it). Though it's still pretty neat that we had one in the first place.
@@Suwawako my PC and phone both block pastebin for some reason
2:31. So....this lil' psychopath...her ability is bullshit. The fact that it could be used to justify *retroactivly adding her to the first 3 len'ens* when she was introduced in BPoHC says something.
Their ability is just "poor little meow meow"
I once spent about a week or more just reading the Touhou Wiki since I couldn't buy the games
Looks like Len'en Project is going to be my next target
The Len’en games are free
Len'en fandom is dying, share if you real Leninist
True Leninist right here
I have been a touhou fan for a few years now, and this series seem interesting, should I try out a few games?
I just checked out Len'en some more and everyone seems to hate touhou for some reason and now I have a bad impression on Len'en
@@kikifuno73 As a Lenen fan, I don't hate Touhou nor does the Lenen fans do. You have been spread with misinformation just like the Honkai fans who thought Honkai is going to end
@@azureempyrean64 Nope he is right, there are a lot of fans who can't talk about this thing without taking unnecessary shots at Touhou, a Spanish video where the entire point is that even fanart saying how stupid the characters are compared to Lenin.
Even people here in the comments are quick to say that Touhou is lame
@@ironmaster6496 God Touhou fans are about to become Genshin Fans, I must say. Maybe a bit of Lenen fans too.
@@azureempyrean64 How are Genshin fans exactly? To be clear i don't hate games that are similar to Touhou or something like that, i hate that people are BASHING Touhou in order to make the other one look good, its is unneccesary and dumb.
I mean i line Genshin i play it casually not that much of a big fan i also like The Legend of zelda, but i wont go the zelda forums to say that Genshin is zelda BUT BETTER AND NOT TRASH LIKE ZELDA
Ah, Len'en. Touhou's underrated, distant cousin.
Although people hate this game I still like the music and the artstyle though
john lenen project confirmed
Now we need Stal'En project
Your usage of Mushihimesama music makes me happy
I didn't expect this level of toxicity from the comments by some 2hu fans
Do you just expect to just let people tell them that the game they like sucks?
Genshin moment
its both really. they just cant accept that both are good
JynX now has a vtuber channel, streaming different games
MMMMMMM
Really love how JynX drew those eyes
Only heard of this in passing, but it seems interesting enough
This is interesting! But I keep hearing "Lenin" project instead of Len'en.
Just as a note, JynX's gender is unknown (much like Len'en characters^, lol). It's just that a lot of people assume they're a man and thus refer to them as he/him, so I'm guessing you probably got misled by that.
^Well, a few backstory characters and two characters from side-materials have canon genders. Just detailing this because if I don't, someone else will.
There is a video where he talks, his voice is of a man, but it's a Very sweet one!
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 Well, voice is not necessarily indicative of gender. Aside from the matter with Trans and Non-binary people, some cis people just happen to have voices that sound more like what would be expected of the 'opposite' gender, or at least androgynous.
@@yokaipinata1416 hum, alright
He did it, the mad man did it.
The blonde girl looks like Lunasa
Wow the choice path in bullet hell game seems like a very interesting mechanic
Strange how this game has a name similar to my name and it's pronounced the same way as my name.
Still wait Brilliant Pagoda Or Haze Castle Golden Chapter
As a system, i find it cool that jynx made a canon OSDDID character! Although a bit stereotypical sadly....
The len'en is real!!!
Edit: Looking at the comment section, each of the community either becomes similar to Honkai or Genshin... Who knows, I just want to see how this turns out.
I wonder when will the 5 th game be out. Its been a while since len 4
That aside suzumi only appears in the newer versions of len en 1,2 and 3
The older versions they did not exist
Never heard of it, seems pretty cool, might check it out...or might not due to my inability to remember stuff lol
You totally should, the games are f r e e which makes it easy to pick up
I plan on doing my own inspired by both of touhou and len'en.
I don't want to tell toooo much.
But first, we going to literally just play a toataly normal training simulator that Completely did Not get f***ed with...
Toataly...
This comment section is the most disappointing thing i have ever seen
Agreed. Salty Touhou and Lenen fans everywhere.
its dissapointing but kinda entertaining
As someone from a year later
There is salt back in air since Aleth_D made a critique of suwawako video over thst mistakes he made on the information presented here
@@kapifromnevada4697it's really funny, a little nitpicky, but funny
we never left len'en brainrot
So basically this is the touhou watchmen...
I did inspired a lot from len'en btw
How do you not mention the banger music? To me that's one of the biggest points...
I don't know why people dislike Len'en like it's a bootleg, Jynx makes it very obvious it's _meant_ to be based on Touhou, so I don't see anything wrong with that.
Same thing on how Genshin fans think Honkai is a bootleg
@@azureempyrean64 even though it's supposed to be the other way around...
@@azureempyrean64 genshin fans calling honkai a bootleg always frustates me despite never even touching both games
@@azureempyrean64 i thought honkai came before genshin though
SOMEONE FELL INTO THE LEN'EN RABBIT HOLE
MWAHAHAHAH
Where you can download these games? Preferably with an english translation
not sure if you still care or already figured out, but theres links to the games on len'en wiki. also the english patches are a separate thing you get, but its also on the len'en wiki
@@BuwakoBuwako hey just wondering do you know how to make the text not scroll past the screens edge.
@@ultimapower6950 i think i know what you're talking about since i had issues with it too. did you install the connecting chain handserif font? if not, open it up, and at the top it says install, install it (im assuming you are using the same patch as me since i dont know any other one)
@@BuwakoBuwako well back when I asked my question I did not but after I installed it works now, thanks for the advice, thanks for the help.
@@ultimapower6950 np
Curiosos es interesante el video
🍈 project based
It looks interesting tbh
Book of the cafe footage is only coming from me…huh well screw it i’ll do more (oddly making me inspired to make more BoTC hell even documenting dialogue’s in english since Nilu is a thing
Where are you documenting? I would like to read the dialogue, but i don't know japanese
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 yup slowly and painfully
What's that song at 5:25?
is there any subreddit for the len'en project?
Yes, but it's dead, you can check it
there's a discord server for Lenen
Lenin
*Communism Intensifies*
Why do the characters look even younger than Touhou characters? It’s kinda weird
Touhou fans on their way to defend the massive multimedia project from the wretched claws of a niche glorified fangame
We have to eliminate it before it becomes a problem to Gensokyo XD
That line came from a Doujin i was reading, found it appropriate haha
And here I'm imagining Mugenri being Gensokyo's protectorate...
Sounds like Honkai Star Rail fans to me
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
both are good
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Touhou tried to be Grimdark, but ended up as a Monty Python sketch
Len'en tried to be a Monty Python sketch, but ended up Grimdark
They're still amazing series, and I love them both nonetheless
Umm Dolls of pseudo paradise, Silent Sinner in blue and Lolk might want a word with you, not to mention forbidden scrollery
@@ironmaster6496 besides dolls, i still wouldn't call it grimdark. Then again I don't much about len'en so...
@@captainmega6310 I'll say the implications of the Lunarians themselves and the Yokai system is pretty dark, the fact that the characters ignore it makes it even grimmier
I don't say "tried to be", but more like Monty Python sketch in Grimdark shell for Touhou, and Len'en for vice versa.
@@mslabo102s2 Agreed
I'm already part of the Len'en discord so L
To anyone dogpiling on this game for being a Touhou ripoff, as a Yo Kai Watch fan, just want to let you know that in this instance God does not consider rats as creatures with slender gray hairy bodies and long worm like tails.
You're filling that department today.
Sincerely,
Someone who doesn't give a crap about this franchise but has been traumatised by the ripoff mentality thanks to his favorite franchise's downfall being caused by it
Only calling it a rip off because people say that it is a better franchise without convincing arguments and ignoring that the guy who made it is a fan apparently
Calling it a rip-off is mean, true
But you are being waaaay overdramatic
Its not that deep lol
@@akiradkcn Sorry, childhood trauma.
@@ironmaster6496 "I'm only insulting this franchise because its fans annoy me" do you realize how you sound
So this comment section...... Might be the most stupid I've ever seen in a long time. Like the salt here is palpable but yeah now to the point of this comment. So this video certainly a interesting one to say the least as someone who was 3 months into len'en it's imo better well now I'd have to hold my tougue honestly since touhou 19 isn't out yet but honestly i think it would've been a better option if the video wasn't made in the first place now everything stated here is an. Opinion of course and the flame war down there my oh my is it certainly bad like one guy pulled a sexist card for ambiguous gendered characters like what..... If anything it makes it interesting tbh and I think that's it for this comment.
What's tsubakura gender?
It's up to your own interpretation since the characters in this video game are pretty much gender neutral.
I think he is a boy
Attack Helicopter
something i think
Male or female
You decide
Is len'en a rip-off of touhou? I gotta know.
it has many similarities to touhou but i wouldnt say its a full on ripoff its just heavily inspired by touhou. still good if you wanna play it
Inspired thats all
No it’s just inspired by it.
touho clone
Len’en just copied Touhou
Large cult??
I hope you speak with such confidence about your salary too
Most of these people are just weirdos liking this stuff for arbitrary reasons like characters dont have confirmed genders, like wtf even is this reason to like something.
I am also shocked, how this franchise fails every aspect, it tried to do better than 2hu
What
touhou fans finding out that opinions exist
I agree honestly they pick really arbitrary reasons to sell this thing as THE TOUHOU KILLER or something when in reality it is just a rip off that is relevant only because it looks like an original product which people actually know and like. It's like Gobots in that regard
@@JusanotherPigeon i mean its kind of hard not to get defensive when people are saying that a rip off surpasses the original because of extremely shallow reasons, since day ONE it has been clear that Zun makes Touhou FOR FUN and nothing else, its like Mario or Sonic in that sense
it was never meant to be better than touhou in the first place
0/10, Len'en is more popular than my favorite Niche series
how does that change anything about len'en?
and what's your favorite niche series? i'm curious.
@@spidermacho123 I was joking about how some people dislike something similar to another thing they like just because the other one is more popular, I have another, non joke comment in this very comment section.
So i came to this channel to see some cool Touhou videos and ended up seeing you saying that some weird rip off is BETTER than the franchise that helped shape the internet, inspired a lot of creators from both manga, videogames and animations and even broke a world record.....yeah nope sorry i'm not buying any of this if this is what the channel is really about then i better go somewhere else
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@UC5UFk7lfGuYgqSS1Sx93Trw There is nothing wrong with that at all obviously, but ouright insulting the franchise is something completely different.
I mean this is a touhou channel isn't? At least it has Suwako in the logo, so of course i'm gonna get mad if somebody makes a video saying that an obvious ripoff (same art style and everything, main character its literally a fusion of Reimu and Marisa, and is a danmaku too how original) is better, it's like going to a DC channel just to say "Goku is stronger" it would be pointless, pathetic and will only make people hate DBZ. like...idk what Lenen(?) Even was before this but now i hate it, simple as that.
If it were presented in a different non competitive light maybe i would have given it a chance
@@supercirno7704 Me saying "It might maybe even be better" is subjective. I don't know why you got so angry, but you should remember that I joke around in my videos and I tend to insult things for laughs.
Is this a meta joke about how dumb Cirno is, or are you actually this mad? Either way lulz, made me laugh
@@DiscordSuxPP I legit have zero interest on this rip off, not only because of the video but because from what i've seen in the comments its really seem to hate Touhou and overpraise this thing
Bro, Len'en is Touhou... but better, every characters has a story and a personality, I LOVE LEN'EN PROJECT
Dude The Touhou characters have a freaking personality that's why it became popular in the first place idiot, especially characters like Byakuren or Yuyuko
So much Len'en biased, Honkai biased better
@@ironmaster6496 yeah but in Touhou, there are characters like Ringo or Kisume (and even Rumia) who are forgotten and has no personality, but in Len'en, every Character even the most random like Kurohebi or Kujiru are good characters with personalities and a little story. But yeah, Touhou characters, like final bosses and many others are vert good characters with personalities and stories, but Touhou has too many characters
I wonder what would happen if everybody in Gensokyo fought everybody in Mugenri...? 🤔
@@xenophanesbringsthepain1229 stop that legit has dangerous heated debate power.
Yeah...not a fan of this one at all, literally everytime i searched for this thing the first results i encountered were videos and art of people TRASHING TOUHOU and overpraising Len en, so i'm sorry but i will never like it.
Also the whole ambiguous gender thing is pretty stupid, either the creator is too afraid or sexist to make female protagonists or wants to cater to the weird Otaku crowd
Thats weird, when i searched len’en. All i saw were fanworks and arrangements
I don't think ambiguously gendered character means they are sexist, please. If anything I think it's kinda neat.
Also, not saying it didn't happen, but I never heard anyone trashing Touhou over Len'en.
@@lemonapric i think it is just my bad luck or maybe because i'm from a Spanish speaking country (the video in question was in Spanish), and the fanart i think it was just a coincidence, it came from an artist who really despises the franchise and one of it ms drawings was about a len en character being presented as better and Stronger than the Touhou ones complete with the guy saying it.
I know it isn't that bad and i may be overreacting but since those were my only experiences with the franchise i cant help but see it in a negative light
@@FamilyTeamGaming i mean this video kind of did that too saying it surpass it and stuff, for me this franchise seems to be the Gobots of danmaku not in the sense that it came first (because it obviously didn't) but im how its entire identity relies on being compared to another bigger (and better) franchise, even the art style its the exact same
@@FamilyTeamGaming Yeah i think i jumped on the sexist card way too fast sorry, its jut that everytime the non binary trope is used in games or anime its to be some kind of weird fanservice or joke, and even though non binary means non defined gender everyone always just says the it means men.
For me personally its just sounds like an excuse to not have badass female characters on starring roles (damn i sounded like a freaking SJW)
Lenen is way better than touhou
Silver Surfer for the NES is better than Len en
Yeah i'm using a crappy shoot em up as comparassion, Lennin isn't even worthy being compared to the greatness of Touhou, it just obliterates it in every category
@@chargemankenia and that betrays my point how exactly? Dumb hipster who prefers a cheap rip-off over the real thing
You know, I always thought of Reimu and Yabusame having a rivalry that is similar to the likes of Mario vs Sonic.
As a Len'en fan, I disagree, touhou has better atmosphere while Len'en lacks good stages. Len'en beats Touhou in lore tho. Len'en is also winning in terms of banger boss themes.
@@xenophanesbringsthepain1229
just tried len'en 1 today and yeah yabusume is like the reimu of len'en.
Lol ripoff